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		By: Sandra		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/the-lion-roars-again-or-whatever-sedona/comment-page-1/#comment-10351</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 17:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What will happen to the economy in Sedona when all the uptown shoppers spend their days down by the creek after it&#039;s made accessible? The positive side, however, might be that there won&#039;t be any more jaywalkers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will happen to the economy in Sedona when all the uptown shoppers spend their days down by the creek after it&#8217;s made accessible? The positive side, however, might be that there won&#8217;t be any more jaywalkers!</p>
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		By: Marty		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/the-lion-roars-again-or-whatever-sedona/comment-page-1/#comment-10344</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From what I read here this proposed disposition of very valuable city owned land has been discussed at council meetings for the past couple of months. 

I&#039;ve gone through the local paper (Red Rock News) including the most recent ones this week and see nothing about this very important and potentially pending disaster in Sedona. Why is that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I read here this proposed disposition of very valuable city owned land has been discussed at council meetings for the past couple of months. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gone through the local paper (Red Rock News) including the most recent ones this week and see nothing about this very important and potentially pending disaster in Sedona. Why is that?</p>
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		By: jerry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ward and Maddock offer points worth discussing.  What about these three for now...

Ward - selling this property was never a consideration until the Miller offer at the council meeting. What  - Come again????  Ask what the public heard and what its saying now?   Maddock  -  council refers to pre-meeting/pre-discussion while city attorney labels it SPECIAL council meeting.  Come again -  how SPECIAL IS IT Mr. Mayor and Council ????  

Trying to follow &quot;the meetings&quot; and meeting referencing - No transparency. Confusion YES.  Sedona City Council WAS better than this!  Election coming up soon! jerry]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ward and Maddock offer points worth discussing.  What about these three for now&#8230;</p>
<p>Ward &#8211; selling this property was never a consideration until the Miller offer at the council meeting. What  &#8211; Come again????  Ask what the public heard and what its saying now?   Maddock  &#8211;  council refers to pre-meeting/pre-discussion while city attorney labels it SPECIAL council meeting.  Come again &#8211;  how SPECIAL IS IT Mr. Mayor and Council ????  </p>
<p>Trying to follow &#8220;the meetings&#8221; and meeting referencing &#8211; No transparency. Confusion YES.  Sedona City Council WAS better than this!  Election coming up soon! jerry</p>
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		By: Marv		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[what? they&#039;re going to sell city property already belonging to posse ground &quot;park&quot;  to a private party to be a park? so they can buy cheap swamp land by the creek?  what did that guy above say? let me check. yea, &quot;moronic convergence&quot; just confirmed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what? they&#8217;re going to sell city property already belonging to posse ground &#8220;park&#8221;  to a private party to be a park? so they can buy cheap swamp land by the creek?  what did that guy above say? let me check. yea, &#8220;moronic convergence&#8221; just confirmed.</p>
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		By: Eddie S. Maddock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie S. Maddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Click on Item 9A to view the portion of the June 26th City Council meeting concerning the discussion/possible direction/possible action on disposing of the 9.15 acres of City owned land on Soldiers Pass Road.

http://sedonaaz.swagit.com/play/06262012-635

Briefly, City Manager Tim Ernster made the following six suggestions and/or recommendations:

1. Recommended that the City Council should delay disposing of any City property until after the Park&#039;s Master Plan is completed and consider doing any decision on disposition of any property until the Community Plan update is completed which would be in the spring of 2013.

2. Before any decision is made to dispose of the parcel it should be reviewed by the Parks &#038; Recreation and Budget Oversight Commissions. The reason for that recommendation is that the property is adjacent to Posse Grounds Park and Parks &#038; Recreation Commission should have the opportunity to consider if they would like to incorporate this parcel into the park for some possible recreational use. The Budget Oversight Commission should review the financial need and fiscal implications of disposing of the City property at this time.

3. If the City does decide to dispose of this property there shouldn&#039;t be any restrictions placed on the property that would artificially reduce the value of the property.

4. If the City should decide to move forward with this the City should be responsible for the full election costs associated with the election to give the voters an opportunity to vote on this.

5. Adjacent property owners should be notified of any future public meetings where this is discussed so if Council does decide to go through some sort of review process and asks Parks &#038; Recreation and Budget Oversight Commissions to review the process, adjacent neighborhoods should be notified so they could attend and participate in the discussions.

6. Would the present applicant be interested in a low rate, long term (5-10 years) lease to operate the property as a sculpture park? The City would still retain ownership and possibly in 5 or 10 years or so, when the real estate market has recovered and the property is possibly worth considerably more than it is today, then consideration could be made to dispose of the property through auction.

ACTION TAKEN:

1. City Council did not expedite action to accommodate the current application known as &quot;Letter of Intent&quot; to purchase the 9.15 acres on Soldiers Pass Road.

2. By a vote of 5-1 (Mike Ward being the dissenting vote and Barbara Litrell was absent from this meeting) it was approved to refer the matter of the 9.15 acres owned by the City, located at 555 Soldiers Pass Road, to the Parks &#038; Recreation Commission after the completion (sometime in August) of the Parks Master Plan for recommendations regarding possible sale for park uses of said land.

Therefore, it&#039;s likely that the disposition of the property will be on the ballot for voter approval at the March 2013 election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Click on Item 9A to view the portion of the June 26th City Council meeting concerning the discussion/possible direction/possible action on disposing of the 9.15 acres of City owned land on Soldiers Pass Road.</p>
<p><a href="http://sedonaaz.swagit.com/play/06262012-635" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sedonaaz.swagit.com/play/06262012-635</a></p>
<p>Briefly, City Manager Tim Ernster made the following six suggestions and/or recommendations:</p>
<p>1. Recommended that the City Council should delay disposing of any City property until after the Park&#8217;s Master Plan is completed and consider doing any decision on disposition of any property until the Community Plan update is completed which would be in the spring of 2013.</p>
<p>2. Before any decision is made to dispose of the parcel it should be reviewed by the Parks &amp; Recreation and Budget Oversight Commissions. The reason for that recommendation is that the property is adjacent to Posse Grounds Park and Parks &amp; Recreation Commission should have the opportunity to consider if they would like to incorporate this parcel into the park for some possible recreational use. The Budget Oversight Commission should review the financial need and fiscal implications of disposing of the City property at this time.</p>
<p>3. If the City does decide to dispose of this property there shouldn&#8217;t be any restrictions placed on the property that would artificially reduce the value of the property.</p>
<p>4. If the City should decide to move forward with this the City should be responsible for the full election costs associated with the election to give the voters an opportunity to vote on this.</p>
<p>5. Adjacent property owners should be notified of any future public meetings where this is discussed so if Council does decide to go through some sort of review process and asks Parks &amp; Recreation and Budget Oversight Commissions to review the process, adjacent neighborhoods should be notified so they could attend and participate in the discussions.</p>
<p>6. Would the present applicant be interested in a low rate, long term (5-10 years) lease to operate the property as a sculpture park? The City would still retain ownership and possibly in 5 or 10 years or so, when the real estate market has recovered and the property is possibly worth considerably more than it is today, then consideration could be made to dispose of the property through auction.</p>
<p>ACTION TAKEN:</p>
<p>1. City Council did not expedite action to accommodate the current application known as &#8220;Letter of Intent&#8221; to purchase the 9.15 acres on Soldiers Pass Road.</p>
<p>2. By a vote of 5-1 (Mike Ward being the dissenting vote and Barbara Litrell was absent from this meeting) it was approved to refer the matter of the 9.15 acres owned by the City, located at 555 Soldiers Pass Road, to the Parks &amp; Recreation Commission after the completion (sometime in August) of the Parks Master Plan for recommendations regarding possible sale for park uses of said land.</p>
<p>Therefore, it&#8217;s likely that the disposition of the property will be on the ballot for voter approval at the March 2013 election.</p>
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		By: Warren Woodward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren Woodward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddie,

links for agenda items, 6/26 &#038; 6/27 (I am afraid to look at 6/27): at http://www.sedonaaz.gov 

Home » Meetings » City Council » June 26, 2012
Adobe PDF Document 	6-26-12 Agenda - Special Meeting #1
Adobe PDF Document 	6-26-12 Agenda - Special Meeting #2
Adobe PDF Document 	6-26-12 Complete Council Packet - Special Meeting #2
Adobe PDF Document 	6-26-12 Agenda - Regular Meeting
Adobe PDF Document 	6-26-12 Complete Council Packet - Regular Meeting

Home » Meetings » City Council » June 27, 2012
Adobe PDF Document 	6-27-12 Agenda - Special Meeting with Sustainability Commission
Adobe PDF Document 	6-27-12 Complete Council Packet - Special Meeting with Sustainability Commission]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie,</p>
<p>links for agenda items, 6/26 &amp; 6/27 (I am afraid to look at 6/27): at <a href="http://www.sedonaaz.gov" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sedonaaz.gov</a> </p>
<p>Home » Meetings » City Council » June 26, 2012<br />
Adobe PDF Document 	6-26-12 Agenda &#8211; Special Meeting #1<br />
Adobe PDF Document 	6-26-12 Agenda &#8211; Special Meeting #2<br />
Adobe PDF Document 	6-26-12 Complete Council Packet &#8211; Special Meeting #2<br />
Adobe PDF Document 	6-26-12 Agenda &#8211; Regular Meeting<br />
Adobe PDF Document 	6-26-12 Complete Council Packet &#8211; Regular Meeting</p>
<p>Home » Meetings » City Council » June 27, 2012<br />
Adobe PDF Document 	6-27-12 Agenda &#8211; Special Meeting with Sustainability Commission<br />
Adobe PDF Document 	6-27-12 Complete Council Packet &#8211; Special Meeting with Sustainability Commission</p>
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		By: Ted		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/the-lion-roars-again-or-whatever-sedona/comment-page-1/#comment-10318</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I smell a recall if this stays on the council agenda.  Pay attention Mayor and councilors.  Losing ones perspective so early in the game is like leaving the Sedona cake out in the monsoon...  No need to be playing with the inauthentic big boys asking you to toss priceless real estate up for grabs when the voters are waiting with baited breath to fire you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I smell a recall if this stays on the council agenda.  Pay attention Mayor and councilors.  Losing ones perspective so early in the game is like leaving the Sedona cake out in the monsoon&#8230;  No need to be playing with the inauthentic big boys asking you to toss priceless real estate up for grabs when the voters are waiting with baited breath to fire you.</p>
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		By: Aprilinda Samuelson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aprilinda Samuelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 23:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ah...perception!...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah&#8230;perception!&#8230;</p>
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		By: N. Baer		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/the-lion-roars-again-or-whatever-sedona/comment-page-1/#comment-10296</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N. Baer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, thank you Eddie for keeping up with city shenanigans; the potential exploitation of Sedona real estate values (realtors take heed!!! Less money for you unless you stop this now!!!) and the sabotage of the Sedona Community Plan before the ink hits the paper.

I&#039;d add to Marlene&#039;s observation that while the two pre-meetings will not be televised, neither will any public comment be allowed. 

Hopefully, wiser people will prevail and not exploit Sedona&#039;s valuable land just to satisfy some egotistical fantasy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, thank you Eddie for keeping up with city shenanigans; the potential exploitation of Sedona real estate values (realtors take heed!!! Less money for you unless you stop this now!!!) and the sabotage of the Sedona Community Plan before the ink hits the paper.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d add to Marlene&#8217;s observation that while the two pre-meetings will not be televised, neither will any public comment be allowed. </p>
<p>Hopefully, wiser people will prevail and not exploit Sedona&#8217;s valuable land just to satisfy some egotistical fantasy.</p>
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		By: Eddie Maddock		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/the-lion-roars-again-or-whatever-sedona/comment-page-1/#comment-10284</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie Maddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At the time I wrote this article I wasn&#039;t aware it would be on the Agendas for the following City Council Meetings on June 26, 2012:

SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING (pre-discussion), 3:00 PM Tuesday 6/26/12

Item 4: From The Regular Business Section of the 4:30 PM Agenda

a. AB 1411 concerning a Letter of Intent to purchase 9.15 acres of City owned land at 555 Soldiers Pass Road, further identified as Assessor&#039;s Parcel No. 408-25-339A. This property is part of the Posse Grounds Park.

REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA, 4:30 PM  Tuesday 6/26/12

Item 9: Regular Business

a. AB-1411. Discussion/possible direction/possible action on Letter of Intent to purchase the City owned property as described at the Special (pre-discussion) Meeting held at 3:00 PM prior to this Regular City Council Meeting.

NOTE: This meeting will be available for live viewing, Tuesday,  6/26/12 @ 4:30 PM, SuddenLInk Cable, Channel 4.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the time I wrote this article I wasn&#8217;t aware it would be on the Agendas for the following City Council Meetings on June 26, 2012:</p>
<p>SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING (pre-discussion), 3:00 PM Tuesday 6/26/12</p>
<p>Item 4: From The Regular Business Section of the 4:30 PM Agenda</p>
<p>a. AB 1411 concerning a Letter of Intent to purchase 9.15 acres of City owned land at 555 Soldiers Pass Road, further identified as Assessor&#8217;s Parcel No. 408-25-339A. This property is part of the Posse Grounds Park.</p>
<p>REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA, 4:30 PM  Tuesday 6/26/12</p>
<p>Item 9: Regular Business</p>
<p>a. AB-1411. Discussion/possible direction/possible action on Letter of Intent to purchase the City owned property as described at the Special (pre-discussion) Meeting held at 3:00 PM prior to this Regular City Council Meeting.</p>
<p>NOTE: This meeting will be available for live viewing, Tuesday,  6/26/12 @ 4:30 PM, SuddenLInk Cable, Channel 4.</p>
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