http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/24/the-story-of-thanksgiving-as-told-by-college-students/

Oh, lucky me. Sorry I’m tapped out be these grifters in this town but they will get this override passed but I’m getting really angry and it has to stop.

That “party”/conference out of town is enough for me to Vote NO! I’ve yet to see a teacher’s pay increase shown or any exact place the money will be spent if the override wins….anyone else seen those figures?

Please remember that as the override election is over on 11/5/13 – regardless of the results – the financial well being of our district remains as the bigger picture…as they continue to tax US.

Come On Guys – enough is enough and this is just tooooo much testosterone!

The continued back and forth fighting for and marking territory is so very far off the subject of a NO or a YES vote on the school district Override. (I’ve got a male dog who marks his space with much more respect and at least hangs his head when he gets caught!)

As the mother of 3 adult kids: If any of my kids treated another person in the ways you two are going after each other I’d remind them that they get what they give. I’d remind them to treat everyone in the same ways they want to be treated and then I’d think I’d not done a very good job of teaching my kids to respect all peoples ideas, even though they differ from theirs.

Lastly, I’d strongly talk to my kids about how the concept of using “Bully Tactics” (as you BOTH are doing!!! ) to make a point – by dishing another person – actually is erasing any valid comments, by either side, and just trying to put the other person down in order to make one of you two bullies feel more righteous and important.

Enough! Accept that you two eliminate each other’s votes and move on – PLEASE?

I have had no email exchanges nor sent any email letters in two years to Angela LeFevre. She did, apparently, give you my personal email address. Meanwhile, please do check me out. There’s not a single skeleton in my closet. So, you think you should be involved with our public education system and our young people?

SEE POST ABOVE, IN RESPONSE TO YOURS, AND READ YOUR EMAIL. NOT SURE WHY ITS HERE, INSTEAD OF BELOW YOURS, OR SENT TWICE…

Then out of the blue, you attacked me; so it’s on, m.f……no ‘sporting fight, no rules…’ no, ‘sorry, never mind..’. And don’t whine; you’re just gettin what you asked to get.

As for the adolescent gym puffer-y above, I do know people that go to Snap, tho I don’t …. I’ve trained in my own place for many years…since after college f.b./service days; I don’t like wasting a lot of time, or listening to the usual b.s. seen in a co-ed box type gym; you know, the strutting around, the spandex, the flexing, the pseudo fertility dance that is nearly always on display…all, that at this stage of my life. I find pretty boring….tho,as a younger man, I did like the spandex and fertility stuff:)….Now, as a grown up, I prefer bodywt circuit stuff, bag work, and cardio stuff; gotta keep my “pencil neck” in shape for dealing with tough guys, like you !….. Anyway, from what I’ve heard from those that do go, you’re one of those guys that walks/struts around the gym, yapping a lot, asking boring s..t, like “what’s your bench?”,making lots of noise…you, know the yelling, groaning, phony-tough b.s. while “lifting”….basically all the crap I hate….

Kinda like a physical version of what you do online.

As to my choice of speech, I am fluent in Medicalese, Legalese, formal/correct English, and ‘street’…which is after all, my roots. With phony tough guys, I find myself most often using the later….but I do tend to go back n forth, depending on the venue, and audience.

In reviewing your gibberish, I noted you’ve latched on to the term ‘monikers’, used in a derogatory manner, in an attempt, I guess, to appear “clever”.

O.K., let me dumb it down for you…A M.D. is a degree awarded from Medical schools, in my case Georgetown University, upon graduation; after med school I did General Surgery, at G.U., then Orthopaedic residency training at the Hospital for Joint Diseases, in NYC, where I was selected Chief resident, and then later on, after I got out of the service, a spinal surgery fellowship at the State Univ. of N.Y., Buffalo. I was one of the 2 selected, from 300 applicants;a bit more selective than old T.U….
Similarly, a J.D. is a degree awarded from a law school, in my case the Univ. of Toledo, upon graduation; I earned that attending classes over a 5 year period, while maintaining a busy surgical practice, primarily in spine, and trauma. And, yes, truth be told, I did graduate with honors from both institutions…..I’ll shoot you an email of my c.v…… if you’ll do the same. You first. Then you can check me out…and, more importantly, I can check YOU out.

Let’s see who’s the fraud….

So,you see, the M.D., and J.D. after my name aren’t “monikers”, in the meaning of the term as you attempt to use it; they represent earned degrees from institutions of higher learning. The term moniker is more aptly applied to the initials after the name of guys who get their legal “education” surfing online…or by spending the night in the Holiday Inn Express… and their “advanced” degrees from places like “Whats-a Matter-U”…..

In re the legal topic you have attempted to expound upon above, I thank you… for your simple, if somewhat child-like, interpretation of the First Amendment, as it relates to Speech’; the analysis is a bit more nuanced than that, however.. and, defamation is NOT the only cause of action you’ve put in play. I’ll leave you to your web search to try to figure out what that means….hint; start working your way thru the “intentional torts”….that should take someone like you with no actual legal education, training, or experience, a bit of time.

To everyone else, again, I support the Override; that’s the only reason I ever went online on the Biz site…or anywhere else. I mostly like to be, and as J.Rick is learning, am best left, alone…
I do see legitimate points of argument from the No vote group. I think it is the case that there has been a lot of money spent on ill- advised projects, funded under the school budget, like a state of the art ball-field, which is way too expensive/and a lot better than the teams I’ve seen play on it; the performing arts center, which should have been a community, not school budget item; and the solar panels, which should have been proven to be cost effective prior to going up; and finally, my own pet peeve, the White Elephant of an “administration building”…that rusting tin hulk off campus.. that should have never been put up. That said, the No vote on the Override hurts the wrong people; Sedona kids, and indirectly, the community, for the reasons I’ve offered elsewhere . The kids are not the people who spent money that should not have been spent.
People should be able to disagree agreeably on the Override; or at least stay on topic. You may visit the Biz site to judge whether my comments were intemperate, or not. I did not respond in kind, when this blowhard/phony-tough guy/ self-proclaimed, pseudo-intellectual attacked me, personally, the first time. Then he sent yet another snotty email to Angela L. after his posts were taken down elsewhere…a middle aged lady who he continues to bother, tho she’s asked him to stop…which is how I learned he re-posted the same crap. So, I got involved; he’s asked for what he’s gotten.

In closing folks, I’m going to stop the back and forth now on this type of forum; its wasting a lot my and others time. I’ll deal with J. Rick directly. I only wasted my time on this blowhard to show that he can’t bully everyone. Take care, and please consider voting ‘Yes’ !