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Sedona AZ (October 28, 2012) – The SedonaEye.com editor received this message via email from a local reader. It is published as received without editing or comment:
Jerry Reynolds writes…Seen this? This from Kristin Monday who started the petition “stop Jet Fuel Dumping! Save the Sedona Sanctuary”
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It has been a long hard year, with many more jet fuel dumps and jet fuel dispersion over my roof and others’ homes in Sedona.
Good news: After calling the FAA in Los Angeles in June, they sent the FBI to my home that same day. I spent 2.5 hours talking to the FBI about the airport, 36 hours later the Sedona airport manager left his position. The airport manager had a contract worth $500,000 that was renewed in January, 2012 for five more years.
Photos taken by pilots of EPA violations were also turned in to me, showing the old pavement saturated with oil and gas was used as landfill instead of being disposed of according to EPA regulations. This is a separate issue for the EPA to deal with.
I have retained the services of Howard Shanker to file suit against the county and airport for noise nuisance, jet fuel and lead poisoning. This suit is open for all in Sedona to sign up under, whether it is for noise only or noise and health issues, including lead poisoning. A national legal team is assembling to file a suit on behalf of everyone being affected.
Common symptoms of jet fuel exposure are high blood pressure, racing heart/elevated pulse, stroke, heart attacks, liver pain, liver spasms, liver pain, aching joints, muscle spasms, cancer, motor coordination problems, Fibromyalgia, etc.. These problems subside when exposure lessens or ceases, such as a vacation away from Sedona and during low air traffic periods.
You can view a copy of my blood test on the front page of www.closetheairport.com This is in comparison to those who have occupational exposure.
Local pilots are working to discredit me, claiming I talk about chemtrails which is untrue and unrelated to our localized problem here. They also claim, “that I am lying about noise and pollution and that my website is extremist.” They always make sure to never mention the extremely high levels of jet fuel in my blood, as blood tests do not lie. It is unfortunate for the airport supporters that I knew enough to get a test for jet fuel, and where to go get this test and had the money to afford said tests.
Before the Sedona Airport was expanded there were full page ads taken out in the Sedona Red Rock Newspaper, warning that people would get poisoned by benzene and other jet fuel petro chemicals if the runway was expanded and jets could land here. Those ads and the petition were ignored, the Sedona Community Master Plan was thwarted and now people have died. Life is not sustainable with that level of jet fuel in one’s blood. The liver and biliary tract system take the hit as they attempt to remove the jet fuel, the jet fuel is filtered into by the liver and goes through the biliary tract. The high level of toxins becomes progressive and accumulative until the organ systems fail and DNA is damaged and cancer sets in.
The Sedona Airport is in violation of the federal Clean Air Act. The Sedona Airport operates off the backs of everyone who lives here, costing us lost health, medical bills and death. Who is paying for the disease and suffering of those living here? A jet fuel test costs $750 dollars. I have paid for two so far. Lead tests are hundreds of dollars each, treatment is thousands of dollars and limited. Lead poisoning causes permanent brain damage, children suffer the most. My neighbors boys are both being chelated at age 4 and 8, so am I and other neighbors. I did not have lead poisoning for three years when I moved into my home.
The County should pay for all of us to be tested and treated. People on both ends of the runway are reporting smelling jet fuel in their yards when jets fly over head to land at the Sedona Airport. This is in addition to the noise violations for a redundant airport that serves no valid use expect as recreation. A dozen people flying in to Sedona to eat a $9.00 breakfast at 6 am on Saturday morning destroys the life of those underneath them trying to sleep! Decibel levels in our homes are as high as 200 from a single airplane and then we have days that the planes fly by every few minutes all day long! Sedona has 4 million visitors and a fractional of a percent use the airport to get here and they do not stay at the airport lodge.
Sedona is an amazing town but it is being destroyed by one user group; this has to end! Everyone had a right to breath clean safe air, have peaceful enjoyment of their home and a quiet forest to walk in. Hang gliders are banned from flying over Wilderness but not helicopters and airplanes in Sedona Wilderness!
Any Sedonan who dislikes hearing aircraft or helicopter noise athome, in the national forest or in Wilderness, or any Sedonan who has lead poisoning or has had jet fuel symptoms, or smells fuel or exhaust on their property can be included in the lawsuit at no cost.
The number to call to add your name to the lawsuit is 928-202-3612.
View the petition | View and reply to this message online
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It is one thing to be upset about noise. But to say 12 aircraft coming in for breakfast once a week are giving you lead poisoning is completely ridiculous. You are wasting a whole bunch of energy on lawyers, who are probably urging you to spend your money on this fight. You get more lead from looking at a fishing sinker than you will get from a dozen planes flying over your head all day long. As for the other symptoms…it’s called stress. You are unhappy with your situation, whatever it may be, of course vacation is going to make the symptoms go away. I wish you the best in finding a better way to spend your days on earth.
I forgot to mention. There is no lead in jet fuel, and jets only dump fuel in the movies. Find something else to annoy. Like the Taliban or something.
I’ll be flying to Sedona in Nov, 2013 to vacation for a week. Sounds like you may have extra room and extra money. Can I stay at your place while I’m there? I’ll gladly give you a ride in my plane. Awaiting your reply.
@Ronnie
So I suppose the jet fuel chemicals in her blood test are stress related also?
I suggest you go read my website. My blood test is on the front page of the website. You obviously do not know what you are talking about. Stress does not cause jet fuel to be in one’s blood. I like the way you belittle the jet fuel in my blood, all the cancer cases in my area and all the lead poisoning we have including 4 and 8 year old boys who are being chelated for lead poisoning who live under the airport.
I never claimed there was lead in jet fuel or that lead poisoning came from only 12 airplanes having breakfast once a week. What do you think 79,000 flights per year directly over our roofs did? Think maybe that is where the lead came from? All those small piston planes running on leaded AV gas, not 12 airplanes a week. We have 25,000 flight per year now, all over our neighborhood. Small planes make up 50% of the lead in our air and we have them a few hundred feet over our heads. You probably don’t even know how dangerous lead is, especially to children. But hey this is Sedona who cares about those kids anyway? As long as my house is not near the airport right?
Thanks for being a great human being and concerned citizen “Ronnie.”
I should go annoy to the Taliban? This is what is wrong with our world, sick, arrogant, selfish people who only care about themselves and think their idiotic opinion matters. Or I should say nothing I have been told that and let everyone else get sick and die and they never know why? Life is not sustainable with these kinds of jet fuel levels in ones blood and liver. My neighbor Amanda just died from liver cancer at 21 years old! This is impossible without extreme environmental toxicity.
Since you are so smart Ronnie, please go track down the cause of the jet fuel in our blood. Funny a Gulfstream pilot told me to test for the jet fuel and told me the jets dump here. So I waited until a large jet dumped a copious amount of fuel that we could smell all over our yard and then we both got tested. I also have pilots who are witnesses to the dumping, an attorney and my husband is a doctor who was in the Air Force, so you are wrong again. Go read my whole website. It has detailed information on lead and the jet fuel dumping. You can also quit trying to twist my words around and belittle the situation here; I won’t stand for it.
Unhappy with my situation, how about appalled with the destruction or our environment, making it uninhabitable and the murder of people in their own homes. You let me know how you feel after breathing a large dose of jet fuel, and then have extremely high blood pressure, a pounding heart and liver pain for three days. How would you feel? Think the government ought to protect the people who live here? We are stuck laying in bed all night breathing this crap. Imagine having a resting pulse in bed pulse of 155 all night! As time goes by the level of toxicity is progressive and accumulative until our organs fail, our DNA is damaged and we get cancer. This is what is going on in Sedona!
I have a group of environmental attorneys who are helping us for free. 88% of the town doesn’t want the airport here for on reason or another and more would not want it here if they realized how toxic it is.
Maybe you should not have bought a house under the airport! Didn’t think of that one did you?
and not to mention that those symptoms you list are symptoms to about a thousand other health issues and causes! maybe there is asbestos in the fuel too! get a life man. if you don’t like it effing move somewhere else…..your just a tourist anyway!
The airport director most likely left because he was tired of dealing with this lady. I know I would be. He has been dealing with her from day one since he started. What about the people who live in LA, Chicago, NY, Phoenix, Seattle, San Francisco. All of these areas have flight paths that fly directly over residential areas. Those citizens aren’t complaining about jets flying over or lead poisoning or jet fuel because it’s a non-issue. As for the number of jets flying into Sedona…..at any given day, you can go to flightaware.com and see how many jets come in and out by the number of IFR flight plans that are filed. I would be hard pressed to say there are more than 8 per week. This lady is off her rocker.
What an uninformed idiot this guy is. Leveraging federal agencies to further his bogus agenda should enrage everyone who pays taxes. Moving in next to airport and then complaining about noise and other effects is proof the guy is not paying much attention to much of anything in his surroundings. Oil and fuel soaked into asphalt paving is hazardous material? What do you suppose asphalt is made from? I’ll give you a hint—crude petroleum products and aggregate. This is simply another foolish proclamation from an idiot. Sorry—society shouldn’t have to answer to radicals like this guy.
As a pilot, i can tell you that when I’m on final approach to either end of the runway, the last thing I think about doing is dumping fuel. I’m watching airspeeds, angle of attacks, wind, other aircraft, etc, etc, etc. On top of that, jet fuel is too expensive to just dump unless there is a dire emergency. Airplanes and jets have been around long before you came on this earth, and they will continue to be here long after you are gone. Good luck on your battle, but it’s a lost cause.
I just was reading your “website” and you site density altitude as a reason why jets dump fuel. What about Aspen, CO? Leadville,CO, Durango, CO, etc, etc. Those airports get 10 times the jet traffic that Sedona gets yet, those are some of the hardest approaches and departures in the US…..let alone not to mention that Leadville is the highest airport in the United States and yet jets and private aircraft depart and land hundreds of times a day at these places. All without incident.
I’m sorry, but you lost ALL CREDIBILITY with the decible level part (amongst many of the other ludicris claims). 200 decibles isn’t even physically possible. To the author: can you please state whether or not the airport was there already when you moved into that location. THank you.
Your website lists aircraft that are capable of dumping fuel, and it’s full of 747, 767, and other large transport category aircraft. NOT the small bizjets that utilize Sedona airport. They are not able to dump fuel, and as stated above, wouldn’t if they could. That makes absolutely no sense, and in fact is nothing but the stuff of Hollywood screenwriters.
Based on my reading of your ailments and symptoms, may I suggest you spend your attorney’s fees on some good psychiatric help, and maybe some aroma therapy candles to ease your stress. And, a high colonic or two to flush the “jet fuel” out of your system might lower your so-called lab values. Wow!!!!
Well I for one am going to hire a bunch of crazy ambulance chasing attorney’s to start a lawsuit against the people responsible for stacking red rocks in circles and piles all over Sedona. they have ruined my natural setting and disturbed my inner peace! I will seek one trillion dollars from those responsible and when I do I will donate it all to the Sedona Airport so that I can fly nonstop from my hometown of Sedona to anywhere in the country that I like. So I suggest you all start selling your homes . I will ensure that the Airplanes become Larger and more frequent!
This whole topic upsets me to no end as a pilot. Ms. Monday, you stated that the “2 million” dollars that the airport got is going to be used to bring commercial jets into Sedona. Do you know nothing about aviation? I think you don’t. A Gulfstream V (5) is about as big a private jet that you can get into this airport. A G-V can hold a maximum of 18 people with crew. That aircraft has globe trotting capabilities if it is fully loaded with fuel.
But according to you these jets are dumping fuel after they take off…..RIGHT OVER YOUR HOUSE. It’s as if they know right where you live. That is insane. If I’m non-stop from Sedona to Paris in a G-V, I’m going to want every ounce of fuel I have in my tanks. Larger aircraft require longer runways. Where are they going to expand the runway to bring these larger commercial aircraft in? The FAA requires airports to have minimum runway lengths for various types of aircraft. There is no where for the runway to be expanded. Your “visions of grandeur” that you have for the Sedona airport are all in your head. But it would be great to have a little airport that is hustling and bustling. It would certainly help alleviate traffic along 179 with all the tourists driving up from Phoenix who flew into Sky Harbor. I would love to see it happen!!!!!
I agree with Hannibal…….I’d spend your money on mental help instead of fighting a losing battle.
200db yeah right. The noise on the deck of an aircraft carrier with fighter jets that are A LOT LOUDER then anything that flies into Sedona approaches 140db, and that is standing about 20 feet away from a jet at full power for take off. Exaggerating a little?
Also, jet fuel is VERY expensive when compared to car gas. No one is going to just dump it after takeoff, it costs too much. VERY FEW business jets even have the capability.
May I suggest you find a new place to live and this time you look at a map to see what is next to your new home BEFORE you move there. It is really irritating when someone moves next to an airport, recreational area, etc. that has been there for decades before they were born then complains about it.
Dear Kristin:
I believe that someone a few months ago suggested that you MOVE if you don’t like where you live. The airport was here before you moved here and will remain long after you’ve left. Your facts are wrong and I hope that after you’re done with this nonsense, the airport authority sues you for slander.
Hey lady, read your own web site: only large airliners can dump fuel, and they don’t fly into Sedona. Time to get your tin-foil hat adjusted.
Hello,
Imagine what this woman could do if she focused her energy on fixing one problem and not taking on the entire airport’s physical and emotional universe. If it’s dumping fuel and you have proof, then go for it. If it’s quality of air and you have proof, then go for it, If it’s lead exposure and you have proof, then go for it. She dillutes her effectiveness with myopia ( and histrionics) towards an inanimate object — the airport that isn’t going anywhere ( the council and monied property owners with ties to the council recently got permission to develop the airport more ) — the powers that run this city and airport did not throw dollars down a drain — the airport will not close no matter how many people die in plane crashes or scenic area polluting flyovers happen.
Successful people harness disbelief and skepticism. She needs to see her own shortcomings and limitations and lacking public support is that result.
This is my opinion but I thought worth writing for her consideration. ( I enjoy the liveliness of the comments. Several were humorous and others informative.)
Barbara (no last name please), Sedona
I love how Ms. Monday wants people to look at her blood test results on her website, but all it is is a report. There’s no name or anything on it that links it to HER blood. For all we know, that’s a test result from a lab rat that they’ve been injecting with kerosene. More completely useless BS from her.
I can feel my own blood pressure rise everytime her site comes up as a topic of conversation. Anyone know a good ambulance chaser?
You are right I should have looked at maps and investigated the airport more instead of trusting the Realtors and Brokers involved. Frankly I did not know the airport was that bad here. It was quiet when I looked at the house and even quiet for a long time after I bought it.
My real estate broker LIED and the listing agents failed to disclose the airport traffic on the listing- yes that is illegal. It was noisy at Mystic Hills when I looked at houses there and when I looked at this house it was quiet. I told my broker “no airport noise.” So she lied knowing I would not look at the house if I knew it would have noise because she needed a commission! In reality I also should have paid a lot less for the house.
Flightaware does not list most of the jets landing here, this is a voluntary system not mandatory; almost none of the jets are listed. I count seven jets landing in one morning and not one is listed on flightaware.
The decibel level came from Rob at the Sedona airport, call him and ask. Rob told Jill and Rob Elliott that there is an airplane that is that loud and when it flies he gets a lot of complaint phone calls at the airport.
Building a bigger motel on the mesa has nothing to do with the airport except for the rent it pays; the people who use the airport rarely stay at that motel.
I never said jets “dump fuel when they take off.” Fuel is not “too expensive” that is nothing when your jet is worth $10-40 million. It’s worth it to loss a couple thousand in fuel to save time driving.
If there is NO JET FUEL DUMPING why do we smell jet fuel when jets are landing and (not taking off when they burn more fuel) and then we have extremely high heart rates going from 63 to 155 while laying in bed, very high blood pressure, liver pain and these blood test results showing jet fuel in our blood?
Your responses that “jets only dump jet fuel in movies” is a non statement. Since you all have an opinion that I am wrong, just answer my questions. Talking about asbestos is also asinine and has nothing to do with jet fuel or lead. It is kind of amazing that we smell jet fuel, have ALL THE SYMPTOMS OF JET FUEL INHALATION AND THE BLOOD TESTS, YET THE PEOPLE COMMENTING HERE IGNORE THIS? What is up with that people?
According to the Zurich Int’l Airport small business class jets can and do dump jet fuel. This is on the front page of my website which explains jet fuel dumping and that large and small jets can both dump. If your maximum landing weight is less than your take off weight, your jet is supposed to have fuel dumping capabilities. If you land over weight you can damage your jet and at a minimum the aircraft needs to be re-certified. Then your jet is grounded and you must wait and pay to be re-certified.
There is no jet fuel dumping next to the Sky Harbor Airport, their blood tests do not look like mine. From I read here none of you cares how much pollution is here, nor how many people get cancer and die from breathing this pollution and fuel. The land formations here hold the pollution. Our air quality is generally poor and obviously extremely dangerous in my area.
No one is told that their blood is going to be full of jet fuel from living near the Sedona Airport. It doesn’t even seem possible and it’s nothing I would have ever thought of or believed. I didn’t even know we had much air traffic in Sedona because it was not over town and I did not know we had jets here!
While none of you are concerned about how toxic it is here, a top jet fuel toxicologist is very concerned after looking at our blood tests. These test results are NOT normal. No one living near an airport should have this much jet fuel in their blood and this is Sedona, a small podunk airport. No one would ever imagine their lives and health were at risk from this small airport, including pilots.
Mrs. Monday, if you legally can prove that the real estate broker lied then there is a state and industry system for recourse that does not require any lawyers. Check it out. It might be best though not to state publicly that the airport was not an issue for quite a long time after you bought it?
You are grasping as straws here Kristin. As a general aviation and commercial pilot, you don’t stand a chance shutting down the Sedona airport. Your response above is mediorce at best. When I was a kid, I worked at a commercial aiport as an aircraft refueler. I had jet fuel spilled on me and 100LL avgas would dry on my skin. I was around aircraft as they started up and taxied and would get blasted with jet fuel exhaust. I personally love the smell of jet fuel after its been combusted. I was 18 at the time. I’m now 35…..I did that for 3 years while I was in college…..5 days a week I was exposed to this stuff. I am as healthy as an Ox. And as a commercial pilot, I have to get a physical every year to ensure that I’m healthy…….never have had any issues…thats on top of my personal yearly physical that I get from my MD……that physical is more extensive than my FAA exam……..so from one resident to another. YOUR CLAIMS ARE BOOOOOOOGUS!!!!
Hi Don,
Thank you for the tip. I don’t think it matters if it was quiet when I bought the house, the Realtors broke the law. Particularly frustrating that we told Miss Broker that we had a bad feeling about the house and didn’t want to see it but had we no valid reason for this feeling. We could not find anything wrong with the house, it is new and beautiful with great views. I hired the best home inspector too.
30th Congressional District of California
Rep. Henry A. Waxman
For Immediate Release: October 23, 2012
Karen Lightfoot: (202) 225-5735
Rep. Waxman Calls on FAA to Reduce Lead Emissions By Expanding Use of Unleaded Fuel
LOS ANGELES, CA — Today Rep. Henry A. Waxman sent a letter to Michael Huerta, Acting Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), to encourage expanded use of unleaded fuels to reduce toxic lead emissions from general aviation aircraft, particularly in airports with close proximity to residential areas. Although the FAA has committed to a replacement for leaded fuel by 2018, it may take 11 years or more to fully phase in a new fuel.
“General aviation fuel now accounts for half of the lead emissions in the United States,” said Rep. Waxman. “It is a major concern for residents living near the Santa Monica Airport. The FAA says it has a plan for a new fuel to be available in a decade or so, but there are unleaded alternatives available now for the vast majority of small aircraft. The FAA needs to do more to promote their use. We need to get the lead out today.”
http://waxman.house.gov/sites/waxman.house.gov/files/documents/UploadedFiles/Letter%20to%20FAA%20on%20Leaded%20AvGas%2010-23-12.pdf
Here again grasping. Have you been to Santa Monica? They probably have about anywhere between 300-500 departures a day. Right next to LAX, it serves as a reliever airport for private jets from LAX. No where close to Sedona’s 10-20 arrivals a day.
The following was taken from Wikipedia.com:
100LL
The most commonly used aviation fuel is 100LL, that is, “low lead”. It is dyed blue and contains a relatively small amount of tetraethyl lead—though the amount is greater than what was contained in many automotive grades of leaded fuel before such fuel was phased out. As of Jan 2010, 100LL has a TEL content of 1.2 to 2 grams TEL[9] per US gallon (0.3–0.5 g/l) and is the most commonly available and used aviation gasoline. One gram of TEL contains 600 milligrams of lead.
Many Continental and Lycoming light airplane engines designed for 80/87 remain in production. Engines designed for 80/87 can use 100LL with special precautions[vague] to prevent lead buildup and lead fouling of the spark plugs.[citation needed]
Some of the lower-powered (100-to-150-horsepower or 75-to-110 kW) aviation engines that were developed in the late 1990s are designed to run on unleaded fuel, but can run on 100LL if unleaded is not available, an example being the Rotax 912.[10]
So based on this assumption that a gallon of 100LL has approximately 1.2-2 grams of lead per gallon……a typical Cessna 172 burns on average 9 gallons of fuel PER HOUR. As a plane is departing or landing it is traveling approximately 60-80 miles per hour and is over your house for approximately 3 or 4 seconds and has burned less than 2 tablesooons of fuel. Combustion takes place and you have the by product of CO2, water, and heat. Given atmospheric wind conditions there are not harmful amounts of lead “falling” from the sky in the exhaust from a small plane. In simpler terrms its like me dropping acid from a medicine dropper into the ocean. There are no effects.
Again, I will state that I was doused, sprayed, etc, etc, etc with AvGas and it would dry on my skin, and absorb into my skin….the skin is the largest organ in your body. And I was just fine.
BTW, if you are going to compare Sedona airports to other airports, use airports that have similar departure and arrival numbers. You are comparing apples and oranges here. And on a side note, the Santa Monica airport has been along the coast for years, and haven’t heard anything about people getting sick………..
Congressman Waxman disagrees with you Captain Azarro, I guess you failed to read the link I posted above before making your comments about lead. My neighbors boys are being chelated for lead poisoning and have dangerously high levels of lead in their bodies, they are aged four and eight.
Do you care? Do you even know how dangerous lead is? The planes are flying over their roof all day long and it is all recreational flying. Who gets to the pay the medical bills for chelating the lead out? No one told their parents that they would be subjected to this. Most people don’t even know the lead is there or that there is enough of here in Sedona to cause serious harm and that includes you!
There are few general aviation planes in the air, only 223,370 registered in the US, compared to the 330 million people who live here. Yet 50% of the lead in our atmosphere comes from one small user group called general aviation. That means a fractional of a percent contributes 50% of the lead the rest of us have to breath. While many planes can fly on unleaded fuel it is not available at most airports. I don’t care if there is a low level of lead in the fuel, it is still 50% of the total lead and the amount of lead we breath is much higher if you are near an airport.
While the local airport toots its horn claiming it is good for the people who live here, they never admit they are dumping lead and fuel over us. I have three neighbors that I know of who have died of biliary tract cancer. That is even more alarming because one of those people was only 21 years old. It is next it impossible to die of liver cancer at age 21. That can only happen from extreme environmental toxicity, the type evidenced in my blood tests.
Santa Monica, what a great example, they have been fighting to close their airport for years. At least they are near the ocean so they evacuate their toxic air. In Sedona the pollution is trapped in the basins, canyons and washes with no where to go.
Kristin,
Well this is a never ending battle with you. If you think the air is polluted here ….which I ask what pollution? Go to Phoenix on a warm winter day……then we can talk about pollution. At any rate, best of luck to you and yours.
I do not think I know the air is polluted and dangerous. Created by a combination of factors, length of runway, density altitude, large Gulfstream jets and geology. If anyone doubts we have polluted air, especially around the airport and in the flight path you can look at my blood test and then go study jet fuel toxicology as I have had to. I have a lot of links on http://www.closetheairport.com to government websites explaining how dangerous each of these petrochemicals are. Exposure is progressive and accumulative. It is not one exposure that causes cancer, it is repeated exposure for years. Most people do not now it is happening, they just develop a long list of health problems.
Who is really out testing for jet fuel in their blood? This is atrocious! I know plenty of people in Phoenix and none of them have blood full of jet fuel. The atmosphere is not full of unburned jet fuel floating around. We are not measuring the ozone, PM, N02, or sulfur dioxide. Yes those are worse in Phoenix where there are 1.5 million people versus the 11,000 living here.
Flagstaff has better air than we do and more people and a regional airport. You can look up general air quality on homefacts.com
http://www.closetheairport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/SedonaJetFuelinBlood1.jpg
Kristin brings up a very salient point about realtors in Sedona not disclosing everything. Furthermore, as property owners we need to be aware that If ‘smart’ meters are deployed here, that fact will have to be disclosed to potential purchasers. Potential purchasers and current property owners need to know that their homeowner’s or commercial property owners will not cover losses caused by ‘smart’ meters, such as fires.
It’s been an interesting argument but so far no one has addressed the question I asked at the start: “So I suppose the jet fuel chemicals in her blood test are stress related also?”
One person commented that because there was no name and address on the blood test results at the website, the results could be those of a rat injected with kerosene. Could be, except I have seen the actual document with name and address. It obviously never occurred to the doubter that Kristin took personal info off something being posted to the world on a publicly available website.
Capt. A seems to think there cannot be any pollution here because he cannot see it. In so doing he shows his awareness to be limited to his 5 senses. Likewise, Capt. A seems to think avgas lead poisoning is hogwash because of his own personal experience with it. Perhaps as he gets older he will broaden and realize not everyone has the same experience as he does. In other words, some people can smoke and live to be 100; others die prematurely. Some people succumb to illness while others similarly exposed do not. Telling the ill that you are fine so there can be no problem is at best immature.
All the pro-airport people have had fun ridiculing Kristin. Unfortunately none have refuted the evidence.
Filing a lawsuit is a reasonable response to excessive noise and pollution from jet fuel. The lawyers participating on a contingency basis would not be investing their time unless they investigated the facts and found the issue to be worth litigating.
The excessive agitation in the responses by the pilots commenting here indicates to me that Kristin is right about the pollution issues. If she wasn’t, they wouldn’t be wasting their time complaining about a lawsuit that would go nowhere, and they would ignore her.
it’s about time that Sedona take its environment seriously! People should take their heads out of the sand and start to think about JUST HOW DANGEROUS THAT AIRPORT REALLY IS -on multiple account.
After all the research on jet fuel toxicity, to even doubt there is a problem amounts to stupidity. Kristin should be given an award for courage and tenacity in taking on this major issue that affects all our healths. Let’s get those microwave towers into a safer locale too!
Lane:
If as you say; “just how dangerous that airport really is” is true, why did Kristin move there? Was Kristin blinded by the red rocks and never saw the airport? Perhaps Kristin didn’t know that some airplanes use jet fuel to fly.
Your statements are just a crazy as Kristins.
From Wikipedia: “The main petroleum component used in blending avgas is alkylate, which is essentially a mixture of various isooctanes, and some refineries also use some reformate……………..”
AvGas is a component of various ISOOCTANES……yet, in Kristin’s “blood test” the isooctanes are the lowest on the report……..please, explain that.
I’m beginning to think that if people said the sky was red, you would believe them as well.
And Warren what other pollution is there? Electromagnetic? UV radiation? So you don’t use a cell phone or go outside? You people need a hobby. Go collect rocks or something.
Dear Anonymous,
Go read the freaking website http://www.closetheairport.com lead is in av gas, all the chemicals in Kristin’s blood test are jet fuel. Geez. I know it gets confusing for some people with no training in toxicology or medicine to discuss two separate issues but please try and educate yourself before you comment and pretend you know what you are talking about.
All the information about the constituents in the blood test are on Kristin’s website.
Why are people upset about this issue? I can tell you, it’s called wrongful deaths and serious, debilitating, acute illness and permanent long term cancer risk. Go read Kristin’s blog, try imaging being poisoned late at night by an incoming jet losing some fuel over your roof. It’s easy to sit at your computer where you have no jets over your roof and have an opinion because you yourself do not experience it.
Just another of the “fruit cakes” that get attracted to Sedona. Have you never heard of buyer beware. Are you so juvenile that you couldn’t figure out there was an airport there? Grow up and admit your errors and move on!
Wait a second. In a few posts above, Kristin is complaining about lead, but her whole premise is that it’s jet fuel? Which is it? Lead or jet fuel? And if according to her website, her neighbor boys have lead poisoning, wouldn’t she have it too? I’d like to ask if they are on a well or public water? And if you are on a well, do you realize that the creek runs behind your property perhaps? How come no one else in the Back O’Beyond subdivision isn’t complaining and just Ms. Monday?
Second, on her website she writes:
“Fuel dumping is an emergency procedure to grant the safety of the passengers. Modern aircraft design and manufacturing allows more and more aircraft to land at maximum take-off weight. Only long range aircraft like B-747, B-767, B-777, MD-11, A-330, A-340 or A-380 can dump fuel. As an exception, there are some small business jets which use the fuel mass for weight and balance and might dump fuel in case of flight abortion or in an illegal instance are too heavy to get on or off a short runway because they arrive with a tank close to full. Since jets dump jet fuel in Sedona, they must be doing it over other towns in similar situations and operating conditions? Our airport cannot be so unique can it? If it is, then it needs to be closed immediately. Perhaps small airports all over America need to be closed for the health and safety of those who live near them. The economic burden of these small airports falls upon those living near the airport as they struggle under the burden of cancer, heart disease, respiratory distress and other health problems. All jet aircraft use Halon, a deadly, ozone-depleting chemical in their engines”.
First off you contradict yourself so much in this paragraph. It’s not even funny. If a jet aborts its take-off, and has to dump fuel, that means it never got off the ground…………..and it Sedona airport unique….you bet it is, but as Captain Azzaro mentioned above, it is not alone. There are numerous airports in Colorado that have twice the amount of jets flying in and out every day……and in the heat of summer and the cold of winter, and the residents of those towns aren’t complaining, and the jets, aren’t dumping jet fuel on them.
You really need to pick your battles wiseley Ms. Monday. You are fighting a never ending battle. And one final word of advice…….I would suggest you move.
The issue is pollution. When Ms. Monday bought her house is not relevant. Whether she made a wise choice is not relevant. If activities at the airport are causing nearby residents to be exposed to toxins, those activities should stop.
That’s right I have lead poisoning too and so do many other neighbors who have been tested. Our area is on a well and there is no lead in the water.
I suggest we condemn the whole area and give it to the airport then. With this level of jet fuel in our blood more people will die from cancer and have other illnesses. I have two liver cancer cases and one pancreatic cancer case that I know of near me, and many other cancer cases. How many more people, including young people need to get sick and die from cancer around here? Either this is s safe place to live or it isn’t. My bitching is inconvenient because it sheds light on a serious problem no one wants to admit. Unfortunately my bitching will not bring these people back or ease the suffering of their families; I wish it would. The past damage cannot be undone but the future damage can be mitigated now.
That paragraph on jet fuel dumping is a paragraph on jet fuel dumping. Runway length and density altitude determine how much a jet can weigh in order to get off the ground. You are right it could be more clearly written. I have had people claim small jets are not able to dump which is untrue.
Sedona has a short runway, if a jet arrives with too much fuel it can’t get back out of here (off the short runway) they have to lose fuel BEFORE THEY LAND. A Gulfstream at this altitude needs 7,000 feet of runway, they do not belong here.
Comparing Sedona to Aspen is ridiculous. The airport in Aspen is outside of town and has a real runway, I also never see any jets in Aspen when I am there. The flight path is not over Aspen, they don’t want jets flying over their homes and ski resort.
You are wrong people in Back o Beyond are complaining, others have smelled jet fuel there and had high blood pressure from it and missed work because of it. The owners of Angel Valley left Back o Beyond because of the airport. There are other people in the flight path complaining and sick on the opposite end of the mesa as well.
When one is in Sedona proper, it is usually quiet and one does not see many airplanes or jets. I had no idea this airport was going to have that many flights up to 79,000 per year, and up to 150 jets in one day (that was May 2007), I did not know we had jets here, we never had jets before.
It was against the community plan to allow jets or to expand the airport. Our community plan is a farce and means nothing.
I don’t understand why some of you people believe its ok for entire neighborhoods to be subjected to this level of jet fuel in their air space? So I move and then what about all the other homes and families? They will get sick and die, that is what has been happening and no one knew why. The more jet traffic we have the worse it gets.
There were full page ads taken out in the Red Rock News before the runway was enlarged, warning this would happen and no one cared to stop it. A petition was circulated and signed. The person who started the petition and took out the ads was a jet pilot, he paid for the ads himself.
It is obvious the airport supporters do not care about others, they do not care how sick people get or if they die or how much they spend on medical care. How is that none of you find these levels of jet fuel levels in my blood while sitting in front of Cathedral Rock alarming?
Maybe if your 21 year daughter just died an excruciating death from liver cancer you would be upset to see my blood test?
No one gets liver cancer that young unless they were poisoned to death. How about all the people living around the mesa who smell aircraft exhaust and jet fuel now, we have a ton of cancer cases there too. Where does the insatiable appetite of aviation end?
It is not juvenile for everyone to have the right to breath safe air, at a level that sustains life. My blood should be clean living in front of Cathedral Rock. I should never smell jet fuel after an incoming jet flies over my roof and I should never have acute poisoning symptoms. No one in their right mind would expect or know this would happen even if they knew how much traffic there was.
The airport mails out brochures explaining how they are good for the community, they sure don’t mention pollution from jets or lead from AV gas. There is no public disclosure on what is going on here with the exception of what I write.
Kristin,
It certainly is a small world. I know people who have done work for you, and while you don’t live in Back O’ Beyond, you live in Chavez Ranch area. Have you ever stopped to look at an aerial photo of where you live? Do you realize that you have a wash and perhaps even a watershed that runs right down from the Industrial area of Sedona located between Shelby and Sunset? They paint cars, and do a multitude of other things in that area including storage of heavy equipment. Take a look at an aerial photo sometime….you just might be shocked to find that these “chemicals” are coming into your groundwater from your well that is in a watershed and a wash.
Second…….I don’t know when the last time was you were in Aspen…….but you would be hard pressed to NOT find a jet there. Take a look at the google images:
http://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=539&q=aspen+airport&oq=Aspen+Airport&gs_l=img.1.0.0j0i24l9.859.2874.0.4530.13.9.0.4.4.0.125.937.4j5.9.0…0.0…1ac.1.XQ-cQ5XU9BU
All the best. I’m done discussing this.
Dear Captain,
When some of the small business jets fly over my yard and we (I, neighbors, and husband) are standing there, we will smell the jet fuel as it falls upon us and on some occasions it burns our skin. This only happens when aircraft are incoming, not outgoing. We all experience the same symptoms, blood pressure going from low to extremely high where it stays for sometimes three days. My attorney, my husband who is ex-air force and a doctor, a pilot and other neighbors are all witnesses.
People on the other side of the runway in the flight path also smell jet fuel in their yards when some jets are landing and they have the identical symptoms, these are young people with normal/low blood pressure. None of us smell jet fuel when jets are taking off, ever. We have been watching this for three years.
Let’s not forget a Gulfstream owner/pilot is the one who told me to go get tested for jet fuel and told me the jets are dumping here because the runway is too short. Gulfstream jets cost $10-$40 million each and Gulfstream jets can dump jet fuel and all jets that have a takeoff weight that is higher than the landing weight according to FAA regulations must have a fuel jettison system. These arguments that, “small jets can’t dump fuel” is untrue.
Do you have any idea how high the levels of fuel have to be for my blood test to be this high? Some paint fumes running down the wash from 2 miles away is not going to do it. This is from aerosol fuel; even pumping fuel at a jetport would not do this, as someone else claimed “he had no symptoms from fueling jets.” I am being tested against people who have occupational exposures and my levels are in the higher end of the tests. Do you know how much poisoning it takes to give a 20 year old liver cancer?
Our well is tested for all chemicals; a NASA engineer is in charge of our well. I have all the well reports. If you believe that I am drinking 2-methylpentane, 3-methylpentane, iso-octane, toluene, etc. please help me out and call the EPA and report it. You have my blood test on the front page of my website. Amanda is dead, Jordan is dead (they died two weeks apart), Centria Lilly’s husband is dead, two liver cancer cases and one pancreatic cancer. Many others had cancer (all on Cathedral Vista) and many of us have liver pain and liver spasms. My two neighbors have lived next door for 60 days, one is age 32 and an environmental medical doctor and now their livers are hurting! The more jet traffic we have the worse it gets! Additionally we live in a basin here like a fishbowl, when we have a lot of air traffic the pollution just piles up and has nowhere to evacuate to; low wind days, inversions, hot days are all very bad and compound the problem. We do not have a canyon breeze here.
That’s right there are jets at the airport in Aspen. None of my friends 1$2-15 million homes have jets flying above them, when I walk around town I do not hear jets or see jets; their noise abatement procedures must be working there!
Don’t worry yourself about proving the jets are not causing this with crazy arguments about the paint shops in Sedona. The atmosphere would be full of these chemicals all around, not all the way down at my house. I already have jet fuel toxicologists who agree with me and they are also experts on jet fuel dumping as well.
When I talk to old vets around town who worked on airbases they all tell me the jets dump here. I mention I smell jet fuel and they tell me they are dumping, I don’t even have to say it.
Mac McCall told the Red Rock News that “jet fuel is not toxic,” maybe that would be a better argument for the airport lovers? I know all of your think you can come with some great reason to explain why I am wrong. I live with this problem and have for years. You wonder why I don’t give up. Because this jet fuel poisoning keeps happening, it doesn’t go away. If we didn’t have a serious problem here young people would not be dead from liver cancer. Go research liver cancer and think about it. It’s not the water killing people, it’s the AIR!
You hot shot pilots are really showing your true colors. Fly those planes at all costs, is what you are saying. Apparently you have no conscience at all. It is either that you are afraid to believe what is being said because it might cause you a little distress that thousands of people who live in, and near Sedona are being subjected to air and noise pollution that just a few of you are creating. Or your superior attitude has always been a part of your personality and you have never cared about anyone else but yourself.
What you are doing is no better than what Hitler did to the innocence in the gas chamber. The only difference is they were also on the ground and could actually see what they were doing to cause the death of men, women and children. And you don’t have to look at our faces as we are slowly dying from lead poisoning and benzene in our blood.
I will guarantee you that if any of you went to a doctor that does integrative medicine and had a chelation drip designed to flush out any heavy metals that are lodged in your tissues and then collected your urine for the following several hours and had it tested by the labs that do this as part of their normal testing, you would be shocked at the results. We have owned our property since 2000, long before the airport stepped up their number of flights to 25,000 + per year. We never had this kind of sound or air pollution for several years after we purchased. We challenge you to do this lead test and also pay $750 to see if you have benzene in your blood. Both of these will send you to a slow death with many different symptoms.
Kristin and her husband are extremely bright, young people who not so long ago were happily riding their mountain bikes through the hills of Sedona and snow skiing in Colorado. Now, because of your ignorance, are living a far different kind of life than they once did.
Of course, you might say, they are not dead yet, like several of our neighbors. Maybe we should wait until they die, then the whole town can sue you instead of just a few hundred people who are exhibiting symptoms right now.
Kristin and Robert live on a beautiful hill and can’t sell their home because who would want a home that has so many planes and helicopters fly close to their roof line every morning, noon and night. Everyone on both sides of the airport have the same complaints. The sound is deafening and you have taken away the tranquility of the trails and our own back yards that we came to Sedona to enjoy.
You are desecrating the beauty of these hills and canyons and forcing the wildlife to go elsewhere. I haven’t seen a deer in at least six months. We used to see them all the time. You have no respect for the residents of our town which is shown by how low you fly over our homes. You are also damaging the business of the restaurants, B & B’s, hotels and general sight-seeing of a town that depends on tourism.
Some people have told me that they will be spending close to $7,000 this year doing chelation treatments and detox pills to do whatever they can to at least diminish the lead levels in their systems. Once the lead gets into the brain, you may as well check into the hospital or a home to care for you. The urine tests or these people, show that they are way over into the red zone which is very dangerous and can cause high blood pressure, memory loss, cancer and a number of other physical diseases and problems. Oh, I forgot, no sense in mentioning this to you, when flying above it all is what really matters to you.
You are asking everyone near the runway to move, so we will stop telling everyone about what you are doing to us. If that is such an easy task, why don’t you do something even easier and fly your plane to Flagstaff and have the small inconvenience of driving down beautiful Oak Creek Canyon to get to Sedona? Would that be too much to ask? Why don’t you do what it takes to get the airport moved to the land that is already waiting for a larger airport to be built 18 miles South of here, as some of were told? You would have it all then. Or are you just enjoying being who you are so much that you just have to continue doing what you have always done without ever making a change. I actually feel a little sorry for all of you. You will never know what peace or happiness is. Caring for your fellowman actually feels good. You should try it some time.
Marie and John
Please, don’t feel sorry for me. I love what I do. I am very content, peaceful, and quite happy with my life. Flying and aviation is something I am passionate about. I might suggest that you find something that you are passionate about instead of complaining. I care deeply about my fellow man, and I have flown several humanatarian trips in the jet that I fly for childeren, veterans, and people in need of medical treatment. What have you done? You people in this town amaze me. I really don’t know why I’m replying to this post, but I just had to.
And really? 25,000 planes a year? Where do you get your information? That’s on average 68 planes a DAY………..I’ve been up on that ramp for 4 or 5 hours at a time waiting for clients and not one plane will have taken off or landed. I’m really curious where you all get your sources.
I wish you all the best of luck. I hope you can find peace and happiness.
What a paradox. Why isn’t the Civil Discourse Team on this community issue that has led to such animosity toward residents who are suffering and dying in one of the most beautiful places in America (US Today, 2003)? The paradox here is we have those who do not wish to have their lives disturbed by any external event or issue in any way, rather than participate in taking steps to improve an untenable situation for too many of our residents.
Marie and John,
I’m not here to argue. But please don’t equate me flying my small, rented plane to an airport makes me Hitler. Please also don’t talk about the big dollars and the thought that the pilot community doesn’t care about what harm they would cause.
Most small planes cost less than the average 3 series BMW or C-Class MB, which I’m certain if we’re talking about friends with multi-million dollar homes. The plane I fly gets about 28-30 MPG. Better than whatever SUV people are using to get around Aspen and polluting less in the process.The fact that there are such a small number of planes flying should tell you that they don’t have anywhere near the impact of auto traffic.
You asked why not fly to Flagstaff, 18 miles away and drive down? The 45min to an hour in a rental car burning 20MPG or so, vs flying the 8 extra minutes to Sedona would be worth it, if that were my destination.
If you want to look into helping your fellow man, look at Angel Flight, wounded warriors project and even pilots and paws to see what big bad general aviation pilots are all about.
I’m so very sorry for anyone who has to deal with health issues and I am not trying to diminish anyone’s rights to pursue a happy life.
As for noise pollution, if it is a serious concern, I would suggest contacting the FAA again and ask them to re-evaluate the sound data. That being said, if you feel they should pay for everyone’s tests, you should have to pay for these tests. Afterall, it is federal tax dollars being spent; therefore, my dollars spent. The 200db is simply incorrect, and I will discount that and simply understand that the plane in question was very loud. Understood. I would be willing to bet that a loud car or motorcycle is just as noisy at a person’s ear, due to multiple reasons, proximity, qty and duration of noise. You may live in an area where motorcycle and car traffic is quiet, and I’m sure you picked a neighborhood that was isolated from most of these nuisances. I know I did. I’m very sorry that you did not have the forsight to see for yourself what airport traffic was in the area, if that is important to you.
I would also add that my blood pressure rises as soon as I have an irritating discussion with my boss or see something that others me. That does not mean that I am being polluted and is the only cause of the BP spike. My face gets red when I’m angry and no enviornmental changes have occured. My point is, there are other factors involved that have an impact on health. If I hate Spongebob and hear him on TV, I get upset. If he wakes me up at night, my blood pressure will rise. If I have a neighbor that forces me to listen to it every day, a dozen times a day, albeit for 15 seconds at a time, it could even cause me to be depressed due to my frustration. I do not think anyone here is nuts, I do think it is nuts to pose the airport traffic in Sedona is the sole cause of everyone’s health problems.
I can assure you, the small planes that you don’t like are not the cause of your health problems and the lead levels burned off in the fuel IS minute enough, not to cause a health hazard. It is not lead in the exhaust that is the concern with low-leaded fuel.
Again, I’m very sorry for anyone having health issues. I just feel like I have to respond when I’m linked to a discrimintory murderer of millions, on Veteren’s Day, becasue I use a small plane as transportation to visit my parents on a weekend, where driving back and forth would not work.
I do not say at least they are not dead, yet, or think anyone should wait until people die to try to raise their hands and speak up, but I don’t see the difference between this and someone with severe Asthma moving out of a congested city to the countryside to avoid the enviornmental hazards, if they are convinced that is the cause. People have taken it upon themselves for decades to do just that, and pursue a life of happiness. The fact that the house is de-valued now, is no different to if I build a house and a highway goes in next to it, or worse yet, I build a house right next to a highway that used to have little traffic, now has an extra couple lanes and an HOV lane. If I spend $1M and build a mansion on a landfill, I’m betting I wouldn’t be able to sell it for $1M. Is that the landfill’s fault, and should the landfill owners have to buy the house? No. I have that responsibility myself. No government is required to subsidize the values of homes, that is ridiculous. If you belive they should, then go ahead and donate a few hundred grand to your local government, because it’s you that would have to pay for it anyway through either higher taxes, or deal with fewer teachers or municipalities. There is only so much money available from what you and I already pay. If you want the government to spend it on something like that, then I would say that is a bigger problem.
Auntie Kristin:
Why would any plane ever dump its fuel? Jet fuel is very expensive and I don’t know why it would be wasted. Also is there a way for this airport to be run appropriately? What if we wanted to use it to come visit you guys?
-Your nephew, Adam
Adam:
Good question. As a person that has worked at PHX for over 20 years, I can assure you that the only reason a pilot would dump his/her fuel is in an emergency. Otherwise it’s never done.
Dear Sedona Sam and any and all other knowledgeable people:
You see my blood test on the front page of my website, http://www.closetheairport.com. We smell the jet fuel as a jet comes in for landing, then we have acute poisoning symptoms. There should be no strong smell of jet fuel from a low flying private business jet to the best of my knowledge, am I wrong? If this was normal you would think we would smell all jets and get sick from all jets but we do not.
Please explain how it is possible to have that much jet fuel in ones blood after inhaling mere burned exhaust from one business jet coming in for a landing? That makes no sense at all. Is it normal to smell jet fuel from a small descending jet and for it to emit that much fuel either burned or unburned to create that high level of jet fuel on a blood test? That sounds far fetched to me.
Let’s just say you are right and there is no jet fuel dumping at all, (even though multiple people claim they have been told about jet fuel dumping here for years and former air force personnel believe there is fuel dumping here.) For the safety of the community please help me figure out how this much jet fuel is getting into our blood from the jets? My questions are very simple. These are extremely high levels of fuel to have in one’s blood for a home exposure and I have no occupational exposure! I do not believe I should ever smell jet fuel from an incoming jet.
I’d also like to mention that it was not my idea that jets dump fuel, this came from a Gulfstream pilot. Jet fuel is cheap when your Gulfstream jet costs $20-40 million, plus operating costs and salary for your pilots. Only poor people think it is expensive to waste 5k. It is better to waste 5k in fuel and save 45 minutes of driving. Really who thinks $5k is a lot of money? If you do then you can’t afford a jet! People fly in for dinner at L’Auberge and leave the same night, do you know how much it costs them to come and go just for a dinner?
I’d also like to mention I have spent plenty of time at international airports and have been on the tarmac and I never smelled jet fuel nor have I gotten sick after breathing exhaust fumes for hours. Obviously the exhaust from multiple 747’s is a lot more than one 24 passenger jet landing.
With my blood tests being what they are, it is easy to see why my neighbors are dying, some from rare forms of cancer at young ages. The jet fuel toxicologist I consulted with said, “life is not sustainable with that amount of jet fuel in our blood and cancer and potential death would occur if it stayed that way.”
Waiting for some real answers here from engineers, pilots, and anyone else who knows what they are talking about.
As far as lay people trying to dissect my blood pressure. No ones pulse and blood pressure stays normal with that much fuel in their blood. I always have a normal blood pressure and pulse. There is a big difference between being upset and having a small elevation and being poisoned and deathly ill for three days from acute fuel inhalation. I also had liver pains and liver liver after breathing the fuel that I could smell. There are plenty of nights where I have had to leave my home after a jet flew over late a night and I could smell the fuel. If you can smell the jet fuel it is at a level beyond being dangerous.
My husband has low blood pressure and a low pulse and his levels go from from 118/65 to 210/130! and his pulse goes from 63 to 150 while doing nothing after breathing jet fuel in our own home or yard. No one should be subjected to this whether they knew they were living near an airport or not, this it NOT normal. He also does not get sick at international airports.
Are iso-octanes the largest component in fuel? These are al VOC’s they dissipate are varying fast rates and there are 2,000 petroleum chemicals in jet fuel, to think a test showing higher levels of one VOC over another such as iso-octanes means something is stupid.
There were full page ads in the Red Rock News back in 2006 warning that people would be exposed to high levels of jet fuel constituents like benzene if jets were allowed to land here. Those ads were true and the warnings have come to pass, case in point my blood tests and young people getting rare forms of cancer and dying here in a rural area.