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		By: Barb		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-board-election-voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-110538</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2015 05:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a notice on the VOCA bulletin board:
Emergency Executive VOCA Board Session
April 24, 2015 at 2:30pm
VOCA Community Center - Board Room
Agenda
1. Legal advice, pending/contemplated litigation

Note: The board voted in a $50,000 litigation contingency fund. One board member indicated the fund could be used to sue homeowners or the county or some other utility, for example, we might want to &quot;sue a homeowner for slander.&quot; 

Will you all stand by and allow the board to sue homeowners? How much bullying and intimidate is too much? If it isn&#039;t you, why should you care, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a notice on the VOCA bulletin board:<br />
Emergency Executive VOCA Board Session<br />
April 24, 2015 at 2:30pm<br />
VOCA Community Center &#8211; Board Room<br />
Agenda<br />
1. Legal advice, pending/contemplated litigation</p>
<p>Note: The board voted in a $50,000 litigation contingency fund. One board member indicated the fund could be used to sue homeowners or the county or some other utility, for example, we might want to &#8220;sue a homeowner for slander.&#8221; </p>
<p>Will you all stand by and allow the board to sue homeowners? How much bullying and intimidate is too much? If it isn&#8217;t you, why should you care, right?</p>
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		By: @UNREAL VOCA Owner		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-board-election-voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-110501</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@UNREAL VOCA Owner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2015 17:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes and right after the meeting Kautz started voicing concern/crying/preparing us about the very budget he approved and gloated about is already failing. I&#039;m glad they both won because they are going to have to live with their actions up close and personal. I&#039;ll come to the meetings just to watch them squirm.

549 top vote out of 2300 voters is not a huge turnout. And then there are the people  counting the votes?????? The very people violating out bylaws.

Did they tell you in the board action report about the sewer easement attempt across the golf course that they did not have any right to address because the BPDWWID ordinances had not been followed and VOCA did not know it. Or did they? If people were not paying attention they would have torn that up. No one knows who owns the easement bringing in treated wastewater. Did VOCA just agreed to maintain it? Do you want to talk money?
No.

Did you hear that Hoamco wants to raise fees already.? The only thing protecting your wonderful  180.00 per year assessment is they are tied down with a contract until 2017. Then , my friend you are screwed.

Give me a break, REAL Voca homeowner, you have no idea what you are talking about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and right after the meeting Kautz started voicing concern/crying/preparing us about the very budget he approved and gloated about is already failing. I&#8217;m glad they both won because they are going to have to live with their actions up close and personal. I&#8217;ll come to the meetings just to watch them squirm.</p>
<p>549 top vote out of 2300 voters is not a huge turnout. And then there are the people  counting the votes?????? The very people violating out bylaws.</p>
<p>Did they tell you in the board action report about the sewer easement attempt across the golf course that they did not have any right to address because the BPDWWID ordinances had not been followed and VOCA did not know it. Or did they? If people were not paying attention they would have torn that up. No one knows who owns the easement bringing in treated wastewater. Did VOCA just agreed to maintain it? Do you want to talk money?<br />
No.</p>
<p>Did you hear that Hoamco wants to raise fees already.? The only thing protecting your wonderful  180.00 per year assessment is they are tied down with a contract until 2017. Then , my friend you are screwed.</p>
<p>Give me a break, REAL Voca homeowner, you have no idea what you are talking about.</p>
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		By: RealVOCAowner		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-board-election-voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-110459</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RealVOCAowner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2015 03:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Despite some pitiful efforts (POSTCARDS!!!, really??!?!?) , Kautz got 59% of the vote and Jansen got 56%.  Conclusion is that most VOCA property owners want change (which they are getting) and fiscal resposibility (which they&#039;ve gotten).  I agree with CJ that apathy is evident, but  those who care enough to vote trust Kautz and Jansen and voted for them. I believe it&#039;s time to find something else to complain about.  VOCA has become a non-issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite some pitiful efforts (POSTCARDS!!!, really??!?!?) , Kautz got 59% of the vote and Jansen got 56%.  Conclusion is that most VOCA property owners want change (which they are getting) and fiscal resposibility (which they&#8217;ve gotten).  I agree with CJ that apathy is evident, but  those who care enough to vote trust Kautz and Jansen and voted for them. I believe it&#8217;s time to find something else to complain about.  VOCA has become a non-issue.</p>
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		By: Barb		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-board-election-voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-110447</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2015 23:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The incumbents were re-elected. 
3 year term: Earl Sevvingston
3 year term: Jim Kautz, incumbent
2 year term: Joe Jansen, incumbent
Thanks to Rick Comfort and Jan Lisowski for trying to make a change in the board. The votes were pretty close.
Continue to be watchful. The board is on notice. They need to follow the bylaws and state statutes or.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The incumbents were re-elected.<br />
3 year term: Earl Sevvingston<br />
3 year term: Jim Kautz, incumbent<br />
2 year term: Joe Jansen, incumbent<br />
Thanks to Rick Comfort and Jan Lisowski for trying to make a change in the board. The votes were pretty close.<br />
Continue to be watchful. The board is on notice. They need to follow the bylaws and state statutes or&#8230;..</p>
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		By: CJ		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-board-election-voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-109947</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 16:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Most folks don&#039;t even know that the yearly ballot does not pass by majority.  The formula is based on &quot;minimum&quot; votes to carry as a legal ballot, and only a small minority can carry the outcome.  Most voters eligble do not vote, thereby giving the minority who want power the opportunity to stuff the ballot box.  Apathy is the main ingredient that is undermining the HOA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most folks don&#8217;t even know that the yearly ballot does not pass by majority.  The formula is based on &#8220;minimum&#8221; votes to carry as a legal ballot, and only a small minority can carry the outcome.  Most voters eligble do not vote, thereby giving the minority who want power the opportunity to stuff the ballot box.  Apathy is the main ingredient that is undermining the HOA.</p>
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		By: Barb		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-board-election-voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-109919</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please vote for Jan, Earl and Rick. Jim and Joe are the incumbents. It is important to send a message that we will not stand for behind closed door decisions. We have the right by law and by VOCA bylaws to see them in action. When I was first on the board, Joe told me that he would NOT have board meetings at the VOCA building because there were &quot;no secrets&quot; there. Well, we don&#039;t want &quot;secrets.&quot; We want open and honest decision-making where our concerns matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please vote for Jan, Earl and Rick. Jim and Joe are the incumbents. It is important to send a message that we will not stand for behind closed door decisions. We have the right by law and by VOCA bylaws to see them in action. When I was first on the board, Joe told me that he would NOT have board meetings at the VOCA building because there were &#8220;no secrets&#8221; there. Well, we don&#8217;t want &#8220;secrets.&#8221; We want open and honest decision-making where our concerns matter.</p>
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		By: Villager		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-board-election-voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-109907</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Villager]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2015 16:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Karen:
little Jimmy Kautz? revisit that by looking at the numbers.............

The VILLAGER is the indirect mouth piece for Supervisor Davis. They will not print anything knowingly &quot;controversial&quot;/truth  which goes against implementing an easy agenda.  Verde News-same thing.

The Big Park Council-same thing. Some members have been asked to sit silently on the council so that agendas can be run through like the Verde Lynx.
 
Clean up VOCA, you clean up half of Big Park.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Karen:<br />
little Jimmy Kautz? revisit that by looking at the numbers&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>The VILLAGER is the indirect mouth piece for Supervisor Davis. They will not print anything knowingly &#8220;controversial&#8221;/truth  which goes against implementing an easy agenda.  Verde News-same thing.</p>
<p>The Big Park Council-same thing. Some members have been asked to sit silently on the council so that agendas can be run through like the Verde Lynx.</p>
<p>Clean up VOCA, you clean up half of Big Park.</p>
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		By: Karen, VOC		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-board-election-voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-109905</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen, VOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2015 03:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m supporting Jim Kautz, Earl Svenningsen and Rick Comfort. We need transparency. Jim, Earl and Rick it&#039;s our right not the board&#039;s privilege. There&#039;s a lot to do to improve what&#039;s going on and nobody reads Villager, why waste paper on the villager when post office recycles most!!!???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m supporting Jim Kautz, Earl Svenningsen and Rick Comfort. We need transparency. Jim, Earl and Rick it&#8217;s our right not the board&#8217;s privilege. There&#8217;s a lot to do to improve what&#8217;s going on and nobody reads Villager, why waste paper on the villager when post office recycles most!!!???</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-board-election-voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-109903</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2015 23:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was reading several articles and made my comment to the wrong one! Please accept my apologies.   This is the right place now. ------

Remember that ballots were sent out March 18 and due back no later than 2 PM on April 18 !!!!!! Did you get yours? Did you mail yours or drop yours off?

Send it back by mail or take it to the VOCA office at 690 Bell Rock Blvd. Ask for a signed receipt?

Go meet the candidates on April 7 from 4 to 6 PM at the VOCA office on Bell Rock Blvd. Make your voice heard !!!!!

I’m not voting for Kautz or Jansen, they lost my vote with the current fiasco and financial chaos. I will vote for 3 new faces !!!! This isn’t a kingdom and we don’t need kings and queens deciding what our pockets and households do.

Please vote. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading several articles and made my comment to the wrong one! Please accept my apologies.   This is the right place now. &#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Remember that ballots were sent out March 18 and due back no later than 2 PM on April 18 !!!!!! Did you get yours? Did you mail yours or drop yours off?</p>
<p>Send it back by mail or take it to the VOCA office at 690 Bell Rock Blvd. Ask for a signed receipt?</p>
<p>Go meet the candidates on April 7 from 4 to 6 PM at the VOCA office on Bell Rock Blvd. Make your voice heard !!!!!</p>
<p>I’m not voting for Kautz or Jansen, they lost my vote with the current fiasco and financial chaos. I will vote for 3 new faces !!!! This isn’t a kingdom and we don’t need kings and queens deciding what our pockets and households do.</p>
<p>Please vote. Thanks.</p>
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		By: Stan		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/voca-board-election-voting-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-109846</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2015 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Barb and Bob and all the others for being activists for us. Please vote these scoundrels out of office or hold them accountability whichever you want to say is easiest. Thank you. Please please vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Barb and Bob and all the others for being activists for us. Please vote these scoundrels out of office or hold them accountability whichever you want to say is easiest. Thank you. Please please vote.</p>
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