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		By: Oh Really????		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oh Really????]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[@What wrong with you people??

You should look closely into the mirror. It&#039;s people like you that make this city a nasty place as it is. Allow me to dissect your rant:

Someone got hurt on the job doing an activity not required by the job BBQ. - When you go to work or when you used to go to work were you allowed to have a meal break of some sort? Well firefighters across the world work mulitpal shifts and (wow surprise surprise) even get to sleep on the job so that they will be ready to respond to your medical calls ASAP. They are entitled to have one or more meals and that just may mean that they choose to BBQ their food. To think otherwise just shows your ignorance. 

All you are doing by posting retarded excuses is proving to the world that you don’t deserve to have or be a part of the government that is stuck in a 1800’s hole- You moron, these aren&#039;t excuses at all, just facts of life that you choose to ignore. 


Grow up, fix it, take responsibility for the mistake and make it better. - I&#039;m sure that Chief Kris will be sure to correct the safety issue. He&#039;s a stand up guy much more than I can say about you, the &quot;recalled&quot; ones. 



Ok I get it that is the way you do it in Sedona. Backwards and with the public paying your salaries. - OK you got me on this one, I can&#039;t for the life of me figure out what stupid comment that you are trying to get across. 


You should be world class as high as the taxes are. - What are you talking about?? Just ask the many of my friends who&#039;s lives have been saved by our SFD and tell me how they&#039;re not world class. 

I agree with Harold W. stop bringing in the tourists causing our property taxes to be high. - tourists pay a tax to receive fire and EMS service it&#039;s part of their room rate so get over it. If it weren&#039;t for those tourists (granted they don&#039;t know how to drive on a round-a-bout) you would really know what a property tax would be. 


and bring back a volunteer firefighters. I liked the volunteers back 20 years ago but that issue is dead and buried 10 times over, move along and get a life.  


If you have anything constructive to offer why not run for the fire department board and see how that works for you., oh yeah, you did that and got recalled by the biggest recall initiative in AZ history. 

THAT IS ALL....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@What wrong with you people??</p>
<p>You should look closely into the mirror. It&#8217;s people like you that make this city a nasty place as it is. Allow me to dissect your rant:</p>
<p>Someone got hurt on the job doing an activity not required by the job BBQ. &#8211; When you go to work or when you used to go to work were you allowed to have a meal break of some sort? Well firefighters across the world work mulitpal shifts and (wow surprise surprise) even get to sleep on the job so that they will be ready to respond to your medical calls ASAP. They are entitled to have one or more meals and that just may mean that they choose to BBQ their food. To think otherwise just shows your ignorance. </p>
<p>All you are doing by posting retarded excuses is proving to the world that you don’t deserve to have or be a part of the government that is stuck in a 1800’s hole- You moron, these aren&#8217;t excuses at all, just facts of life that you choose to ignore. </p>
<p>Grow up, fix it, take responsibility for the mistake and make it better. &#8211; I&#8217;m sure that Chief Kris will be sure to correct the safety issue. He&#8217;s a stand up guy much more than I can say about you, the &#8220;recalled&#8221; ones. </p>
<p>Ok I get it that is the way you do it in Sedona. Backwards and with the public paying your salaries. &#8211; OK you got me on this one, I can&#8217;t for the life of me figure out what stupid comment that you are trying to get across. </p>
<p>You should be world class as high as the taxes are. &#8211; What are you talking about?? Just ask the many of my friends who&#8217;s lives have been saved by our SFD and tell me how they&#8217;re not world class. </p>
<p>I agree with Harold W. stop bringing in the tourists causing our property taxes to be high. &#8211; tourists pay a tax to receive fire and EMS service it&#8217;s part of their room rate so get over it. If it weren&#8217;t for those tourists (granted they don&#8217;t know how to drive on a round-a-bout) you would really know what a property tax would be. </p>
<p>and bring back a volunteer firefighters. I liked the volunteers back 20 years ago but that issue is dead and buried 10 times over, move along and get a life.  </p>
<p>If you have anything constructive to offer why not run for the fire department board and see how that works for you., oh yeah, you did that and got recalled by the biggest recall initiative in AZ history. </p>
<p>THAT IS ALL&#8230;.</p>
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		By: What wrong with you people?		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What wrong with you people?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 16:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is clear that something is wrong with you people. Someone got hurt on the job doing an activity not required by the job BBQ. All you are doing by posting retarded excuses is proving to the world that you don&#039;t deserve to have or be a part of the government that is stuck in a 1800&#039;s hole. Grow up, fix it, take responsibility for the mistake and make it better. Ok I get it that is the way you do it in Sedona. Backwards and with the public paying your salaries. You should be world class as high as the taxes are. I agree with Harold W. stop bringing in the tourists causing our property taxes to be high and bring back a volunteer firefighters. Stop making lame excuses and playing the blame game.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is clear that something is wrong with you people. Someone got hurt on the job doing an activity not required by the job BBQ. All you are doing by posting retarded excuses is proving to the world that you don&#8217;t deserve to have or be a part of the government that is stuck in a 1800&#8217;s hole. Grow up, fix it, take responsibility for the mistake and make it better. Ok I get it that is the way you do it in Sedona. Backwards and with the public paying your salaries. You should be world class as high as the taxes are. I agree with Harold W. stop bringing in the tourists causing our property taxes to be high and bring back a volunteer firefighters. Stop making lame excuses and playing the blame game.</p>
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		By: @Rich C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Rich C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 02:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are wrong, Rich C. &quot;These people your arguing with are the 2-3 (deleted by editor)&quot;   We represent the more than 700 who protested the city&#039;s proposal to control who picks up our garbage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are wrong, Rich C. &#8220;These people your arguing with are the 2-3 (deleted by editor)&#8221;   We represent the more than 700 who protested the city&#8217;s proposal to control who picks up our garbage.</p>
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		By: Rich C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@matt S

Hey Matt.....Let it go.....your talking facts and common sense.  These people your arguing with are the same 2-3 (deleted by editor) ...  there about as knowledgeable as the 3 moronic recalled board members.... They didn&#039;t know anything about the fire service either.....save your breath]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@matt S</p>
<p>Hey Matt&#8230;..Let it go&#8230;..your talking facts and common sense.  These people your arguing with are the same 2-3 (deleted by editor) &#8230;  there about as knowledgeable as the 3 moronic recalled board members&#8230;. They didn&#8217;t know anything about the fire service either&#8230;..save your breath</p>
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		By: Paul M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a community we need to take egos and special interest out of it. It is no different than how you raised your kids. We all know that drugs and alcohol have risk factors. We don&#039;t allow our children to buy tobacco and alcohol under certain ages. If you teenage son or daughter came home and asked that you host a alcohol - pot party for their friends would you? Even if they whined and said it&#039;s fun? You wouldn&#039;t.
Making the workplace a safe and a productive space is a focus for all. We have banned smoking in many public places. Whether you have a personal favorite taste for BBQ these men and women are there to work. Period. It&#039;s not supposed to be fun, games and a party while they are duty. 
With those objecting and playing bully Matt Shobert it makes me realize the one would only do so if there was many more issues at our lovely fire department. Makes it clear that a watchdog group needs to step up to the plate and start overseeing their actions. The Fire department is a huge amount of property taxes. 
The tourists drive up our costs and apparently the fire department employees feel that it is a party on the taxpayers dime. Regardless of your excuses there is none that can rationalize allowing a operation that is for leisure and not a direct job function that hurt and or could potentially hurt any employee.     

I am now curious on the spending and how high off the hog they are living at the cost of the taxpayers.  Yep we need to stop funding tourism and cut off the special interests - regional chamber as they are destroying sedona living. Volunteers would do a better job.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a community we need to take egos and special interest out of it. It is no different than how you raised your kids. We all know that drugs and alcohol have risk factors. We don&#8217;t allow our children to buy tobacco and alcohol under certain ages. If you teenage son or daughter came home and asked that you host a alcohol &#8211; pot party for their friends would you? Even if they whined and said it&#8217;s fun? You wouldn&#8217;t.<br />
Making the workplace a safe and a productive space is a focus for all. We have banned smoking in many public places. Whether you have a personal favorite taste for BBQ these men and women are there to work. Period. It&#8217;s not supposed to be fun, games and a party while they are duty.<br />
With those objecting and playing bully Matt Shobert it makes me realize the one would only do so if there was many more issues at our lovely fire department. Makes it clear that a watchdog group needs to step up to the plate and start overseeing their actions. The Fire department is a huge amount of property taxes.<br />
The tourists drive up our costs and apparently the fire department employees feel that it is a party on the taxpayers dime. Regardless of your excuses there is none that can rationalize allowing a operation that is for leisure and not a direct job function that hurt and or could potentially hurt any employee.     </p>
<p>I am now curious on the spending and how high off the hog they are living at the cost of the taxpayers.  Yep we need to stop funding tourism and cut off the special interests &#8211; regional chamber as they are destroying sedona living. Volunteers would do a better job.</p>
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		By: Matt Shobert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Shobert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 04:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Harry - 

...c&#039;mon man... again you are spewing lies and falsehoods, behind a nameless face!  

More angry rhetoric from a retired Sedonanan, the place you thought would soothe your soul in retirement.  Sounds like you bay live in the VOC... the village is not missing their idiot!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Harry &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8230;c&#8217;mon man&#8230; again you are spewing lies and falsehoods, behind a nameless face!  </p>
<p>More angry rhetoric from a retired Sedonanan, the place you thought would soothe your soul in retirement.  Sounds like you bay live in the VOC&#8230; the village is not missing their idiot!</p>
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		By: Paul D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 00:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Matt Schobutt

 &quot;Firefighter’s need to eat! What makes the difference if they use the microwave or the BBQ?&quot;. If you don&#039;t know the difference, you should not be a firefighter. 

&quot;Keep in mind if you stop breathing, you can last about four minutes!!! What’s your silly point?! &quot; Well, you just made it, if you don&#039;t get here in 4 minutes I&#039;m dead anyway. At least let me keep what little money I have left after all the taxes I have paid my entire life. I&#039;d rather die of asphyxiation than starvation, it&#039;s a lot quicker.

Be a real fireman, go to work for Rural Metro in Phoenix, they work stand up 24 hour shifts, no time for working out, they are working. Very unlike Sedona fire 48 hour shifts where they may not even get a call. Am I wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt Schobutt</p>
<p> &#8220;Firefighter’s need to eat! What makes the difference if they use the microwave or the BBQ?&#8221;. If you don&#8217;t know the difference, you should not be a firefighter. </p>
<p>&#8220;Keep in mind if you stop breathing, you can last about four minutes!!! What’s your silly point?! &#8221; Well, you just made it, if you don&#8217;t get here in 4 minutes I&#8217;m dead anyway. At least let me keep what little money I have left after all the taxes I have paid my entire life. I&#8217;d rather die of asphyxiation than starvation, it&#8217;s a lot quicker.</p>
<p>Be a real fireman, go to work for Rural Metro in Phoenix, they work stand up 24 hour shifts, no time for working out, they are working. Very unlike Sedona fire 48 hour shifts where they may not even get a call. Am I wrong?</p>
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		By: Harold W.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2016 18:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And if we didn&#039;t have more traffic than Sedona can accommodate, we could go back to having volunteer firefighters that worked very nicely back in the day. However, now thanks to the brilliant maneuvers of the incorporated part of Sedona, giving millions of dollars to the chamber of commerce to attract more day trippers, all of us in the fire district (different than city limits) must pay the price as reflected in the property taxes from our respective counties. Way to go incorporated Sedona. You&#039;ve done us no favors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if we didn&#8217;t have more traffic than Sedona can accommodate, we could go back to having volunteer firefighters that worked very nicely back in the day. However, now thanks to the brilliant maneuvers of the incorporated part of Sedona, giving millions of dollars to the chamber of commerce to attract more day trippers, all of us in the fire district (different than city limits) must pay the price as reflected in the property taxes from our respective counties. Way to go incorporated Sedona. You&#8217;ve done us no favors.</p>
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		By: Matt Shobert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Shobert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2016 15:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Paul D-

Still no real name... you spelled mine wrong BTW!  I love it when people like yourself complain about firefighter&#039;s working out!!  That is no different than complaining about the soldiers who train.  Absurd!!!

Firefighter&#039;s need to eat!  What makes the difference if they use the microwave or the BBQ?

Your five minute estimates are close, unless you account for the ridiculous roundabouts people like you incorrectly pushed 10 years ago!  Keep in mind if you stop breathing, you can last about four minutes!!!  What&#039;s your silly point?!

Admit it!  You are a bored, lonely, grumpy, old retiree, with nothing left to do but complain about your local government!  I&#039;ve got you pegged.  Listened to it for years!  Spend your &quot;golden years&quot; angry at the world!  ...truly sad, actually.  Take up painting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul D-</p>
<p>Still no real name&#8230; you spelled mine wrong BTW!  I love it when people like yourself complain about firefighter&#8217;s working out!!  That is no different than complaining about the soldiers who train.  Absurd!!!</p>
<p>Firefighter&#8217;s need to eat!  What makes the difference if they use the microwave or the BBQ?</p>
<p>Your five minute estimates are close, unless you account for the ridiculous roundabouts people like you incorrectly pushed 10 years ago!  Keep in mind if you stop breathing, you can last about four minutes!!!  What&#8217;s your silly point?!</p>
<p>Admit it!  You are a bored, lonely, grumpy, old retiree, with nothing left to do but complain about your local government!  I&#8217;ve got you pegged.  Listened to it for years!  Spend your &#8220;golden years&#8221; angry at the world!  &#8230;truly sad, actually.  Take up painting.</p>
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		By: Paul D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2016 05:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Matt Schobert

Name calling and insults is the refuge of those with no real defense. The new Chapel station is 5 minutes from the Uptown station and the Village station.  This without lights and sirens. Dispute that fact when you claim fire department critics know nothing. We would of course have better response times and be safer if there was a station on every corner. There is also the possibility, exceptionally remote, that all stations may be out on call, so we would need more stations, just to be safe. It would also give the firefighters more time to barbeque, watch TV and work out.  That is, when they are not setting their station on fire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Matt Schobert</p>
<p>Name calling and insults is the refuge of those with no real defense. The new Chapel station is 5 minutes from the Uptown station and the Village station.  This without lights and sirens. Dispute that fact when you claim fire department critics know nothing. We would of course have better response times and be safer if there was a station on every corner. There is also the possibility, exceptionally remote, that all stations may be out on call, so we would need more stations, just to be safe. It would also give the firefighters more time to barbeque, watch TV and work out.  That is, when they are not setting their station on fire.</p>
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