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		By: Jerry, Sedona City Limits		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry, Sedona City Limits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Jim A few years back the City worked with ADOT to get medians. ADOT was willing; businesses along 89A had a fit!  (would deter access to curb cuts) Maybe things would be different now but it&#039;s doubtful. Yes, a feasibility study should HAVE been done and for sure with all that&#039;s on the table for a proposed Western Gateway it SHOULD BE top of the list. Of course that would make sense. It seems that&#039;s a missing word in this administration&#039;s vocabulary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim A few years back the City worked with ADOT to get medians. ADOT was willing; businesses along 89A had a fit!  (would deter access to curb cuts) Maybe things would be different now but it&#8217;s doubtful. Yes, a feasibility study should HAVE been done and for sure with all that&#8217;s on the table for a proposed Western Gateway it SHOULD BE top of the list. Of course that would make sense. It seems that&#8217;s a missing word in this administration&#8217;s vocabulary.</p>
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		By: Jim		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-western-gateway-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-48747</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2014 16:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whatever is done there, the City should require a thorough feasibility study  first to determine if the market will support the proposed use.  The &quot;Cultural Park&quot; declined to do that and they failed miserably, leaving us scarred land, ruins and weeds.
    Any development there should be minimum density.  Traffic on 89A is already intolerable, and current proposals would dump about 350 more hotel rooms and more retail businesses into that traffic.
    Any developer on West 89A should contribute financially to improve West 89A so it might meet the traffic, which will grow as more tourists are attracted and more developments are built.  Yes, I mean medians and some roundabouts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever is done there, the City should require a thorough feasibility study  first to determine if the market will support the proposed use.  The &#8220;Cultural Park&#8221; declined to do that and they failed miserably, leaving us scarred land, ruins and weeds.<br />
    Any development there should be minimum density.  Traffic on 89A is already intolerable, and current proposals would dump about 350 more hotel rooms and more retail businesses into that traffic.<br />
    Any developer on West 89A should contribute financially to improve West 89A so it might meet the traffic, which will grow as more tourists are attracted and more developments are built.  Yes, I mean medians and some roundabouts.</p>
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		By: Sedona Sam		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-western-gateway-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-48200</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sedona Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well that is a good one, run your business right........... Clearly you don&#039;t have one or is it in the city limits. Those in the city limits pay double for everything. Sales tax, bed tax, licenses, permits, sales tax on the space they rent, labor, material. Just because it Sedona everyone thinks they can charge them more. I see it as the city are pretenders, they like to pretend that voc, oak creek canyon, enchantment  are in the city, they&#039;re not. They want to look bigger then they are. Ego. Yes I agree VOC is prettier. It&#039;s not a city chamber but a regional chamber, that&#039;s why they should get their hands out of city funding. We&#039;re on the same page@VOC Ellen except for the running of businesses. Sedona region is the tough one, not business friendly. Tourists feel it also. That is why they are one-timers. One visit is enough for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that is a good one, run your business right&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. Clearly you don&#8217;t have one or is it in the city limits. Those in the city limits pay double for everything. Sales tax, bed tax, licenses, permits, sales tax on the space they rent, labor, material. Just because it Sedona everyone thinks they can charge them more. I see it as the city are pretenders, they like to pretend that voc, oak creek canyon, enchantment  are in the city, they&#8217;re not. They want to look bigger then they are. Ego. Yes I agree VOC is prettier. It&#8217;s not a city chamber but a regional chamber, that&#8217;s why they should get their hands out of city funding. We&#8217;re on the same page@VOC Ellen except for the running of businesses. Sedona region is the tough one, not business friendly. Tourists feel it also. That is why they are one-timers. One visit is enough for them.</p>
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		By: VOC Ellen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VOC Ellen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 05:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[City is jealous of VOC. It kept its charm &#038; its focus on being Sedona, land of the red rocks. VOC has Bell Rock, Cathedral, Courthouse &#038; the forest. Chamber put VOC member Sedona Trading out of business with its lack of support &#038; my advice to every VOC business? Stay out of the city chamber because it sucks AND you DON&#039;T need another Chamber in its place. Sit back &#038; reap the advertising awards w/o paying the dough to pseudo focus business groups. Run your business the right way to be successful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>City is jealous of VOC. It kept its charm &amp; its focus on being Sedona, land of the red rocks. VOC has Bell Rock, Cathedral, Courthouse &amp; the forest. Chamber put VOC member Sedona Trading out of business with its lack of support &amp; my advice to every VOC business? Stay out of the city chamber because it sucks AND you DON&#8217;T need another Chamber in its place. Sit back &amp; reap the advertising awards w/o paying the dough to pseudo focus business groups. Run your business the right way to be successful.</p>
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		By: It is what it is		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-western-gateway-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-48041</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It is what it is]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 16:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t it interesting the level of dedication to a Community Plan that essentially created the concepts of CFA&#039;s back when the city became incorporated? How many things in our lives have changed, been eliminated, or become obsolete? That the City has not moved past plans drawn in a totally different time period demonstrates a lack of vision and responsiveness to external changes. IMO, the &quot;new&quot; plan is nothing more than continuing to build out Sedona; changing zoning to allow more multiple housing and making it denser, eliminating buffer zones (see Posse Grounds Park Plan), etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it interesting the level of dedication to a Community Plan that essentially created the concepts of CFA&#8217;s back when the city became incorporated? How many things in our lives have changed, been eliminated, or become obsolete? That the City has not moved past plans drawn in a totally different time period demonstrates a lack of vision and responsiveness to external changes. IMO, the &#8220;new&#8221; plan is nothing more than continuing to build out Sedona; changing zoning to allow more multiple housing and making it denser, eliminating buffer zones (see Posse Grounds Park Plan), etc.</p>
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		By: Permission to desecrate?		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-western-gateway-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-47930</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Permission to desecrate?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 03:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ask the VOC for advice. They can create an illusion for your West Gateway like here.

Some businesses in the VOC give up their whole identity branding themselves as the GATEWAY to Sedona. Visitors often feel disoriented when finding Sedona thinking they were already in Sedona. 

The forest is the gateway to Sedona.

Now they are calling themselves Sedona Village again.

Luckily there are only a small aging handful but they would be your goto people.  They will take you on a Magical Journey.

Don&#039;t you already have a hotel proposed there? You can always blast out the red rock if you need room to add buildings or an art piece. Just make it red, visitors won&#039;t notice. Who cares about the residents?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask the VOC for advice. They can create an illusion for your West Gateway like here.</p>
<p>Some businesses in the VOC give up their whole identity branding themselves as the GATEWAY to Sedona. Visitors often feel disoriented when finding Sedona thinking they were already in Sedona. </p>
<p>The forest is the gateway to Sedona.</p>
<p>Now they are calling themselves Sedona Village again.</p>
<p>Luckily there are only a small aging handful but they would be your goto people.  They will take you on a Magical Journey.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you already have a hotel proposed there? You can always blast out the red rock if you need room to add buildings or an art piece. Just make it red, visitors won&#8217;t notice. Who cares about the residents?</p>
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		By: Tony		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-western-gateway-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-47882</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 22:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They need to hire a Manager, Western Gateway, pay them a six figure salary, then appoint an Assistant Manager, Western Gateway, pay them six figures also. Then commission a study, spend about $600,000 on an outside firm. Then appoint a commission of citizens to review the study. About 5 years and a couple of million tax dollars later they will do another study. 

Yes, I am kidding suggesting the above. Unfortunately that is what the &quot;City&quot; of Sedona usually does. 

Or we could just vote NO on home rule/Alternative Expenditure limitation, disincorporate Sedona and avoid spending the money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need to hire a Manager, Western Gateway, pay them a six figure salary, then appoint an Assistant Manager, Western Gateway, pay them six figures also. Then commission a study, spend about $600,000 on an outside firm. Then appoint a commission of citizens to review the study. About 5 years and a couple of million tax dollars later they will do another study. </p>
<p>Yes, I am kidding suggesting the above. Unfortunately that is what the &#8220;City&#8221; of Sedona usually does. </p>
<p>Or we could just vote NO on home rule/Alternative Expenditure limitation, disincorporate Sedona and avoid spending the money.</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-western-gateway-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-47768</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What needs to be done?  No consensus in any of the meetings that I attended. And not this voter from that area of the city. Leave it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What needs to be done?  No consensus in any of the meetings that I attended. And not this voter from that area of the city. Leave it.</p>
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		By: Joshua		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-western-gateway-discussion/comment-page-1/#comment-47649</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2014 03:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who dreams up these things? Don&#039;t these people ever sleep. WESTERN GATEWAY. Oops. Main Street watch out.:-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who dreams up these things? Don&#8217;t these people ever sleep. WESTERN GATEWAY. Oops. Main Street watch out.:-)</p>
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