Article submitted by City of Sedona AZ
Sedona AZ (January 19, 2016) – The city of Sedona invites residents to two public meetings in February to give input on a potential city-wide residential trash and recycling program. The meetings are scheduled for:
- Monday, February 1 at 4:30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers at Sedona City Hall, 102 Roadrunner Drive
- Tuesday, February 2 at 8:30 a.m. in the Multi-Purpose Room at Sedona Fire District Station 1, 2860 Southwest Drive.
Currently Sedona residents choose between three providers for trash and recycling services and the city is looking into the option of a city-wide program in which one hauler would be chosen to provide both trash and recycling services to all households.
City staff are currently in the public input phase of this issue, which will help evaluate the potential for changing from the current system to a city-wide residential trash and recycling program.
For more information or to receive a fact sheet about the potential program, contact Lauren Browne at 928-203-5068 or email lbrowne@SedonaAZ.gov.
Sedona City Hall is open for business Monday through Thursday from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. and closed on Fridays. The Municipal Court and Wastewater system maintenance remain on a Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. schedule.
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If you are one of the over 400 signatures on the petition objecting to city take-over of your garbage removal, don’t believe for one second that it will make a difference. Many if not all of the people who signed received from Sedona Mayor Sandy Moriorty a declaration defending the proposal which included the following version of “myths” vs. “facts:”
Common Myths of City-wide Programs
Myth: Small local haulers will never win the contract
Fact: A City-wide program would be contracted through a competitive selection process providing any hauler, including small local haulers, an opportunity to be awarded the City-wide program contract. The City would seek to provide the best value to residents. Selection criteria often include cost as well as experience, references, and proposed approach. The City may promote local experience as a criterion resulting in small local haulers having an advantage to winning the contract.
Myth: City-wide program creates a monopoly and increases costs
Fact: The most effective method of keeping rates low is to periodically re-bid services through an open and competitive process. If the City would contract for services, the City would re-bid the services on a periodic basis (e.g. every five years), allowing interested haulers to bid as well as ensure that residents continue to receive the lowest rates available.
Myth: City-wide program will result in lower service
Fact: As part of the City-wide program, the City could provide service enhancements (e.g. curbside recycling service, large item service), in a cost effective manner, due to the economies of scale. A City-wide program would be managed by City staff and elected officials. The City will detail the responsibilities of the haulers and performance standards in the contract. In addition, the City will require performance assurances to ensure residents receive a high level of service.
Myth: City-wide program will result in loss of jobs and reduce contributions to the community
Fact: The City-wide program could provide additional services (e.g. curbside recycling service, large item service). Therefore, the hauler awarded the contract would likely employ the same or more employees. The City would seek to contract with a hauler that acknowledges the importance of contributing to the community.
There isn’t one shred of proof regarding any of the above or the myriad of other reasons allegedly which would benefit residents if they agree to this (or not). Lower rates? How would they know? As for tearing up the roads, many other arguments were posted on the comment portion of the petition. To cite three garbage companies as the reason for traffic jams and ruing our roads is just plain stupid over and above of being NOT TRUE. You know it. They know it.
However, the standard method of operation to slam-dunk unpopular, unwanted procedures on the residents of Sedona is to provide these so-called “outreach” public meetings. Guess what, if you don’t show up “they” will make their decisions based on attendance – which you can be assured will be the group of people that have been working behind the scenes to destroy free enterprise, control another segment of our lives, and tell us what we are allowed to do.
Inconvenient as it is to go to one or both of these meetings, if there isn’t a good show of opposition the deal will be sealed – period – end of report.
In addition to attending the meetings, e-mail the city manager’s office and council members: JClifton@sedonaaz.gov; KDaines@sedonaaz.gov; SMoriarty@sedonaaz.gov; MDinunzio@sedonaaz.gov; JMartinez@sedonaaz.gov; JThompson@sedonaaz.gov, SJablow@sedonaaz.gov; JWilliamson@ci.sedona.AZ.us;
This is confusing. I thought this was a city of Sedona issue and yet one of the meetings is being held at Sedona Fire District Station 1? Why is that, especially since a few people outside Sedona city limits signed an online petition objecting to Sedona contracting for garbage collection with one company. That for sure is bound to increase costs to those of us in the VOC and other locations, and yet our signatures opposing or at least being involved don’t count? And now you have the audacity to hold a city issue meeting in a Fire District building, located within city limits but same as VOC not officially part of Sedona government. Why are the property taxes I pay for a fire district being used to conduct Sedona city business? Is the city paying rent for the use of the fire station? Some answers, please.
OK Kim I think your last few sentences say something. Rest is garbage.
I want to know why commercial doesn’t have to be contracted by city and ALL RESIDENTS do. Let me say this again for you stupid lazy people out there in lala land (wake up Beam Me Uppers), EVEN IF YOU DON’T LIVE HERE ON YOUR PROPERTY EVERY WEEK YOU WILL PAY.
YOU ARE GONNA PAY. Got it yet? NOW YOU MIGHT PAY AS YOU WANT BUT IF CITY TAKES OVER ———– EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE CHARGED THIS FEE WEEKLY.
Got it yet stupid morons? SIGN THE DAMN PEITION OR GET YOUR LAZY ASSES TO CITY HALL. COMMERCIAL CAN BE CONTRACTED BUT NOT RESIDENTS ISN’T EVEN A GOOD IDEA. LET THE CHAMBER OFFER A CONTRACT FOR ITS COMMERCIAL ENTITIES.
Taken from comment made on 1/03/16 under “2015 in Review with Eddie Maddock as quoted by Karen Daines, Sedona Assistant City Manager:
“As for commercial, it is true that commercial trash collection would not be subject to any city contract(s). This isn’t to be discriminatory, this is because Arizona State Statute currently prohibits cities and towns from regulating the commercial market in the same way they can residential. Hope this helps, Karen “
Translated: Commercial is off the hook on this latest residential rip-off.
Contracted garbage hauler for the city is a great idea…
3or 4 garbage truck haulers going down the block on the same street is Definetly reduntant. It’s also a good idea for bulk pickup so the crap don’t wind up in the woods or side off the highway..
You pay either way
Stop your crying and set aside your hate..
Below is a response from City worker Lauren Brown. I wanted to know exactly how much money was already wasted on this misguided monopolization effort, and how much would be wasted in the future.
Lauren Browne
Today at 12:39 PM
Message body
Hi Warren,
The total for all phases is about $53,000 but we set it up to have a menu of service options so we could pick and choose what we needed vs. what we’ll do ourselves. And we won’t move on to any other work if the Council decides after the public input period that they don’t wish to further pursue this effort. Phase I, the public input phase, which is what we’re in now, is about $20,000 and again, should Council decide not to move forward, the contract for services with Burns and McDonnell will end there.
So, if this doesn’t move forward in March, we will have spent $20,000.
Let me know if you have any questions,
Lauren
Wait, STOP THE PRESSES. The city wants me to pay less then what I’m already paying while the possibility exists that I may get to keep my favorite local hauler. As an added benefit I would be able to have more service with curb site recycling?
Are you people all nuts, WHAT’S THE DOWN SIDE?!?!
Listen. I’ve held my peace on this but no more.
@west Sedona resident STFUP!$%^&* “…it’s a good idea for bulk pickup so the crap don’t wind up in the woods or side off the highway…” (He/She can’t spell but who cares? He/She has no logic but who cares?)
It’s people like you making decisions for me that pisses me off. No, it’s not a good idea. I live here and NEVER see garbage trucks except when mine is picked up. THAT MEANS JERK FACE THAT THERE’S NO MILLION DRIVER SHUT DOWN BY GARBAGE HAULERS IN THE CITY. THERE’S NO SO CALLED ROAD KILL BY GARBAGE TRUCKS. THERE’S NO MADDENING CROWD OF GARBAGE HAULERS.
I want to know what the Mayor and her business has in this? She owns a recycler. She’s in the garbage business. (So many one liners and so little time…). How are the Councilors benefitting from this financially to further this insane WASTE of an idea? Why did Angela LeFevre step down?
@Robert WHO WILL PAY FOR THE $53k (an under estimate) is an important question. You, me, them. Divide that by the residents and see our initial tax bill base. I’m not paying it. I will sue first. I will sue the city for breach of contract the first time my garbage hauler misses my trash pick up. (Been done & won.) When I see trash on the roadway, I will sue the city for breach of contract. (Been done & won – see NYC). I’ll make it worth losing my right to choose by making the city miserable with a class action suit; I’ve got a gold mine of 400 names on a petition to ask if they want to join. I pay under $30 a month for BOTH RECYCLING & TRASH once a week. I cancel that service when I go away for seven months out of the year. Now WHAT are you saying? Don’t jump to false conclusions until you find out facts. I hold two Masters degrees, one in Business. What do you hold except hot air?
@tom
Hey your blood pressure meds before you explode
You sound like a complete A hole
@tom what petition? our office wants to know
@tom
Btw you write like a three year old…
Appreciate that you tell it like it is. Of course the addled West sedona resident that remains in the shadow quite likely is one and the same BFF of her Gal Sandy that now sits on the city council and together they will be voting for approval of this pet project.
We’ll see how it unfolds and hopefully it will be another issue like owning W89A that will shake up Sedona residents enough to take action – if not legal then the expense to the city of another special Initiative/Referendum ballot issue to overturn a decision that so far will NOT be popular.
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/sedona-citizens-civil?source=c.em&r_by=14213130
Donna JV,
Your hatred for the city is so well known that I really don’t believe anything you post no matter how many different names you post under. I
Hay, is it true that you have your cake place and house up for sale?????
Wow I’m beginning to feel the love on this site sort of like the old days!
I’m betting that there are only 3 people at most on this site posting under many different names. I tell you what, if you don’t like saving money and having better service, MOVE! I for one like both.
I got my call from the City’s phone surveyors today. After the person said she had questions that would take 5 minutes, I told her that we were going to get it over with in less than that and — click — she hung up on me. I wonder how our exchange will be categorized.
In the event City Council ignores the petition signatures, for whatever reason, those same people that signed would surely be candidates to participate in the Initiative/Referendum procedure should these foolish folks continue their game playing with our civil rights to choose.
Further, from a City Council that spends so much time convening about “economic development,” how do they justify stomping on three legitimate garbage hauling companies in order to feasibility take two of them down?
Quoting a frequently used phrase from Judge Judy: “It doesn’t pass the sniff test.”
The Sedona City Council and the City Staff are ridiculous. In our small community it is hard to make a living. All they care about is money. They are destroying private enterprise and will hurt many families by doing this @Robert O. It is more than saving a few bucks.
Oak Creek Knolls HOA has negotiated a rate of $12 per month for those residents that want trash service.
If you don’t want trash pickup, you pay nothing in our HOA.
I know of no service that government provides that is cheaper than the private sector.
NO on City involved trash service.
The buzz is this is already a done-deal – that at least four on the council will vote to approve without having even heard staff presentation. So @Warren whatever amount has been set aside is only a smoke screen for another wasted exercise to keep staff busy. The only two “maybes” on the council, again so goes the message on the wind, are Scott Jablow and Mark DiNunzio – the rest of them – forget it. “They” know what’s best for Sedona and to hell with part time residents who escape elsewhere during hot summer months, single residents on fixed income that maybe have enough garbage to put out every other week or so, and Sedona residents in general because we do not have a democracy here. It’s a dictatorship – PERIOD! We will ALL be charged for monthly service, like it, use it, or not!
Little wonder people are moving out if they’re lucky enough to sell their homes even at a discount. And those moving in have no idea what a crumb-dumb burg Sedona’s become, thanks to ill advised elected official that quickly forget why they were elected. And why was that? you ask. Well golly gee, as I recall it was to represent the “will of the people” and NOT what “they” think is best. But then most deals the last few years have been made long before public meetings. Anyone out there recall the “set-up” with the Chamber of Commerce a couple of years ago? And this city council is concerned about a few too many garbage trucks and maybe the possibility someone might inadvertently toss a plastic fork into the trash instead of the recycle barrel.
Be prepared for Initiative/Referendum ballot issues which will most likely require a good attorney to get it done right. Sadly it looks like it will be the only recourse.
And who is Donna JV? Certainly not one speaking on my behalf.
Are you saying she forged the over 400 signatures on the petition against city control of garbage collecting? If so she must be pretty gutsy to use names like former council members such as Sheri Graham, Ruth Colquitt, Cliff Hamilton and first Sedona City Clerk Marie Brown. Not to mention high profile people like John Sather, Dick Dahl, Jody Beeler, Peggy Lanning – just a few from the very lengthy list that is available to research, scrutinize, criticize, and probably ignore as in the case of city council since it most assuredly does NOT reflect the image they intended. There are also professional people on that list, including active and retired physicians.
But, of course, you and your colleagues sitting upon your thrones in ivory towers prefer to snub the flatlanders and cast stones at those that would dare go against you.
NIce try.
Talk about a Witch Hunt! Sedona Red Rock News Friday 1/22/16 has an article about this and quotes Karen Daines, Asst Sedona Mgr, as having referenced a letter sent out by Taylor Waste Management to their customers alerting them of the city’s intention to bid for only one company. And that, Ms. Daines, was a crime? For a company to notify customers of a potential change in service?
If any of you, especially city staff and members of the city council, would take time to review even a portion of the several hundred signatures opposing this deprivation of civil rights you will find under responses defensive statements regarding all three garbage removal services available to us. Just by virtue of dragging the legitimate letter Tayor sent to customers in such a negative manner is blatant finger pointing at one of our fine trash collection companies for daring to educate paying customers to a much different point of view than is being portrayed by this slovenly, sneaky, city administration so blatantly using a list of unproved “myths” and “truths” as being factual.
The article further states that HOAs support the idea. Don’t these HOA’s realize they, too, will forfeit their rights as an organized HOA and be forced to go with the city’s proposed company? That was verified by a statement made by Karen Daines posted as a comment under another article on Sedona Eye. In other words, no, HOAs, you will not be able to do your own bargaining with garbage collection companies. You, too, will be forced to abide by the decision made by the city. Period.
And for the record I’ve no idea who Donna whoever is so slam, jam, and cram such divisive tactics to take focus on a very serious situation here.
@Marty – The SRRN really said HOA’s are in favor City monopolization of trash pick up? Really? If so then the SRRN is lying. I am president of Northview HOA and our BOD has not discussed the issue, but 3 of our directors have signed the petition as individuals.
BTW, I don’t read the SRRN ever since being “banned for life” from it by former owner, Bob Larsen. See https://sedonaeye.com/freedom-of-expression-essential-to-a-free-society/ for the story on that travesty. Lying seems to come easy for them.
As a resident of Foothills, I’m asking the HOA to send a clear letter of disgust from this city travesty. I won’t vote for any Council member voting in favor of this insanity or donate any more dollars for any election that they may be in.
In order to clarify the proposed policy for city takeover of garbage collection as it would pertain to HOA’s, the following is a portion of an e-mail exchange I had with Assistant City Manager Karen Daines;
On Jan 3, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Eddie Maddock wrote:
Hi Karen:
A council member called me last evening asking my opinion about the subject proposal which, of course, I was pleased to discuss one on one. However, something even more disturbing was revealed, that being areas with active HOA’s would be excluded as well as Sedona businesses from the restriction of city managed garbage collection. Unless this proposal includes all Sedona citizens, how can it be deemed anything other that discriminatory?
The following is Karen’s response:
From: Karen Daines
Date: 1/3/2016 1:11:04 PM
Subject: Re: GARBAGE COLLECTION
Hi Eddie, the way the consolidation would work is that ALL residential curbside trash and recycling services within the city limits would be included in a city-managed program. While it is true that many HOA’s have already done this for themselves (for many of the same reasons the City is looking at a citywide program), we would likely have a transition period in order to allow their existing contracts to expire, but when they did expire, they would then be subject to the city program. It is not accurate to say they would be excluded from what the city would otherwise be doing.
As for commercial, it is true that commercial trash collection would not be subject to any city contract(s). This isn’t do be discriminatory, this is because Arizona State Statute current prohibits cities and towns from regulating the commercial market in the same way they can residential. Hope this helps, Karen
@Marty — Is Karen Daine’s statement (1/22/16 RRN) that the majority of calls and emails received opposing the City taking over garbage collection were in response to Taylor Waste’s letter to its customers anything more than spin? Joan Shannon called me in early January asking I write an opposition letter to the City, indicating she was contacting people to request this.
@Jean J — The Red Rock News article, front page written by Ron Eland, explains Karen Daines met with all three trash companies and then on Dec. 14 a letter was sent to Taylor Waste customers by the owner of that company. Then further on in the article there’s a direct quote: “While the majority of the calls and emails we have received have been in response to the Taylor Waste letter urging their customers to oppose this effort, we have also had some positive feedback from individual residents and HOAs who support the idea,” Daines said. No dates were given when the meetings with the owners of the garbage companies occurred. The poll in that same edition asks the question: “Should the city hire just one trash hauling company?” So far the response is over 70% in opposition.
Sustainable good, Sedona is signed on for Agenda 21 and all this is part of it.
Ask to review any local agreements with ICCLEI
http://www.rense.com/general92/agend.htm
Just ask to form a citizen engagement group to discuss why citizens were not included in this decision and ask the city when the signed on? The US signed on in 1992.
“While the majority of the calls and emails we have received have been in response to the Taylor Waste letter urging their customers to oppose this effort, we have also had some positive feedback from individual residents and HOAs who support the idea,” Daines said.
Classic spin & BS. Blame the opposition on a Taylor waste letter (thereby marginalizing the opposition), then state there has been “some” positive feedback from “individual residents and HOAs.” Just what does “some” mean? The vague word, “some,” is used when there aren’t decent numbers to report.
So then this all ties in with that entire council meeting spent discussing a “sustainable” pilgrimage site at the sewer plant. OMG – who would have ever thought Sedona would fall into such evil, conniving, manipulative control? The problem is, how many people will stand up and say STOP? You are fools if you sit in silence and allow this to happen.
Can you please tell me when a decision was made????
I never once heard or read that a decision being made.
It sounds like there is some sort of process going on, the city employees did some research (of course no one on the site likes to hear that)
I think I read in the RRN that there is a presentation of sorts on February 1 and 2. I’d rather go to one of those meetings to hear what they have to say instead of jumping to conclusions.
The real Hillary Clinton written by Dick Morris, former political advisor to President Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was asked to do an ad on behalf of his wife. He was reluctant. Here’s why.
http://www.dickmorris.com/hillary-unmasked/
Here’s an excerpt for all you too lazy to click on the link –
………..Never one to engage in self reflection, she can’t blame herself or even her incompetent strategists and advisers. They’re too close to her. She can’t accept the sorry fact that her campaign has been a disaster because it was based on the past and not the future, because it was premised on her phony experience and maintaining the status quo, and because her negative outlook is completely out of step with the mood of America. And finally, because in the positive message of Barack Obama, Americans see a stark contrast with her doom and gloom view of the world.
So, she’ll blame the media. It’s their fault.
And she’ll keep screaming about what a fighter she is.
More like a bully.
I think it’s an Excellent idea for You and others to attend the City meetings. My only request to You is to listen to Both sides, then use Your own common sense to see the ramification of this action that the City is Not mentioning.
Example: Fact Sheet says ‘Lower Service Rates’, “The City met one-on-one with each of the current haulers…..Lower costs are achieved do to increased operational efficiencies and reduced financial risk (such as one bill to the City versus bills to many households).” -That means a lower cost to the City, but not necessarily to we residents after additional staff is added to bill each resident, City &/or Franchise Taxes are added, you may ‘have’ to pay for recycling service use it or not, and like our sewer fee you may have to pay for hauler whether your in town to use them or not.
Please read the Fact Sheet. It has so many holes in it that it looks like Swiss cheese with it’s lack of full hard core facts. Let’s All go to the meetings and demand answers to ALL the fact, then use Your God Given Common Sense.
Why do I think You sound exactly like Mayor Sandy???
Of course the public meetings are scheduled to make a good show. John Martinez has made it very clear he will vote to approve city garbage hauling because “he” thinks it’s best for Sedona. To hell with the residents that will be saddled with two garbage cans to drag out weekly whether we want it or not and at an unknown monthly fee.. It’s rumored that he doesn’t intend to stop with that – he wants for it to be mandated for us all to mush up our table scraps and forbid use of garbage disposals – compost piles instead.
It’s quite apparent that already four on that council have already made up their minds. Maybe with DiNunzio and Jablow there’s a chance for a no vote but that still won’t be enough.
Why spend the time, effort, and money on all the fluff when the decision is already made. We residents don’t matter. Only the voices of a mighty six at the moment are controlling our destiny.
Interesting article Arizona Republic 1/24/16, “Opinions” Section 5F:
“Our individual rights are guaranteed, even in cults.” But what about in Sedona?
Time for another “Harmonic Convergence?”
Let me see if I have this right. The City of Sedona has a goal to lower costs and reduce wear on our roads.
To do that they are going to have one trash company. Which will provide trash service, recycling service, and large item pickup. Each of these services from my experience requires a separate truck.
And you want me to believe this will lower costs and reduce wear on city roads? I call typical government BS. I bet our trash rates will double or triple from the current $12 I am paying per month. Plus the additional city staff to manage it.
More bad news besides the spin and hogwash about Taylor Waste in the 1/22/16 RRN: Focus Groups (plural) are convening. No transparency and the City leading pro-people around by the nose behind closed doors? Focus Groups are yet another sign the City taking over garbage handling is a done deal in my opinion.
So, what is a really big reason many streets are in terrible condition? The City lists tons of UNSCHEDULED street segments in their current five year maintenance plan that haven’t been repaired since the mid 1990’s to early 2000’s, many never. Ref: “City of Sedona – Public Maintained Streets, Scheduled Maintenance & Street Cut Restrictions.” .
Oh come on JeanJ must you really spin everything to be negative?
“No transparency and the City leading pro-people around by the nose behind closed doors”?
No Transparency??? Behind Closed doors???? Really???
The posted invitations all around town including RRN of meetings FOR EVERYONE to attend sure sounds transparent and out in the open!
You really need to get your butt out of the house and get some fresh air more often. Maybe then you’re stop thinking of yourself as the smartest person in the room.
I really don’t know what the big hubbub is so I’m going to show up at one of those events to learn about it.
Adding insult to injury is this constant ploy that these meetings will be held for the purpose of educating the public. And just who is it that needs educating? Why don’t they call it what it really is – an attempt to brainwash us? Why waste time when they will spin the outcome and sock it to us anyhow. Not a good way to heal the hostility in Sedona when all this underhanded manipulation simply adds fuel to the fire.
If anyone on the city council even reads SE
Pay no attention to the crybabies/complainers on this site(all ten of them)
If you do read it you will know they(the ten) hate all government.
Forge ahead with your plans, they are a minority. Let them complain and cry, they get off on it.
History is full of monopolies lowering costs. Oh wait. LOL, I got a good laugh out of that one.
I think, what we will find, is that the hauler most willing to provide campaign funds/kickbacks/whatever will be the lucky one chosen.
I will take competition, over monopoly any day. I don’t really expect a politician to get that, but we, the people do.
Bill’s not voting for Hillary. Knew that. That Hillary orchestrated the campaign to discredit Lewinsky & Flowers thanks to Bill’s best friend Dick Morris for sharing now we know. Hillary’s not a bully, she’s a power crazed narcissassawoman as my female psych friends call each other on bad days. We women aren’t stupid sheep like men, we won’t vote for her because she’s not worthy of the job. Polls don’t ask smart women what they think because they won’t get the answer they want. (Rachel Maddow said that first.)
AND I LOVE SEDONA RED ROCKS. The rocks though are magnificent.
Stop Excusing Inexcusable Behavior councilor Jessica acting under the name @WEst Sedona Resident
You can’t sustain a relationship that is based on deception. If lies, infidelity, or other deal-breaking behaviors are threatening your marriage or partnership, Dr. Phil has advice.
Please get help you need it. Rationalizing your bad and blaming others along with making up fantasies (ten) imaginary people is only driving your mental disorder to a higher level. Here is a link of suggested Mental Health Professionals and Program suggest by Dr. Phil. http://www.drphil.com/special_main/
best of luck, you need help
West Sedona Resident, if you hate SEye so much who do you abuse yourself by reading it?
Bill Marcy, brilliant: “I think, what we will find, is that the hauler most willing to provide campaign funds/kickbacks/whatever will be the lucky one chosen.”
Wasn’t it a partner in the Phoenix advertising agency sub-contracted by the chamber of commerce with city tax money that contributed $1000 to Sandy Moriarty’s campaign fund?
Some on Council know who we are. We don’t and won’t pay. We’re not here enough to warrant trash pickup costs. We drive our stuff once a week to Sedona Recycles and give our neighbor two houses over a box to put in his almost always empty container. Case of good wine twice a year and we’re copacetic. Screw you Council. Getting sick and tired of these bouts of power.
Occurs to me a basic question is being overlooked by you folks. Sedona has 3 trash companies you say? Somebody ought to contact each and see how many customers they each serve in the city limits! I’m betting from comments there’s a large percentage of non-customers like us. Somebody ought to ask those companies to come up with the data. I won’t because I’m in Wisconsin and won’t be back until next October. We don’t pay, we share with several neighbors on our culdesac. Only 2 that I know have service; leaves 4 or 6 of us that are part timers sharing. Inquiring minds and all that I guess. Don’t Mr. Editor put our name and street because we don’t want people to know the house is vacant. If you can’t put the comment up without our names and street then don’t publish it. Thank you. (Deleted by editor)
OMG!! THAT’S IT!! NO NAME YOU OPENED THE DOOR TO ENLIGHTENMENT!! IT’S NOT ABOUT SERVING THOSE WHO HAVE IT, IT’S ABOUT MAKING THOSE THAT DON’T PAY!!! WE’VE GOT A SEDONA MOMENT. THANK YOU NO NAME!!
THINK!!!!!! If like @no name says, WHO ELSE BENEFITS??????@#$%^&*(
THE GD TRASH HAULERS!!! If only a percentage of residents pay for a service then the city wants to take control and RAM EVERY RESIDENT WITH A HAND IN THEIR POCKET. GD. It’s so (deleted by editor) clear now. The trash haulers benefit, the city benefits, the people be damned. It’s collusion, it’s Sherman Act material, it’s FTC.
GD GD GD. You on Council AND THE GARBAGE HAULERS. THE LIGHT SHINES. Where’s Yuma Michaels when the people in Sedona will be tossed under a money grab bus? Take to the street corners!! Hold up signs!!
Chris. That’s it. Hey newspapers why not get your journalists to subpoena and request the public records (phone records, emails, correspondence) from city to all trash companies, trash company employees, trash company execs, recycle companies, recycle employees, Chamber of Commerce about business/commercial exclusions, lawyers for the city and county governments, and landfills and the government employees and supervisors for Coconino & Yavapai that have anything to do with landfills, garbage hauling and disposals, recycling businesses, recycling owners and execs, disposals? Might be an award in your future.
AMEN BILL.