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		By: Return on Investment		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Return on Investment]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 03:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The 1.3 was supposed to give a return on investment for the City of Sedona. Since those monies are being used to promote a regional group then those not benefiting from the club benefits cannot be included. For example Leasing, Construction and Unities have nothing to do with this 1.3 investment. 

When looking on the return the lodging group said they take that 1.3 and make a return.  That is where your eyes should be. Did they? NO
Take the 1.3 and divide it up among the Chamber members. Those outside the city should pay to play. Those that receive the benefit without paying can pay a special business license fee to keep the playing field level.

Then in addition to that all those non city businesses selling their businesses at the visitor center can pay the city of sedona a licensing fee to be promoted their. 

If the city did that they bring in over a million back in fees. They do not pay so they do NOT deserve to get our taxes. Simple Pay to play for ALL.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1.3 was supposed to give a return on investment for the City of Sedona. Since those monies are being used to promote a regional group then those not benefiting from the club benefits cannot be included. For example Leasing, Construction and Unities have nothing to do with this 1.3 investment. </p>
<p>When looking on the return the lodging group said they take that 1.3 and make a return.  That is where your eyes should be. Did they? NO<br />
Take the 1.3 and divide it up among the Chamber members. Those outside the city should pay to play. Those that receive the benefit without paying can pay a special business license fee to keep the playing field level.</p>
<p>Then in addition to that all those non city businesses selling their businesses at the visitor center can pay the city of sedona a licensing fee to be promoted their. </p>
<p>If the city did that they bring in over a million back in fees. They do not pay so they do NOT deserve to get our taxes. Simple Pay to play for ALL.</p>
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		By: Eddie Maddock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie Maddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 17:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is to address a comment made by &quot;West Sedona Resident&quot; referring to &quot;a new catch phrase used here now by the same old cast of characters . . . Health, Safety, and Welfare.&quot;

Beginning with the very first Sedona City Council that phrase has been used time and time again by elected representatives. So the &quot;new catch phrase&quot; came as a surprise and in researching the term this is what Sedona City Clerk Susan Irvine was kind enough to send me:

&quot;Hi Eddie,
 
From what I can tell, it is a common phrase used to define an obligation of states and subsequently local governments to preserve and protect their citizens.  This phrase has long been used in statutes, court cases, and the common law for years throughout the United States.  There is no singular origin for this phrase of which I am aware.
 
Please let me know if you have additional questions or concerns.
 
Susan&quot;

So no matter who uses the &quot;catch phrase&quot; for sure it isn&#039;t a &quot;new&quot; concept.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is to address a comment made by &#8220;West Sedona Resident&#8221; referring to &#8220;a new catch phrase used here now by the same old cast of characters . . . Health, Safety, and Welfare.&#8221;</p>
<p>Beginning with the very first Sedona City Council that phrase has been used time and time again by elected representatives. So the &#8220;new catch phrase&#8221; came as a surprise and in researching the term this is what Sedona City Clerk Susan Irvine was kind enough to send me:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hi Eddie,</p>
<p>From what I can tell, it is a common phrase used to define an obligation of states and subsequently local governments to preserve and protect their citizens.  This phrase has long been used in statutes, court cases, and the common law for years throughout the United States.  There is no singular origin for this phrase of which I am aware.</p>
<p>Please let me know if you have additional questions or concerns.</p>
<p>Susan&#8221;</p>
<p>So no matter who uses the &#8220;catch phrase&#8221; for sure it isn&#8217;t a &#8220;new&#8221; concept.</p>
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		By: More to Think About		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More to Think About]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2015 00:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This becomes increasingly more interesting. Arizona Revised Statutes, Title 9: Cities &#038; Towns, also includes the following:
 
9-240. General powers of common council

A. The common council shall have control of the finances and property of the corporation.

B. The common council shall also have power within the limits of the town:

1. To erect, purchase or lease necessary buildings for the purposes of the corporation.

2. To appropriate money and provide for the payment of its debts and expenses.

 

Operative Words?  &quot;. . . HAVE POWER WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE TOWN.&quot;  

 

Question:  Why is contracting with the Chamber of Commerce for a Sedona City Visitor&#039;s Center and in addition contracting them for $1.3 million to promote destination tourism acceptable? 

Even though the &quot;Visitor&#039;s Center&quot; is located within City Limits, clearly the C of C is a regional special member driven organization, representing and promoting an unknown number of competitive businesses outside the jurisdiction of the &quot;General power of common council?&quot; That definitely does not qualify as being a &quot;purpose of the corporation.&quot;

Having four members of the previous City Council now replaced with four new faces, we are left with at least three of the former council members who supported this highly questionable method of operation.

There&#039;s little doubt that manipulating interpretations in the broadest sense is what has allowed this deplorable situation to occur in the first place; however, the moral injustice, including the tactics used during the last election, cannot possibly justify the end result which continues to deteriorate on a daily basis as long as this deplorable activity is allowed to continue. And let us not dismiss that fact that conspicuous by absence is an itemized accounting of public funding ~ how it has been spent ~ including but not limited to Holiday Central.

Item #2 is clearly being violated since city expenses expand beyond legitimate jurisdiction and continue to be used to promote competition outside City Limits.

To our Four New Sedona City Council Members:  Are you paying attention? 

Mayor Sandy Moriarty, as a member of the first appointed City Council after incorporation and remaining a loyal follower of Sedona government, you surely are aware of the rules.

We know you love Sedona and of the seven now &quot;on board the latest cruise&quot; (actually I think the theme of the original posted article) are you willing to take command, instruct the new recruits (elected, that is), to honorably fulfill the legitimate task for which they were officially seated and encourage reversal and rectification of past bad decisions? 

Will you, as the leader, attempt to Save Our Sedona by encouraging representation of the entire Population within the legal confines of the City of Sedona in accordance with the Legitimate Statutes set forth by the State of Arizona and to which all of you must ultimately be accountable?

This is submitted solely as a resident and registered voter of the City of Sedona, residing within Sedona City Limits, without endorsement or representation by or for the online publication, Sedona Eye.

Sincerely,

Eddie S. Maddock]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This becomes increasingly more interesting. Arizona Revised Statutes, Title 9: Cities &amp; Towns, also includes the following:</p>
<p>9-240. General powers of common council</p>
<p>A. The common council shall have control of the finances and property of the corporation.</p>
<p>B. The common council shall also have power within the limits of the town:</p>
<p>1. To erect, purchase or lease necessary buildings for the purposes of the corporation.</p>
<p>2. To appropriate money and provide for the payment of its debts and expenses.</p>
<p>Operative Words?  &#8220;. . . HAVE POWER WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE TOWN.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Question:  Why is contracting with the Chamber of Commerce for a Sedona City Visitor&#8217;s Center and in addition contracting them for $1.3 million to promote destination tourism acceptable? </p>
<p>Even though the &#8220;Visitor&#8217;s Center&#8221; is located within City Limits, clearly the C of C is a regional special member driven organization, representing and promoting an unknown number of competitive businesses outside the jurisdiction of the &#8220;General power of common council?&#8221; That definitely does not qualify as being a &#8220;purpose of the corporation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Having four members of the previous City Council now replaced with four new faces, we are left with at least three of the former council members who supported this highly questionable method of operation.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s little doubt that manipulating interpretations in the broadest sense is what has allowed this deplorable situation to occur in the first place; however, the moral injustice, including the tactics used during the last election, cannot possibly justify the end result which continues to deteriorate on a daily basis as long as this deplorable activity is allowed to continue. And let us not dismiss that fact that conspicuous by absence is an itemized accounting of public funding ~ how it has been spent ~ including but not limited to Holiday Central.</p>
<p>Item #2 is clearly being violated since city expenses expand beyond legitimate jurisdiction and continue to be used to promote competition outside City Limits.</p>
<p>To our Four New Sedona City Council Members:  Are you paying attention? </p>
<p>Mayor Sandy Moriarty, as a member of the first appointed City Council after incorporation and remaining a loyal follower of Sedona government, you surely are aware of the rules.</p>
<p>We know you love Sedona and of the seven now &#8220;on board the latest cruise&#8221; (actually I think the theme of the original posted article) are you willing to take command, instruct the new recruits (elected, that is), to honorably fulfill the legitimate task for which they were officially seated and encourage reversal and rectification of past bad decisions? </p>
<p>Will you, as the leader, attempt to Save Our Sedona by encouraging representation of the entire Population within the legal confines of the City of Sedona in accordance with the Legitimate Statutes set forth by the State of Arizona and to which all of you must ultimately be accountable?</p>
<p>This is submitted solely as a resident and registered voter of the City of Sedona, residing within Sedona City Limits, without endorsement or representation by or for the online publication, Sedona Eye.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Eddie S. Maddock</p>
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		By: AZ REVISED STATUTES (post by ESM)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 18:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please take particular notice of (a), (b), and (c)  under #3 relating  to &quot;abate and remove all encumbrances and obstructions thereon.&quot;

And why wouldn&#039;t that apply to snow and ice on city/town roads/streets? Will it take legal action after a few accidents to shock city leaders into reality about AZ State Statutes?
 
 Incidentally, there appears to be nothing in the State Statutes specifically mandating prioritization of funding non-profits over and above: 

&quot;2. To appropriate money and provide for the payment of its debts and expenses.&quot;
 
So, fellow residents, we do have a voice. If not locally, at the State Level where maybe it will be heard.

Information provided by E.S. Maddock   
 
 
 
UNDER TITLE 9, CITIES AND TOWNS
 

9-240. General powers of common council
 

B. The common council shall also have power within the limits of the town: 

2. To appropriate money and provide for the payment of its debts and expenses. 

3. (a) To exercise exclusive control over the streets, alleys, avenues and sidewalks of the town and to give and change the names thereof.

(b) To prevent and punish for the encumbering thereof, and to abate and remove all encumbrances and obstructions thereon.

(c) To widen, extend, straighten, regulate, grade, clean or otherwise improve the same.

(d) To open, lay out and improve new streets, avenues and alleys.

(e) To vacate or abandon any street, avenue, alley, park, public place or sidewalk in such town or to abolish them, provided that rights-of-way or easements of existing sewer, gas, water or similar pipelines and appurtenances and for canals, laterals or ditches and appurtenances, and for electric, telephone, and similar lines and appurtenances shall continue as they existed prior to the vacating, abandonment, or abolishment thereof.

(f) To protect the same from encroachment and injury. 

4. To erect and maintain bridges, culverts, sidewalks and crossways, and prevent and punish for injuries thereto or obstructions thereon. 

5. (a) To construct and maintain sewers and drains, and prevent and punish for any obstruction thereof, or thereto.

(b) To change the channels of natural watercourses, to wall the same and cover them over, and regulate the same as sewers.

(c) To prevent and punish for the filling up, altering or changing of natural watercourses by private persons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please take particular notice of (a), (b), and (c)  under #3 relating  to &#8220;abate and remove all encumbrances and obstructions thereon.&#8221;</p>
<p>And why wouldn&#8217;t that apply to snow and ice on city/town roads/streets? Will it take legal action after a few accidents to shock city leaders into reality about AZ State Statutes?</p>
<p> Incidentally, there appears to be nothing in the State Statutes specifically mandating prioritization of funding non-profits over and above: </p>
<p>&#8220;2. To appropriate money and provide for the payment of its debts and expenses.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, fellow residents, we do have a voice. If not locally, at the State Level where maybe it will be heard.</p>
<p>Information provided by E.S. Maddock   </p>
<p>UNDER TITLE 9, CITIES AND TOWNS</p>
<p>9-240. General powers of common council</p>
<p>B. The common council shall also have power within the limits of the town: </p>
<p>2. To appropriate money and provide for the payment of its debts and expenses. </p>
<p>3. (a) To exercise exclusive control over the streets, alleys, avenues and sidewalks of the town and to give and change the names thereof.</p>
<p>(b) To prevent and punish for the encumbering thereof, and to abate and remove all encumbrances and obstructions thereon.</p>
<p>(c) To widen, extend, straighten, regulate, grade, clean or otherwise improve the same.</p>
<p>(d) To open, lay out and improve new streets, avenues and alleys.</p>
<p>(e) To vacate or abandon any street, avenue, alley, park, public place or sidewalk in such town or to abolish them, provided that rights-of-way or easements of existing sewer, gas, water or similar pipelines and appurtenances and for canals, laterals or ditches and appurtenances, and for electric, telephone, and similar lines and appurtenances shall continue as they existed prior to the vacating, abandonment, or abolishment thereof.</p>
<p>(f) To protect the same from encroachment and injury. </p>
<p>4. To erect and maintain bridges, culverts, sidewalks and crossways, and prevent and punish for injuries thereto or obstructions thereon. </p>
<p>5. (a) To construct and maintain sewers and drains, and prevent and punish for any obstruction thereof, or thereto.</p>
<p>(b) To change the channels of natural watercourses, to wall the same and cover them over, and regulate the same as sewers.</p>
<p>(c) To prevent and punish for the filling up, altering or changing of natural watercourses by private persons.</p>
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		By: George		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rationalizing bad behavior west sedona. The city job is to take care of the city. Not paying for private enterprise.  Keep all the money for infrastructure. Take care of your own yard, employees. Get rid of  the scrub oak, it will prick you every time, goes like weeds. Stop paying for private enterprises,  let the businesses pool their monies together. Sedona Mafia. Stop endorsing the misuse of public funds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rationalizing bad behavior west sedona. The city job is to take care of the city. Not paying for private enterprise.  Keep all the money for infrastructure. Take care of your own yard, employees. Get rid of  the scrub oak, it will prick you every time, goes like weeds. Stop paying for private enterprises,  let the businesses pool their monies together. Sedona Mafia. Stop endorsing the misuse of public funds.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 22:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of return on City&#039;s Chamber of Commerce investment, any bets out there who will attempt to take credit for obvious large numbers of tourists to Sedona the past couple of weeks? Of course it will have nothing to do with the fact that gasoline prices are lower than they&#039;ve been in years. Did the Chamber of Commerce create that phenomenon? 

But the real test will be the vast numbers they intend to draw to Sedona for extended stays during the &quot;down&quot; times. Wouldn&#039;t that be months of January, February? Maybe March? Then good old summertime in July, August? 

That, dear West Sedona Resident, is the time your illogical nonsense about living in the desert might, just might maybe, be applicable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of return on City&#8217;s Chamber of Commerce investment, any bets out there who will attempt to take credit for obvious large numbers of tourists to Sedona the past couple of weeks? Of course it will have nothing to do with the fact that gasoline prices are lower than they&#8217;ve been in years. Did the Chamber of Commerce create that phenomenon? </p>
<p>But the real test will be the vast numbers they intend to draw to Sedona for extended stays during the &#8220;down&#8221; times. Wouldn&#8217;t that be months of January, February? Maybe March? Then good old summertime in July, August? </p>
<p>That, dear West Sedona Resident, is the time your illogical nonsense about living in the desert might, just might maybe, be applicable.</p>
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		By: West Sedona Resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[West Sedona Resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 22:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank You City of Sedona

For realizing that the sun would melt the snow off the roads in a day or two...
You saved us tax papers quite a bit of money in plow contractor fees..

Love the new catch phrase used here now by the same old cast of characters ..

Health Safety and welfare...

What a joke...  Like you care about anybody but yourselves...LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You City of Sedona</p>
<p>For realizing that the sun would melt the snow off the roads in a day or two&#8230;<br />
You saved us tax papers quite a bit of money in plow contractor fees..</p>
<p>Love the new catch phrase used here now by the same old cast of characters ..</p>
<p>Health Safety and welfare&#8230;</p>
<p>What a joke&#8230;  Like you care about anybody but yourselves&#8230;LOL</p>
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		By: Cali Sedonan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cali Sedonan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just think if the city didn&#039;t fund all the private enterprises in the region like the film festival and chamber they could use the tax payers money to make the city more friendly by maintaining the streets!  What  a concept!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just think if the city didn&#8217;t fund all the private enterprises in the region like the film festival and chamber they could use the tax payers money to make the city more friendly by maintaining the streets!  What  a concept!</p>
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		By: Really backwards		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Really backwards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Health Welfare and Safety is what is is about. Road care should be first instead the city pays special interest groups that have ZERO return and has nothing to do with the health welfare and safety. If they city stop paying every tom, dick and harry they have plenty of money to take care of business, roads.  Let&#039;s give the chamber more money so the tourists can run out of town the next time it snows. None of the workers can make it to work with all the ice and snow on roads. Smart move. It&#039;s fun to watch , Tom &#038; Jerry sedona style.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health Welfare and Safety is what is is about. Road care should be first instead the city pays special interest groups that have ZERO return and has nothing to do with the health welfare and safety. If they city stop paying every tom, dick and harry they have plenty of money to take care of business, roads.  Let&#8217;s give the chamber more money so the tourists can run out of town the next time it snows. None of the workers can make it to work with all the ice and snow on roads. Smart move. It&#8217;s fun to watch , Tom &amp; Jerry sedona style.</p>
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		By: THANK YOU ADOT		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[THANK YOU ADOT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[West Sedona Resident:

Since you seem to have all the answers, then why is it that after past snow storms we have had our neighborhood streets serviced with snow plows?

Could it be the city had a contract with Brewer Bros. or some other company? Or maybe you might be among the movers and shakers that disapproved of nonsense like that in order to opt for spending money on junk food. Translated: give away do-re-mi to chamber of commerce.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>West Sedona Resident:</p>
<p>Since you seem to have all the answers, then why is it that after past snow storms we have had our neighborhood streets serviced with snow plows?</p>
<p>Could it be the city had a contract with Brewer Bros. or some other company? Or maybe you might be among the movers and shakers that disapproved of nonsense like that in order to opt for spending money on junk food. Translated: give away do-re-mi to chamber of commerce.</p>
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