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Eddie Maddock: Sedona Struggles to Maintain Quality of Life

SedonaEye.com Columnist Eddie S. Maddock opines on the struggle to maintain Sedona Arizona’s red rock splendor and quality of life in the face of commercialism, tourism, favoritism, and the resulting eco-unfriendly biohazards.

Sedona AZ (October 21, 2017) – With a flurry of hard core issues presently on the drawing board such as the Fire District Bond, amendments to the Sedona Community Plan which will increase land development density, and the increase of Sedona City sales tax, maybe it has or has not been an oversight to more prominently address the current “Citizen’s Survey” which was mailed to a select number of Sedona City residents.

Not having personally received the survey, several outside contacts related concerns with some of the questions, which resulted in obtaining a copy of the survey via online research and which, with approval of the Editor of SedonaEye.com, is shown in a text format for informational purposes only so as NOT to be confused as an official document to be completed and mailed back to the source contracted for the research.

The results of this “citizen’s survey” may or may not have a tremendous impact on the direction of Sedona’s future. However, considerable unrest exists relating to ongoing troubling changes in the quality of life for those of us who are permanent residents and who moved here to enjoy life with a small town atmosphere.

Although difficult, this informational offering is submitted without comment or editorializing – which will not prevent me from making future comments if it does, in fact, appear on SedonaEye.

SedonaEye? Who dat?

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The City of Sedona 2017 Citizen Survey

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Please complete this questionnaire if you are the adult (age 18 or older) in the household who most recently had a birthday. The adult’s year of birth does not matter. Please select the response that most closely represents your opinion for each question. Your responses are anonymous and will be reported in group form only.

Please rate each of the following aspects of quality of life in Sedona:

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Sedona as a place to live
Your neighborhood as a place to live
Sedona as a place to raise children
Sedona as a place to work
Sedona as a place to visit
Sedona as a place to retire
The overall quality of life in Sedona

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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Overall feeling of safety in Sedona
Overall ease of getting to the places you usually have to visit
Quality of overall natural environment in Sedona
Overall “built environment” of Sedona (including overall design, buildings, parks and transportation systems)
Health and wellness opportunities in Sedona

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Overall opportunities for education and enrichment
Overall economic health of Sedona
Sense of community
Overall image or reputation of Sedona

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Please indicate how likely or unlikely you are to do each of the following:

Very likely Somewhat likely Somewhat unlikely Very unlikely Don’t know
Recommend living in Sedona to someone who asks
Remain in Sedona for the next five years

Please rate how safe or unsafe you feel:

Very safe Somewhat safe Neither safe nor unsafe Somewhat unsafe Very unsafe Don’t know

In your neighborhood during the day
In Sedona’s downtown/commercial area during the day

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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Traffic flow on major streets
Ease of public parking
Ease of travel by car in Sedona
Ease of travel by public transportation in Sedona
Ease of travel by bicycle in Sedona
Ease of walking in Sedona
Availability of paths and walking trails

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Air quality
Cleanliness of Sedona
Overall appearance of Sedona
Public places where people want to spend time
Variety of housing options
Availability of affordable quality housing
Fitness opportunities (including exercise classes and paths or trails, etc.)

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Recreational opportunities
Availability of affordable quality food
Availability of affordable quality health care
Availability of preventive health services
Availability of affordable quality mental health care

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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Availability of affordable quality child care/preschool
K-12 education
Adult educational opportunities
Opportunities to attend cultural/arts/music activities
Opportunities to participate in religious or spiritual events and activities
Employment opportunities

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Shopping opportunities
Cost of living in Sedona
Overall quality of business and service establishments in Sedona
Vibrant downtown/commercial area
Overall quality of new development in Sedona
Opportunities to participate in social events and activities

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Opportunities to volunteer
Opportunities to participate in community matters
Openness and acceptance of the community toward people of diverse backgrounds
Neighborliness of residents in Sedona

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Please indicate whether or not you have done each of the following in the last 12 months.

No Yes

Made efforts to conserve water
Made efforts to make your home more energy efficient
Observed a code violation or other hazard in Sedona (weeds, abandoned buildings, etc.)
Household member was a victim of a crime in Sedona
Reported a crime to the police in Sedona

No Yes

Stocked supplies in preparation for an emergency
Campaigned or advocated for an issue, cause or candidate
Contacted the City of Sedona (in-person, phone, email or web) for help or information
Contacted Sedona elected officials (in-person, phone, email or web) to express your opinion

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In the last 12 months, about how many times, if at all, have you or other household members done each of the following in Sedona?

2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all

Visited a neighborhood park or City park
Used Sedona public libraries or their services
Participated in religious or spiritual activities in Sedona
Attended a City-sponsored event

2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all

Used bus, rail, subway or other public transportation instead of driving
Carpooled with other adults or children instead of driving alone
Walked or biked instead of driving
Volunteered your time to some group/activity in Sedona

2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all

Participated in a club
Talked to or visited with your immediate neighbors
Done a favor for a neighbor
Used the Sedona Hub

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Thinking about local public meetings (of local elected officials like City Council or County Commissioners, advisory boards, town halls, HOA, neighborhood watch, etc.), in the last 12 months, about how many times, if at all, have you or other household members attended or watched a local public meeting?
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Attended a local public meeting
Watched (online or on television) a local public meeting

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Please rate the quality of each of the following services in Sedona:

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Police/Sheriff services
Fire services
Ambulance or emergency medical services
Crime prevention
Fire prevention and education
Traffic enforcement
Street repair
Street cleaning

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Street lighting
Snow removal
Sidewalk maintenance
Traffic signal timing
Bus or transit services
Garbage collection
Recycling
Yard waste pick-up

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Storm drainage
Drinking water
Sewer services
Power (electric and/or gas) utility
Utility billing
City parks
Recreation programs or classes
Recreation facilities

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Land use, planning and zoning
Code enforcement (weeds, abandoned buildings, etc.)
Animal control
Economic development
Health services
Public library services
Public information services

Emergency preparedness (services that prepare the community for natural disasters or other emergency situations)

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

Preservation of natural areas such as open space, farmlands and greenbelts
Sedona open space
City-sponsored special events
Overall customer service by Sedona employees (police, receptionists, planners, etc.)

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Overall, how would you rate the quality of the services provided by each of the following?

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

The City of Sedona
The Federal Government

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Please rate the following categories of Sedona government performance:

Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know

The value of services for the taxes paid to Sedona
The overall direction that Sedona is taking
The job Sedona government does at welcoming citizen involvement
Overall confidence in Sedona government
Generally acting in the best interest of the community
Being honest
Treating all residents fairly

Please rate how important, if at all, you think it is for the Sedona community to focus on each of the following in the coming two years:

Essential Very important Somewhat important Not at all important

Overall feeling of safety in Sedona
Overall ease of getting to the places you usually have to visit
Quality of overall natural environment in Sedona
Overall “built environment” of Sedona (including overall design, buildings, parks and transportation systems)
Health and wellness opportunities in Sedona
Overall opportunities for education and enrichment
Overall economic health of Sedona
Sense of community

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Cities are faced with difficult choices with limited budgets. While the City is currently working on solutions to reduce traffic, please select up to two (2) additional priorities you would want the City to invest in over the next few years:

Additional cultural facilities (museums, theatres, etc.) Additional parks and facilities (playgrounds, sports facilities, etc.)
An Oak Creek park or walk Other
Increase the walkability and bikeability of Sedona None of these
Ensure housing for those who work in Sedona

Please select up to three (3) service areas for the City to contribute additional funding in order to expand existing services over the next few years:

Recycling services Arts and culture programs
Library services Social services (senior center, food banks, etc.)
Animal services Other (please specify)
Business development services None, I’m pleased with levels of service in listed areas

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Please indicate how likely or unlikely you are to use each of the following sources to learn about City issues, activities, events and services:

Very likely Somewhat likely Somewhat unlikely Very unlikely Don’t know

City website (www.sedonaaz.gov) and eNotify emails
Local newspapers (Red Rock News) and websites (www.Sedona.biz)
Local radio stations (100.1, NPR on 103.3 or 88.7, etc.)
Channel 4, the local government TV channel
City Council meetings and other public meetings
Talking with City officials and staff members
City communications via social media
Word-of-mouth

To what extent do you agree or disagree that each of the following would increase your use of a bicycle or walking as a means of alternative transportation:

I would ride a bicycle or walk more often if…

Strongly agree Somewhat agree Somewhat disagree Strongly disagree Don’t know

There were more off-street bike, sidewalks or multi-use paths/trails
I felt safer from traffic while riding a bicycle/walking
I had better health or physical ability to do so
I do not want to use a bicycle or walk as a means of transportation

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To what extent do you support or oppose the City investing in creating sustainability policies and programs in the following areas:

Strongly support Somewhat support Somewhat oppose Strongly oppose Don’t know

Increasing use of alternative energy sources
Encouraging water conservation
Fostering National Forest stewardship (trails, access, etc.).
Increasing recycling services
Developing plans to meet the goal of zero waste in Sedona
Requiring higher green building and development standards

To what extent would you support or oppose the City of Sedona encouraging growth in the following types of businesses/industries?

Strongly support Somewhat support Somewhat oppose Strongly oppose Don’t know

Technology (i.e., life science, R&D)
Outdoor recreation
Tourism (i.e., hotels, restaurants)
Healthcare (i.e., pharmaceutical, hospital, medical offices)
Arts and Entertainment (i.e., graphic design, interior design)
Light warehousing and distribution (i.e., truck operators, stock clerks)

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Our last questions are about you and your household. Again, all of your responses to this survey are completely anonymous and will be reported in group form only.

How often, if at all, do you do each of the following, considering all of the times you could?

Never Rarely Sometimes Usually Always

Recycle at home
Purchase goods or services from a business located in Sedona
Eat at least 5 portions of fruits and vegetables a day
Participate in moderate or vigorous physical activity
Read or watch local news (via television, paper, computer, etc.)
Vote in local elections

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Would you say that in general your health is:

Excellent

Very good

Good

Fair

Poor

What impact, if any, do you think the economy will have on your family income in the next 6 months? Do you think the impact will be:

Very positive

Somewhat positive

Neutral

Somewhat negative

Very negative

What is your employment status?

Working full time for pay

Working part time for pay

Unemployed, looking for paid work

Unemployed, not looking for paid work

Fully retired

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Do you work inside the boundaries of Sedona?

Yes, outside the home

Yes, from home

No

How many years have you lived in Sedona?

Less than 2 years

2-5 years

6-10 years

11-20 years

More than 20 years

Which best describes the building you live in?

One family house detached from any other houses

Building with two or more homes (duplex, townhome, apartment or condominium)

Mobile home

Other

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Is this house, apartment or mobile home…

Rented

Owned

About how much is your monthly housing cost for the place you live (including rent, mortgage payment, property tax, property insurance and homeowners’ association (HOA) fees)?

Less than $300 per month $1,000 to $1,499 per month
$300 to $599 per month $1,500 to $2,499 per month
$600 to $999 per month $2,500 or more per month

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Do any children 17 or under live in your household?

No

Yes

Are you or any other members of your household aged 65 or older?

No

Yes

How much do you anticipate your household’s total income before taxes will be for the current year? (Please include in your total income money from all sources for all persons living in your household.)

Less than $25,000

$25,000 to $49,999

$50,000 to $99,999

$100,000 to $149,999

$150,000 or more

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Please respond to both questions:

Are you Spanish, Hispanic or Latino?

No, not Spanish, Hispanic or Latino

Yes, I consider myself to be Spanish, Hispanic or Latino

What is your race? (Mark one or more races to indicate what race you consider yourself to be.)

American Indian or Alaskan Native

Asian, Asian Indian or Pacific Islander

Black or African American

White

Other

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In which category is your age?
18-24 years 55-64 years
25-34 years 65-74 years
35-44 years 75 years or older
45-54 years

What is your sex?

Female

Male

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Do you consider a cell phone or land line your primary telephone number?

Cell

Land line

Both

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734 Comments

  1. HEADS UP - PENDING ACTION says:

    Sedona City Council Meeting for public discussion of proposed 89 new hotel units addition to new/ existing Marriott.

    Location: Corner of 89A and the high school.

    Based on additional traffic, Planning & Zoning Department recommended against this project. (Findings of the ADOT 2016 study as well as the draft Kimle Horn traffic study indicate the traffic at the 89A high school interchange is projected to increase in excess of 50% in the next 7 years and that’s WITHOUT the proposed hotel.)

    LOCATION AND TIME OF MEETING:

    When : Wednesday, March 20th, 5:30 pm
    Where: Sedona City Hall, Room 102, Roadrunner Dr.

  2. More Blah Blah Blah says:

    The person ID’d as steve Segner just can’t seem to get it. The REAL steve Segner went on record over a year ago that he would no longer contribute comments here.

    So . . . why should anyone take seriously or give credence to the ongoing diatribes from essentially an unknown person? And adding insult to injury, NEVER does the presumed impostor of these ongoing comments offer them as “opinions” which in the past the “real” Segner has demanded from others? Just another Sedona crackpot not to be taken seriously.

    Hit it, Tony! You’re on a roll.

    NO ON HOME RULE

  3. Tony Tonsich says:

    Whoever is writing as Segner, I have to agree, you are right on one thing. As I have said many times I can’t do this by myself. Every city council seat that is up for re election must be filled by someone new.

    We need council members that want to end
    1) NO bid contracts
    2) No home rule, even if home rule wins again with the right city council we can cut out of control spending
    3) excessive city payrolls
    4) If the city manager does not want to follow the instructions of the city council, I’m sure we can find someone who will. Sedona does not belong to the chamber of commerce or city management. It belongs to the resident voters.

    We need more people to run for the city council seats, particularly females that can add their perspective. We can win this and change things.

    I can’t do it by myself, even when I win mayor. As mayor I will do most of the work and lead, but I need your help.

    Unlike the belief of who ever is writing as Segner, it’s your town, and it’s future is up to you.

  4. MaryC says:

    @steve Segner

    When Segner says no to Home Rule will take $12,000,000 from the city, what that really means it will leave $12,000,000 in your pocket. Remember, Yavapai County Supervisor Garrison stated tourists only pay 17% of the sales tax, you pay the rest. The tourist cost impact is way more than they pay.

    No on home rule, it’s your money.

  5. Mike H says:

    The only question you need to ask yourself, Do you think we have enough traffic now or should we keep giving the chamber and others more money so they can advertise for more traffic?

    No to Home Rule.

  6. @Mike H. says:

    Did you pick up on the announcement about the meeting on March 20th (Tuesday NOT Wednesday) about the additional rooms @ The Marriott? Even thinking about it is nuts! Boy oh boy, do we need major changes @ City Hall.

    Tony T – you’re the man! And best of all you admit you cannot do it by yourself. Not to insult you, but ANYTHING would be better than what we have – and that goes for whole damn bunch with one possible exception – the Currivan gentleman. Seems he senses a sane direction but as a lone voice has no chance.

    Supreme Being, please help those of us looking for responsible direction.

    Amen!

  7. Steve Fox says:

    @Mike H

    Where is it posted that there is a meeting on March 20th (Tuesday NOT Wednesday) is that Planning or Council for the Marriott? The calendar is showing a P&Z meeting but there’s no mention about the Marriott anywhere. I get those emails about “everything Sedona” and haven’t gotten anything about a Marriott, how woudl you know that before anyone else?????

    BTW interesting how you like “the Currivan gentleman” you think he “seems the senses a sane direction”. Isn’t he the same Currivan that the RRN did a whole store about how he wanted the owners of Sun Silver to jump ahead of others for something related to zoning all because he buys their (deleted by editor) stuff??? IMO (deleted by editor)

  8. West Sedona Dave says:

    @Mary,

    You and others keep using this 17%…..He works for the county, a county of over 220,000 people live in…..So yes tourism spread over that is 17%.

    The city is somewhere around 65% to 67% of taxes paid by tourism.

    That also goes for the people who say where are a population on 10,000 residents but never count the 3 to 4 million tourists..

    We may have a resident population on 10,000 but at any given time we are far closer to 70,000 to 80,000…and maybe more?

    So anyone who uses those numbers for police ,fire,ect, are totally disingenuous!

  9. Wake Up Sedona says:

    A “no-bid contract” or “sole source contract” is a contract awarded without competitive bidding is given to the Sedona-Regional-Chamber enriching the Chambers-members over 30,000,000 to date!!!!!

    The scam is the in-CIty-Businesses ARE NOT having a VOICE VOTE or even being represented by the REGIONAL-Membership-Chamber. The majority of their members are NON-city- located outside your city.

    Does this sound WRONG????? It is and the chamber along with their affinity-group-sedona-lodging are the ones benefiting while YOU the RESIDENTS and the LEGITIMATE in-city business PAY PAY PAY IMO. This (deleted by editor) is the Scrooge stealing Sedona.

    The SCROOGE only cares about $$$$$. (deleted by editor) their employees, takes all the money. Sound like anyone you know?

    Vote No on home Rule. Let your neighbors know. Vote the special interest OUT!
    Vote private enrichment. Lets cut the crap.

    Vote for Tony T! Save Sedona

  10. @@Mike H says:

    I don’t know much about the Marriott but I take strong exception to your comment about Councilor Currivan, if you think that he is a gentleman, you better check Websters. Go to the video tape of the zoning request for Son Silver West and listen to the words flowing out of Currivans own mouth, he was pushing for special (deleted by editor) for that business because he and his wife “buy” their trinkets there, Currivan (deleted by editor) in my opinion. I made a big mistake voting for him the first time, there is no chance in Hell that I’d ever vote for that man again!

  11. Touche says:

    @Tony Tonsich: “Sedona does not belong to the chamber of commerce or city management. It belongs to the resident voters.”

    True words, Mr. T, but all too often truth and logic are ignored at City Hall. (A current example, the expansion of the Marriott should it be approved.)

    Names of those vying for Joe Vernier’s seat on the City Council are: Janice Hudson, Jessica Williamson, James Curry, Mike Ward, Mike Norman and Jim Weis. Of the lineup, Williamson and Ward previously served as elected council members. Williamson was defeated for a second term.

    The time remaining for that position will be short, from now until the election in November. Because of that doesn’t it stand to reason an experienced person would be a logical choice, with knowledge about the budget planning process as an example?

    Since Williamson was rejected by the voters, who would best fill that slot? Isn’t it obvious? IMO Mike Ward is the most qualified. A man with high principals who always weighed both sides of an issue, asked important questions, and voted his conscience regardless of his personal preferences in the event they didn’t necessarily concur. However, his chances for appointment (again IMO) are slim to none because of perceived close ties the mayor has with someone else.

    Unfortunately it’s doubtful your wise words will be acknowledged. An obviously unified city council is also frequently viewed as having made decisions prior to public meetings. “Resident Voters” be damned is more the rule than the exception.

  12. steve Segner says:

    Tony you never answer any questions
    One more time how will it be better for Sedona to give up $12,000,000? A year
    We all know you hate the chamber, besides that, how will Sedona be better off with $12,000,000 a year less to spend.
    Tony Just how will Sedona complete the $30,000,000 traffic works program with $12,000,000 out of it’s budget and a state mandated budget cap?
    You really think there is $10,000,000 is savings you can cut from the city budget? If yes please show us line by line item you can get the numbers from the city.
    Talk is cheap

  13. Steve segner says:

    Mary c you may not know that Mr. Garrison is a county supervisor and he’s talking a countywide number it has nothing to do with Sedona which gets almost 80% of the tax income from visitors, just correcting your little mistake .
    Mary what does that have to do with taking $12 million from the budget, how are we-going to fix roads

  14. Root Cause says:

    Chamber is rootcause. STOP the chamber!!! SAVE MILLIONS. geeze people the city is even cleaning the chambers bathroom!

  15. Jerry, Legitimate Sedona Voter says:

    There are so many comments on this link it’s hard to keep up. Backtracking I must agree w/the words from

    @Touche says March 9, 2018 at 10:28 am

    However, I also agree with those who took exception to the behavior of Councilman Currivan on the Son Silver West Issue. Clearly to admit personal favoritism as a seated elected public official is pretty obnoxious and most assuredly offensive to residential subdivisions who are well aware and have documentation of the Robson’s transgressions. That property was and remains zoned for “cottage industry” which doesn’t qualify Little Tijuana as being promoted as an “Art Gallery” in a local magazine publication. (IMO)

    But again, the most obnoxious of the lot are the ongoing and overbearing posts made by a variation of the name “steve Segner,” “Steve segner,” etc. Most distressing as those responsible for the ongoing tripe clearly want to hog the slate from others commenting here.

    ////FYI at the bottom of the page there are the top ten comments (which always don’t even cover all new contributions) but gives an insight to input the alleged SEGNER people in proper perspective. A deterrent from more intellectual input. Don’t be fooled. One good method to check comments is to back up and go by date of submission.

    The more I read the more I’m liking this Tony T and I’ve not a clue what the fellow even looks like. Don’t really care. Like his thoughts and what he has to say. NEW BLOOD for a transfusion to save the life of Sedona Schnebly! YES!!

  16. Mary C says:

    @Seger

    Can you read? Your questions have been answered many times, you are just greedy.

  17. Henry B says:

    Would you like to get even with those who would make you prisoners trapped in your home by traffic? To get even with those who would lie and use “gorilla ” tactics? Is it time to be a guerrilla yourself and leave their hotels “appropriate ” feedback on Trip Advisor and Yelp? Will you tell your out of town friends to leave “guerrilla appropriate ” feedback also? Are you mad as hell and not going to take it anymore? They don’t care about our home, shall we show them we don’t care for their businesses?

  18. @Steve Seger says:

    Right on Steve S

    Please keep the “no nothings” accountable for the crazy nonsense that comes out of thier mouths ..

  19. @steve Segner says:

    You created the problem You should fix it. Your buddies in the affinity group should pool your money together. Don’t you want YOUR business to pay its own bills and pay for the damage you all created?

    You should pay for all that playing and $$$ you make. Impact fees to Hotels!!!

  20. Sedona Eye says:

    Sedona eye editor

    You have become so bias and full of it…

    Allowing nonsense to be posted by the same person over and over again Ad naseum…

    Meanwhile those that speak out agaisnt the same rethoric coming from the same person using different names don’t get thier statement posted.

    You have become a con game.

  21. Acid Rock says:

    The nonexistent stever segner becomes more foolish by the minute. (little men deserve small letters)

    For example, “Mary what does that have to do with taking $12 million from the budget, how are we-going to fix roads.”

    Very simple, stevie. Cancel the contract with the chamber of commerce, discontinue financing “their” visitors center, drop contract with Red Earth Theatre for use of city property. Use of the money given to the Chamber would qualify as product development if used for road improvements. Other wasted funds could easily be contributed to more worthy causes such as infrastructure instead of the fluff and stuff to benefit only special interests. Easy peasy, stevey.

    NO ON HOME RULE, by cracky!! Acid Rock On!

  22. Say What? says:

    Holy Smokes – RRN most recent editorial actually pans their great City of Sedona for having scheduled two main events for the same weekend. Miracles do happen?

    Hmmmm perhaps there’s a reason. Having scanned through the last two issues (Wednesday & Friday) Lo & Behold, was unable to locate legal notice(s) and/or agendas for the Council Meeting on Tuesday (13th) and/or Special Council Meeting the following day. Isn’t there a small legal technicality being overlooked here? Like requirement of Public Notice for Public Hearings/Meetings? Or is it possible the City actually did cut one expense by withholding pay-for ads to the RRN and have opted to display such notices online? Of course this City of Sedona would NEVER attempt to do anything shady or illegal would they? NAH!!

  23. Mrs Roger Thomas says:

    My comment is to address Jerry, Legitimate Sedona Voter

    I don’t always agree with you but I respect your right to say it. This time I am totally in agreement when you say:

    “However, I also agree with those who took exception to the behavior of Councilman Currivan on the Son Silver West Issue. Clearly to admit personal favoritism as a seated elected public official is pretty obnoxious and most assuredly offensive to residential subdivisions who are well aware and have documentation of the Robson’s transgressions. That property was and remains zoned for “cottage industry” which doesn’t qualify Little Tijuana as being promoted as an “Art Gallery” in a local magazine publication. (IMO)”

    For those who also agree with Jerry may I remind you that there are many on this board who have spoken out in support of Councilor Currivan do you all STILL WISH TO SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO HAS PUBLICLY SUPPORTED GIVING SPECIAL FAVORS TO ANYONE??? In my opinion I think that Councilor Currivan should be recalled by the AG’s office. All they’d have to do is WATCH THE VIDEO TAPE. Yet, no one on this board seems to have an incentive or the guts to start that fight.

  24. F.Y.I. says:

    At full occupancy, the proposed Residence Inn’s additional 88 units at the Marriott is projected to add approximately 700 more car trips per day to Hwy 89A traffic. If approved on March 20, expect the exploding traffic generated by the Marriott to create safety issues for people with emergencies heading to the Sedona Medical Center.

  25. Jess Wundrin says:

    @Sedona Eye – “Allowing nonsense to be posted by the same person over and over again Ad naseum…”

    Agree – all those comments from various forms of Steve Segner after he went on record in January 2017 that he would never make comments here again are B-O-R-I-N-G!! Same old garbage allegedly from some voice(s) of authority who think they know E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G.

    BTW @Mrs. Roger Thomas – “may I remind you that there are many on this board who have spoken out in support of Councilor Currivan ”

    Just what “board” are you talking about??

  26. @Mrs Roger Thomas says:

    Funny Currivan is the least of those council idiots. The city managers should be given the boot with the hairbrain 7 year contract with the chamber. This includes the ENTIRE city council and every person in city management.
    The assistants and managers violated Code of Ethics in many ways. The City management has never looked out for the incorporated city district (Deleted by editor) IMO and you are one of them

  27. @Mrs. Roger Thomas says:

    “In my opinion I think that Councilor Currivan should be recalled by the AG’s office. ”

    In my own opinion Councilor Currivan’s example of one biased decision pales in comparison with what’s gone in Sedona during at least the last five years. Or since the city council approved the contract with the Chamber of Commerce without first obtaining bids.

    And then allowing the City financed Chamber of Commerce to discriminate against in-city-limit businesses unless they are Chamber members? Condoning promotion of non-tax collecting businesses outside Sedona City Limits with Sedona City revenue?

    If anything shouldn’t the AG’s office be investigating misappropriation of Sedona City funds, especially without official and reliable outside outside audits? Where are our State Representatives on this?

    Oh – forgot – they are busy defending city policy of collecting monthly sewer fees on vacant properties according to City Attorney Robert Pickels as he explained at one of the council meetings. Sick? But yet another reason to vote NO on Home Rule. Force that C of C money to be spent to benefit tourists as well as residents by providing safe and adequate roads and traffic control. Enough frivolous, uncontrolled spending on special interests.

  28. JJ says:

    @Mrs. Roger Thomas- Ther are too many other council members that would fall into the recall category. Try anyone but Councilman Currrivan. Start with Mayor Sandy who has said there are no city boundaries. We pay they play. Get off your high horse. You fall into the taker category Karen.

  29. Gloria Stein says:

    Hello board writers, I am a resident of Sedona for only 2 years and have remained mute to the bickering and bantering I do like to check in once in a while though to get stuff that the red rock news won’t publish. Can someone please explain to me how a recall is done in AZ? I too am sick and tired of politicians doing illegal things and like Mrs Rogers says, there is a councilman in Sedona who wanted to give special favors to his friends. My town in FLA was filled with politicians who did that and there was no recall process. If someone answers my question about this and it’s not too difficult, I would be interested in joining a committee to help.

  30. Jen M. says:

    @Mrs Rogers And JJ, count me in as part of your recall efforts. Better plan than other options being thrown around on this sight. And probably more do-able. Jen

  31. Mary Vivian Nyanja says:

    F.Y.I. says:
    March 11, 2018 at 7:58 am
    At full occupancy, the proposed Residence Inn’s additional 88 units at the Marriott is projected to add approximately 700 more car trips per day to Hwy 89A traffic. If approved on March 20, expect the exploding traffic generated by the Marriott to create safety issues for people with emergencies heading to the Sedona Medical Center.

    Hey you deadbeats, how about THE VULNERABLE STUDENTS at the school too. Has it occurred to anybody that the city manager if history repeats itself will not be here in five years and could give a rats a^^ about development exploding on his watch?

  32. Sedona Eye says:

    Thanks all for proving my point

    Sedona Eye has become a biased joke most postings are by the same person ( fake new and opinions)

    Opposition to the Sedona Haters rarely posted.
    Enjoy your biased fake online blog . Take heed new people who stumble upon this joke of an o formation blog:

    98 percentage of ya who live here love Sedona.. the other 2 percentage love to cry and complain and need a mental health tweaking

  33. GNS says:

    No contract bids, lack of transparency, questionable breaches of the open meeting law (i.e. a quorum of council members riding in a car or attending events together) and now lack of official “public notice” regarding city council meetings? Where are Thorpe, Barton, and Allen on these questionable practices? Why do they refuse to address the issues via SB1487, requesting an investigation by the Attorney General? Are they, themselves, also guilty of similar violations? Just asking.

  34. Increased funding for Arizona Municipalities under Arizona Department of Revenue’s transaction privilege tax 2017 distribution says:

    Read for yourself. ALL CITIES income is up according to the State.

    Increased funding for Arizona Municipalities under Arizona Department of Revenue’s transaction privilege tax 2017 distribution
    It was a successful 2017 for 91 Arizona municipalities under the Arizona Department of Revenue’s (ADOR) transaction privilege tax (TPT) program.

    In 2017, more than $2.7 billion in municipal TPT was collected and distributed to the participating cities and towns for local programs and services by ADOR.

    The 14 cities that joined the TPT’s single point of administration and collection of business taxes in 2017 received in excess of $1.9 billion, a 6.3 percent increase from expectations at the start of last year.

    “The transaction privilege tax program benefits both Arizona businesses and the communities they operate in,“ said Arizona Department of Revenue Director David Briant. “Through TPT’s single point of sales tax administration and collection, the Agency delivered increased funds for participating cities and towns and their residents.”

  35. Seen It All - NOT says:

    Another opinion. Speaking of favoritism, wait and see who is handed the vacant chair left by Joe Vernier. Don’t be surprised if it’s someone who was rejected by Sedona Voters. Sure hope not but based on the trend – well? Will a majority of council members jump on the bandwagon? If so definitely time for a recall.

  36. MARTINEZ MUST RECUSE says:

    F.Y.I. says:
    March 11, 2018 at 7:58 am
    At full occupancy, the proposed Residence Inn’s additional 88 units at the Marriott is projected to add approximately 700 more car trips per day to Hwy 89A traffic.

    If approved on March 20? Lots of behind the scenes happenings. No more zone changes when the city has admitted to major traffic issues already. Please attend meeting. There are other hotels waiting in line.

    Martinez has already promised a yes vote on this one . He needs to recuse himself from the vote-conflict of interests.

  37. steve Segner says:

    Tony
    you never got back to us with how you would run the Sedona under “NO” ON HOME RULE
    with $12,000,000 taken out of our budget.

    Well this may help just one idea.

    Police cost $5,500.00 so we just go to county policing in each 1/2 of Sedona. Saves $3,000,000 county will still charge for one or two officers.

    Then you can cut public works $3,000,000 (roads) stop cleaning up town, general maintenance no paving etc.I could go on and on.

    Cut the city city hall staffing by 30% that will save $2,000,000 + we still need people to pay bills and city council p&z meetings etc. Some services are mandated by state.

    Cut staff that inspect buildings and issue plan checks and permits. Open office once a week and raise the fees to builders for permits.

    Still $4,000,000 short, we can just double the sewer fees under state law that is one of the few areas we can charge more!! Thank god.

    Still short, the bed tax is off the table,( I checked) state law is clear, can not be uses to support the general fund ,and remember we are taking money away not adding it,the state say how much money the city will get,all extra monies will just sit in a bank account we can not use.

    Closing all the parks and layoff most service staff and we get close to the $ 12,000,000.

    No road work, paving, no re working 89A and 179 stop the $30,000,000 work program .05% new sales tax money can not be used.

    Sewer will need to be {self supporting no public funding}. Easy place to start. $100.00+ a month will cover that cost.

    I think everyone should look at the city budget and come up with there own plan, Im sure there a lot of way to save $12,000,000 just remember state laws dictate some survives

    We will stop “all” capitol programs and that wood save $12,000,000 +

    So the question is WHY WE ARE giving up $12,000,000?

    All I can come up with is SPITE. The “T” party wants to stop giving money to goverment.
    That works unless you want services.
    I am looking forward to the “Yes”** on home rule campaign.

    I think the average Sedona resident will not want to see
    services disappear and sewer fees double or triple… Do you ?
    going to be fun running up to election**….. I will be working for 100% YES voite !!!

    Just an up date on

    **Guerrilla marketing is an advertisement strategy concept designed for businesses to promote their products or services in an unconventional way with little budget to spend. This involves high energy and imagination focusing on grasping the attention of the public in more personal and memorable level.

  38. @steve Segner says:

    Or should it be @Non-Steve Segner.

    Conspicuous by absence in your line-up of budget cuts is the contract with the chamber of commerce. Bed tax can be used for roads = Product Development.

    No surprises, SS. Scare tactics is the name of your game. DUH!

  39. Missing Link says:

    @Increased funding for Arizona Municipalities under Arizona Department of Revenue’s transaction privilege tax 2017 distribution

    One thing you neglected to mention is the revenue being lost to both city & state from the promotion by the chamber of their members outside city limits that aren’t required to collect it. Oops!

    Reps. Thorpe & Barton; Sen. Allen, are you paying attention?

  40. look what we pay for! says:

    It is bad enough we pay the salaries for the Hub. They are really getting upscale with the garage sale.
    ‎Sedona Posse Grounds Hub‎ to HUB ‘Green Room’ Garage Sale

    Make sure you come by between 8am-4pm on Saturday 17th to the Hub – cool stuff, music, art and a fabulous view. Bring a picnic and enjoy the patio. Support the Hub and Red Earth Theatre.

    Kick them out

  41. Mrs Roger Thomas says:

    To the unnamed person who wrote me saying:

    “In my own opinion Councilor Currivan’s example of one biased decision pales in comparison with what’s gone in Sedona during at least the last five years. Or since the city council approved the contract with the Chamber of Commerce without first obtaining bids”.

    Interesting how you’re trying to divert everyone’s attention from Councilor Currivan. It really doesn’t “pale in comparison” at all.

    I asked the question a few days ago how the poster would know about the Marriott hotel proposal when it wasn’t on any website or distribution blast. Interesting how no one wants to answer that. Hummmm

  42. There he goes again Scare Tactics says:

    There he goes again trying to SCARE you to vote SO we the taxpayers PAY his BILLS.

    BS IMO Vote NO on home rule!

  43. Tony Tonsich says:

    There are almost 600 comments on this topic. If Segner can’t read or remember all that is written it’s not my job to hold him by the hand and review them.

    There is huge waste, favoritism and no bid contracts as noted before. If you want to change the direction of Sedona and take your town back, vote NO on home rule and vote in a new city council. Resident sewer fees and sales tax will be LOWER under my leadership.

    If you want to live in a high tax bumper to bumper traffic tourist trap, believe what Segner tells you. I’m not in the tourist business like Segner or the Chamber of Commerce. I’m for optimism and a town that puts residents first.

  44. Tony Tonsich says:

    The easiest way to disprove what Segner says is the following quote from him

    “No road work, paving, no re working 89A and 179 stop the $30,000,000 work program .05% new sales tax money can not be used.”

    Both HWY 89A and 179 are state of Arizona maintained highways.

    It’s your money, Segner thinks it belongs to him. There is going to be a lot of fear, the sky is falling, BS. WE can change things. Sedona was here before there was a City of Sedona.

  45. Mary Lee says:

    Thank you Mr. Tonsich for being a voice of reason (among others but not including those from S. Segner in the “almost 600 comments” posted here.)

    And considering the subject article is related to quality of life, and re-reading the ridiculous and manipulative survey that wasn’t mailed out to ALL registered voters, what could be more encouraging and appropriate than a sane approach.

    As for the asinine remark from “Mrs. Roger Thomas” relating to the City/Chamber/Contract Con-Game (my opinion) it most certainly is more despicable than any other Sedona atrocities over the years. MY OPINION, Mrs. Thomas – get it? Why not spend your time and money shopping at the City owned Hub where Red Earth Theatre is also having a field day, expenses paid by Sedona taxpayers.

  46. SteveSegner says:

    Tony, says NO on home rule !
    No on home rule take $12,000,000 from the city budget more in following years(fact)
    Tony, Sedona is planning for almost $30,000,00 in new road work on 89a up town, the city owned portion of 89a. And at the(Y) and yes on 179 and much much more.
    The city council approved the out line of the plan, and the new .05% sales tax is in place, for the road work called out in the $250,000 traffic study.

    Did you not read the memo or go the numerous city meetings ?

    And you want to me mayor?
    You say “Resident sewer fees and sales tax will be LOWER under my leadershi”.
    ok how, with $12,000,000 less tax income……
    Just answer the question how do you take out $12,000,000 from city budget and support services? Remember you are the one calling for the NO vote!

    Just show us. Show us your plan, you want to me mayor y.Tony you said “There are almost 600 comments on this topic” will not work,
    .. Your are running for office , tell us how you will balance the budget with $12,000,000 in less income!

  47. Donald M says:

    You are all wrong as usual Tony

    Steve S speaks with facts and knows what he is talking about..
    As for you, you continue to speak your nonsense and l misinformation just as you have for years and years here on SE.

    (deleted by editor)

  48. Question says:

    Is Sedona still the city you invested in?

    Are the following the path you like?

    Traffic

    Small town charm -Corporate Greed is running and using YOUR taxes for their own benefit

    Citizens DISENGAGEMENT – Those that reside outside city limits are playing in city politics while WE the legitimate Residents PAY

    Businesses suffering & getting push out due to high costs- Rents, taxes, franchise fees, biz permits, taxes on their rents & utilities WHILE the city GIFTS the REgional-Chamber who are a majority of NON-Contributing businesses OUTSIDE the city limits become MILLIONAIRES off of YOUR BACKS!

    Vote NO on Home Rule!

    Restrict the city council!!!!

  49. JeanJ says:

    Certain City government departments charge the Wastewater Fund for related work they do for the sewer plant.

    Departmental Allocations totaling $1,056,950 are budgeted for this year. I.e., Information Technology, $180,040; Human Resources, $51,140; Financial Services, $189,420; Utility Billing, $370,640; General Services, $73,470; City Manager, $68,080; City Clerk, $5,650; City Attorney, $55,100; and Facilities Maintenance, $63,410.

    Isn’t this discrimination? The City Manager’s Office doesn’t charge for the related work it does for the Chamber of Commerce.

  50. State owns 179 & most of 89A says:

    State owns 179 & most of 89A!

    The only portion of 89A the city owns is in uptown.

    STOP the insane CIty Council.

    Vote out the users CONTROLLING your Town.
    Vote no on home rule.

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