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		By: VOCA Homeowner		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-neighbors-form-new-community-association/comment-page-1/#comment-111027</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VOCA Homeowner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2015 17:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SEDONA GOLF RESORT SPEED LIMIT

There have been recent reports of cars exceeding the speed limit and driving dangerously in SGRCA neighborhoods. If you witness this type of incident, it is recommended that you call the Yavapai County Sheriff’s Department dispatch line at 649-6449, extension 0.

The speed limit within Sedona Golf Resort is 25 MPH. While it may be difficult to maintain this speed, it is necessary for safety reasons and due to our narrow roads.]]></description>
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<p>There have been recent reports of cars exceeding the speed limit and driving dangerously in SGRCA neighborhoods. If you witness this type of incident, it is recommended that you call the Yavapai County Sheriff’s Department dispatch line at 649-6449, extension 0.</p>
<p>The speed limit within Sedona Golf Resort is 25 MPH. While it may be difficult to maintain this speed, it is necessary for safety reasons and due to our narrow roads.</p>
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		By: Strength in Community		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-neighbors-form-new-community-association/comment-page-1/#comment-107362</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Strength in Community]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This section of the BPDWWID was passed November 19, 2013:

Section 401.A – Mandatory Connection Any property within the boundaries of the District, with a sewer mainline running adjacent to or within 100 feet of the property is required to connect to the District wastewater system in accordance with the provisions of this Ordinance. 

This was a standing room only meeting and people were told it had nothing to do with unsewered areas. Most people left. We feel it has everything to do with unsewered areas.

We are not opposed to sewer. We are against mandatory connection. We have been given conflicting answers about no one ever being forced to hook up in 42 years. Only new construction and failed will be required to hook up, if a new assessment area is formed we will be forced to hook up. It depends how you ask the question.

Unincorporated Yavapai County had not mandated sewer.

We are trying to place this topic(401.A) on the next agenda which will  be 9:30 am, Tuesday, Feb. 17 at the VOC Firehouse. Someone had to drive to Prescott with 8 copies to make a formal request and then were told to email other questions. Prescott.

Please go to:
http://www.improvementdistrictservices.com/bigparkdwwid/bpdwwidannualbudgets.html

Look at this budget.

This begs the question: Where is all the money going that our community is paying for sewer? To other cities? Other states? That is for another time.

The BPDWWID map has not been updated since 2006.  Sewer has been installed in Fairway Oaks on two lots. What does this mean to our residents?

Right now, we need to organize the subdivision, get an idea of who is opposed to forced sewer connection. We want anyone that wants sewer to have the opportunity, but for those with working septic to be able to choose to keep it. We want choice and that is very doable with all the other subdivisions that will be targeted after Fairway Oaks.

If you have received this letter, we are asking you to respond with a for or against forced sewer connection so we may attend the meeting with some statistics on behalf of the subdivision residents. We will be forming a petition for our residents of Fairway Oak in the near future.

We have a large amount of emails that were sent to be put on our list but have not yet voiced an opinion. Please respond as soon as possible.  If you have responded, please do so again. We will alert you when the agenda item is placed.  We are asking for support and attendance for this upcoming meeting.

Thank You.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This section of the BPDWWID was passed November 19, 2013:</p>
<p>Section 401.A – Mandatory Connection Any property within the boundaries of the District, with a sewer mainline running adjacent to or within 100 feet of the property is required to connect to the District wastewater system in accordance with the provisions of this Ordinance. </p>
<p>This was a standing room only meeting and people were told it had nothing to do with unsewered areas. Most people left. We feel it has everything to do with unsewered areas.</p>
<p>We are not opposed to sewer. We are against mandatory connection. We have been given conflicting answers about no one ever being forced to hook up in 42 years. Only new construction and failed will be required to hook up, if a new assessment area is formed we will be forced to hook up. It depends how you ask the question.</p>
<p>Unincorporated Yavapai County had not mandated sewer.</p>
<p>We are trying to place this topic(401.A) on the next agenda which will  be 9:30 am, Tuesday, Feb. 17 at the VOC Firehouse. Someone had to drive to Prescott with 8 copies to make a formal request and then were told to email other questions. Prescott.</p>
<p>Please go to:<br />
<a href="http://www.improvementdistrictservices.com/bigparkdwwid/bpdwwidannualbudgets.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.improvementdistrictservices.com/bigparkdwwid/bpdwwidannualbudgets.html</a></p>
<p>Look at this budget.</p>
<p>This begs the question: Where is all the money going that our community is paying for sewer? To other cities? Other states? That is for another time.</p>
<p>The BPDWWID map has not been updated since 2006.  Sewer has been installed in Fairway Oaks on two lots. What does this mean to our residents?</p>
<p>Right now, we need to organize the subdivision, get an idea of who is opposed to forced sewer connection. We want anyone that wants sewer to have the opportunity, but for those with working septic to be able to choose to keep it. We want choice and that is very doable with all the other subdivisions that will be targeted after Fairway Oaks.</p>
<p>If you have received this letter, we are asking you to respond with a for or against forced sewer connection so we may attend the meeting with some statistics on behalf of the subdivision residents. We will be forming a petition for our residents of Fairway Oak in the near future.</p>
<p>We have a large amount of emails that were sent to be put on our list but have not yet voiced an opinion. Please respond as soon as possible.  If you have responded, please do so again. We will alert you when the agenda item is placed.  We are asking for support and attendance for this upcoming meeting.</p>
<p>Thank You.</p>
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		By: Strength in Community		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-neighbors-form-new-community-association/comment-page-1/#comment-107118</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Strength in Community]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Strength in Community
        Feb 2
To Strength In Community

Neighbors:

Notes from other community members working under the name Member Alliance. 

Please contact this group if anyone can help by attending any meeting and taking notes. This is how we are able to keep an eye on committees and actions made. Even if you can attend one meeting every couple months, it would be a huge help. 

Please contact member alliance for more information. 

We, in Fairway Oaks have been attending other meetings beside VOCA and you would be amazed at what they share at one meeting and not the other. It is like a puzzle and  by more neighbors stepping up to do a little piece, together we can have the information we need and also hold these committees accountable. 

We all work and it is not possible for a few to attend all the meetings that need coverage in order for us to be effective. Please volunteer. Fairway Oaks Neighbors Alliance will be updating you soon on the easement request into OCC Golf Course and Fairway Oaks Subdivision. 

Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strength in Community<br />
        Feb 2<br />
To Strength In Community</p>
<p>Neighbors:</p>
<p>Notes from other community members working under the name Member Alliance. </p>
<p>Please contact this group if anyone can help by attending any meeting and taking notes. This is how we are able to keep an eye on committees and actions made. Even if you can attend one meeting every couple months, it would be a huge help. </p>
<p>Please contact member alliance for more information. </p>
<p>We, in Fairway Oaks have been attending other meetings beside VOCA and you would be amazed at what they share at one meeting and not the other. It is like a puzzle and  by more neighbors stepping up to do a little piece, together we can have the information we need and also hold these committees accountable. </p>
<p>We all work and it is not possible for a few to attend all the meetings that need coverage in order for us to be effective. Please volunteer. Fairway Oaks Neighbors Alliance will be updating you soon on the easement request into OCC Golf Course and Fairway Oaks Subdivision. </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		By: VOCA Members Alliance		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-neighbors-form-new-community-association/comment-page-1/#comment-107116</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VOCA Members Alliance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 16:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Subject: 	notes from VOCA board meeting January 28, 2015
From: 	memberalliance@use.startmail.com
Date: 	Sun, February 1, 2015 09:08
To: 	memberalliance@use.startmail.com
 
I apologize if this is a second email with this information. I also apologize if you are receiving this and you do not want it. You are being sent this via a request that you made to receive VOCA information.

Some additional notes:
1. Mary Ann Waldron voted NO to the motion to extend the restaurant inventory payment of $3800. It was due on February 3 and the other board members voted to extend the due date to March 30. The attached notes indicate Waldron abstained. Waldron emailed the correction. Apparently she is quite concerned that members are informed she vote NO. 

2. Waldron insisted the date for the member forum is April 7. A letter was sent to the board asking for them to reconsider the late date and schedule the forum to time with the receipt of the ballots. Holding a forum so late (about a month AFTER the ballots are received) is a waste of time, in my opinion. They were told that last year after a the low attendance forum. A huge percentage of ballots had been returned before the forum last year. A very direct email reply from Waldron stated again, the date is April 7. 

We should consider holding our own forum with the candidates. Suggestion is to wait until we find out who the candidates are. If we end up with the two board members whose terms are expiring running again and the third a cohort.... we might as well stop trying to make things better.

PLEASE spread the word that we need fair and reasonable people to apply to be a candidate. Even if we just get several people to allow for real conversation during the election process, we NEED candidates. 

3. Notice in the notes that the sewer easement was not voted on and there were statements made that clearly indicate conversations by board members went on behind the scenes. Business as usual, they meet in ways that circumvent the open meeting laws and by laws or just plain violate them.

The next board meeting is labeled as a &quot;work session.&quot; Nothing in the state laws or bylaws that allows the board to prohibit members from commenting at a &quot;work session.&quot; It is still a meeting of the board and members are entitled to comment on every agenda item at board meetings. But it is doubtful the board will allow members to speak. The topic is &quot;changes to the policies.&quot; The policies are supposedly allowed under the bylaws because the board can create &quot;rules.&quot; This board and other boards have used this to create policies that, in some opinions, circumvent the bylaws and state laws.

Thank you for your interest.
Member Alliance]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subject: 	notes from VOCA board meeting January 28, 2015<br />
From: 	<a href="mailto:memberalliance@use.startmail.com">memberalliance@use.startmail.com</a><br />
Date: 	Sun, February 1, 2015 09:08<br />
To: 	<a href="mailto:memberalliance@use.startmail.com">memberalliance@use.startmail.com</a></p>
<p>I apologize if this is a second email with this information. I also apologize if you are receiving this and you do not want it. You are being sent this via a request that you made to receive VOCA information.</p>
<p>Some additional notes:<br />
1. Mary Ann Waldron voted NO to the motion to extend the restaurant inventory payment of $3800. It was due on February 3 and the other board members voted to extend the due date to March 30. The attached notes indicate Waldron abstained. Waldron emailed the correction. Apparently she is quite concerned that members are informed she vote NO. </p>
<p>2. Waldron insisted the date for the member forum is April 7. A letter was sent to the board asking for them to reconsider the late date and schedule the forum to time with the receipt of the ballots. Holding a forum so late (about a month AFTER the ballots are received) is a waste of time, in my opinion. They were told that last year after a the low attendance forum. A huge percentage of ballots had been returned before the forum last year. A very direct email reply from Waldron stated again, the date is April 7. </p>
<p>We should consider holding our own forum with the candidates. Suggestion is to wait until we find out who the candidates are. If we end up with the two board members whose terms are expiring running again and the third a cohort&#8230;. we might as well stop trying to make things better.</p>
<p>PLEASE spread the word that we need fair and reasonable people to apply to be a candidate. Even if we just get several people to allow for real conversation during the election process, we NEED candidates. </p>
<p>3. Notice in the notes that the sewer easement was not voted on and there were statements made that clearly indicate conversations by board members went on behind the scenes. Business as usual, they meet in ways that circumvent the open meeting laws and by laws or just plain violate them.</p>
<p>The next board meeting is labeled as a &#8220;work session.&#8221; Nothing in the state laws or bylaws that allows the board to prohibit members from commenting at a &#8220;work session.&#8221; It is still a meeting of the board and members are entitled to comment on every agenda item at board meetings. But it is doubtful the board will allow members to speak. The topic is &#8220;changes to the policies.&#8221; The policies are supposedly allowed under the bylaws because the board can create &#8220;rules.&#8221; This board and other boards have used this to create policies that, in some opinions, circumvent the bylaws and state laws.</p>
<p>Thank you for your interest.<br />
Member Alliance</p>
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		By: sharlett		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-neighbors-form-new-community-association/comment-page-1/#comment-106188</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sharlett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2015 02:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To NY, NY: Wish you would move to Sedona and wait out the residency requirements and then run for Council in City of Sedona!  You make more sense than anyone who is on our Council or those folks &quot;running&quot; the VOC!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To NY, NY: Wish you would move to Sedona and wait out the residency requirements and then run for Council in City of Sedona!  You make more sense than anyone who is on our Council or those folks &#8220;running&#8221; the VOC!</p>
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		By: NY NY Subscriber		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NY NY Subscriber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good morning. Miss or Mrs or Ms Stein, have you read the comments from top to bottom?  Avail yourself.  Have you read comments to other articles? Avail yourself.  The dialog here would never have happened without the open door politics and community spirit of this publication and its readers. I&#039;ve read many articles and comments like yours that defame or degrade this publication and still they print it. Why? Let&#039;s call that what it is. Guts. Correct me if wrong but why are you degrading the hands that feed your brain?  Courage takes many forms. As a minority there is no greater threat than the loss of free speech and religion in America and both are worth fighting to preserve at any cost. Others may prefer a socialist progressive agenda and that is a right in this country, but its a false bill of goods for me in America. Thanks should be your words for this publication, thanks you are being given an opportunity to disparage and point words outward. Feel good about the conversational value in the search for truth. Support it.  Dick Rosen NYC]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning. Miss or Mrs or Ms Stein, have you read the comments from top to bottom?  Avail yourself.  Have you read comments to other articles? Avail yourself.  The dialog here would never have happened without the open door politics and community spirit of this publication and its readers. I&#8217;ve read many articles and comments like yours that defame or degrade this publication and still they print it. Why? Let&#8217;s call that what it is. Guts. Correct me if wrong but why are you degrading the hands that feed your brain?  Courage takes many forms. As a minority there is no greater threat than the loss of free speech and religion in America and both are worth fighting to preserve at any cost. Others may prefer a socialist progressive agenda and that is a right in this country, but its a false bill of goods for me in America. Thanks should be your words for this publication, thanks you are being given an opportunity to disparage and point words outward. Feel good about the conversational value in the search for truth. Support it.  Dick Rosen NYC</p>
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		By: Wait six years, Judy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wait six years, Judy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2015 20:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I moved to Sedona, I was told you needed to live here six years before you opened your mouth or voiced an opinion. That was good advice as it turned out.

You have moved into what is known as &quot;the village of old creeps&quot;, you must never open your mouth or voice an opinion, just sweep issues under the carpet. I think you will like it there.  

Welcome to the dark side. Take up golfing, it is very inexpensive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I moved to Sedona, I was told you needed to live here six years before you opened your mouth or voiced an opinion. That was good advice as it turned out.</p>
<p>You have moved into what is known as &#8220;the village of old creeps&#8221;, you must never open your mouth or voice an opinion, just sweep issues under the carpet. I think you will like it there.  </p>
<p>Welcome to the dark side. Take up golfing, it is very inexpensive.</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-neighbors-form-new-community-association/comment-page-1/#comment-106135</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2015 18:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Judy Stein -- Have you tried the Sedona Red Rock News? Everything there is very simple, just like the Weekly Reader we got in second grade. You&#039;ll like it I&#039;m sure. No &quot;distracting postings&quot; at all, and letters to the editor are heavily censored to ensure that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Judy Stein &#8212; Have you tried the Sedona Red Rock News? Everything there is very simple, just like the Weekly Reader we got in second grade. You&#8217;ll like it I&#8217;m sure. No &#8220;distracting postings&#8221; at all, and letters to the editor are heavily censored to ensure that.</p>
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		By: Judy Stein		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-neighbors-form-new-community-association/comment-page-1/#comment-106130</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Judy Stein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good morning folks. I am new to SedonaEye having just moved here from. I was told by my VOC neighbor how important this site is to inform my husband and me about the issues in my new community. After reading this article, I see my neighbors were wrong, with distracting postings, it hardly seems worth my time. I wish you folks would stick to the facts. We have some very important issues facing the VOC and need a stable outlet of info]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning folks. I am new to SedonaEye having just moved here from. I was told by my VOC neighbor how important this site is to inform my husband and me about the issues in my new community. After reading this article, I see my neighbors were wrong, with distracting postings, it hardly seems worth my time. I wish you folks would stick to the facts. We have some very important issues facing the VOC and need a stable outlet of info</p>
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		By: People get sidetracked		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-neighbors-form-new-community-association/comment-page-1/#comment-106094</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[People get sidetracked]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It has nothing to do with Sedona politics either but freedom of speech prevails. Obviously this is a troubling concern to someone.
Just like JO JOhn who can read an entire intelligent article and reply like he did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has nothing to do with Sedona politics either but freedom of speech prevails. Obviously this is a troubling concern to someone.<br />
Just like JO JOhn who can read an entire intelligent article and reply like he did.</p>
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