Comments on: VOCA Receives Attorney Letter of Bylaw and Statute Violations

By: @Elizabethvoc

@Elizabethvoc — Tue, 10 Nov 2015 00:23:24 +0000

The status is we have been waiting since June to hear from you Elizabeth….
Where have you been and what have you done for us lately?
“Voca neighbors pleads fall of deaf ears” will be the title of the next article.
Stay tuned.

By: Elizabeth voc

Elizabeth voc — Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:25:41 +0000

What’s the status of all this please?

By: VOCA board recall committee forming

VOCA board recall committee forming — Sat, 11 Jul 2015 13:38:20 +0000

An update to the denial from the VOCA board regarding the attorney letter: Some Member Alliance homeowners drove to Phoenix last week to talk with an attorney. The cost for the attorney to assist in the VOCA board recall is a very reasonable $1750. There will be other costs involved to educate VOCA homeowners about the importance of recalling the current board and replacing the board members with more considerate and compliant folks. A committee is being organized. To join, please contact MemberAlliance@use.startmail.com

By: Providing an amenity to the entire area

Providing an amenity to the entire area — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:48:57 +0000

To Not fooling me…
The county has ordinances for noise, fence and building heights, builds and maintains our roads, provides law enforcement, etc. They do not mandate what color to paint your house, though. So we need VOCA to be sure we don’t end up living next to a purple house, right?

In addition to telling people what color to paint their house, for our $420,000 we get to subsidize a golf course and golf restaurant. There is an estimate that less than 200 VOCA members are golf members. WE, the 2300+ VOCA members, must subsidize their entertainment as well as provide this “amenity” to the entire tourist area, right?

The VOCA budget clearly proves the homeowners subsidize the restaurant. There would likely be no restaurant without the golf course. The golf course pays an allocation to the HOA (hard to tell how much from the confusing budget but it seems to be around $50,000). In return for the small allocation, the golf course gets the restaurant, the use of the community building (and all the expenses for the building), and the use of the land for the golf course, all owned by the HOA. Surely you are willing to pay $420,000 for that!

The claim that the golf course is “financially independent” means what? How can the golf course not be costing the HOA? If the HOA and the funding from the HOA went away, could the golf course afford the restaurant and the building and the land? VOCA must continue to support the golf course, right?

Imagine what your own subdivision could do with the money you are paying VOCA. Some subdivisions are large enough that they generate over $40,000 per year for VOCA. They could hire their own full time manager to ensure their property values and deal with noisy neighbors and make sure no one paints their house purple.

Is VOCA and the controversial board really protecting YOUR investment or are they just fooling you?

By: Not fooling me

Not fooling me — Thu, 18 Jun 2015 02:18:37 +0000

Did you get your VOCA annual assessment bill with the info from the board? Don’t believe them when they say Hoamco is saving money. They didn’t tell you that we were paying Tony Rizzo severance during the first part of 2014. Comparing apples to oranges is a trick they like to use. Also, the budget does NOT show $60,000 in savings. The HOA reserve balance was $557,336 at the end of August 2014 but only $543,554 at the end of April 2015. What are we getting for our $420,000? Is that what it costs to avoid talking to your neighbors and sorting out your own neighborhood?

By: Barb

Barb — Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:58:00 +0000

Eleanor: Yes, the climate in any community is important to the value of the property in the community as well as the well being of the property owners. That is why we must not stand by and allow the current VOCA board to continue the deceitful and bullying tactics they employ. Please sign the recall petition as soon as we have it prepared by the attorney.

By: POLICY AT VOCA

POLICY AT VOCA — Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:04:14 +0000

They have a policy book that works around the bylaws so they can act without association knowledge or APPROVAL.

By: Barb

Barb — Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:11:39 +0000

We are close to the appointment with the attorney. Hoping to get the recall petitions circulated soon. Thanks for your patience. We want to be certain we have a correct petition.

By: Eleanor Cohen

Eleanor Cohen — Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:55:29 +0000

I own a rental property in VOC and live in Sedona. I get nothing, of which I’m aware, for my VOC dues and in addition have to pay HOA dues for which I get very little. Oh yes and than there is a property management fee. Because of all this low return expense the Village is not a very good place for investment and I would not recommend buying rental property in this location. Not only is it a no win for the homeowners, but a bad business investment. Not a good climate for the community. Yes, please sell the golf course.

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:57:54 +0000

thanks for info