SedonaEye.com Columnist Eddie S. Maddock opines on the struggle to maintain Sedona Arizona’s red rock splendor and quality of life in the face of commercialism, tourism, favoritism, and the resulting eco-unfriendly biohazards.
Sedona AZ (October 21, 2017) – With a flurry of hard core issues presently on the drawing board such as the Fire District Bond, amendments to the Sedona Community Plan which will increase land development density, and the increase of Sedona City sales tax, maybe it has or has not been an oversight to more prominently address the current “Citizen’s Survey” which was mailed to a select number of Sedona City residents.
Not having personally received the survey, several outside contacts related concerns with some of the questions, which resulted in obtaining a copy of the survey via online research and which, with approval of the Editor of SedonaEye.com, is shown in a text format for informational purposes only so as NOT to be confused as an official document to be completed and mailed back to the source contracted for the research.
The results of this “citizen’s survey” may or may not have a tremendous impact on the direction of Sedona’s future. However, considerable unrest exists relating to ongoing troubling changes in the quality of life for those of us who are permanent residents and who moved here to enjoy life with a small town atmosphere.
Although difficult, this informational offering is submitted without comment or editorializing – which will not prevent me from making future comments if it does, in fact, appear on SedonaEye.
SedonaEye? Who dat?
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The City of Sedona 2017 Citizen Survey
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Please complete this questionnaire if you are the adult (age 18 or older) in the household who most recently had a birthday. The adult’s year of birth does not matter. Please select the response that most closely represents your opinion for each question. Your responses are anonymous and will be reported in group form only.
Please rate each of the following aspects of quality of life in Sedona:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Sedona as a place to live
Your neighborhood as a place to live
Sedona as a place to raise children
Sedona as a place to work
Sedona as a place to visit
Sedona as a place to retire
The overall quality of life in Sedona
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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Overall feeling of safety in Sedona
Overall ease of getting to the places you usually have to visit
Quality of overall natural environment in Sedona
Overall “built environment” of Sedona (including overall design, buildings, parks and transportation systems)
Health and wellness opportunities in Sedona
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Overall opportunities for education and enrichment
Overall economic health of Sedona
Sense of community
Overall image or reputation of Sedona
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Please indicate how likely or unlikely you are to do each of the following:
Very likely Somewhat likely Somewhat unlikely Very unlikely Don’t know
Recommend living in Sedona to someone who asks
Remain in Sedona for the next five years
Please rate how safe or unsafe you feel:
Very safe Somewhat safe Neither safe nor unsafe Somewhat unsafe Very unsafe Don’t know
In your neighborhood during the day
In Sedona’s downtown/commercial area during the day
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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Traffic flow on major streets
Ease of public parking
Ease of travel by car in Sedona
Ease of travel by public transportation in Sedona
Ease of travel by bicycle in Sedona
Ease of walking in Sedona
Availability of paths and walking trails
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Air quality
Cleanliness of Sedona
Overall appearance of Sedona
Public places where people want to spend time
Variety of housing options
Availability of affordable quality housing
Fitness opportunities (including exercise classes and paths or trails, etc.)
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Recreational opportunities
Availability of affordable quality food
Availability of affordable quality health care
Availability of preventive health services
Availability of affordable quality mental health care
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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Availability of affordable quality child care/preschool
K-12 education
Adult educational opportunities
Opportunities to attend cultural/arts/music activities
Opportunities to participate in religious or spiritual events and activities
Employment opportunities
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Shopping opportunities
Cost of living in Sedona
Overall quality of business and service establishments in Sedona
Vibrant downtown/commercial area
Overall quality of new development in Sedona
Opportunities to participate in social events and activities
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Opportunities to volunteer
Opportunities to participate in community matters
Openness and acceptance of the community toward people of diverse backgrounds
Neighborliness of residents in Sedona
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Please indicate whether or not you have done each of the following in the last 12 months.
No Yes
Made efforts to conserve water
Made efforts to make your home more energy efficient
Observed a code violation or other hazard in Sedona (weeds, abandoned buildings, etc.)
Household member was a victim of a crime in Sedona
Reported a crime to the police in Sedona
No Yes
Stocked supplies in preparation for an emergency
Campaigned or advocated for an issue, cause or candidate
Contacted the City of Sedona (in-person, phone, email or web) for help or information
Contacted Sedona elected officials (in-person, phone, email or web) to express your opinion
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In the last 12 months, about how many times, if at all, have you or other household members done each of the following in Sedona?
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Visited a neighborhood park or City park
Used Sedona public libraries or their services
Participated in religious or spiritual activities in Sedona
Attended a City-sponsored event
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Used bus, rail, subway or other public transportation instead of driving
Carpooled with other adults or children instead of driving alone
Walked or biked instead of driving
Volunteered your time to some group/activity in Sedona
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Participated in a club
Talked to or visited with your immediate neighbors
Done a favor for a neighbor
Used the Sedona Hub
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Thinking about local public meetings (of local elected officials like City Council or County Commissioners, advisory boards, town halls, HOA, neighborhood watch, etc.), in the last 12 months, about how many times, if at all, have you or other household members attended or watched a local public meeting?
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Attended a local public meeting
Watched (online or on television) a local public meeting
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Please rate the quality of each of the following services in Sedona:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Police/Sheriff services
Fire services
Ambulance or emergency medical services
Crime prevention
Fire prevention and education
Traffic enforcement
Street repair
Street cleaning
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Street lighting
Snow removal
Sidewalk maintenance
Traffic signal timing
Bus or transit services
Garbage collection
Recycling
Yard waste pick-up
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Storm drainage
Drinking water
Sewer services
Power (electric and/or gas) utility
Utility billing
City parks
Recreation programs or classes
Recreation facilities
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Land use, planning and zoning
Code enforcement (weeds, abandoned buildings, etc.)
Animal control
Economic development
Health services
Public library services
Public information services
Emergency preparedness (services that prepare the community for natural disasters or other emergency situations)
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Preservation of natural areas such as open space, farmlands and greenbelts
Sedona open space
City-sponsored special events
Overall customer service by Sedona employees (police, receptionists, planners, etc.)
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Overall, how would you rate the quality of the services provided by each of the following?
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
The City of Sedona
The Federal Government
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Please rate the following categories of Sedona government performance:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
The value of services for the taxes paid to Sedona
The overall direction that Sedona is taking
The job Sedona government does at welcoming citizen involvement
Overall confidence in Sedona government
Generally acting in the best interest of the community
Being honest
Treating all residents fairly
Please rate how important, if at all, you think it is for the Sedona community to focus on each of the following in the coming two years:
Essential Very important Somewhat important Not at all important
Overall feeling of safety in Sedona
Overall ease of getting to the places you usually have to visit
Quality of overall natural environment in Sedona
Overall “built environment” of Sedona (including overall design, buildings, parks and transportation systems)
Health and wellness opportunities in Sedona
Overall opportunities for education and enrichment
Overall economic health of Sedona
Sense of community
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Cities are faced with difficult choices with limited budgets. While the City is currently working on solutions to reduce traffic, please select up to two (2) additional priorities you would want the City to invest in over the next few years:
Additional cultural facilities (museums, theatres, etc.) Additional parks and facilities (playgrounds, sports facilities, etc.)
An Oak Creek park or walk Other
Increase the walkability and bikeability of Sedona None of these
Ensure housing for those who work in Sedona
Please select up to three (3) service areas for the City to contribute additional funding in order to expand existing services over the next few years:
Recycling services Arts and culture programs
Library services Social services (senior center, food banks, etc.)
Animal services Other (please specify)
Business development services None, I’m pleased with levels of service in listed areas
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Please indicate how likely or unlikely you are to use each of the following sources to learn about City issues, activities, events and services:
Very likely Somewhat likely Somewhat unlikely Very unlikely Don’t know
City website (www.sedonaaz.gov) and eNotify emails
Local newspapers (Red Rock News) and websites (www.Sedona.biz)
Local radio stations (100.1, NPR on 103.3 or 88.7, etc.)
Channel 4, the local government TV channel
City Council meetings and other public meetings
Talking with City officials and staff members
City communications via social media
Word-of-mouth
To what extent do you agree or disagree that each of the following would increase your use of a bicycle or walking as a means of alternative transportation:
I would ride a bicycle or walk more often if…
Strongly agree Somewhat agree Somewhat disagree Strongly disagree Don’t know
There were more off-street bike, sidewalks or multi-use paths/trails
I felt safer from traffic while riding a bicycle/walking
I had better health or physical ability to do so
I do not want to use a bicycle or walk as a means of transportation
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To what extent do you support or oppose the City investing in creating sustainability policies and programs in the following areas:
Strongly support Somewhat support Somewhat oppose Strongly oppose Don’t know
Increasing use of alternative energy sources
Encouraging water conservation
Fostering National Forest stewardship (trails, access, etc.).
Increasing recycling services
Developing plans to meet the goal of zero waste in Sedona
Requiring higher green building and development standards
To what extent would you support or oppose the City of Sedona encouraging growth in the following types of businesses/industries?
Strongly support Somewhat support Somewhat oppose Strongly oppose Don’t know
Technology (i.e., life science, R&D)
Outdoor recreation
Tourism (i.e., hotels, restaurants)
Healthcare (i.e., pharmaceutical, hospital, medical offices)
Arts and Entertainment (i.e., graphic design, interior design)
Light warehousing and distribution (i.e., truck operators, stock clerks)
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Our last questions are about you and your household. Again, all of your responses to this survey are completely anonymous and will be reported in group form only.
How often, if at all, do you do each of the following, considering all of the times you could?
Never Rarely Sometimes Usually Always
Recycle at home
Purchase goods or services from a business located in Sedona
Eat at least 5 portions of fruits and vegetables a day
Participate in moderate or vigorous physical activity
Read or watch local news (via television, paper, computer, etc.)
Vote in local elections
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Would you say that in general your health is:
Excellent
Very good
Good
Fair
Poor
What impact, if any, do you think the economy will have on your family income in the next 6 months? Do you think the impact will be:
Very positive
Somewhat positive
Neutral
Somewhat negative
Very negative
What is your employment status?
Working full time for pay
Working part time for pay
Unemployed, looking for paid work
Unemployed, not looking for paid work
Fully retired
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Do you work inside the boundaries of Sedona?
Yes, outside the home
Yes, from home
No
How many years have you lived in Sedona?
Less than 2 years
2-5 years
6-10 years
11-20 years
More than 20 years
Which best describes the building you live in?
One family house detached from any other houses
Building with two or more homes (duplex, townhome, apartment or condominium)
Mobile home
Other
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Is this house, apartment or mobile home…
Rented
Owned
About how much is your monthly housing cost for the place you live (including rent, mortgage payment, property tax, property insurance and homeowners’ association (HOA) fees)?
Less than $300 per month $1,000 to $1,499 per month
$300 to $599 per month $1,500 to $2,499 per month
$600 to $999 per month $2,500 or more per month
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Do any children 17 or under live in your household?
No
Yes
Are you or any other members of your household aged 65 or older?
No
Yes
How much do you anticipate your household’s total income before taxes will be for the current year? (Please include in your total income money from all sources for all persons living in your household.)
Less than $25,000
$25,000 to $49,999
$50,000 to $99,999
$100,000 to $149,999
$150,000 or more
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Please respond to both questions:
Are you Spanish, Hispanic or Latino?
No, not Spanish, Hispanic or Latino
Yes, I consider myself to be Spanish, Hispanic or Latino
What is your race? (Mark one or more races to indicate what race you consider yourself to be.)
American Indian or Alaskan Native
Asian, Asian Indian or Pacific Islander
Black or African American
White
Other
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In which category is your age?
18-24 years 55-64 years
25-34 years 65-74 years
35-44 years 75 years or older
45-54 years
What is your sex?
Female
Male
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Do you consider a cell phone or land line your primary telephone number?
Cell
Land line
Both
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Hackers come in two sorts––the ones that like to disrupt things for creating a better world and the ones that like to mess with things to create personal harm. It’s the latter hacker that you need to guard against (the first type just requires you to keep an open mind). If you’re worried that your city may have been hacked, take your gut-felt concerns seriously and act quickly. Hackers can get into city in surprising ways but what you need to understand is how this might manifest itself to you when looking at your town. Here are some possible indicators that your city might have been hacked, along with suggestions for quick action.
Think about what segner says, posts and does. Is this an upscale citizens with the city enrichment in mind? The private business club is getting 3 million a year for their private club enrichment!
Think about the chamber, why should a private-regional-membership organization aka chamber get YOUR Bed tax FOR their personal USE? NO CITY GIFTS any group their BED_TAXES!!!!
Bed taxes are suppose to be used for the jurisdiction that collect them. NOT the region!!!!
Stand up VOTE!
Not so fast Mr Tonsich
You have bellowed many things in this thread but you have never answered the question from Steve Segner of
“you never got back to us with how you would run the Sedona under “NO” ON HOME RULE with $12,000,000 taken out of our budget”.
and if you did by chance answer the question how about humoring me and posting it once again.
You are all moron bots.
In just the last 4 years, the city of Sedona has gifted the Sedona Chamber of Commerce $7,362,708.
Obviously Segner would like that to continue.
Most cities give their local chamber NOTHING.
WE can change things. Vote in a new city council. Vote NO on home rule. I need more like minded people to run for city council. I need a majority of city council to change this insanity.
For those takers that request me to “humor them”. I have no obligation to respond to trolls and idiots that are too lazy to read all the facts posted.
It would be nearly impossible to waste more money, give more no bid contracts, spend more funds wrongly for the “greater Sedona area”, than our current “leadership”.
You have my word I will put residents first. It’s easy to believe me as I am a resident, with no tourist business connections. I can’t do it without your help and a like minded city council.
Sedona hasn’t been hacked but “sedona Eye” certainly has been.
Hacked by 3-4 negative small minded tea party people who HATE all thing sedona
Sedona is beautiful and a wonderful place to live…
Jump back crybaby’s…. negative thinkers like yourselves find PROBLEMS in every SOLUTION….
Get a life
Prove it Tony
Talk is cheap (deleted by editor) Your not winning anything (deleted by editor)
Tony
I’m going to say this as nicely as I can to pass the SE Editors, I really hope that there are no other “like minded” people in our city.
@@TontT Losers and takers don’t know how many residents are discusted by the crooked politics. You are obviously profiting by what goes on here. Thamk God there is an afterlife. Vermin.
I hate incorporation. Vote for Tony T. Vote NO on Home Rule!
Based on the number of attacks on Tony Tonsich it appears whatever he’s doing is infuriating certain people. Hmmm . . . maybe those who are profiting from the current tax and spend trend?
Hey, folks, it’s months away from the primary election in August. And if there is a run-off it won’t be until November. How about waiting to see whether or not there will even be other candidates besides those incumbents who have declared their intention to run, including Mayor Sandy, and the newcomer Tony Tonsich?
Are you all so frightened you might lose control of the reins you have nothing better to do for the next 5 to 8 months?
The biggest change clearly could result from sealing the cookie jar by defeating Home Rule. That, for sure, would clearly identify the men from the boys, including City Manager when he could no longer create new city departments. Latest: Director of Economic Stability (or some such thing) in addition to hiring an Asst. to the Director of Parks & Rec (aka Wreck) for more parks that a former citizen survey clearly said weren’t wanted.
Voting NO on Home Rule clearly is the issue of the day. Do not believe in the ensuing Scare Tactics that have already begun. They tried that with the Fire District and voters were smart enough to see through the smoke screen.
“Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.”
I don’t think Tony T would care about an opinion from someone too cowardly to sign their name. Tony T, we need more like you !
Sedona is a great place to live, work and play. That’s why we all moved here and continue to stay here. Why blame tourists, admit it, most of us started out as tourists too. We are just lucky enough to call this beautiful city home.
I don’t understand all the negativity. I am not complaining about the traffic, yes it may cause me to get to my destination 5 minutes later than usual. I am not complaining about our taxes, they are alot less here than NY where I come from. I am not complaining about the beauty, no where beats our red majetic rocks. I am not complaining about property values, my property has never been valued higher. I am not.complaining about our taxes, they are typical to comprable communities. I am not complaining about our sewer fees, they are reasonable and beat my failing septic tank. I am not complaining about my neighbors, they are great! I am not complaining about our businesses, they are world class. I am not cmplaining about our fire and police departments, they are the finest in country. I am not complaining about our leaders and councilors. They are hard working dedicated citizens who care about us, our city and protecting our environmental treasure. I have nothing to complain about, we are blessed. Thank you to all who continue to maintain our most fabulous welcoming, Sedona!
Really!? You are going to put residents first by cutting our services, ELIMINATING parks and recreation and police services? stopping traffic solution programs. Putting the cost of sewer expenses directly on us, because you won’t have any money to run the treatment facility. Cause our police services to go back to the way it was almost 30 years ago when we relied on the county? How will you run the city and provide the services we demand when you purposely limit the budget to a point where little, very little can be done but a few things mandated by law? Really you are going to put the residents first. Ha! Or do you mean residents first to literally foot the bill that you don’t want to pay, hmm. It’s not your money, just sayin,
Right on brother …
Shhhhhhh (deleted by editor)
Signed
Richard Saunders
Oh JJ
Thank you so so much for your concern regarding incorporated Sedona.
Question for you
You live outside city limits near Red Rock crossing(remember your prior posts concerning “leave us alone”?
What you you care about Incorporated Sedona.
Mind your own business
Us City residents got this.
Wow, Mike W, OMG, @MIke W, Richard Saunders all written as soon as you could think them up. It did take you a while, but speed is not a normal characteristic of a city employee. Not very convincing, try harder. What will you do when you have to find a real job? You know, it’s hard to find a job once you are unemployed. You should start looking now. Just sayin.
Based on the number of attacks on Tony Tonsich it appears whatever he’s doing is infuriating certain people.
no one is attacking Tony, he is running for office and he has stated NO ON HOME RULE, we are just asking him to tell us in detail how he will run Sedona with $12,000,000 out of the budget…. he has all ready stated community development can be run by 3 people (his neighbor said so) ok what about parks , police city hall
just show us how we will be better off spending less money… in detail. thanks
@Observation. I believe that new Director being discussed will oversee a department relating to Sustainability (versus Stability – not that it wouldn’t be a good idea for some of the mentally impaired who have lost concept of maintaining a small town atmosphere). Councilor JT can’t wait for that one = sustainability. His sites are set on The Dells outside City Limits. Wait until he finds he must deal with the Red Rock-Dry Creek unified folks. Might get interesting.
Quote from Goldwater
“Cities should stop wasting taxpayer resources trying to skirt the rules and start respecting their citizens’ rights.”
https://goldwaterinstitute.org/article/unwelcome-to-sedona/
I agree with “Cities should stop wasting taxpayer resources trying to skirt the rules and start respecting their citizens’ rights.”
VOTE NO on homerule. Elect officials that will respect your RIGHTS!!!
I love $edona. I really love the city staff and city council. I get as much money as I want to enhance my life. Anyone that disagrees I call names. This is how we do it in $edona. We are in control get over it. We are having a grand time playing on taxpayers money without any checks or balances.
Keep it rolling you pay my bills. I have an unlimited budget ans can’r spend it fast enough. My nest-eggs are growing fast. Easy I just love $edona.
In the 2015 Chamber tax returns I only made 99,578,00 plus benefits plus my paid travel. Which all all part of my job. If you look at the tax returns for 2015 the regional members contributed 17% of our income in dues. I just love $edona. 17%!!! Cool
We are $edona. I want to thank all my supporters I love $edona!
To those of you who insinuate you have all the answers and with your feeble attempts to appear pious, your pompous bullying towards Tony Tonsich and others brave enough to use their own names amounts to nothing more than perfidious attacks. Little wonder some prefer to shield identities and those people exist on both sides of this argument.
Blatant accusations such as scare tactics and misquotes like doing away with the Sedona Police Department are far more despicable than anything Mr. Tonsich has presented and in many cases downright deceitful.
Keep in mind that frequently the bullied underdog ultimately stands to gain sympathetic support, although it seems sympathy is the last thing Tonsich is seeking, an opinion based on his pleas to the public that changes can’t be made without cooperation and help from others.
Additional points to think about? This ongoing qualify of life feud (wasn’t that the original topic?) might serve as a heads up to other unincorporated areas thinking of becoming a legitimate municipality. Read some of the comments!!!! Keep in mind many Sedona voters living here during the originally failed vote to incorporate were completely misled. We’ve got the opposite from what was promised. It appears it isn’t about to change.
Twisted interpretations and desperate scare tactics are already in place — result of fears incorporated City of Sedona might be forced to operate within its means and adhere to an authentic balanced budget — which results with a NO vote on Home Rule.
No Chicken Littles the sky will not fall!! Try it you might like it. Your wallets will. VOTE NO on Home Rule. Tell the city NO THEY CAN’T KEEP SELLING OUR RED ROCKS.
You mean peel that use thier REAL name line you silent observer!!?
Funny
To Silent Observer
Very interesting comment but you lost me when you said “and others brave enough to use their own names amounts to nothing more than perfidious attacks. Little wonder some prefer to shield identities and those people exist on both sides of this argument”
Did you forget that you failed to use YOUR OWN NAME?????
Then why didn’t The Goldwater Institute step up to bat at SB 1487 and take on endless questionable breaches supposedly to be addressed under that legislative bill? Are they (Goldwater Institute) same as our State Representatives, more engrossed with Sedona City Attorney who during city council meetings seems to relate to more time spent in Phoenix than Sedona??
And where is your OWN real name?! You totally bought into the really quite brilliant message sent by the original Silent Observer. Great Job, Sucker. No need to use your own name. Your lack of writing skills speaks volumes.
@msthomas isn’t that @silent’s point !? Both sides now point!? You people here we love it ! Exciting & wicked fine convo!
And thank you @Mrs. Roger Thomas for taking my bait. At least everyone else like @Cheryl Ernest clearly understood my message. Are we supposed to actually believe you as Mrs. Roger Thomas are using your own TRUE identity?
C’mon. Dumb is dumb but dumber is just that. Dumber.
Erroneously as I started reading your grievance it was anticipated you were seeking a definition of the word “perfidious.” Perhaps your endeavor would have been better served if you Googled the meaning to better expose your misconceived delusions. In my opinion that research might have reaped more logical rewards and possibly served to add a smidgen of credibility to your inane comment.
However all things considered you represent another stellar reason to vote “NO” on Home Rule. SE readers – Are you paying attention?
Can’t stop laughing – Sorry – But not really. You exemplified the classic example to which I was referring. Thank you more than you know.
@Mrs Roger Thomas-Karen. I do live in Sedona-Wrong JJ
Thank you for sharing Jess W…
I hope you are enjoying your new life(same hate different town) in prescott valley .
Btw. Your rants are quite tiresome… let go of that suspected injustice(totally within reason) you think was done you many many years ago…
Breathe deep and repeat ……let it go. Let it go
I am so loving my high power, paying job with tons of tax-free benefits in $edona. I get so much free stuff. From vacations, food, and gifts from my members, they loved me in $edona. $edona Chamber is a private entity we don’t have to follow government rules. We have the best of both worlds. It is $edona.
I won’t ever leave the beautiful wonderful cash cow $edona. There is so much for me and my friends in $edona. Everyone at city hall loves me and they pay me quite nicely to get my friends and business partners to attend city council meetings.
We love $edona @Jess W. the city $edona is playing for affordable housing, allowing more hotels, and giving us $edona Chamber 55% of all city bed taxes. So beautiful $edona, we get bed tax and we are not a government. Cool!
We all becoming multimillionaires here in beautiful $edona. Love it!
To the person who so rudely identified us as not being real people in addition to explicitly telling us we are not welcome in Sedona, isn’t that counter-productive to the apparently millions of dollars being spent to promote Sedona?
By treating even one tourist rudely, what kind of message is really being sent? In case you aren’t aware word-of-mouth advertising has been proven time and time again as being the most effective.
We thank you very much for proving our point and are very very grateful we didn’t spend money in such a very rude and actually quite trashy place – literally! We are continuing to enjoy our stay and spend our money in Phoenix and surrounding areas where we are welcome.
Reflecting years ago as an office manager for large rental complexes (Sacramento Manor, Phoenix Manor, and Walnut Creek Manor) the San Francisco developer, John Boswell, attempted to keep accurate tabs on the effectiveness of his advertising. One method was to have the rental office manager ask all visitors how they learned of the project(s). Overwhelmingly the results were because “someone told them about it.”
Refusing to believe what he was hearing, at a large professionally publicized event at the Walnut Creek CA complex Mr. Boswell personally placed himself at the entrance intersection and did his own survey! And guess what? The responses justified the rental manager’s report.
It’s curious the prevailing opinions of Sedona decision makers avoid even the possibility of how important word of mouth advertising is. And also how it can convey the negative and not just the positive. Therefore, it dazzles me how even one person making negative comments about people claiming to be visitors isn’t really a very good idea. Unless, of course, the comment is actually coming from a selfish resident who wishes to close the door to Sedona? Doubt that.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimberlywhitler/2014/07/17/why-word-of-mouth-marketing-is-the-most-important-social-media/#446ebe6354a8
“If consumers value word of mouth and marketers believe it is effective, then why aren’t marketers more focused on it?
Let’s look at the facts. According to Nielsen, 92% of consumers believe recommendations from friends and family over all forms of advertising. WOMMA and the American Marketing Association (AMA) decided to find out exactly what brands were doing about that fact. In a recent study, 64% of marketing executives indicated that they believe word of mouth is the most effective form of marketing. However, only 6% say they have mastered it.”
As was mentioned already Bye. Don’t let the door hit you in the you know what…next year stay in Boston ok..Btw (deleted by editor)
Way to go @@phoenix snow birds. Let @Boston Snow Birds convey your warm Sedona welcome to their Phoenix companions. Then let each of them return to their home states for the summer and spread the negative word about Sedona. Best form of reverse promotion which will keep the chamber of commerce well funded trying to reverse the damage. Vicious circle!
Home Rule? Another reason to vote NO.
@JD – Sedona Thank you for taking us seriously. The others who question our integrity aren’t significant for us. What does matter is the verbal disrespect shown to us because we registered a complaint (opinion) that our weekend trip up from Phoenix was not pleasant, probably because of two main events on that same weekend which clearly could not comfortably or safely handle the volume of traffic. So our criticism has turned into a witch hunt for disgruntled tourists? So be it! Another reason for us to tell our friends in Phoenix and elsewhere of our experience, and so on and so on and so on. Yes we’re winter visitors to Arizona but Sedona, thanks to your ongoing insults, will be related as a negative and your nasty comments on this link will back us up. Thanks a lot, losers.
Meeting Cancellation
Date:03/20/2018 5:30 p.m.
Location:City Council Chambers
102 Roadrunner Drive
Sedona, Arizona 86336
I can’t stand the traffic. West Sedona is crazy. Most my neighbors feel the same way.
We find it quicker to go to Cottonwood then try and shop or be entertained in Sedona. This is probably why Cottonwood income is on the rise for restaurants – entertainment – shopping.
Went to Cottonwood to pick up items for a household repair. After that went to a restaurant. I chatted with some other diners on the way out and found it interesting that they were tourists.
The tourists have a timeshare in Sedona and told me to much traffic. They visit Sedona once a year. They go to Cottonwood for entertainment food ect.
Congratulations City you are doing a fabulous job on driving the spending customers to Cottonwood!!!!
HEADS UP SMALL GRANT APPLICANTS
Work Shop Scheduled:
Thursday, March 22, 2018
10:00 AM until Noon
Location: Sedona City Hall, Vultee Conference Room
All Are Welcome – Come One – Come All
Non-Profits clamoring for free money – Show Up!
The Sky’s the Limit in Sedona. Let Them Shine Some Laser-Lighted $$$$$ Of Good Fortune For The Charity of Your Dreams
Yes! ALL ARE WELCOME to this Annual Sedona Money Grab
Opportunity not only knocks in Sedona, it Abounds with Good Fortune for Special Interests!!
Too funny
Your barking up the wrong tree…. (deleted by editor)
I think someone stepped in something cause I smell it all over your post…
Apparently you one of those people talked about here that hate all things Sedona…
Most of us love it here despite your rantings . Perhaps you should sell and move to cottonwood…. One hater leaves(leaves room for) another Sedona lover to enter…
It will be a great karmic change for all.. see ya
Steve can you start up another online blog in direct opposition to this slanted tea party blog..
We can call it Sedona Postive Vision and doers.
We can post the real facts and leave the haters to thier cauldron of hate and despair and crying… in addition we can let outsiders know that 99 percent of us that live here… Love it here….
Oh yes, Small Grants!
This is the time to help those groups with pockets full of money like Sedona Recycles and Humane Society?!?!?!?! Do we need to give Sedona Recycles any money OF COURSE WE DO, IT’S IN OUR COMMUNITY PLAN that we need to do more for the environment. I moved to Sedona because I want to live someplace that cares about good health of body, water and air. But you nay sayers to everything Sedona find fault with everything good.
Sedona City cares about the environment, that is why they are drilling wells to inject waste water into the Cornville Aquifer. Oh, but it is treated wastewater, except the treatment does not remove pharmaceutical chemicals. I want this “treated” wastewater to be served to the Sedona City Council and City management. It should be required they drink and bathe in it.
Injecting waste water into an aquifer is criminal.
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2018/03/14/california-to-start-recycling-sewer-water-into-tap-water-and-yes-its-full-of-insane-chemicals/
Sedona is drilling waste water injection wells into the aquifer, and they are not even sure it is not their own aquifer. I’ve read the report, it’s full of could, might, we think. Scary.
Whiskey is for drinking and water is for fighting. Even in Sedona
You say
“I cznt Stand the traffic”
So the traffic was bad in your hometown of Prescott Valley today? Find out why and write about it in Prescott Valley Eye, ok
Of course the Humane Society, Sedona Recycles and other worthy causes that clearly serve a valid purpose deserve outside funding. However, to give to every single bleeding heart in the entire Verde Valley has become over the top. It should stop, beginning but not ending with the millions of unaccounted dollars thrown at the Chamber of Commerce without one single legitimate audit or tracking of actual return on the investment. You people who just enjoy attacking opposition being conveyed by readers of the Eye seems to be running scared as indicated by your vicious attacks on requests for accountability and transparency.
The city has transferred $ 8,624,208.00 since 2013 to the regional chamber of commerce. Just under 9 million.
VOTE no on Home Rule – Alternative Expenditure Limitation Vote NO
It’s pretty amazing how demands are made for proof of allegations by those who dare to question the legality and ethics of Sedona government. Then on the other hand blatant charges such as @Steve S come out with specific claims as
” We can post the real facts and leave the haters to thier cauldron of hate and despair and crying… in addition we can let outsiders know that 99 percent of us that live here… Love it here….”
And how, Sir or Madam, do you get away with making such claims without facts to prove them? Are they not, IN FACT, simply expressions of your own OPINION?
You accuse others of your own deeds and think you’re being transparent? Definitely another part of the problem without offering a viable solution.
More reasons for changes in administration and declining Home Rule during this upcoming election – In My Opinion!
The city spends more then they bring in. Almost 10 million more is planned on in the budget. 25% of that debt is wasted on the chamber a private club.
The city needs to live within their means.
Stop the paying for private businesses aka chamber ads. Vote No on Homerule