Comments on: Wild and Scenic Rivers matter to all of us!

By: State of the Verde Watershed Conference

State of the Verde Watershed Conference — Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:15:38 +0000

This semi-annual conference is a great opportunity to learn more about the current conditions of the Verde and its tributaries, and be part of planning for the rivers healthy future.

In 2018, Friends of the Verde River and The Nature Conservancy, partnered with the University of Maryland Center for Environmental Science, with funding from US Forest Service, to development a Watershed Report Card to define and measure the condition (status and trends) of the watershed. The resulting Watershed Report Card will be presented at the 2019 Conference.

DAY ONE – field trips related to the river, social in the evening
DAYS TWO & THREE – keynote speakers, focus sessions, discussion groups all centered around the Report Card and improving the health of the river.

JACKPOT RANCH ONLY – If you only want to attend this gathering on Tuesday, Oct 29th, you can do so for $35.

Go to the website for more details on the State of the Verde Watershed Conference, Monday, October 28, 2019 – Wednesday, October 30, 2019.

By: Bill, Uptown

Bill, Uptown — Wed, 16 Oct 2019 03:19:48 +0000

Wise words @Michelesedona. Practice these principles.

By: Michele, Sedona

Michele, Sedona — Sun, 29 Sep 2019 23:37:06 +0000

Reading an article downstate there was this comment that seemed worth sharing.

“For me the problem isn’t necessarily the ecology, because that can be discussed, it’s the lack of transparency in the processes of recognizing the pollutants and polluters.”

Isn’t it necessary for the ecological impact of development to be examined in Sedona and along the river(s)? Ecology cannot be continually impacted by artificial elements without collapsing and tourism is an artificial element which can be controlled and manipulated. Like other tourism centres, limiting access is a sound practice.

By: Karen

Karen — Sat, 21 Sep 2019 00:17:15 +0000

Like I said, I’m not engaging in an uneducated argument. You can cut and paste but you still don’t have a legitimate foundation to discuss this matter. What you’ve said isn’t worth commenting on.

By: Steve Segner

Steve Segner — Fri, 20 Sep 2019 16:48:12 +0000

Karen says: says:I refuse to spar with the uninformed.
Please Karen tell what is not accurate, You say you don’t want to spar… no need to just show us what I said that is wrong simple. The land I live on was stolen from native American as well as your land and all of Sedona .
The traditional Navajo homeland spans from Arizona through western New Mexico, where the Navajo had houses, planted crops and raised livestock. There was a long historical pattern in the Southwest of groups or bands raiding and trading with each other, with treaties being made and broken. This included interactions between Navajo, Spanish, Mexican, Pueblos, Apache, Comanche, Ute, and later the “Americans.” Individual civilians and Native Americans could be victims of these conflicts and also instigate conflicts to serve their special interests.[5]
The Long Walk of the Navajo , also called the Long Walk to Bosque Redondo (Navajo: Hwéeldi), refers to the 1864 deportation and attempted ethnic cleansing[1][2] of the Navajo people by the government of the United States of America. Navajos were forced to walk from their land in what is now Arizona to eastern New Mexico. Some 53 different forced marches occurred between August 1864 and the end of 1866. Some anthropologists claim that the “collective trauma of the Long Walk…is critical to contemporary Navajos’ sense of identity as a peopleSteve Segner

By: Karen

Karen — Fri, 20 Sep 2019 01:48:24 +0000

Mt. Segner, I suggest with your grasp of its legacy that you return your stolen lands to the appropriate nation and its citizens. Otherwise you are the white man who accepted stolen goods and should be prosecuted for theft. At the minimum, you personally owe reparations to the families you displaced. Isn’t it good that you have the financial resources to make amends?

I refuse to spar with the uninformed.

By: Steve Segner

Steve Segner — Thu, 19 Sep 2019 22:54:44 +0000

Karen, History Teach says:Your laughingly referred to indigenous peoples warred and enslaved and kidnapped and raped and murdered really you believe this,
Did you even go to school ?
The local natives farmed, and in Phoenix there were over 200 miles of irrigation ditches for farming…. And then the whites came and took it all…. All in the name of Christianity and progress. The whites did the natives no favors just took their land. My on place in Indian Garden were farms and the Indians sold produce to the locals….. Until the late 1880ies The Thompson came along and just took the land…..
Please don’t pass off the that the white man civilized the savage. We raped and killed ,short and simple and we should still be ashamed Still.

By: Karen, History Teach

Karen, History Teach — Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:55:22 +0000

Your laughingly referred to indigenous peoples warred and enslaved and kidnapped and raped and murdered while pillaging other tribes and nations across the present day North and South America continents long before Europeans or Vikings and African and Middle Eastern and Islanders came fleeing the same warring tribes and nations on their continents. Long before Aztecs and Incas Eskimos Dine and Hopi and others took form. So which tribes and which family members of those tribes and the other tribes and nations are to be accepted as indigenous or cast out for warring and destroying peaceful people? Political correctness demands you choose.

Every continents self flagellation is tiring and based on archeological and anthropological ignorance. It’s a condition for people who cannot and will not live in the present and the future and who cannot believe they have free will and choice and who are educated by the same. The mantra of the deceived not the conceived.

By: Yolanda Gray, Clarkdale

Yolanda Gray, Clarkdale — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 23:04:09 +0000

I’m tired of reading stupid comments by these two posters. My issue would be with this conference’s sponsors like SRP. Shows how superficial Sedona posters like those two are. Caring about the environment is not political, it’s commonsense to not foul your own nest. My guess they both drink for a living. My guess is they cater to tourists for livelihoods.

By: Save Oak Creek and the Verde River !!!

Save Oak Creek and the Verde River !!! — Wed, 18 Sep 2019 21:26:01 +0000

Ban Tourists !! Only Native American and local residents.