SedonaEye.com columnist Eddie Maddock tackles Sedona affordability.
Sedona AZ – Among Sedona’s ongoing controversies and linked with lack of affordable housing, to rise or not to rise remains near the top of the list – if not THE number one hot topic.
While Sedona is special in many ways, a shortage of workforce housing to accommodate local employees is not unique. Frequent articles relating to the subject have appeared in the Arizona Republic, most recently “Phoenix Trades Incentives for Affordable Housing” (2/17/19) that outlines similar concerns as well as proposed remedies. Extending incentives to developers, such as a tax break to those willing to offer a percentage of their new apartment units at a reduced rate is, but one example.
Over the years Sedona has likewise attempted to acknowledge the need for more affordable housing as was the case with Nepenthe and other projects. Development Agreements also included stipulations requiring a certain number of lower cost units to be provided for employees. However, whether or not those contingencies were subsequently enforced remains questionable.
At any rate, fast-forward to today.
Presently under consideration is construction of a multi-unit housing complex to be located within the primarily industrial area between Sunset and Shelby Drives. The connecting road between those two city streets is neither owned by the city, nor is the property wastewater accessible. Sedona’s city code presently restricts building heights – thus construction of a three or even four story edifice also becomes problematic – therefore addressing the purpose of the theme of this report “To Rise or Not to Rise.”
During the recent process relating to a request for rezoning of the 700 acre parcel outside Sedona City Limits, El Rojo Grande, for the purpose of questionable high density development, the Sedona City Council along with Yavapai County Supervisors and the public in general took kindred positions to successfully oppose rezoning of that property for such an intrusive project. And, let us not forget about the somewhat vast acreage the City of Sedona still owns in conjunction with the Wastewater Treatment Plant for which, on more than one occasion, mixed-use and lower cost housing has been under discussion but never seriously pursued.
Yet now, at this time, with Sedona’s intense traffic congestion realistically without any viable solution, no matter how this Sunset and Shelby multi-unit housing proposal is viewed, no amount of spinning can and or will dispute that increased density will intensify traffic gridlock even more.
ADOT blasting of red rock mountain to make way for I-17 road widening.
It remains almost certain defense for a 3 or 4 story complex will be met with justification because of its more low profile location with the extensive setback from SR89 – perhaps a somewhat valid argument. However, it also poses questions: Would these same city council members have voted to approve existing establishments to exceed two or three or four stories such as Wyndham Sedona, Courtyard by Marriott, Sedona Springs Resort, Sedona Real Inn & Suites, and even our own City Hall for that matter? If that had occurred, views of Sedona’s red rock would have been forever obstructed as actually has already been the case even with the Basha’s center and other shopping centers. Only the few remaining who lived in Sedona back then would be able to attest to that. And, really, should it be ignored, if approved, this, with valid certainty, will set a precedent for future construction?
Wasn’t a primary reason, in fact, for Sedona to incorporate and become a city to avoid the increasingly dense development presently in progress?
Where will all the remaining red rocks go? To parking lots and highways and tourists going and gone.
Have demographics and attitudes of Sedona residents changed so drastically with the times – as is being evidenced by variances and development standards for the short supply of remaining privately owned property available?
Will Sedona, reputed as such a very special place, continue to be compromised and eroded to the status of “just another tourist trap?”
Judging from Sedona’s sluggish voting participation and subsequent results as evidenced by the outcome of the last Sedona City Election surely that must be the case.
Therefore – onward and upward – literally!
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Checking out Wyndham Sedona site there’s a photo indicating the complex is two stories. Looking at another picture and envisioning if that had been three or four stories the entire scenic view of Sedona in the background would have been obliterated. If this city continues to build or in Eddie’s words UPwards we’re (deleted by editor). We get the positive online reviews BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE RED ROCKS & VISTAS bc every single one says something negative about the city itself.
Whats about higher density & buildings? Saw nothing on agenda. Rumor or not?
Builder wants to know.
No, high density is good, they will all ride bicycles and sing kumbaya. It will be like Paris and New York City, with Subways.
NOT
@Norm Sedona out of curiosity I checked out that Wyndham website & other resorts mentioned above article. It appears they are two-story but it’s very clear that what this city council is presently considering will be 2x higher as anything Sedona presently has. I’ve also seen that monster in the VOC (next to former Outlet) and it looms almost at curb’s edge, it certainly puts perspective into what’s being considered here. Regardless of location BAD IDEA (IMO).
Let’s guarantee the first developer who tries to put more than one or 2 storys up will create a firestorm of repercussions. People I’ve been in touch with said there’s no way its true because the code says no. Count that they will wake up if you dare and try it in Sedona. You think VOC Big Park was angry or El Rojo Grand wait and see what happens if you try it here. That airport is dangerous enough and you want to put hazards in the way of it? I remember fires that polluted our air so badly we left town a few years back. Wise up.
Seems IRS manipulators found us.
another day another deception called day in Sedona city hall
“. . . because the code says no.” Have you heard of amendments to those codes? In fact, amendments to City Codes have ruled for a long, long time. Just look around you if you don’t believe it. City Codes have become a joke but only those reaping in big $$$$ are laughing. Once residents wake up (if they ever do) it will be too late. Time is ticking and big business and development are definitely in the drivers’ seats in Sedona.
Hi Sedona, Staying in Scottsdale for next years get together at Camelback. Sedona is messy from bad weather and uncomfortably cold while Phoenix area weather is perfect in winter. Adore Enchantment but the weather extremes and changes are not fun. Happy snow. TMV
Traffic so bad in Sedona we’re pleased to have Clark’s out here now. All new and modern. The few things we must get from Cottonwood via Beaver Head Flats Road not difficult. Fortunately we chose unincorporated Village to build. No big city government or politics. (County is bad enough) None of the gridlock like 179 and West Sedona – no thanks! NO CITY TAXES either!
(that includes gas) it’s so good of you to provide housing for VOC service employees. They’ll cherish having that Sedona address (except we do too except for a different zip code). LMAO big city idiot snobs.
Is the brilliant planning for both Sedona Film & Mountain Bike Festivals to be on the same weekend a result of the multi-million dollar contract with the Regional Chamber of Commerce? Must be – how could any other private membership club be so stupid!!!
And you question the logic or feasibility of a three or four apartment building? With this group of nuts? More traffic is of no apparent concern to them as they continue to spend millions of more $$$$ on traffic studies for a solution??
OMG – planning two major events on one weekend? C of C or Parks & Reck – what a pair to draw to. Then compound the lunacy by adding city staff and city council to the mix! Maybe a four story nut house would be more appropriate.
There are building height restrictions. What exemptions? City would have to vote on it like the county. That’s what my understanding is. Who would chance building in Sedona if the height restrictions weren’t guaranteed? I know real estate agents say it. Whose not saying it?
Check out City Land Development Code:
Article 9
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS
4. Notwithstanding the provisions of this subsection 903.01(C), the Director may approve wall heights and/or widths that exceed the limits established in subsection 903.01(C)(2) of this section based on the following findings:
a. A portion of the wall is not visible from adjoining properties or public and private rights-of-way;
b. The base of the wall is screened by existing trees and shrub masses;
c. The wall that exceeds the maximum height or width parameters is designed as an integral architectural element of the building or structure, is painted a darker color, or is constructed of natural materials such as native stone or natural wood that provides a change in materials, color and texture;
Translated: “Alternate Standards” = open door for whatever . . . .
Been there done that.
What happened to ALL the affordable housing units that lodging was supposed to put in? Hotels got greedy and changed them into paying rooms.
It not up to the City to pay for housing. Hotels should build their own dorms like the grand canyon telluride and other places.
Well enjoy your little slice of life, IT’S GOING AWAY QUICKLY MY FRIEND!!!!!
3 story hotels, the strip mall filling up with tenants and I heard that there are 4 more commercial projects planned along both sides of 179 leading up to Big Park. Pretty soon you’re going to have nothing but traffic in just a year or so. You may have no CITY TAX but the hotels will be big bucks to the Yavapai County because they’re starting a Lodging Tax just like the city did. That’s more of an incentive for them to allow more AND BIGGER hotels. You may be LYAO about the big city idiot snobs but it sounds more like you’re the one who’s the snob.
You’re saying that Sedona is a bunch of snobs then why don’t you start calling your VOC by its real name BIG PARK!!! You don’t want to be associated with Sedona then call yourself by your real name.
Joan says: What happened to ALL the affordable housing units that lodging was supposed to put in?
Joan, every single mandated unit was built and all are being used by employees Thanks for asking.
Joan says, Hotels got greedy and changed them into paying rooms. ? And you know this how ? Please show us your proof!
Joan says,Hotels should build their own “Dorms” like the grand canyon telluride and other places. So Joan why just hotels? Why Not retailers, why not the city of Sedona for their employees why not Bashes or Safeway?
And Joan why are Hotels “Greedy” most are owned by locals just making a living and were build long before you arrived.
Joan just where would you like this Hotel “Dorm ” it would need to be large we have thousands of employees…..
Why pick on the hotels… Remember Sedona was a tourist town before you arrived.
Mayor Sandy said she wants to be more flexible about building height during the Sunset Live/Work CFA Council discussion. She stated any number of stories are okay with her. Ergo, worse traffic congestion be damned.
John Currivan wanted the whole city to be asked about the three and four-stories. John Martinez said three stories would be okay, not four. Jablow, however, said he would support seeing more and moving further.
Staff–Karen?–rules administratively to approve three and four-story buildings, not P & Z or the Council. Higher heights require approval by the City Council.
What?? The City seems to think the owners of Shelby Drive, a private road, will give their portion to the City of Sedona. And what’s going to happen when the City extends sewer access down Shelby Drive? Who will pay? Sewer users beware.
Good point, Joan. Of course it isn’t the city’s responsibility to provide workforce housing. It also isn’t the city’s responsibility to fund a “regional” chamber of commerce with literally millions of $$$$. Likewise other municipalities, including resort towns, do NOT have such absurd policies. Sedona has become better known as a laughing stock instead of being famous for scenic red rocks. Which, incidentally, little by little are becoming less visible in favor of development.
@@Joan Says it all
“Sedona has become better known as a laughing stock instead of being famous for scenic red rocks. Which, incidentally, little by little are becoming less visible in favor of development.”
The city is known to be stupido. IMO The revolving doors of council and city employees has enabled special interests (regional chamber & regional lodging) to get a “kickback” of 55% of city bed tax.
We all know that the only ones being enriched is regional chamber, overpaid city staffers and wealthy regional lodging. The in-city combined taxes for lodging is 13.90% while those outside the city limits only charge 6.9%. Tourists save money by staying outside the city limit increasing traffic and driving them to the Village. This marketing campaign makes the Village a target for new hotels saving hotel owners, who don’t live here, hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.
Follow the numbers and it is proven that the 55% to chamber of in-city-bed-taxes is driving tourists to STAY & PLAY outside city limits.
If you look deeper you will also see that the RESIDENTS are shopping OUTSIDE the city due to traffic,high taxes and quality of products. Merchants will confirm this. The City recent report on tax dollars does just that. Proves that locals are leaving the in-city to spend their money OUTSIDE city limits.
Where is City’s a high paid team of city employees and a highly educated city council? To busy asleep at the wheel, snoozing. Remember that 90% of all sedona city employees DON’T live here. Most of them are more concerned with climbing the ladder and getting their $$$,$$$.
No accountability, bash and dash…….. .
But don ‘t forget about the big stink when the city council approved Administrative Waiver allowing for the Director of Community Development (then Tom Schafer) to approve variances to the building code.
Public opposition was huge!
Then they did it anyway – oh yeah – based on a one year “sunset clause” to study it again. (apparently never happened) Objection from Sedona residents was it would open the door for staff abuse!!! As it turns out the public was correct but abuse is also in the hands of the City Council.
https://sedonaeye.com/eddie-maddock-further-fodder-for-fueling-the-firestorm/
Wm. D. says: “Sedona has become better known as a laughing stock instead of being famous for scenic red rocks.
Seems USA today does not agree
Sedona
#2 in Best Places to Visit in Arizona U.S. News
This central Arizona city is a paradise for outdoor enthusiasts. Regularly described as one of the most beautiful places in America, Sedona not only dazzles with its famous red rocks and hiking trails (found in Red Rock State Park), but also with its energy vortexes. These unique rock formations are said to emit energy from the earth, and it’s an experience you have to feel for yourself to believe.
I bet you live in one of those nice houses in uptown OR own several of those 1000 Air BnB’s in town that kicked out me and my friends who work in the shops in Uptown. You people are so closed minded and only think of yourselves.
@steve segner The ENTIRE STORY is not what you said about Sedona. It is the following:
travel.usnews.com › Travel Guides › USA
Sedona Travel Tips Best Months to Visit The best time to visit Sedona is from March to May when the temperatures are warm – but not scorching – and the area is in full bloom.
@segner It’s #2 in ARIZONA. But I’m laughing because if you read the article, Sedona is #1 in CHEAP getaways. Obviously somebody used old data and did their research from paid advertisers? Steve, CHEAP is what keeps this tourist town running.
You might also like USA Travel News Sedona Travel Guide
USA #1 in Best Cheap Romantic Getaways
Tucson
#3 in Best Places to Visit in Arizona
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Santa Fe
#12 in Best Fall Getaways
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Tulum
#2 in Best Places to Visit in Mexico
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Sedona
#24 in Best Places to Visit in the USA
Outdoorsy types will love vacationing in Sedona. Home to towering red rock formations, ancient cliff dwellings and vortexes, Sedona features a multitude of postcard-worthy landmarks accessible by various hiking trails. After an active day outside, travelers can retreat to one of the city’s award-winning spas.
You left off the 4. It’s listed as #24 not 2. Notice it didn’t say a word about shopping. It didn’t say anything about high rises. It talks about OUTDOORSY TYPES. Those that come in with a $20 bill and a change of underwear and leave wearing the same underwear and the $20 bill.
Sedona used to be upscale, now it is just a traffic choked tourist trap. The charm of uptown is gone. 30 years ago there was on stoplight. Now it can take you an hour to get through town. Multi story buildings will be another nail in the coffin.
Since Sedona’s getting free publicity (USA Today is only one example) then why the millions of dollars to a regional chamber of commerce? They are neither a qualified ad agency nor professionals at anything in particular. Well, maybe con-artists might fit the bill. Isn’t there something about art in Sedona’s vision statement? And forget any responses giving the amateurs running the c of c any credit – ain’t gonna pass the smell test!!!!
Sedona had been discovered even before it incorporated, which has been the downfall as once again pointed out by the fallacy of strict building codes!!! Label anything workforce housing and be offered alternate standards and administrative waivers. Same old story – new cast of characters (city council and with maybe one or two exceptions city staff).
So tourists contribute more to the tax base? Big deal and why shouldn’t they? They outnumber residents!! DUH!!!
Oh boy the crap is piling high at your slanted…one-side BLOG (as a matter of fact your ONE poster) is very very busy piling it on LOL…
You can disregard my posts…(deleted by editor)
Geeze it’s a no brainer folks. The city of sedona is driving locals OUT by their horrible performance and RAISING the Sales tax. They need more money to fix the PROBLEM they created by gifting away taxpayers money to the regional lodging and regional chamber. Subsidizing one industry has created a disaster town killing the quality for all.
The locals say (deleted by editor),shop and dine outside the city. It’s bad enough that we all have to pay combined sales tax of 9.850% on all our deliveries. Why would we add to the traffic? We LEAVE town to stop & dine. Listen to the city’s plan they want you to stay HOME = don’t leave your focus area. (sunset FG) 101 in economics DON”T raise taxes.
CC has done a fabulous job of dumbing down Sedona.
Gregg say’s getting free publicity (USA Today is only one example)then why the millions of dollars to a regional chamber of commerce?
Free P.R is number one in our the marketing plan.
Gregg nothing is free, the chamber has full time staff that writes P.R story ideas and sends them to editors, of local, national and international publications.
Gregg, NO national story get printed with out the chambers help, fact checking and hours of staff time.
Gregg, it take people to meet with the writers, drive them around, answer questions and make travel and dining reservations arraignments and hotels usually put them up for free.
Gregg the chamber sponsors group trips for writers and travel professionals each year.
Stories just don’t happen it take people with local knowledge, Good luck getting a national Advertising company to do that for less the 200.00 per hr. for each staff person.
Gregg the cost of marketing is paid 100% by the bed tax and it is paid by visitors, I get it you don’t want tourist to come to ” your” tourist town, but they drive our economy and help employ over 10,000 people and it cost you nothing.
Gregg no one said Sedona would” Not grow” when you move here. Gregg stop trying to force YOUR Sedona on the business owners and workers of Sedona.
if you care, get a referendum going
steve, ” stop trying to force YOUR Sedona ” on residents. You’re winning, about 10% of the resident population has left town. I take it you and the chamber will be happy when “business owners and workers of Sedona” are the only residents. Retired people pay school tax and don’t bring children. They pay more in services than they get. You are driving them out. Not too bright. No one ever accused you of bring very bright. Greedy, not bright.
@steve Segner or should that be Chamber/Lodging Mouthpiece? There are many flaws in your latest rant, so let’s just cut to the case.
Your regional Chamber of Commerce is NOT a department of city government. It is a member driven private organization. Therefore, your mission is to serve YOUR own paying members, said membership dues should finance whatever it is to attain your goals. Apparently none of you bother to check out other areas and NONE of them fund a Chamber of Commerce. Try Park City Utah for starters.
Your single most noted accomplishment is obviously to serve as a high profile Sedona artist. Translated (again) CON ARTIST (that is) of course just my opinion.
Sedona could function very nicely if the C of C were to close their doors forever or move out to the VOC where many of your non-city tax collecting members are located. Word-of-mouth has long been recognized as the best and most effective form of advertising and not a two bit con-operating outfit like Sedona presently is allowing to call the shots.
@joan
Sorry Joan it isn’t the C of C that’s driving locals out… It’s the Air B n B’s that doing it…. There no reasonable long term renting that available to family’s and others that have been here for a long time….Bye bye renters(locals) there no place for you to go..
The ONLY people poor mouthing airBs are Sedona hotel and motel owners. It BENEFITS everybody BUT THEM. Don’t be fooled by their lies that homeowners who rent rooms no longer rent long term. IN FACT, long term rentals have INCREASED in the city. FACT.
If competitive bids had been requested for Sedona’s marketing contract to begin with, this disgusting and sickening controversy with the “regional” chamber of commerce probably would have been avoided. Someone mentioned Park City, UT also a tourist location. They wisely promote via the Utah State Bureau of Tourism. No muss no fuss. Not so fast ….. maybe not! Quite possibly they just might need the services of Sedona’s chamber/lodging council mouthpiece and we will happily relinquish his services to move on out and up!! (Ski Resort)
Where do you come in these lies???
You say FACT??? Show me those FACTS!!
Tell those FACTS to the hundreds of millennials who USED to live in Sedona AND Cottonwood, they’ve been evicted.
Tell those FACTS to the hundreds of seniors who have had to move to another state.
Unfortunately those being enriched with a no bid contract with the regional chamber and city of Sedona while the regional lodging regional chamber members who get (deleted by editor) funding love to spread fake news.
Facts are that short term stays are down. There is more long term rentals for rent today.
The over marketing of Sedona is driving tourists outside the city limits to stay, save and avoid traffic. While certain areas just held hostage by traffic on weekends and holidays. They can’t get in or out. Traffic jam. The city proposal of sedona in motion will not address these issues. They are causing much chaos fast and furious to confuse the public.
Vacation rentals inside the limits pay into the city bed taxes. Some Hotels owners have purchased employee housing and they have changed them into more rooms. Yes it is the same loud mouths that claim the city needs to provide affordable housing. They are taking affordable housing for personal gain.
@Tina Lee There is over 40 long-term rentals on Zillow alone, monthly rent as low as $700 a month.
They rationalize their behavior to justify creating the problem. Don’t believe me? Google it. Go to maps and you’ll find neighbor rental homes are being bought up by hotels “Connie’s Place Sedona Inn – One Bedroom”
Connie’s Place is the sister Inn to El Portal Sedona Hotel”. Calling it an inn doesn’t make it so. It the employee housing converted into rooms to add to the profits of the IMO loudmouth.
Residents, property owners and small businesses are subsidizing a one-sided industry that is controlling city hall $$$ to be enriched. Disenfranchising the residents, small businesses, and property owners. If the hotels would have lived up to building their own employee housing then we would not have the issues facing our community today. The lodging industry should have worked on this like other tourists places do. That is an easy search also.
The lodging industry is getting wealthier off the backs of residents. You are paying for a membership third party private club killing the quality of Sedona which is driving tourists, residents, employees to go elsewhere. In fact, they can save a bundle by stepping outside the city limits.
The over marketing of Sedona along with the increased sales tax and increase bed taxes are increasing traffic and driving sales outside the city limits. Locals drive outside to shop and dine where they can avoid hour long delays at the y.
Over 40 long term rentals are listed on zillow alone. @Tina Lee don’t forget that the high property taxes here drive up the cost of rent. We all pay into the cost of fire district and school district. When you vote to allow the school district to continue taxing property to continue more funding while they have a 42 million bond debt, declining student population and closing of big park you only reward bad performance and RAISE the cost of YOUR rent!
Property tax rates are higher in Sedona than Newport Beach!
There are several homes and/or guest houses in subdivisions that serve as long term rentals and there’s no way we would report them to the city. Why would we snitch and cause them to pay taxes as long as this city is so frivolous with money by giving it to the lousy chamber of corruption to fritter away needlessly?
Sedona doesn’t have property taxes duh. You sure you live here.. please don’t comment on things you have idea about … Thnk you
@Jim Poole
Yea ok Jim
700 a month for a studio or a bedroom for rent.. I’m talking about affordable rents for family’s…. (deleted by editor)
Sedona Fire District
Library District
Flood Control District
Sedona Oak Creek School District
All the above showing up on something called a Property tax Notice, where they threaten to take your home if you don’t pay.
Then you have the City of Sedona Sales tax on most things you buy, your utilities and franchise fees on your utilities. Dog Licenses, Garage sale permits, building permits. Did they decide the permit fee if you want a chicken coup? (only 4 chickens) they don’t want it to be cost effective.
Yep, no tax at all in Sedona. You’re the duh @jim Poole.
This is directed to @jim Poole.
R U nuts? Residents of Sedona whether within City Limits or outside (VOC/Oak Creek Canyon) most assuredly DO pay property taxes!!
Generally we don’t have time to read comments so lengthy as the one to which you made reference. However because you stated we do not have a property tax made an exception and we plowed trough the lengthy, repetitive dialogue until we discovered the reference about our taxes. Grant you the writer (Jim Poole) didn’t specify property taxes as being state, federal, or municipal it nevertheless is correct.
For the record this is from our own property tax bill, received annually from the county where our property is located:
Listed under the heading “Jurisdiction” (amounts omitted because it’s NOYB)
COCONINO COUNTY
ST SCHL EQUALIZATION
SD#9 SEDONA OAK CREEK
_S SD#9 SEDONA OAK CREEK
SD#9 MINIMUM SCHOOL TAX
_S SD#9 MINIMUM SCHOOL TAX
COMMUNITY COLLEGE
FD SEDONA
FD ASSISTANCE FUND
LIBRARY DISTRICT
FLOOD CONTROL. DIST
PUB HEALTH SERVICE
JTED-VALLEY ACAD
SD#9 BUDGET OVERRIDES
COMMUNITY COLLEGE
SD#9 CLASS B BONDS
Therefore and in the event this incorporated Sedona decides they want to gouge us further for whatever services they offer(?) it must go to a vote of the people for approval. Because we really have NO services from the city (utilities, garbage collection, etc.) there would be no justified reason for their further attempt to get us to cough up more do, re, me for them to give to the “regional” chamber of commerce. They just socked us another half percent sales tax to pay for road improvements which when we had the county it was included in our PROPERTY TAXES. Speaking of commenting on things you have (no) idea about????
We all pay property taxes. Another one of your fake news games. I live here but you probably don’t. My property tax bill pays for fire district, school district, library, flood. Grow up.
@Jim P
Ioh my all the rantings…. All those aren’t Sedona City tax! Plus my taxes for the above are under 2k a year… That’s pretty damn good. You don’t want to pay any kind of tax!? Go live off the grid
So funny the game players are.
What is it folks? Regional lodging – regional Chamber claim they pay the best that we owe them with a subsidies and 55% of in-city bed tax. Then they post that $700 a month in rent is to much for a family. Looks like they are loafers. (Deleted by Editor)
Crackpots imo Looks like, sounds like they want everything free.
Scam on sedona IMO
Sedona does not have a city property tax because 77% of city tax dollars come from visitors. City just up dated numbers. FYI
@still laughing
You must be a game player… (deleted by editor)
You wanna give the outside world a real laugh!!?? Tell them what you house is worth and then state how LITTLE all those things actually add up to.. Let the outside world see what you’ve been complaining about! That will be the real laugh.
Then if you want to get them in a state of laughing hysteria…..make sure you tell them that your AZ taxes are keep artificially low because the money AZ gets from the Federal Gov far far exceeds anything that we contribute…
Let them really see how petty and delusional you actually are…. you’ll have the belly rolling on the floor with laughter…