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Eddie Maddock: Kurt Gehlbach, Do hundreds more vehicles in Uptown make sense for the city of Sedona?

SedonaEye.com columnist Eddie Maddock provides a forum for Sedona mayoral candidate, Kurt Gehlbach, to provide his perspective on the March 2020 City Council decision to approve the purchase of 430 Forest Road (Uptown) for over its appraised value, and encumbering more than $11 million in new debt for city taxpayers if projected tourism parking meter income fails to service the debt.

Sedona AZ – Although earth as an orb continues its normal rotation, global inhabitants have been thrown into an alien orbit which is NOT in outer space. The seriousness of the deadly coronavirus is reality in the truest form. Isn’t it somewhat stunning to become shell-shocked and forced to face the fact that mere mortals really don’t have a great deal of control?

However and in spite of the turmoil, it is an election year and survivors of the pandemic will have the privilege of casting votes in Sedona for candidates vying for Sedona Mayor and rotating seats on the Sedona City Council.

The two mayoral contenders remain Mayor Sandy Moriarty, opting for yet another term, and a new name on the slate, Kurt Gehlbach.

Because the coronavirus conflict quite likely will obstruct the opportunity for city council candidate forums prior to the primary vote in August, Mr. Gehlbach contacted me inquiring about the possibility for Sedona Eye to feature some information about him. Therefore, this resulting article has been derived solely from e-mail communication obliging the mandate for no private meetings, consultations, or even phone calls.

Mr. Gehlbach opted to focus on his own perspective relating to the city council’s recent approval at the council meeting on March 24, 2020:

  • AB 2570 Approval of a Resolution authorizing a Real Estate Purchase and Sale Agreement for the City of Sedona to purchase the property located at 430 Forest Road (APN 401-160-71) located in Coconino County, City of Sedona, Arizona, for the sum of $480,000 for use as a parking structure.

Due to recent global events creating such an upheaval and uncertain economic predictions, Kurt Gehlbach maintains this premise:

Sedona AZ uptown tourist traffic. The city plans to build parking garages for 500 additional vehicles in Uptown to encourage shopping. [Photo courtesy The Arizona Republic]

“The responsibility of Elected Officials is to the Residents of Sedona, and because of the uncertainty of serious implications with regards to the spread of the coronavirus predicted by the World Health Organization, it is the obligation of our Government to revisit with the residents with regards to any decisions made prior to the onset of Sedona’s devastating shutdowns.”

He continues: “With regards to real estate, I personally have 24 years as a licensed residential Real Estate Agent and Developer, always successful through every negotiation. Why? Experience, research, knowledge and always emotionally prepared to negotiate.

Considering all circumstances I would never move forward with the purchase of any property during an election year and certainly not when we know there’s the possibility for another financial recession.

When moving forward within favorable conditions I first request a current appraisal to be accomplished by the property owner. While waiting for the appraisal, I personally research all comparative properties in order to compare to the appraisal. When the appraisal comes in, I scrutinize the hell out of it making sure everything is accurate and up to date. When negotiations begin, I never offer appraised value, starting the negotiation below appraisal, especially when it’s a cash transaction.”

Questioning the wisdom of the city having paid $100,000 OVER appraised value at the recommendation of the city manager, Mr. Gehlbach stated:The people of Sedona have now been ripped off through pure ignorance!”

His conclusion is the city of Sedona has now set a precedent for any FUTURE land acquisitions to be overvalued, questioning the premise of “property is only worth what the Buyer is willing to pay.” Is that true when the investment was overpriced to begin with?

Regarding future Uptown parking, here’s what Kurt Gehlbach has to say:

A recent ADOT traffic study found the majority of Sedona tourist traffic backs up miles just to drive through the Sedona city limits without stopping before continuing along SR 89A to reach their northern destinations.

“$11.5 million to place 300 automobiles in the center of uptown, and that’s one of two parking structures, totaling roughly an additional 500 automobiles in Uptown Sedona. Add another $500,000 or more for the “ledge work” they will find digging down at least 2 floors or 30 feet (??)”

Kurt continues: “Not long ago our Mayor, Sandy Moriarty, was headstrong to be part of the Global Covenant of Mayors for Climate and Energy, designed to cut emissions, basically decreasing Sedona’s carbon footprint within the next three years. Does this make sense to anyone?”

Regarding Sedona residents, Kurt Gehlbach relates:

“Prior to lockdown, I spent days and many hours walking door to door throughout our city gathering 200 signatures myself while sharing in conversation.

The emotions are all over the place, and many of our residents are very angry. I’m truly, truly worried about the future of Sedona so I believe the conversation needs to be about Sedona herself and our residents, to include their mixed levels of anger toward this government. We, as a city, must now come together to create change through a government that will listen, respond, inform, create and prosper with and for the Residents of Sedona. How about grasping the opportunity for such a collaboration giving new life and hope for Sedona’s survival?”

End of input from city of Sedona mayoral candidate Kurt Gehlbach. Read, study, ask questions and by all means plan to vote in August. Life in Sedona continues and be grateful each and every day for what we have and consider by way of your own judgment what will be the best way to preserve and protect this special corner of the world.

Over and Out. Cheers. Be Safe. Stay Well.

510 Comments

  1. TGIF says:

    “Republicans believe in forgiveness for your actual sins and Democrats believe in hating you for imagined sins. That difference has emerged as the major theme in this country.” —Scott Adams

  2. steve Segner says:

    It takes courage to tell the truth and be best and not be cowed by voices like Steve Segner.
    Yes, the truth is Sedona is a tourist town always has been, so let’s plan on growth because with Phoenix 100 south we will grow, Sedona held up better than almost in town in America the las 8 months the city only need to cut spending bt $200,000 over 2019. I don’t see anyone complaining about the skyrocketing home values.

    Ray says: As for Segner you constantly step too far in your anarchist tirades.
    All business re-evaluate on how they do business the police should be no different they need new training, there were 996 fatal police shootings last year, would it be such a bad thing to cut that number by 1/2.
    48 officers died as a result of felonious acts in 2019, and 41 officers died in accidents. Just look at the numbers 48 officers out of 800,000 police officers in America 996 innocent (not convicted of any crime) were killed, police officers. I don’t this is an anarchist tirades.

  3. Judeo-Christian Haters says:

    Let’s see how many of you religious people openly step up and support the sick President and First Lady and others with prayers of support and best wishes for a speedy recovery. You Religious people are disgusting and should be stripped of rights. You’re fake. Let the re-education camps begin to eliminate you believers and restore Democrats to control of government because we don’t need religion practiced by nutcases on knees.

  4. Walter S. says:

    We might consider being grateful that USFS land is no longer up for grabs via “trades”. Therefore @Steve Segner, Sedona IS restricted on just how much it can grow. What we DON’T need is more high density development that simply attracts more traffic.

    Parking garages? A “hub” for storing transit vehicles? Get real city planners. How about revisiting the Vision Statement in the Community Plan. Oh – forgot – that plan was long ago watered down to a meaningless worthless document.

    Skyrocketing home values? But of course. And one of the main reasons? Investments for those seeking to profit from short-term vacation rentals! Many if not most of those property owners don’t even live in Arizona! One of Segner’s most favorite examples of “Sedona will continue to grow?”

    City Council, Staff, C of C, & Lodging Council continue to play second-fiddle to Karma & Mother Nature. Don’t believe it? Then where’s the badly need rain. Have you checked Oak Creek lately? Ha! What creek? Where’s the water?

  5. Lake Havasu Rocks says:

    Quit crowded hot Sedona come to Havasu

  6. June says:

    House values fall in Sedona while other places are showing better outcomes. Thanks city council.

  7. Neyland Stad says:

    @ Lake Havasu Rocks

    Sedona is Hot? Lake Havasu is Africa Hot.

  8. Neyland Stad says:

    @ June

    Where the heck to you get your facts.

    My realtor, who is a very good friend, tells me that home sales in Sedona are going through the roof. Unfortunately because of STR. Investors are buying homes at ridiculous prices. The house next to me just sold $10K over asking price.

  9. Gregg says:

    That house went 10k over because that’s what agents do to help buyers get down payments. Just educating’. Not bad for 3% interest rate buy thanks to current administration.

  10. Mike Campbell says:

    @Neyland Stad

    Don’t you just love comments from a football stadium? Neyland Stadium, home of the Tennessee Volunteers. If it were true people would use their real names.

    Sedona is a tourist trap with greedy tourist businesses and overpaid city staff.

  11. Brian says:

    @neylandatad your realtor friend is (deleted by editor) you, might be your house is wanted for listing by realtor that doesn’t have anything to sell? I knows and June knows.

    STR is made up villain when it’s homeowners that only live here part time doing what they always did. Bet you rented that way once, eh Neyland? I knows.

  12. Sandal Man says:

    U.S. Government Looks to Wenden, Arizona to Help End Reliance on China for Critical Minerals

    WASHINGTON D.C. – Today the United States Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) announced that it has awarded American Manganese Inc. (AMY) a grant to perform work on the United States Government’s manganese ore stockpile located near Wenden, Arizona, with the goal of producing electrolytic manganese metal (EMM) for the nation. AMY will conduct tests of the Wenden stockpile to confirm the viability of using the Company’s patented hydrometallurgical process to recover EMM from the stockpile. If successful, the DLA, together with AMY, will proceed to transform sub-economic manganese resources into a valuable source of EMM.

    Thank you Trump Administration.

  13. Martha McSally says:

    I want to take a couple of minutes to be honest with you. I hope you will take some time to read what I have to say.

    I’ve had my fair share of challenges in my life. I was rejected from being a pilot in the Air Force because I was a little too short. I didn’t take no for an answer. I kept fighting.

    I fought and clawed my way to not only earn my wings but to go on and become the first female in U.S. history to fly a fighter jet in combat and command a fighter jet squadron.

    After 6 tours of duty in the Middle East and Afghanistan, 325 combat hours, and 26 years in the Air Force, I was ready for my next challenge. I wanted to continue serving my country and fellow Americans, so I entered a tough race for the House of Representatives and flipped a blue district red.

    Now, I am facing my toughest political challenge yet – running for Arizona’s Senate seat against one of the best-funded Democrats in the nation.

    I turn on the TV and see vicious lies being spread about me. I look at the newspaper and see the liberal media smearing my record. But I’m doing what I was meant to do – fighting for Americans like you.

    So, when I see the violence happening in cities like Portland or the economic impact that China’s lies have had on Americans across the nation, I know no matter how tough of a fight this is – it is my duty to continue working for you.

    My whole life has been spent putting Americans first. I won’t back down from this challenge – but I need you by my side. Will you stand with me and help support my fight for our shared values?

    I am counting on you. My race will determine control of the Senate for years to come, and with just weeks until Election Day, we cannot slow down now. Can I count on you to be in this fight with me?

    Thank you for your dedicated support!

    In Service,

    Martha McSally

  14. Alex D. says:

    @Martha McSally, very impressive words and FYI you already have my vote, mailed and receipt verified as such by the county where I reside.

    To those who may not be aware, contacts to verify vote-by-mail were included with my ballot. Two phone numbers and a web site. My choice to confirm vote was by computer link whereby my name was verified as well as the ID number on my voter registration card.

    May the best man/woman win. In this case, Trump and McSally. Can hardly wait for the abusive attacks to ensue here on Sedona Eye. However, this is America, the greatest country in the world where that option still remains. Maybe one day Sedona might reclaim the title of being the most beautiful place on earth. Possibly so now that ding-dong the witch is gone?

  15. Escapee from NY Madness says:

    New York governor Andrew Cuomo has been praised for his handling of the state’s coronavirus pandemic, but a closer examination of the beginning of the US crisis tells a less flattering story — one that shows how poor decisions harmed the country – one that shows how poor decisions harmed the country. What you’re missing here is how Bill DeBlasio (who officially changed his German name to be electable) made it even worse still today. Go back to being New York City. Go to work. Open your doors. https://on.ft.com/2HiB6eS

  16. Patsy O. Davis says:

    Is anyone else out there sick and tired of having their mail boxes crammed jammed with political BS? Why, oh why, is this allowed? When there isn’t an election all we hear is conservation. Go paperless, blah, blah, blah.

    Although it’s extremely disappointing Kurt missed being elected by a handful of votes, nevertheless it spared Sedona residents this local unbearable nuisance of endless expensive cardboard crap dumped on us day after day. Our choice remains to shun those wasteful candidates by NOT voting for them!

    Patsy O. Davis = “P.O.’d”

  17. Norm, Sedona says:

    Agreeing with the amount of money wasted on junk mail, those candidates who so recklessly spend it might be better off if they considered running ONE ad indicating how much they spent on food for the food bank. Or some other local charity where it would be appreciated and NOT end up recycled or in the garbage dump.

    Even this close to the election our mail box continues to be stuffed with large unwanted ads! Enough already. Anyone voting for these desperate (apparently not financially desperate) people are equally as pathetic IMO.

    Let this election be done and over with and for heaven’s sake let the losers accept their loss with dignity and NOT begin another four years of whining like two-year old babies as we’ve witnessed since the presidential election four years ago!

    Thank you.

  18. Eddie S. Maddock says:

    Heads up. Red alert.

    Does anyone out there have information about an online City of Sedona survey?

    Having been an appreciative recipient of many mailed city surveys in the past it’s curious to learn of perhaps a new city policy? That being a selective survey to only those who have registered or something(?) in order to participate.

    Just asking. It might be interesting reading to find out what questions “they” are asking?

  19. Grace K says:

    Longest survey ever.

    The City of Sedona 2020 OPT- IN Community Survey
    https://polco.us/n/res/vote/sedona-az/the-city-of-sedona-2020-2

    How do you like the questions?

  20. Keith says:

    Those surveys are downloaded from other places or sites designed to promote questions that reach certain goals. Whose survey is this? Why is it being asked? What’s the goal for the responses? Nobody asks predesigned questions of taxpayers without a path to use those answers and belief systems to control outcomes. That’s why intelligent people don’t answer polls truthfully. Know thine enemy and answer accordingly.

  21. Seve Segner says:

    Keith says:That’s why intelligent people don’t answer polls truthfully.
    The survey is guide to what the public is thinking and it’s need, how dumb the city should just read Sedona Eye or ask Keth,

  22. Wanda in Foothills South says:

    The last time I didn’t receive a survey I called to inquire and was told that they send them to a percentage of the residents. This time I received the link.

  23. Marv, Sedona says:

    Same old same old. Devious and sneaky methods are boring news and common to occur during a crisis when most people are preoccupied with other concerns. At the moment COVID-19 – real or unreal – but not to be dismissed.

    To have the audacity and try to shove this scam through in order to increase sales tax is (IMO) deplorable. Isn’t that what Hellary called her opponents when she lost her attempt to become our president?

    City Council/Staff you must be real proud of your efforts to fool us, the dumb people who live here and call Sedona our home. Don’t you get it? Many of us already refuse to pay your overinflated sales tax and shop elsewhere for taxable items. Of course you have us by the ying yang(s) when it come to utility bills and we have no choice. Live with your deceit. Nothing lasts forever.

    Take your stupid survey and stuff it where the sun don’t shine is my advice. Bye.

  24. DallasJRAndre says:

    @seve ya be smokin or tokin mano a mano

  25. Richard, Camp Verde says:

    Where’s the questions about excessive traffic and overflowing trash not in cans but dumped on trails and highways and Oak Creek all the way through the Verde? Canyons and slide rock are ruined by pro China chambers. Time they were sued. The chamber has big money here because of gifts and that means regional and nationally and internationally. Send a message we don’t want them in town unless they disassociate with formal chamber of commerce. We do fine with a few hard workers. No need to answer bogus surveys. Ridiculous waste of money by government to try and show they’re doing something. They’re not. Clean the Verde by clearing out the chambers and false flag developers. Vote no on any new taxes because they throw it away every single time. Time to reorganize priorities during this pandemic.

  26. Bob, VOC says:

    Always been a voting Democrat, but not this time. I’m voting for stability and peace and, yes, the last straw after choosing Harris the poorly vetted and unwelcome campaign loser (she placed last among 27 Democrat challengers and pulled out before her home state even voted where she is more unpopular than in the other 49), bought and paid for by international money. The reason Harris is on the ticket? Those international money backers. Those are the backers I don’t want to control my Democrats or my Democratic party. We cannot be supporting socialism and we cannot put socialists in positions of power to overthrow our elected officials. I’m sickened by those around me who are voting for Joe Biden. I’m sickened by the white upper class here who want communists taking away their standard of living. I don’t and I won’t give any Democrat this time around my vote, not even the AZ Corporation Commission. We must send a message to the DNC to find its center, its core values. It’s time to stand up and say no to the far left that don’t represent us. Stop acting like the herd who ushered in Hitler and then said we didn’t know. YOU KNEW AND YOU KNOW NOW. You didn’t think it was about you, just your neighbor. IT’S ABOUT YOU AND YOUR NEIGHBORS.

    That’s what you are doing with this open door to Biden Harris and their group of future cabinet members. I don’t want 54 Senators stacked Democrat, I don’t want a Supreme Court stacked with socialists, I don’t want a nation that joins China and Russia as its Triad member in world globalism.

    I love my freedoms. I love my liberty. I love being able to say screw you to my government when it performs poorly. I love being able to vote without knowing the outcome. I will never be your friend if you vote Democrat this time around. I will never patronize your businesses or your restaurants. I’m standing up to the herd before they come for me and my family this time.

  27. TRUMP WINS BY LANDSLIDE !!!! says:

    Trump wins 2020 Presidency by a landslide !

    Aided by disgruntled Democratic voters who changed sides, Trump wins by an overwhelming majority.

    Many ex Democrats were heard saying they were tired of lies and betrayals by their own party.

  28. Irvine Guy says:

    @BobVOC this student of history agrees

  29. Don says:

    Sedona used to be worth surveys back in the days when the council did what we asked and what we expected them to maintain without asking and now we are left with no honor among thieves.

  30. Ken Blackwell says:

    The Electoral College Produces Legitimate and Fair Outcomes

    The system is the gold standard and the model of a free society.

    Without question, the upcoming presidential election is one of the most heated and divisive in recent memory. Current tensions have brought not only disagreements, bickering, and violence but also misplaced distrust in the functionality of the U.S. presidential election system itself.

    Both Democrats and Republicans fear that fraud and dishonesty can tip the scales against them. These practices often impact local races; however, President Trump’s bipartisan Election Integrity Commission, which I served on from 2017-2018, concluded that a tyranny of the majority or extant voter fraud has yet to manage to swing a presidential election. By and large, we have bipartisan vigilance and the Electoral College system to thank for the viability of our Constitutional Republic.

    Unlike local races, presidential elections and the Electoral College are decentralized. They’re comprised of 51 smaller elections adjoined into one, with local, state, and federal checks on accountability.

    That doesn’t mean fraud doesn’t ever occur. It’s real, it happens in all 50 states, and it’s something we must take seriously — especially when considering that, in 2016, a margin of 40,000 or less determined the outcome of three key swing states. Lawmakers need to take extra steps to crack down on fraud, particularly in problem states like California and Pennsylvania. But in any potential periods of uncertainty — particularly in this absentee ballot-heavy election — we should show patience and confidence that the current system will work. Rather than labeling the Electoral College as bad, we should devote our energy to quickly rooting out the fraud while holding our election officials and representatives to a high standard of transparency.

    For example, Ohio has a whole host of election administration laws that its election officials must follow. As the former secretary of state from 1999 to 2007, I know firsthand that the process for adhering to them is not for the faint of heart.

    Both sides predict which states may have close races months in advance and swarm those states with lawyers and poll watchers. We saw this in Ohio in 2004. Although the margin between the two sides came down to roughly 2%, the transparency precautions taken by both political parties made Ohio perhaps the most difficult state to commit fraud in overall.

    Some accept this premise but believe this election could be different given the extent of unrequested mail and absentee voting. These developments are stressing chain of custody and verification safeguards.

    It’s true: Problems and errors have indeed happened. But the speed with which local officials have addressed these issues should give us confidence, not doubt. For example, in Franklin County, Ohio, nearly 50,000 prospective absentee ballots went to the wrong voters. The bipartisan Board of Election saw the error early on and appears to have taken every step needed to rectify it in time. Many other comparable examples around the country have received equally quick rectification from those on the ground.

    That said, no one is perfect, and on November 3, the stakes couldn’t be higher. We must ensure that every valid vote is counted and that only valid votes are counted. All instances of fraud should receive severe and swift addressing. Over the long term, we should also embrace proposals to improve upon our local election processes. Let’s have these conversations rather than questioning the legitimacy of the Electoral College and the outcomes it produces.

    The American electoral system has stood the test of time. It’s withstood civil wars, world wars, and a decade-long depression, with few questioning its legitimacy.

    Let’s be careful with our words in the coming days as we watch the Electoral College allow America to conduct another successful national election that is the envy of the world. The system is the gold standard and the model of a free society.

  31. Bert Prelutsky says:

    Dan Parker posed this puzzler: “If my not wearing a mask can infect those who are wearing a mask, what good is their mask doing them and what good does it do me? And if social distancing works, why wear masks? Or if masks work, why the social distancing?”

    I told him I was relieved to discover that I wasn’t the only person who was lying awake at night asking myself these seemingly obvious questions. It didn’t help knowing that somewhere Anthony Fauci was sleeping like a baby.

  32. Grace K says:

    Of course they wouldn’t bring up traffic.

    Didn’t you hear they gave themselves an award.

  33. Vivian Sedona says:

    Free and easy answer Mr. Prelutsky, you need to stay inside and keep others safe. We need lockdowns because of people like you questioning government. You don’t get to be free when others aren’t and should face arrest if out without masks. Vote Biden for security because he will order that people like you be removed from public spaces.

  34. Sunset in Sedona says:

    Democrats moved from Plantation ownership to Gulag re-education camps. Get off the train America!

  35. Aaron says:

    For too long, budget shortfalls let critical maintenance projects in our national parks fall to the wayside. Sedona was savaged under Obama Biden! Do you know who saved Sedona with funding, saved us from uranium mining, closed the coal plant? Probably not because Democrats here won’t let you know. President @realDonaldTrump signed the Great American Outdoors Act to ensure that our natural wonders are preserved for generations to come. So what’s in your wallet, Sedona?! Vote it now.

    Why do you always settle for less, Sedona????

  36. Magda says:

    Robo calls are discouraging voting because of long lines. WRONG. Not true. FBI will investigate. Report it. If you get one be sure you go vote instead.

  37. Attention Trump Voters says:

    There are reports of voter suppression and if you’re a Republican or Nonpartisan voter and haven’t voted, get up and go now. Stand in line. It’s time to stand and vote and not be suppressed by the same media and politicians that fed you garbage and lies. The economy is the best ever. Black lives matter with jobs. Hispanic and Latino lives have never been as good. Our police officers need you to vote Republican to keep us safe and secure and them safe and secure. Phone a friend for a ride and call a friend and offer a ride. Make sure your friends and family vote. Stand up now for America. Take a folding seat and bottle of water and go vote. Go do it.

  38. Women Unite says:

    Remember Martha McSally needs your vote!

  39. Ted says:

    Arizona better not go blue and ruin us like California. Disgusting thought that what makes us superior in Arizona and why people want to come here becomes what those people left behind and it ruins us in the process. Shame on AZ for not remembering why we are Southwesterners first and political assholes last.

  40. Sandra says:

    VOTE

  41. Sedona Eye says:

    Arizona goes for Biden and Kelly is elected to the Senate.

  42. Sedona Jim says:

    Why are we still not calling President Donald Trump the winner? The Democrats lost and failed to have a “blow out” as promised.

    There was no Democrat landslide. There was no repudiation of “Trump” as screamed and cloth rendered. The taking many of us for granted backfired, Democrats. The polls were once again propaganda. The Media failed us with their left wing partisanship.

    Go home Joe and take a nap. And take your communist with you. You and the Democrats failed us as a nation with your divisiveness and lies. Don’t come back until you figure it out for America’s sake.

  43. Franklin Square says:

    You declared Arizona with 18% of the vote counted Sedona Eye! The biggest vote getters weren’t even counted yet in the state and they went Republican! Democrats acted like the thieves they have to be to win with lousy unethical candidates. There was no blue wave. If pollsters had asked the people we would have told them. All the money spent to buy the Democrat race and we get a draw? Kelly owes his win to dark money and the east coast. Democrats would have been blown out of the ballpark without buying his votes for the Senate which the Democrats didn’t take. Arizona you lost the high ground.

  44. Huck says:

    Bill and Hillary Clinton’s buddy Donna Shalala loses her seat in Florida and Cuban American Republican Salazar wins. Shalala had been a media and poll shoo-in favorite, but it was Salazar who won big with her nearly 4% margin and a pro America, anti socialism message.

  45. Foothills South says:

    No winner yet?! Balls?! Is it true they found Trump ballots tossed away in Arizona and ran out of ink somewhere at a Trump location?! Who runs out of ink except by design?! They could’ve driven to a Walmart and got some for (deleted by editor).

  46. Yes!!!!!!!!! says:

    Yea man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    AZ has two democratic senators!!!!!!
    Suck it up crybaby’s I’ll leave the space below for your BS Conspacy theory’s comments LOL

  47. Michele says:

    @steve

    Democrats didn’t like their candidate choice, exit polls are finally revealing. Several California exit polls showed Democrats voted other parties. Yeah @steve the Republicans still gained more seats in House and kept Senate control. What you clapping for man? You got yourself a bought and paid for boy from Jersey. That’s right @steve you elected yourself. Good luck with that.

  48. Leaflet Gatherer says:

    Saw YouTubes of Joe Biden at several campaign carbyes with handfuls of people or cars. Dem campaign organizer in Carolinas said they took cardboard people with background sounds like NFL because press wouldn’t video group to help Joe out and could be misinformation but if NFL pulls it off in massive stadiums guess a car no show shouldnt be a big deal. People pick up your trash and remove your ugly signs now. Can’t we people throw them away if left standing past Election Day? What’s the rules Sedona?

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