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		By: Tricking the fools		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-home-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-40018</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tricking the fools]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 21:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sedona has a population of approximately 10,000 with a median age of 56.1. The population has been dropping off each year. 

Many of the employed people today are working part time jobs for $10 to $13 per hour.  Meanwhile, the unemployment rates are skyrocketing. 

You would think that a person (especially a female) who has reached and surpassed their &quot;sell by date&quot; would have learned about late night drunken text rants and not to do that.

Amazing how anyone would take the word of &quot;Tom G&quot; or &quot;Tom Bergen&quot; especially after showing such class and maturity as &quot;screaming&quot; in CAPS LOCK, &quot;liar liar pants on fire&quot;.  My six year old has shown better restraint and maturity.  Speaking of six-year olds, and since the Toms love to talk about rumors, I heard that a certain City worker (deleted by editor) ...18+.

I&#039;ve checked out that sedona disincorporation website, and was aghast to see who is connected in Sedona and how the money seems to be passed back and forth to a privileged few.  That is appalling! 

My VOTE is NO for Home Rule.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sedona has a population of approximately 10,000 with a median age of 56.1. The population has been dropping off each year. </p>
<p>Many of the employed people today are working part time jobs for $10 to $13 per hour.  Meanwhile, the unemployment rates are skyrocketing. </p>
<p>You would think that a person (especially a female) who has reached and surpassed their &#8220;sell by date&#8221; would have learned about late night drunken text rants and not to do that.</p>
<p>Amazing how anyone would take the word of &#8220;Tom G&#8221; or &#8220;Tom Bergen&#8221; especially after showing such class and maturity as &#8220;screaming&#8221; in CAPS LOCK, &#8220;liar liar pants on fire&#8221;.  My six year old has shown better restraint and maturity.  Speaking of six-year olds, and since the Toms love to talk about rumors, I heard that a certain City worker (deleted by editor) &#8230;18+.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve checked out that sedona disincorporation website, and was aghast to see who is connected in Sedona and how the money seems to be passed back and forth to a privileged few.  That is appalling! </p>
<p>My VOTE is NO for Home Rule.</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-home-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-40013</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 20:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a good one. Not true.
When the City of Sedona Incorporated it was promised on NO city property taxes. The sales tax was suppose to pay for infrastructure.  Everyone pays county property tax.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good one. Not true.<br />
When the City of Sedona Incorporated it was promised on NO city property taxes. The sales tax was suppose to pay for infrastructure.  Everyone pays county property tax.</p>
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		By: Food for Thought.....		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-home-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-39996</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 17:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Alex

I work at a business in Hillside. I&#039;ve been asked by tourists about the sales tax as well. When I explain to them that we appreciate their business and that a portion of the sales tax (3%) is used to offset any property tax for the residents. I&#039;ve never had a tourist complain after hearing that. As a matter of fact, they&#039;ve all be very supportive of our city and were happy to pay a bit extra to help us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alex</p>
<p>I work at a business in Hillside. I&#8217;ve been asked by tourists about the sales tax as well. When I explain to them that we appreciate their business and that a portion of the sales tax (3%) is used to offset any property tax for the residents. I&#8217;ve never had a tourist complain after hearing that. As a matter of fact, they&#8217;ve all be very supportive of our city and were happy to pay a bit extra to help us.</p>
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		By: Tom G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 17:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s right FOOD FOR THOUGHT..  Everything was fine for Tony Tonish when his girlfriend worked for SFD... Salary, vacation, sick leave and health insurance.. I guess it&#039;s ok if he a recipient if those things..

I pretty sure she got fired.? Then in lies his complaints about all things government!!

He has a chip on his shoulder for those that can actually keep thier job..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right FOOD FOR THOUGHT..  Everything was fine for Tony Tonish when his girlfriend worked for SFD&#8230; Salary, vacation, sick leave and health insurance.. I guess it&#8217;s ok if he a recipient if those things..</p>
<p>I pretty sure she got fired.? Then in lies his complaints about all things government!!</p>
<p>He has a chip on his shoulder for those that can actually keep thier job..</p>
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		By: Tony Tonsich		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Tonsich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 17:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think people deserve vacations, but a month the first year?  Maybe a week, then you can earn a month after 10 years.  

Yes, people deserve a living wage. But when city and government workers are the best paid people in the area, something is wrong. It used to be you took a government job for the security, at a slightly lower rate of pay. Now they want to be paid the same as the guy in New York City, because it is &quot;competitive&quot;. This is a town of 10,000. Most of these highly paid city workers don&#039;t even live here. I think they should be required to.  

Yes, the government dose give bonuses. Do a Google search.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people deserve vacations, but a month the first year?  Maybe a week, then you can earn a month after 10 years.  </p>
<p>Yes, people deserve a living wage. But when city and government workers are the best paid people in the area, something is wrong. It used to be you took a government job for the security, at a slightly lower rate of pay. Now they want to be paid the same as the guy in New York City, because it is &#8220;competitive&#8221;. This is a town of 10,000. Most of these highly paid city workers don&#8217;t even live here. I think they should be required to.  </p>
<p>Yes, the government dose give bonuses. Do a Google search.</p>
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		By: Food for Thought.....		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-home-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-39980</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 15:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Tony Tonisch

I was just reading some of your old postings and saw something from Tom G from a long time ago relating you to someone that works now or used to work for the SFD. 

I was just wondering if you complained if he had a PAID vacation, PAID medical coverage or was given training to do his job. 

I heard that the SFD pay&#039;s a good standard salary, did you complain back then, that your relative was paid too much or was it OK for him. 

I won&#039;t even ask about bonuses because government doesn&#039;t give bonuses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony Tonisch</p>
<p>I was just reading some of your old postings and saw something from Tom G from a long time ago relating you to someone that works now or used to work for the SFD. </p>
<p>I was just wondering if you complained if he had a PAID vacation, PAID medical coverage or was given training to do his job. </p>
<p>I heard that the SFD pay&#8217;s a good standard salary, did you complain back then, that your relative was paid too much or was it OK for him. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t even ask about bonuses because government doesn&#8217;t give bonuses.</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-home-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-39973</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 14:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I decided to vote No on Home Rule.

For all the pseudonyms on this web sites, your ranting and attacks helped me make that decision.  Thank you!

I operate a family business in town.  We hear complaints every day from the TOURISTS about our sales tax rate. 

Vote NO on home rule. Be happy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided to vote No on Home Rule.</p>
<p>For all the pseudonyms on this web sites, your ranting and attacks helped me make that decision.  Thank you!</p>
<p>I operate a family business in town.  We hear complaints every day from the TOURISTS about our sales tax rate. </p>
<p>Vote NO on home rule. Be happy.</p>
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		By: Tony Tonsich		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-home-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-39972</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Tonsich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 14:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tim Ernster, $167,500 salary, $22,000 towards one retirement account, contributions to a second retirement account, $500 per month towards his car. 
Full contract available on (Sedona disincorporation website - site links edited) 

Assistant city manager $100,000 plus 1 month leave/vacation, her first year of employment. This after leaving her previous employment, Search Karen Daines Sedona on Google. 

Every employee gets one month leave/vacation The first year !!!

Account #6009  Employee Appreciation pay $160,080  Looks like a bonus to me. 

Take a look at (sedona az website or sedona disincorporation - site links edited) for facts, not juvenile accusations in all caps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Ernster, $167,500 salary, $22,000 towards one retirement account, contributions to a second retirement account, $500 per month towards his car.<br />
Full contract available on (Sedona disincorporation website &#8211; site links edited) </p>
<p>Assistant city manager $100,000 plus 1 month leave/vacation, her first year of employment. This after leaving her previous employment, Search Karen Daines Sedona on Google. </p>
<p>Every employee gets one month leave/vacation The first year !!!</p>
<p>Account #6009  Employee Appreciation pay $160,080  Looks like a bonus to me. </p>
<p>Take a look at (sedona az website or sedona disincorporation &#8211; site links edited) for facts, not juvenile accusations in all caps.</p>
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		By: Tom Bergen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Bergen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 04:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Tony

Let&#039;s take this jealous rage step by step:


Gold plated salaries, CAN WE SAY AT OR BELOW MARKET RATE depending on which position you&#039;re talking about. SOUNDS JEALOUS TO ME.

bonuses. I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND NOT ONE LINE ITEM READ BONUS. LAIR LAIR, PANTS ON FIRE.
 
medical, WHAT PROFESSIONAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY DOESN&#039;T OFFER MEDICAL COVERAGE. AS LONG AS IT&#039;S MANAGED PROPERLY, AND IT IS IN SEDONA, IT&#039;S A STANDARD LINE ITEM. I&#039;M GUESSING THAT THEY DON&#039;T OFFER MEDICAL COVERAGE AT THAT HOA THAT YOU HEAD, OH THAT&#039;S RIGHT, IT&#039;S NOT CONSIDERED A GOVERNMENT. SOUNDS JEALOUS TO ME.

vacations WHAT PROFESSIONAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY OR ANY FULL TIME JOB DOESN&#039;T OFFER VACATION TIME. SOUNDS LIKE YOU&#039;RE JEALOUS TO ME. 

staff training, OH, WE SHOULD HAVE STAFF AND NOT TRAIN THEM. GET REAL!

gifts to the chamber and the film festival, I DON&#039;T SEE A SINGLE LINE ITEM THAT SAYS GIFTS FOR THE COC OR FILM FESTIVAL. THIS IS JUST YOUR OPINION. 

perks to friends of those in power, Roughly $33,500,000.. AGAIN, JUST YOUR CLOSED MINDED OPINION. NOT ONE LINE ITEM SAYS &quot;PERKS TO FRIENDS&quot;

Obviously the city does not want to cut any of that, WHY WOULD THEY, IT&#039;S AN INVESTMENT INTO OUR CITY WITH TOURISTS AND RESIDENT TAX MONEY. 


HAY TONY, YOU KEEP ON TELLING PEOPLE TO READ THE BUDGET, I DID AND I ALSO WATCHED THE BUDGET HEARINGS ON THE INTERNET. ONCE AGAIN YOU&#039;RE TWISTING AND MAKING STUFF UP. FREEBEES ? REALLY?

Once again, liar liar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take this jealous rage step by step:</p>
<p>Gold plated salaries, CAN WE SAY AT OR BELOW MARKET RATE depending on which position you&#8217;re talking about. SOUNDS JEALOUS TO ME.</p>
<p>bonuses. I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND NOT ONE LINE ITEM READ BONUS. LAIR LAIR, PANTS ON FIRE.</p>
<p>medical, WHAT PROFESSIONAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY DOESN&#8217;T OFFER MEDICAL COVERAGE. AS LONG AS IT&#8217;S MANAGED PROPERLY, AND IT IS IN SEDONA, IT&#8217;S A STANDARD LINE ITEM. I&#8217;M GUESSING THAT THEY DON&#8217;T OFFER MEDICAL COVERAGE AT THAT HOA THAT YOU HEAD, OH THAT&#8217;S RIGHT, IT&#8217;S NOT CONSIDERED A GOVERNMENT. SOUNDS JEALOUS TO ME.</p>
<p>vacations WHAT PROFESSIONAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY OR ANY FULL TIME JOB DOESN&#8217;T OFFER VACATION TIME. SOUNDS LIKE YOU&#8217;RE JEALOUS TO ME. </p>
<p>staff training, OH, WE SHOULD HAVE STAFF AND NOT TRAIN THEM. GET REAL!</p>
<p>gifts to the chamber and the film festival, I DON&#8217;T SEE A SINGLE LINE ITEM THAT SAYS GIFTS FOR THE COC OR FILM FESTIVAL. THIS IS JUST YOUR OPINION. </p>
<p>perks to friends of those in power, Roughly $33,500,000.. AGAIN, JUST YOUR CLOSED MINDED OPINION. NOT ONE LINE ITEM SAYS &#8220;PERKS TO FRIENDS&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously the city does not want to cut any of that, WHY WOULD THEY, IT&#8217;S AN INVESTMENT INTO OUR CITY WITH TOURISTS AND RESIDENT TAX MONEY. </p>
<p>HAY TONY, YOU KEEP ON TELLING PEOPLE TO READ THE BUDGET, I DID AND I ALSO WATCHED THE BUDGET HEARINGS ON THE INTERNET. ONCE AGAIN YOU&#8217;RE TWISTING AND MAKING STUFF UP. FREEBEES ? REALLY?</p>
<p>Once again, liar liar.</p>
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		By: Tim G		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-home-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-39878</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2014 03:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alex::

You make no sense!!

The roads seem fine, I see drainage work going on in West Sedona,  as far as sewer fees, I don&#039;t mind paying them, beats digging a new septic..

BTW  don&#039;t  attend the film festival and I&#039;m not interested in free stuff.

Why don&#039;t you stop your bellyaching  and crying]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex::</p>
<p>You make no sense!!</p>
<p>The roads seem fine, I see drainage work going on in West Sedona,  as far as sewer fees, I don&#8217;t mind paying them, beats digging a new septic..</p>
<p>BTW  don&#8217;t  attend the film festival and I&#8217;m not interested in free stuff.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you stop your bellyaching  and crying</p>
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