Comments on: VOCA Board Recall Committee Forming

By: Member Alliance

Member Alliance — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 02:17:32 +0000

We may go door to door with the petition but it would be best to mail or email and ask for a sheet you can sign. If the board follows through with plans to gut the bylaws and give themselves more power, people better sit up and pay attention. Recall them now before they take even more power and wield it over us.

By: Don, VOC

Don, VOC — Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:16:20 +0000

Are you coming to each house? Some of us can’t get around that easy. Go to each house & ask for signatures! And bring some talking points.

By: steve Segner

steve Segner — Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:36:34 +0000

Not my Neighborhood says:
I think the fire department looked at the plans but more has been added and plans to build on the other side. Meanwhile, other neighbors are building with no permits.

Just call the county building Dept, they will stop it, you just need to ask and re ask.

By: Just a thought...

Just a thought... — Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:08:36 +0000

Annex into the City of Sedona. They have codes and personnel to enforce them. Then all of these VOC issues go away! It’s really quite simple.

By: Not my Neighborhood

Not my Neighborhood — Tue, 11 Aug 2015 21:47:32 +0000

They are letting complaint lots grow 4-5 feet tall with no cutting. They are also openly violating our ccr’s with dangerously close building and waiving of heights and setbacks. I think the fire department looked at the plans but more has been added and plans to build on the other side. Meanwhile, other neighbors are building with no permits.
I have seen lots go unattended since 2013 and The weekend builders all show up installing unapproved septic and sewer when no one is watching. Its a free for all here.

By: VOCA intimidation

VOCA intimidation — Tue, 11 Aug 2015 01:47:28 +0000

Even though homeowners were told there were “no plans to change” compliance under the management company, VOCA has a “NEW” PROACTIVE approach toward “vacant lot maintenance, home and yard maintenance, trash in and around property, storage of vehicles on property.” The Board, not the Restrictions Committee, now has power to enforce whatever the manager or the board wants to act on. One homeowner already got a threatening letter: Clear your weeds within TEN days of the date of the letter or get FINED. The property had a small handful of grass in the gravel. UNREASONABLE time to comply and UNREASONABLE complaint. PROACTIVE and UNREASONABLE. Anyone else received notices?? Going to be away from home for a few days? Better make sure someone is reading your mail in case you get a “letter” with less than 10 days to act.

By: WHERE DO I SIGN?

WHERE DO I SIGN? — Sat, 08 Aug 2015 21:00:30 +0000

We have been waiting since this board forgave a years rent from the restaurant after emptying the coffers to renovate to see this come to fruition.
Hoping they will all be gone and moved away very soon. We don’t need your kind here.

By: VOCA board recall petitions ready

VOCA board recall petitions ready — Sat, 08 Aug 2015 15:03:11 +0000

The VOCA board recall committee has petitions ready for signatures. Contact us for your copy to print and sign. We need about 250 signatures. One signature per lot is allowed per the VOCA bylaws. MemberAlliance@use.startmail.com or mail to Member Alliance, PO Box 20453, Sedona AZ 86341.

By: member alliance

member alliance — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:59:38 +0000

Update opinion about recall:

1. The VOCA board continues to be unresponsive or bullying to those who disagree with them.

2. Recall is the only option to stop the false and contradictory information being distributed to members.

3. Spending continues to increase. Tens of thousands of dollars from the reserve funds (HOA and golf) have been spent. Recalling this board is our only hope of reducing spending, reducing or not increasing assessments, and getting honest answers about where $412,000 of OUR money is going.

4. Recall is necessary to limit board control and stop unchecked power.

In the annual letter to lot owners, statements about savings were made. Yet the financial reports for 2015 indicate the HOA department is not meeting the budget. The golf department income is over budget but none of the profit will likely be transferred to the HOA side. When it suits the message, the golf and HOA department bottom lines are combined. It makes for an impressive total. Yet, the departments are supposedly separate financially. This is intentional confusion, in the opinion of many.

The restaurant (that likely only exists because there is a golf course) continues to be subsidized by the homeowners.

Examples of confusing and contradictory information distributed by the board:

February FAQ, 2014: 2014 budgeted payroll costs, $336,000. Homaco will save VOCA $49,000.
October FAQ, 2014: 2014 budgeted payroll costs, $349,571. Homaco will save VOCA $78,571.
October meeting 2014: 2014 budgeted payroll costs, $334,911. Hoamco will save VOCA $82,111 in 2015. AND a board member said, “Don’t you want to see $82,000 go into the reserve fund?”

The board has refused to provide a line item comparison for the statements comparing the 2014 costs and Hoamco. It appears they could not calculate the costs accurately since the figures keep changing. BUT…

The 2015 budget shows $33,000 total profit for the HOA department and $7,379 for the golf department. WHERE is this $82,111??

June 2015 finance report: HOA department income continues to fall short. HOA Capital Expenditures for June were $33,608. This includes carpet, paint and stucco for the building used by the golf department and restaurant. The expenditure includes a door for the restaurant. Many homeowners do NOT want to subsidize the restaurant or the golf course.

More examples of confusing and contradictory information:

October FAQ, 2014: How will CCR compliance be handled under Hoamco? The process will remain the same. … NO policy change is currently being contemplated.
ARRC meeting, July 2, 2015: Discussed draft fine policy and NEW proactive compliance policy. …Committee chair (board member) recommends that the compliance not be under the ARC Committee, instead as a policy under BOD direction….

If you trust this board, then you get what you deserve. If you don’t trust this board and want to stop the madness, join the recall.

NEXT meeting is Thursday, August 6. Contact us for location.

MemberAlliance@use.startmail.com or mail to Member Alliance, PO Box 20453, Sedona AZ 86341.

By: David, VOC

David, VOC — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:27:54 +0000

How’d it go yesterday? How about an update?