You’re Invited!
REMINDER
EVENT:
Concerned Citizens For America (CC4A) welcomes:
Lecturer
CARL GOLDBERG, PhD
on
“Islam as Ideology in the Words of Leading Islamic Religious Authorities”
WHAT NON-MUSLIMS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ISLAM, AND WHY
WHEN: Tonight, September 1, 2016 at 6:30 p.m. until 8:30 p.m. (doors open at 6:00 p.m.)
WHERE: Canyon Trails Cowboy Church, 3132 White Bear Road, Sedona 86336
Topics will include:
Is Islam a religion or an ideology?
Has Islam been hijacked by “extremists”?
How are moderate Muslims reacting?
Islam and Islamism; what is the difference?
What is the specific role of the Koran and the Prophet?
What is Sharia law and how does the Koran describe non-Muslims?
Describe Islam’s relations with the non-Muslim world and explain “Jihad.”
How does Islam view our First Amendment and our Constitution?
What does the Koran say about Jews and Christians?
What is the Muslim Brotherhood’s plan based on the “Explanatory Memorandum”?
Which candidate for President has the best approach to Islamism?
And more…
All voters and interested public are welcome; enjoy desserts with us.
Follow up on planned or previous meeting topics:
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Oh great….Now this church is helping support more hate speech!
Keep it up guys, you must have one hell of a church there….
I wont support anything you ever do, as we all can see your one of those nonprofit, that is all about an agenda!!!!
I will make sure that all my friends know what you do behind closed doors….
Your a church?….LOL yea right….
You are a bigot & scary @ west Sedona Dave
Don’t you know a building is all it is & you’re like a fascist & Nazi & communist fanatic!! Freedom of assembly and speech are American rights.
Yes your right west sedona DAVE
They The Tea Party) use the cowboy church(tea party assembly area) as a front to spew their BS half truths and propaganda…..
Isn’t that what they assume people of doing when they “worship” at a mosque…!!!
Cowboy church should lose their Tax Excenpt status……you might call it an ENTITLEMENT …. Their tax free status. More hypocritical BS from the Tea Party aka Arizona Liberty
@West Sedona Dave,
The Church is just a lessor of a meeting hall. It’s not supporting or promoting anything. And, William Miloski is correct. You obviously don’t believe in the 1st Amendment because you’re a progressive liberal. Your brand of Bolshevism took a helluva whipping yesterday. Maybe you didn’t get the message. Let me be the first to deliver it to you!
JRN
@West Sedona Dave,
You’re the kind of loose left-wing nut who probably thinks that not liking fruitcake is homophobic and creepy ass cracka’s is something you buy in a grocery store.
@William Miloski,
Having fully bought into progressive liberal/Marxist propaganda, West Sedona Dave hates Constitutional Law and, doubtless, prefers to be what Joseph Stalin called a “useful idiot(s),” i.e. a sympathizer in the West who blindly supported communism.
Bill, Bill,Bill……Where do I start?
First there are 2 hit pieces (movies) out….One about Donald Trump, another about Hilary Clinton….These moves are very far from truth!….There movies, not documentaries!…..
The very wealth elites make these movies to feed into peoples fears and paranoia of the public…..Why….Do divide, that goes back thousands of years…..ever heard of divide and conquer?
So you have done a wonderful job falling for it hook line and sinker….I would be very embarrassed if I were you!
Now I see your mastery of the American English and definitions…..
I will put you in Mr. Trumps corner as you have no clue what a bigot is!…If I were you I would feel very embarrassed….
I have no problem with a church showing movies with no political leaning….But a church showing a anti religious move because its against the way they believe? And showing a political movie?……
No freaken way….There to be a NON PROFIT!…So no political speech or be like any other business and pay taxes!
Its to be (if christian) about helping thy neighbor….Love, understanding….Not showing 2 movies thats about hate speech!
When will you people learn the tight rope you constantly walk?
What do they say now….If Jesus was alive today, he would be a “homeless long haired socialist hippy”……..how true, and sad at the same time!
I’m a Jew. And if Jesus was alive today he would be ashamed of those that disobey G-ds commandments because he was a Jew. You know @ west Sedona Dave, like the millions your kind murdered, oppressed and muzzled with that times political correctness and lack of tolerance for those different from you? Mao and Lenin and Stalin and others created and improved the Soviet system and fewer than a handful of the elite continue to own those systems. You pretend to carry banners against the rich here but compared to those systems, our poverty level is twice what the standard of middle class living is in developed Soviet nations and our homeless have access to social networks that most Soviet nations and its satellites envy. Learn to read other media in those nations and see why they want their people to hate us — because we are superior and our lives and livelihoods are superior under capitalism. That’s not BS, it’s reality. And when you drive from here to Vermont or Michigan or Colorado or Oregon and don’t require bodyguards to save you from gangs and cartels, or papers permitting you to work and travel, welcome to why your uneducated naïveté and stupidity and arrogance is considered a right, not a privilege or cause for annihilation. You do know that one of your political compatriots executed someone for dozing off? You do know that Mao murdered more of his countrymen than Stalin? Your Stalin was no slouch as a mass murderer. Do you see how you think like them? No more from me Sedona Eye responding to these bigots and storm troopers who want less for others than they have accumulated under capitalism and its opportunities and or inherited. Somebody else needs to speak up. This lecturer sounds like he has an interesting topic. Everyone should go and engage in learning and discussion. That is where you agree or disagree civilly and ponder ideas.
#agreewilliam
@WSR
Hey, WSR, aren’t you that cranky old retired, and not so successful, Dow chemist who worked on the neurotoxins that are used in chemtrails? I’ll bet you live on a cul-de-sac in west Sedona. Anyway, I still diagnosed you correctly as a dangerous pyschopath like that environmentalist old hag you’re married to…Wsr. Come on and tell me I’m wrong.
NEW YORKER on Trump
This is absolutely brilliant. A surprising article from the New Yorker Magazine. This magazine has usually been a left wing apologizer so this article is even more amazing.
“Who is Donald Trump?” The better question may be, “What is Donald Trump?”
The answer? A giant middle finger from average Americans to the political and media establishment.
Some Trump supporters are like the 60s white girls who dated black guys just to annoy their parents. But most Trump supporters have simply had it with the Demo-socialists and the “Republicans in Name Only.” They know there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between Hillary Rodham and Jeb Bush, and only a few cents worth between Rodham and the other GOP candidates.
Ben Carson is not an “establishment” candidate, but the Clinton machine would pulverize Carson; and the somewhat rebellious Ted Cruz will (justifiably so) be tied up with natural born citizen lawsuits (as might Marco Rubio).
The Trump supporters figure they may as well have some fun tossing Molotov cocktails at Wall Street and Georgetown while they watch the nation collapse. Besides – lightning might strike, Trump might get elected, and he might actually fix a few things. Stranger things have happened.
Millions of conservatives are justifiably furious. They gave the Republicans control of the House in 2010 and control of the Senate in 2014, and have seen them govern no differently than Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Yet those same voters are supposed to trust the GOP in 2016? Why?
Trump did not come from out of nowhere. His candidacy was created by the last six years of Republican failures.
No reasonable person can believe that any of the establishment candidates will:
Slash federal spending
Rein in the Federal Reserve
Cut burdensome business regulations
Reform the tax code
Eliminate useless federal departments (the Departments of Education, Housing and Urban Development, Energy, etc.).
Even Ronald Reagan was unable to eliminate the Department of Education. (Of course, getting shot at tends to make a person less of a risk-taker.)
No reasonable person can believe that any of the nation’s major problems will be solved by Rodham, Bush, and the other dishers of donkey fazoo now eagerly eating corn in Iowa and pancakes in New Hampshire.
Many Americans have had it with:
anyone named Clinton
anyone named Bush
anyone who’s held political office
political correctness
illegal immigration
massive unemployment
phony “official” unemployment and inflation figures
welfare waste and fraud
people faking disabilities to go on the dole
VA waiting lists
TSA airport groping
ObamaCare
the Federal Reserve’s silly money-printing schemes
Wall Street crooks like Clinton pal Jon Corzine
Michelle Obama’s food police
Barack Obama’s inappropriate tee times
Barack Obama’s condescending lectures
Barack Obama’s criticism of America
Valerie Jarrett
Holiday trees
Hollywood hypocrites
global warming nonsense
cop killers
gun confiscation threats
stagnant wages
boys in girls’ bathrooms
whiny, spoiled college students who can’t even place the Civil War in the correct century…and that’s just the short list.
Trump supporters believe that no Democrat wants to address these issues, and that few Republicans have the courage to address these issues. They certainly know that none of the establishment candidates are better than barely listening to them, and Trump is their way of saying, “Screw you, Hillary Rodham Clinton Rove Bush!” The more the talking head political pundits insult the Trump supporters, the more supporters he gains.
But America does not need a tune-up at the same old garage. It needs a new engine installed by experts – and neither Rodham Clinton nor Bush are mechanics with the skills or experience to install it. Hillary Rodham Clinton is not a mechanic; she merely manages a garage her philandering husband abandoned. Jeb Bush is not a mechanic; he merely inherited a garage. Granted, Trump is also not a mechanic, but he knows where to find the best ones to work in his garage. He won’t hire his brother-in-law or someone to whom he owes a favor; he will hire someone who lives and breathes cars.
“How dare they revolt!” the “elites” are bellowing. Well, the citizens are daring to revolt, and the RINOs had better get used to it. “But Trump will hand the election to Clinton!” That is what the Karl Rove-types want people to believe, just as the leftist media eagerly shoved “Maverick” McCain down GOP throats in 2008 – knowing he would lose to Obama. But even if Trump loses and Rodham Clinton wins, she would not be dramatically different than Bush or most of his fellow candidates. They would be nothing more than caretakers, not working to restore America’s greatness but merely presiding over the collapse of a massively in-debt nation.
A nation can perhaps survive open borders; a nation can perhaps survive a generous welfare system. But no nation can survive both – and there is little evidence that the establishment candidates of either party understand that. The United States cannot forever continue on the path it is on. At some point it will be destroyed by its debt.
Is Trump the perfect candidate? Of course not. Neither was Ronald Reagan. But unless we close our borders and restrict immigration, all the other issues are irrelevant. One terrorist blowing up a bridge or a tunnel could kill thousands. One jihadist poisoning a city’s water supply could kill tens of thousands. One electromagnetic pulse attack from a single Iranian nuclear device could kill tens of millions. Faced with those possibilities, most Americans probably don’t care that Trump relied on eminent domain to grab up a final quarter acre of property for a hotel, or that he boils the blood of the Muslim Brotherhood thugs running the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
While Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s greatest fear is someone giving a Muslim a dirty look, most Americans are more worried about being gunned down at a shopping mall by a crazed lunatic who treats his prayer mat better than his three wives and who thinks 72 virgins are waiting for him in paradise.
The establishment is frightened to death that Trump will win, but not because they believe he will harm the nation. They are afraid he will upset their taxpayer-subsidized apple carts. While Obama threatens to veto legislation that spends too little, they worry that Trump will veto legislation that spends too much.
You can be certain that if an establishment candidate wins in November 2016 … their cabinet positions will be filled with the same people we’ve seen before. The washed-up has-beens of the Clinton and Bush administrations will be back in charge. The hacks from Goldman Sachs will continue to call the shots. Who makes the decisions in the White House will matter little.
If the establishment wins, America loses. And that’s the truth.
Well great Bill, than you should very well understand….
I cant wait for the church to show an antisemitic film so you can see how hate speech would offend the way you were raised and how you live today……
If I ran a church, I would not allow any of this because that would be the correct term for bigoted!…..Maybe they’ll have some XXX movies for next month?…
Most churches try to be helpful to people, families etc
They have suppers, rent space to helpful organizations, sponsor films about family and Faith, food drives, ETC….. The key being they are helpful and try to serve by being useful and giving…
Cowboy church …..not so much
Sponsor films, talks, and policitally slanted propaganda that divide and bring conflict and anger….. Tea Party hive. Of BS artists…
They should lose their Tax exempt status…..That’s an Entirlement Az Liberty and we know how you hate getting free stuff from the government….Your Hypocrites
You complainers about a meeting being held, what’s the big deal? Is anyone forcing you to attend? Instead of yammering about something you disagree with, get your act together and hold meetings to suit you.
It isn’t like all of us having to suffer with the increased traffic created by an ill-conceived city contract with the regional chamber of commerce to bring in millions of cars that Sedona cannot accommodate. Now that’s something to criticize, especially when you bring up non-profits. Oh brother, it will be a happy day when an authorized auditor hits on the chamber and tourism bureau, now conveniently combined as a means to cover up their covert operations. Not to mention a city council that breaks the open meeting law time and time again when a quorum of them attends parties at the Segner Ranch and consistently ride together to out-of-town meetings.
A public notice for a meeting? If only the city were that transparent about their secretive trysts. Get a grip. Get a life.
It should informative and educational.
Seriously people why don’t you stop judging and get educated. How can you possibly make a call without getting informed.
If you want to b-tch about misuse and abuse of non-profits then do so with the city and the chamber. They do you more harm by paying special interests groups millions every year. Those are the ones that should lose their NP. Your trying to control everything. FREEDOM ——–Residents lives matter!
Don’t judge or call names, learn something first. Residents lives matter!
Norma, I have hurled no insults, and my I suggest understand the big picture…
A church promoting hate speech is good to you?…I find it beyond strange and hypocritical even bazaar!
If you thing your so called free speech is everlasting and unstoppable…..I dare you to go to a movie theater and scream FIRE!
I find it funny in a sick way, people have no problem bashing what does not offend them…..But put a mirror in front of them they are blind to see!
As Bill, my Jewish friend here I dont think he would be happy if this “so called church” were to show a antisemitic film?
Wild guess…..bet not….?
I have already contacted many people about this church and will continue…..Freedom of speech?……A church is a place of worship which the government grants several privileges….One of the best “perks” is paying no taxes on anything…..
Right from the IRS.
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Jeopardizing Tax-Exempt Status
All IRC Section 501(c)(3) organizations, including churches and religious
organizations, must abide by certain rules:
their net earnings may not inure to any private shareholder or individual;
they must not provide a substantial benefit to private interests;
they must not devote a substantial part of their activities to attempting to
influence legislation;
they must not participate in, or intervene in, any political campaign on behalf of
(or in opposition to) any candidate for public office; and
the organization’s purposes and activities may not be illegal or violate
fundamental public policy
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Tax-Exempt Status
Churches and religious organizations, like many other charitable organizations,
qualify for exemption from federal income tax under IRC Section 501(c)(3) and are
generally eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions. To qualify for tax-exempt
status, the organization must meet the following requirements (covered in greater
detail throughout this publication):
the organization must be organized and operated exclusively for religious,
educational, scientific or other charitable purposes;
net earnings may not inure to the benefit of any private individual or shareholder;
no substantial part of its activity may be attempting to influence legislation;
the organization may not intervene in political campaigns; and
the organization’s purposes and activities may not be illegal or violate
fundamental public policy.
https://www.irs.gov/uac/charities-churches-and-politics
Charities, Churches and Politics
The ban on political campaign activity by charities and churches was created by Congress more than a half century ago. The Internal Revenue Service administers the tax laws written by Congress and has enforcement authority over tax-exempt organizations. Here is some background information on the political campaign activity ban and the latest IRS enforcement statistics regarding its administration of this congressional ban.
In 1954, Congress approved an amendment by Sen. Lyndon Johnson to prohibit 501(c)(3) organizations, which includes charities and churches, from engaging in any political campaign activity. To the extent Congress has revisited the ban over the years, it has in fact strengthened the ban. The most recent change came in 1987 when Congress amended the language to clarify that the prohibition also applies to statements opposing candidates.
Currently, the law prohibits political campaign activity by charities and churches by defining a 501(c)(3) organization as one “which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.”
The IRS has published Revenue Ruling 2007-41, which outlines how churches, and all 501(c)(3) organizations, can stay within the law regarding the ban on political activity. Also, the ban by Congress is on political campaign activity regarding a candidate; churches and other 501(c)(3) organizations can engage in a limited amount of lobbying (including ballot measures) and advocate for or against issues that are in the political arena. The IRS also has provided guidance regarding the difference between advocating for a candidate and advocating for legislation. See political and lobbying activities.
Each election cycle, the IRS reminds 501(c)(3) exempt organizations to be aware of the ban on political campaign activity. The IRS published its most recent reminder in a public news release which you can read here.
The division within the IRS responsible for overseeing churches and charities is the Tax Exempt and Government Entitities Division. TEGE has created a Web page entitled Charities, Churches, and Educational Organizations – Political Campaign Intervention. It is dedicated to the IRS most recent activities related to 501(c)(3) and political activity.
A definitive court case on the issue of free speech and political expression is Branch Ministries Inc. versus Rossotti. In that case, the court upheld the constitutionality of the ban on political activity. The court rejected the plaintiff church’s allegations that it was being selectively prosecuted because of its conservative views and that its First Amendment right to free speech was being infringed.
The court wrote: “The government has a compelling interest in maintaining the integrity of the tax system and in not subsidizing partisan political activity, and Section 501(c)(3) is the least restrictive means of accomplishing that purpose.”
Updated July 12, 2007
More specifically, that might be better stated as : Sedona Residents Matter.
City Council, pay attention. Those are the people you were elected to represent. Including those who choose to gather at meetings in this incorporated city, wherever they are held. Agree that the yammering complainers should put a sock in it.
@West Sedona Dave and Wsr,
Fools such as you two are the most dangerous of all to our way of life. You’re both trying to argue a religious point of view relative to a religion you know nothing about. This is why hecklers like the two of you are always easy to crush in a debate.
Islam is not a pure religion to start with as are the other 4 great religions of the world. The word of no other holy book from any other religion commands its believers to conquer the world and kill or enslave any non-believers who will not convert. Islam is a political ideology (Politics and Religion cannot be separated by the word of Mohammed), a legal system (Sharia), a military system (Jihad) organized to conquer Kafir (non-Muslims) countries in order to bring them into a geographical Caliphate (an Empire), and is a culture in which it is mortal sin to assimilate into a Kafir society.
Therefore, the asinine, misguided and ignorant progressive liberal concept of “religious diversity” is not possible relative to coexistence with Islam because in their belief-system failure to attempt the conquest of non-Islamic society is an unforgivable act always punishable by denial to paradise (heaven). So, would either of you like to debate me in a public forum on the subject? If not, then clam up and read this Islamic scripture!
The Qur’an in a variety of verses (2:225, 3:28, 3:54, 9:3, 16:106, 40:28, and 66:2) establishes the religious legitimacy of breaking oaths, lying, unilaterally violating treaties, and generally scheming against non-Muslims. Allah himself is described as “the best of schemers” (3:54, 8:30, 10:21), and Muhammad declared, as a justification for murdering unarmed prisoners after offering them safe passage, “war is deceit” (see the Hadith collection of Bukhari, vol. 4, book 52, numbers 268–271).
JRN
What an ass @WestSedonaDave. Think almost 400 people went & quite a few from the Catholic Church, a few the synagogue, several different churches around town & quite a lot don’t bother with going for various reasons, and I’d guess a lot are likely agnostics, maybe even atheists. Don’t even know if any of them go to that Cowboy Church because it wasn’t in the church, no one asked and no one cared; it wasn’t a religious test, it wasn’t a church test. People found it interesting, informative. Next!
But the basic foundation of this argument, yours, is moot. It’s not the church that sponsored it. The building was used and not even its sanctuary; it’s an adjacent meeting hall. You would shut down every church – that’s your argument. Now I say to you – STFU. I wouldn’t bother responding except YOU are involved in our local politics & YOU influence local legislation and political direction. YOU are dangerous because YOU are ignorant.
I ask that every pastor or priest or rabbi in Sedona stand together against this person’s hate speech. Your silence is appalling.
Why do you care what a church does? The Sedona Oak Creek Chamber of commerce has violated more IRS laws than any group. Give it up!
@Residents Lives Matter U R 100% correct…… time for citizens to ban together as Sedona Residents Matter. LOVE this!!!!!! SRM
@West Sedona Dave,
First, I really don’t care what the church does. I told you in my comment above, the church is just a lessor of a meeting hall. But, you’re absolutely right about the Sedona Chamber of Commerce. And, they will have to deal with Arizona Liberty… and we never give up. You should know that by now.
JRN
@ Michelle
The only ones spewing hate is the Tea Party propaganda going on at the Cowboy Church…….
@Wsr you are hilarious! The only ones speaking hate is ur clan of thieves.
The only ones spewing HATE is the City council, Steve Segner, Lodging Council and Chamber. Jennifer and Linda add to the hate by claiming they are the only ones that matter, as they want the $$$$. But you know this first hand as you direct the activity. All to get those city coffers to pay for your business ads. Flatlanders, the residents and in city businesses don’t contribute and don’t matter as YOU want MILLIONS from the city taxpayers.
BTW there is local Tea parties they are held by the Verde Valley Senior Center in Cottonwood on a regular basis. You should probably go as they are free and we all know how you like a deal and for others to pay for your expenses.
@@wsr
Don’t work for nor I’m I affiliated with Sedona government A-hole
As for holding a little Hste fueled Tea Party session in a senior center…..go for it
As for The Cowboy church (I use that term church loosely) holding hate fueled Tea Party propaganda meeting on their grounds shows the fraudulent nature of this organization….
I guess their not interested in helping others or spreading goodwill or carrying Gods will….. Just interested in allowing a BS group like “Concerned Citizens for America ” aka tea party aka AZ Liberty spread there racist hate and propaganda….
The cowboy church “the first church if capitalism ” where if Jesus were alive today he would be running a hedge fund.
Social Darwinism …
To question capitalism is to question God.
@WSR and Wsr
So you two Marxist psychopathic haters (DR/MR) are back. I think most readers here would agree that what shows your personal fraudulent nature is the fact that neither of you are bright enough to research and write and original article or participate in a public debate with either “Concerned Citizens for America” or “Arizona Liberty.” Both attract the attention of, and work with, state and federal luminaries. Do you WSR and Wsr? Of course not, because neither of you losers are important enough or brave enough to think and speak in the bright light of credibility. You just spew your anti-American hate. And, both of you have been deeply involved in anti-American activities before you retired in our town. Finally, don’t forget, I’ve accurately profiled both of you. Who do you think you’re kidding?
The only reason why state and federal luminaries communicate with that church is because the federal and state luminaries are also tea party members duh!!!!
As I said before it’s a hive for tea party hate racist activity shouldn’t be held at a church…. The true nature of a church giving helping others God’s will shouldn’t cause conflict or racist hate like a cowboy church does tea party Arizona liberty concerned citizens for America Are a bunch of hypocrites they use the government to serve themselves nobody else they hate government unless of course it’s convenient for them. BS artists
Going to have to drop a dime to the are IRS about fraudulent nonprofit activity
Thought proctologist you are an A hole as well
@Steve segner,
Steve, you know how I know the somebody other than you wrote your comment above? Because you said “the first church if capitalism,” and “…he would be running a hedge fund…” and you mentioned “Social Darwinism,” and I happen to know that you don’t have the slightest idea what any of that means.
JRN
@Wsr,
Geez, are you stupid. The Thought Proctologist said clearly ” ‘Concerned Citizens for America’ or ‘Arizona Liberty.’ Both attract the attention of, and work with, state and federal luminaries.” That means that CC4A and AZL communicate with …luminaries, not the church. No where was anything said about the church communicating with anybody. It appears The Thought Proctologist has just given you yet another thought enema…you aged old hag (Wsr).
JRN
This news blog is owned by Texans, waddyah expect she’s born in Europe and he went to Maryland, Gregory Stern her ex in Texas, she lived Scottsdale. 1%ers!!
@JRN
I guess will let the IRS sort it out…..get your books in order D-bag
@Wsr
After the Lois Lerner incident (IRS commissioner who got caught targeting conservatives) are you so ignorant as to think the IRS will want to spend time on our little Cowboy Church? It appears The Thought Proctologist really has succeeded doing to you that certain medical procedure she’s always speaking of. Btw, Wsr, since you’re always spewing out hate by calling people vulgar names related to the human anatomy, at least you shouldn’t choose an anatomical part of the human body that resembles your scraggly old face.
JRN
when did this become hate speech against a local church???? get back on topic RESIDENTS LIVES MATTER
Dear Steve I am very sorry you are so blind….
We have a local church that has taken upon itself to not only show political hate moves, it now shows movies bashing other religions….
And what in Gods name does Residents lives matter about?….Is our local police shaking you down for money? Beating you? Shooting you for being a Sedona resident?
I would not call pointing out hypocrisy, from a local church that feeds into hate speech…..But there are some very warped people around here that love to carry water for the few elites, that love to control people through disinformation, hate and lies……..and they fall all over there self’s defending them like cute little puppets.
@West Sedona Dave you are so wrong. The City of Sedona has violated the legitimate residents along with the legitimate businesses in the incorporated area. Those managing the city have given away the city to special interests and enabled those living outside the city limits the benefits that only the legitimate ones deserve.
Yep they bash the residents, businesses all the time. Ask your buddy Steve Segner he and Jennifer Wesselholf (chamber) are the biggest thieves and bullies. They get free and we pay.
@West Sedona Dave you are so wrong. The City of Sedona has violated the legitimate residents along with the legitimate businesses in the incorporated area. Those managing the city have given away the city to special interests and enabled those living outside the city limits the benefits that only the legitimate ones deserve.
Yep they bash the residents, businesses all the time. Ask your buddy (name deleted by editor) he and (name deleted by editor) (chamber) are the biggest thieves and bullies. They get free and we pay.
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Then get off you GD ass and do something about…..Pissing and moaning and never acting is plan out IGNORANT!…..You got so much evidence boom, done did deal…..Right?
We have a regular poster ragging about the same thing…..6 weeks have passed about illegal meetings with city counsel….No updates….No letters posted to city attorney, no letters posted to, county attorneys, no nothing given to the states attorney…..NOTHING but HOT AIR and allegations….
All you so called truthers, get off the couch, and contact the appropriate officials to make things right….
Maybe I should start some of my own?….There is that rape that one poster here did, and that other child molester that posts almost daily…..Should I just talk about it and make the story juicier?……or should I do something about all this illegal activity?
@West Sedona Dave
You are about to buy yourself some serious legal liability. I would suggest that you name the specific hate movies and speakers that you allege as well as the dates and times that they occurred. You had also better provide some evidence of hate MOTIVES as well. Otherwise, the Church has every right to file litigation against you for libel…not slander, but libel. And, I would suggest that they do just that. Do you think I’m kidding?
JRN
Bring on your attorneys JRN…..
Be careful what you wish for…….It just might come true!
The state knows who is backing you and your not on solid ground, and you know it!
hold your horses cowboys cowgirls, nobody worth a lick of salt is paying attention to what that those rascal rascalettes writes, stop giving him/her hims/hers the attention they crave, recognize a him/her hims/her fruit&nut when you see em, move along doggies, one snake in the grass hissing at cowboys and cowgirls don’t rattle none but the tail of the snake
@BBGG thanks for the laugh & good advice
@West Sedona Dave,
I have nothing to do with the Church and know nothing about them. But, I will most certainly pass your comments along to them with some advice, of course.
JRN
JRN….Your back peddle is duly noted!
You have much bigger problems around here…..I can find post, after post of people threatening violence….or should we say exactly, punching someone in the face, asking for your help, and asking others to join in…..and were were you trying to calm the situation down, or even better, giving your advice?….silence…..
You have raised many an eyebrow….Dont think your flying under some secret radar….One wrong move………Thats all there looking for…..just one
Well JRN, you really brought out the weirdos. Except for you and Segner, everyone else is hiding under their desk afraid someone will actually recognize the stupidity of the comments and associate then with a real name.
Amazing how “brave” people get when they are hiding under a rock. This is “almost” entertaining.
@West Sedona Dave get a grip! clearly u r ss and u freaked out cause someone ask someone to punch Steve out! U r sooooo funny little ole man. yaktiy yak
U made it worth the post. U attack everyone and have your hand in the city coffers bank account. Simply low life raton. :) :)
Since when is it JRN job to control every post on the eye @west Sedona Dave? Go get a life. You full of crap.
@West Sedona Dave,
Ooh, you talk tough Dave. Well, I’ve seen J. Rick speak publicly, and I can assure every reader here that Dave would never have the nerve to confront him in public. But he seems pretty popular other than to two or three envious hecklers at this site. You say “One wrong move………Thats all there [they’re] looking for…..just one” Who exactly is “they”? I am told J. Rick has been writing for eight years here and no one’s come across a wrong move yet. Why don’t you have the back-bone to confront him personally and see if you can become that one wrong move? You’re a typical heckler Dave. You’re a yellow-belly with a big mouth as long as you’re anonymous.
Oh look it’s Mike Schroder ….the guy who’s always running his mouth on every and all subjects ….
How’s your (deleted by editor) doing …
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You and your Tea Party hypocrites are a bunch of BS artists…..
Am laughing @ this typical Sedona repartee; what cocktail party am I at again? No wonder I quit drinking, or did I begin again? Goodnight Sedona. I don’t miss you after all.
Somethings never change. That s the way they do it here. Backwards. There is a front door and a back. That is Sedona! If you speak up against anything the Club wants then the name calling and attacks go on. , Those in control are unprofessional and misuse taxpayers money. They have made Sedona City the platform for their PERSONAL pets. Sedona city mafia.
Socialists abusers. They don’t deserve to be a city.
It is NOT just the residents of the city that have had enough. Those living in the village are sick and tired of the City ruining their quality of life. No one could move around this past weekend.The village has had enough of the chamber and city clogging the roadways.
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If you are being called names and being attacked then you ARE doing the right thing. They are trying to suppress you, control you. PLEASE please keep it up. The flatlanders NEED your help. Sedona City has been taken over by cheater and liars all to spend every penny of city coffers money plus more. They act and control the region.