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		By: Bettye, west Sedona		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-410/comment-page-1/#comment-8577</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bettye, west Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Ray, I couldn&#039;t have said it better.  Vote YES ON 410!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ray, I couldn&#8217;t have said it better.  Vote YES ON 410!</p>
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		By: Ray, west Sedona		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-410/comment-page-1/#comment-8575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray, west Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Getting damn tired of fat cat businesses/businessowners &amp; dumped politicians trying to line their pockets on 89A with my tax dollars.  Been listening to both sides now. I know owning the road is an investment.  Our Sedona lifestyle is worth it.  

Quality of life should trump fat cat ADOT dollars spent on 108 lights that will cost a fortune to keep lit for 10 hours each and every day. Add it up. Our city electric bill is enormous now. Quadruple it &amp; times it by years.  Give me a road instead.

LIGHTS in a poor economy?  Thousands and thousands of $$ to keep the night sky lit for drunks and coyotes &amp; it ruins quality of life. Own the road.

Businesses on 89A don&#039;t care about residents and tourists except as wallet-vultures.    I know, I used to own a business &amp; let me tell you, my bottom line loved your wallets.  If I could have had lights to keep you in my store 24/7 I would have dug the holes and turned the switches on every night myself.

Stop inviting the shaft from Scagnelli/Frey/Colquitt/Surber &amp; business cronies.   Bad politicians for Sedona then - worse for its future.

Stand up. Those power hungry buffoons were soundly ousted in the last election. Hold firm. Show some backbone. Send your ballots back marked clearly with A YES ON 410.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting damn tired of fat cat businesses/businessowners &#038; dumped politicians trying to line their pockets on 89A with my tax dollars.  Been listening to both sides now. I know owning the road is an investment.  Our Sedona lifestyle is worth it.  </p>
<p>Quality of life should trump fat cat ADOT dollars spent on 108 lights that will cost a fortune to keep lit for 10 hours each and every day. Add it up. Our city electric bill is enormous now. Quadruple it &#038; times it by years.  Give me a road instead.</p>
<p>LIGHTS in a poor economy?  Thousands and thousands of $$ to keep the night sky lit for drunks and coyotes &#038; it ruins quality of life. Own the road.</p>
<p>Businesses on 89A don&#8217;t care about residents and tourists except as wallet-vultures.    I know, I used to own a business &#038; let me tell you, my bottom line loved your wallets.  If I could have had lights to keep you in my store 24/7 I would have dug the holes and turned the switches on every night myself.</p>
<p>Stop inviting the shaft from Scagnelli/Frey/Colquitt/Surber &#038; business cronies.   Bad politicians for Sedona then &#8211; worse for its future.</p>
<p>Stand up. Those power hungry buffoons were soundly ousted in the last election. Hold firm. Show some backbone. Send your ballots back marked clearly with A YES ON 410.</p>
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		By: Very Funny But Not Laughing		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-410/comment-page-1/#comment-8565</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Old news from the &quot;Great Authority.&quot; May I ask by what power has Cliff Hamilton and other certain members of the Sedona Council been deemed perceived Sainthood?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news from the &#8220;Great Authority.&#8221; May I ask by what power has Cliff Hamilton and other certain members of the Sedona Council been deemed perceived Sainthood?</p>
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		By: N. Baer		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-410/comment-page-1/#comment-8563</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N. Baer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s your answer Very Funny But Not Laughing:
http://tinyurl.com/http-WeCanOwn89a-com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s your answer Very Funny But Not Laughing:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/http-WeCanOwn89a-com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/http-WeCanOwn89a-com</a></p>
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		By: Very Funny But Not Laughing		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-410/comment-page-1/#comment-8557</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And when and if the City of Sedona owns this State Highway will they receive the same amount of funding from the Federal Highway Works Administration as is presently allocated to ADOT, including but not limited to gas taxes?

Also, by your own admission, N. Baer, available funding to ADOT expands far beyond taxes collected from only the residents within Sedona City Limits. Isn&#039;t it true that will no longer be the case if City of Sedona holds the deed to this five mile stretch of State Highway which runs from at least Prescott through Jerome, Cottonwood, Sedona, and up Oak Creek Canyon though Flagstaff?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when and if the City of Sedona owns this State Highway will they receive the same amount of funding from the Federal Highway Works Administration as is presently allocated to ADOT, including but not limited to gas taxes?</p>
<p>Also, by your own admission, N. Baer, available funding to ADOT expands far beyond taxes collected from only the residents within Sedona City Limits. Isn&#8217;t it true that will no longer be the case if City of Sedona holds the deed to this five mile stretch of State Highway which runs from at least Prescott through Jerome, Cottonwood, Sedona, and up Oak Creek Canyon though Flagstaff?</p>
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		By: N. Baer		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-410/comment-page-1/#comment-8549</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To &quot;Very Funny But Not Laughing&quot; - Just would like to clarify for other readers that &quot;Our Money&quot; comes to us from ADOT, who obtains its money from the Federal Highway Works Administration, who in turn obtains its funds from gas taxes, etc. In other words, us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;Very Funny But Not Laughing&#8221; &#8211; Just would like to clarify for other readers that &#8220;Our Money&#8221; comes to us from ADOT, who obtains its money from the Federal Highway Works Administration, who in turn obtains its funds from gas taxes, etc. In other words, us.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-410/comment-page-1/#comment-8535</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The only thing that Liz Smith, Eddie Maddock, and others have proved is that the takeback of 89A is necessary and that reasons for not doing it are 1) future solved issues while 2) the present issue of having 108 lights shoved down our throats isn&#039;t resolved any other way but by taking that road back.

Why do people keep forgetting that ADOT designed the present highway mess that we have? 

Why do you think that the Arizona Department of Transportation gives a tarnation about Sedona tourists, residents or businesses?  It&#039;s not their job to know one thing about those issues.  

Their job at the department of transportation? Install lights and lay asphalt.  That is the business that they are in. 

We are on the list of 1) where to dump asphalt and 2) get rid of lights to 3) justify not dumping state workers for a bloated agency.

And for &quot;Another Point of View&quot;: Here&#039;s a 108 Uptown reason for telling ADOT to take its lights and ship them back to China:

108 jackasses are employed where only 18 work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that Liz Smith, Eddie Maddock, and others have proved is that the takeback of 89A is necessary and that reasons for not doing it are 1) future solved issues while 2) the present issue of having 108 lights shoved down our throats isn&#8217;t resolved any other way but by taking that road back.</p>
<p>Why do people keep forgetting that ADOT designed the present highway mess that we have? </p>
<p>Why do you think that the Arizona Department of Transportation gives a tarnation about Sedona tourists, residents or businesses?  It&#8217;s not their job to know one thing about those issues.  </p>
<p>Their job at the department of transportation? Install lights and lay asphalt.  That is the business that they are in. </p>
<p>We are on the list of 1) where to dump asphalt and 2) get rid of lights to 3) justify not dumping state workers for a bloated agency.</p>
<p>And for &#8220;Another Point of View&#8221;: Here&#8217;s a 108 Uptown reason for telling ADOT to take its lights and ship them back to China:</p>
<p>108 jackasses are employed where only 18 work.</p>
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		By: Very Funny But Not Laughing		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-410/comment-page-1/#comment-8526</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Very Funny But Not Laughing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Yellow Jackets aka Voice of Choice 89A have posted signs around town advocating a &quot;Yes&quot; Vote on Proposition 410. The signs state: &quot;OUR CITY, OUR ROAD, OUR CHOICE.&quot; 

Has anyone else observed a very stark omission, that being &quot;OUR MONEY.&quot; Oh, but then why confuse this issue with a true portrayal of facts at this late stage of the game?

Based on that prevailing attitude with these obviously devious people, what better reason is there than to vote an emphatic &quot;NO&quot; on Proposition 410 which will properly maintain the cost of improvements and maintenance as ADOT&#039;s responsibility  which  is appropriate for State Route designated roadways.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Yellow Jackets aka Voice of Choice 89A have posted signs around town advocating a &#8220;Yes&#8221; Vote on Proposition 410. The signs state: &#8220;OUR CITY, OUR ROAD, OUR CHOICE.&#8221; </p>
<p>Has anyone else observed a very stark omission, that being &#8220;OUR MONEY.&#8221; Oh, but then why confuse this issue with a true portrayal of facts at this late stage of the game?</p>
<p>Based on that prevailing attitude with these obviously devious people, what better reason is there than to vote an emphatic &#8220;NO&#8221; on Proposition 410 which will properly maintain the cost of improvements and maintenance as ADOT&#8217;s responsibility  which  is appropriate for State Route designated roadways.</p>
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		By: Another Point of View from West Sedona		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/vote-no-on-410/comment-page-1/#comment-8524</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Point of View from West Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A lot of VOC (Voice of Choice) people seem to be obsessed with the fact that ADOT has proposed installing 108 lights on 89A.
 
 1)  The number 108 is considered sacred in many Eastern religions.

 2)  The distance of Sun from Earth divided by the diameter of Sun is approximately 108. The distance of Moon from Earth divided by the diameter of Moon is approximately equal to 108. It is claimed that the great sires of Vedante knew of this relationship and thus 108 is very important.

  3)  In Japan at the end of the year a bell is chimed 108 x&#039;s in temples to finish the old year and welcome the new one.

  4) The pre-historic monument Stonehenge is about 108&#039; in diameter.

  5)  According to Ayurveda there are 108 pressure points in the body.

  6)  An official Major League baseball has 108 stitches.

  7) There are 108 cards in a deck of UNO.

  8) Volume expansion of freezing water is roughly 108%.

  9) The British television series &quot;DOCTOR WHO&quot; has exactly 108 missing episodes.

10) There are 108 beads on a Mala for repetitions of a mantra.

11) The number 108 is used in Islam to refer to GOD.
 
If this issue is really about the installation of 108 lights on 89A then I say Sedona could go down in the record books for having the foresight to install 108 &quot;dark sky compliant&quot; lights on a five (5) mile stretch of road and there must be someone looking after us to come up with the number 108.  We should be praising GOD and thanking ADOT for helping &quot;LIGHT&quot; the way for the &quot;LOST&quot; travelers along Sedona&#039;s dark and lonely stretch of 89A by adding 108 very important lights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of VOC (Voice of Choice) people seem to be obsessed with the fact that ADOT has proposed installing 108 lights on 89A.</p>
<p> 1)  The number 108 is considered sacred in many Eastern religions.</p>
<p> 2)  The distance of Sun from Earth divided by the diameter of Sun is approximately 108. The distance of Moon from Earth divided by the diameter of Moon is approximately equal to 108. It is claimed that the great sires of Vedante knew of this relationship and thus 108 is very important.</p>
<p>  3)  In Japan at the end of the year a bell is chimed 108 x&#8217;s in temples to finish the old year and welcome the new one.</p>
<p>  4) The pre-historic monument Stonehenge is about 108&#8242; in diameter.</p>
<p>  5)  According to Ayurveda there are 108 pressure points in the body.</p>
<p>  6)  An official Major League baseball has 108 stitches.</p>
<p>  7) There are 108 cards in a deck of UNO.</p>
<p>  8) Volume expansion of freezing water is roughly 108%.</p>
<p>  9) The British television series &#8220;DOCTOR WHO&#8221; has exactly 108 missing episodes.</p>
<p>10) There are 108 beads on a Mala for repetitions of a mantra.</p>
<p>11) The number 108 is used in Islam to refer to GOD.</p>
<p>If this issue is really about the installation of 108 lights on 89A then I say Sedona could go down in the record books for having the foresight to install 108 &#8220;dark sky compliant&#8221; lights on a five (5) mile stretch of road and there must be someone looking after us to come up with the number 108.  We should be praising GOD and thanking ADOT for helping &#8220;LIGHT&#8221; the way for the &#8220;LOST&#8221; travelers along Sedona&#8217;s dark and lonely stretch of 89A by adding 108 very important lights.</p>
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		By: Liz Smith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 15:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddie - Well said and your views reflect the opinion of many of the residents that signed the petition. A repetitive point was that they had supported Litrell and slate for city council then felt betrayed by the same council members when they calculating went after ownership of Hwy 89A the minute they were elected. 

During the campaign Litrell and slate were pointedly asked if they would support ownership of Hwy 89A and repeatedly they stated NO.

Now councilors Litrell and Hamilton have spent months telling the community that we will have a choice on exactly what we want Hwy 89A to look like and that we have plenty of money. No remorse for their lies, no respect for us as residents of this fine city!

 If you voice a different opinion than Litrell and Hamilton you are informed by them that you are uninformed and need to be “educated”. How insulting, as If we are children that are incapable of forming our own opinions and need them to tell us how to vote and think!

These councilors have lost my support and my future vote as they have done exactly what they accused the last council of doing, ignoring the Will of the People, twisting the facts to fit their own agenda and saying anything that will turn a voter to their view.

What can we do as mere residents? 
 VOTE NO 410! No to Ownership of Hwy 89A.

 Tell your neighbors and friends about the urgency of voting on this issue and the extreme financial burden Sedona will carry for generations to come if we own Hwy 89A.

 Keep informed at www.savesedonanow.wordpress.com

I also recomend the group Let The People Vote On 89A at www.letthepeoplevoteon89a.com for information.

Liz Smith]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie &#8211; Well said and your views reflect the opinion of many of the residents that signed the petition. A repetitive point was that they had supported Litrell and slate for city council then felt betrayed by the same council members when they calculating went after ownership of Hwy 89A the minute they were elected. </p>
<p>During the campaign Litrell and slate were pointedly asked if they would support ownership of Hwy 89A and repeatedly they stated NO.</p>
<p>Now councilors Litrell and Hamilton have spent months telling the community that we will have a choice on exactly what we want Hwy 89A to look like and that we have plenty of money. No remorse for their lies, no respect for us as residents of this fine city!</p>
<p> If you voice a different opinion than Litrell and Hamilton you are informed by them that you are uninformed and need to be “educated”. How insulting, as If we are children that are incapable of forming our own opinions and need them to tell us how to vote and think!</p>
<p>These councilors have lost my support and my future vote as they have done exactly what they accused the last council of doing, ignoring the Will of the People, twisting the facts to fit their own agenda and saying anything that will turn a voter to their view.</p>
<p>What can we do as mere residents?<br />
 VOTE NO 410! No to Ownership of Hwy 89A.</p>
<p> Tell your neighbors and friends about the urgency of voting on this issue and the extreme financial burden Sedona will carry for generations to come if we own Hwy 89A.</p>
<p> Keep informed at <a href="http://www.savesedonanow.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.savesedonanow.wordpress.com</a></p>
<p>I also recomend the group Let The People Vote On 89A at <a href="http://www.letthepeoplevoteon89a.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.letthepeoplevoteon89a.com</a> for information.</p>
<p>Liz Smith</p>
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