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		By: West sedona resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[West sedona resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2015 21:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And thus the post by JJ above proves my point...

Tea Party conscripacy theorist 
Thnks for the backup JJ

Sedona city is out to get you....yea man]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And thus the post by JJ above proves my point&#8230;</p>
<p>Tea Party conscripacy theorist<br />
Thnks for the backup JJ</p>
<p>Sedona city is out to get you&#8230;.yea man</p>
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		By: J. J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Magickj - you bring up an interesting point. It seems all our governmental agencies are being armed to the teeth. The government -- and not the armed forces -- is stockpiling hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition for domestic use. It&#039;s been reported that DHS alone has 2.7 BILLION rounds of ammo. Why is the Post Office buying bullets? The U.S. Bureau of Reclamation says it plans to purchase 54000 rounds of ammunition in a move that&#039;s now raising eyebrows. Agencies like the Department of Education, the Social Security Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency, and the Internal Revenue Service continue to purchase large amounts of tactical weapons and ammunition, they say, to build up their law enforcement divisions. I can&#039;t understand why no one but me has an issue with the IRS training with tactical weapons in DC.

Under a National Monument, we&#039;d be one step closer to a Federal - government run police state. Homeland Security, now armed with 1.7 BILLION rounds of ammo, have law enforcement jurisdiction over ALL federally run agencies, such as National Monuments, as Steve Segner has pointed out above. Under a National Monument, Sedona will lose home rule under the &quot;layer of protection&quot; a National Monument brings.

We are NOT destroying the land. There&#039;s NO ONE developing in your forest and the red rocks are in tact. To say we are destroying the red rocks, forest, and important ancient artifacts is a slap in the face to our Red Rock Ranger District, a team of volunteers, and in the past before they turned into environmentalist dictators, even KSB did a good job protecting our home.

All that development you&#039;re seeing was approved by your city and county zoning commission. If you are having an issue with a ton of hotels and timeshares tearing up the place, NOW is the time to get involved with the LOCAL government. This is your home - don&#039;t turn it over to a nameless bureaucrat 2000 miles away to use as a political pawn the next time they can&#039;t pass their budget.

There are hidden, and not so hidden consequences of turning our red rocks, local government, property rights, and water rights over to a BIG GIANT UNKNOWN.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magickj &#8211; you bring up an interesting point. It seems all our governmental agencies are being armed to the teeth. The government &#8212; and not the armed forces &#8212; is stockpiling hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition for domestic use. It&#8217;s been reported that DHS alone has 2.7 BILLION rounds of ammo. Why is the Post Office buying bullets? The U.S. Bureau of Reclamation says it plans to purchase 54000 rounds of ammunition in a move that&#8217;s now raising eyebrows. Agencies like the Department of Education, the Social Security Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency, and the Internal Revenue Service continue to purchase large amounts of tactical weapons and ammunition, they say, to build up their law enforcement divisions. I can&#8217;t understand why no one but me has an issue with the IRS training with tactical weapons in DC.</p>
<p>Under a National Monument, we&#8217;d be one step closer to a Federal &#8211; government run police state. Homeland Security, now armed with 1.7 BILLION rounds of ammo, have law enforcement jurisdiction over ALL federally run agencies, such as National Monuments, as Steve Segner has pointed out above. Under a National Monument, Sedona will lose home rule under the &#8220;layer of protection&#8221; a National Monument brings.</p>
<p>We are NOT destroying the land. There&#8217;s NO ONE developing in your forest and the red rocks are in tact. To say we are destroying the red rocks, forest, and important ancient artifacts is a slap in the face to our Red Rock Ranger District, a team of volunteers, and in the past before they turned into environmentalist dictators, even KSB did a good job protecting our home.</p>
<p>All that development you&#8217;re seeing was approved by your city and county zoning commission. If you are having an issue with a ton of hotels and timeshares tearing up the place, NOW is the time to get involved with the LOCAL government. This is your home &#8211; don&#8217;t turn it over to a nameless bureaucrat 2000 miles away to use as a political pawn the next time they can&#8217;t pass their budget.</p>
<p>There are hidden, and not so hidden consequences of turning our red rocks, local government, property rights, and water rights over to a BIG GIANT UNKNOWN.</p>
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		By: West Sedona Resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[West Sedona Resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to thank Rick Normand for connecting the dots about about the National Momument...

So the city of Sedona is involed in a conscripacy with the federal government!!!!
Create a National Monument so the US government can secretly mine uranium from us, funnel that money back to Sedona City Council so they can secretly fund thier pet projects!!!! Wow what insight!!!
Thank you so much Rick.... Wow your a frigging genius..AKA a Tea Party conscripacy theorist...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to thank Rick Normand for connecting the dots about about the National Momument&#8230;</p>
<p>So the city of Sedona is involed in a conscripacy with the federal government!!!!<br />
Create a National Monument so the US government can secretly mine uranium from us, funnel that money back to Sedona City Council so they can secretly fund thier pet projects!!!! Wow what insight!!!<br />
Thank you so much Rick&#8230;. Wow your a frigging genius..AKA a Tea Party conscripacy theorist&#8230;</p>
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		By: BLM		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-verde-valley-red-rock-national-monument-proponents-mislead-public/comment-page-2/#comment-119796</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BLM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2015 15:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am FOR Our Verde Valley National Monument Protections.  We are growing.  Lets grow in a healthy way.  This land is NOT your land to DESTROY.  Develop along the freeways.  NOT in our back yard and America&#039;s Treasures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am FOR Our Verde Valley National Monument Protections.  We are growing.  Lets grow in a healthy way.  This land is NOT your land to DESTROY.  Develop along the freeways.  NOT in our back yard and America&#8217;s Treasures.</p>
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		By: steve segner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve segner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Magickj

Who better  to over throw the government then the National Forest Service, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the US Department of Agriculture (USDA). NO one would ever suspect .

They could hold Yellowstone and the Whitehouse hostage, till the government

folds, As an FYI, Forest Service also manages the Whitehouse grounds!!!

Yes, Yes, Yes. Now it all makes sense.

 Thank you

magickj
steve]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magickj</p>
<p>Who better  to over throw the government then the National Forest Service, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the US Department of Agriculture (USDA). NO one would ever suspect .</p>
<p>They could hold Yellowstone and the Whitehouse hostage, till the government</p>
<p>folds, As an FYI, Forest Service also manages the Whitehouse grounds!!!</p>
<p>Yes, Yes, Yes. Now it all makes sense.</p>
<p> Thank you</p>
<p>magickj<br />
steve</p>
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		By: magickj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[magickj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Think about the big picture, and not your little dramas, SS.

What does the National Weather Service, Social Security Administration and now, the US Department of Agriculture (USDA), all have in common? These government agencies are all hoarding weapons and ammunition. DHS now has 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. WHY?  To protect National Monuments?

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (16,000 rounds of .40 Smith &#038; Wesson hollow point bullets), as well as the Social Security Administration (174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets that were delivered to 41 locations across the country).

According to the Fed Biz website: “The US Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical (sic) acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&#038;W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts (sic) trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe (sic) or folding, magazine – 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation.”

Why on earth would the USDA need sub-machine guns? Are free-range cattle SUCH a threat? Let&#039;s NOT forget that the US Forest service is under the direction of the USDA. Why would the US Forest Service need sub-machine guns? To protect National Monuments?

Think about what is happening to our country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about the big picture, and not your little dramas, SS.</p>
<p>What does the National Weather Service, Social Security Administration and now, the US Department of Agriculture (USDA), all have in common? These government agencies are all hoarding weapons and ammunition. DHS now has 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. WHY?  To protect National Monuments?</p>
<p>National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (16,000 rounds of .40 Smith &amp; Wesson hollow point bullets), as well as the Social Security Administration (174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets that were delivered to 41 locations across the country).</p>
<p>According to the Fed Biz website: “The US Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical (sic) acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&amp;W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts (sic) trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe (sic) or folding, magazine – 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation.”</p>
<p>Why on earth would the USDA need sub-machine guns? Are free-range cattle SUCH a threat? Let&#8217;s NOT forget that the US Forest service is under the direction of the USDA. Why would the US Forest Service need sub-machine guns? To protect National Monuments?</p>
<p>Think about what is happening to our country.</p>
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		By: Steve Segner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Segner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2015 03:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please $ 14,000,000 tell us how you got that number? 
As for stolen, please  fill us all in, in detail better yet , call the state if in fact it was stolen they should be told.
 Oh, by the way the city had a meeting last week on marketing, 17 people came , only two from chamber  to plan marketing for next year.... Did you attend? Open meeting,
Loser, great name talk is cheep please give us details, allways happy to correct.
Steve]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please $ 14,000,000 tell us how you got that number?<br />
As for stolen, please  fill us all in, in detail better yet , call the state if in fact it was stolen they should be told.<br />
 Oh, by the way the city had a meeting last week on marketing, 17 people came , only two from chamber  to plan marketing for next year&#8230;. Did you attend? Open meeting,<br />
Loser, great name talk is cheep please give us details, allways happy to correct.<br />
Steve</p>
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		By: @steve		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2015 00:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@steve segner if that were the case then the lodging chamber should have asked the city to give the 14 plus million you stolen to the forest service and for parking to accommodate the tourists. Instead you steal the money to pay for your advertising. Loser!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@steve segner if that were the case then the lodging chamber should have asked the city to give the 14 plus million you stolen to the forest service and for parking to accommodate the tourists. Instead you steal the money to pay for your advertising. Loser!</p>
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		By: steve Segner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve Segner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2015 22:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kristin Elizabeth Regina says:
I agree with Kristin, 
Zoning dictates land usage, and the first city council set up zoning.
Sedona is a city and (a )tourist town, and it will grow.
We are lucky to have all we have ,and have our government paid for by others.
Just because we live in Sedona does not mean we own it, most of us came first as visitors and got Red Rock fever, and moved in.
Sedona is one of the most beautiful places in America and who are we to say stop coming. 
Get out and meet the visitors, welcome them, help them, guide them and make some new friends,
 Or you can sit home and bitch about change, and you will be the one the losses.
steve]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristin Elizabeth Regina says:<br />
I agree with Kristin,<br />
Zoning dictates land usage, and the first city council set up zoning.<br />
Sedona is a city and (a )tourist town, and it will grow.<br />
We are lucky to have all we have ,and have our government paid for by others.<br />
Just because we live in Sedona does not mean we own it, most of us came first as visitors and got Red Rock fever, and moved in.<br />
Sedona is one of the most beautiful places in America and who are we to say stop coming.<br />
Get out and meet the visitors, welcome them, help them, guide them and make some new friends,<br />
 Or you can sit home and bitch about change, and you will be the one the losses.<br />
steve</p>
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		By: Kristin Elizabeth Regina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristin Elizabeth Regina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2015 17:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is no CVS or Walgreens and private property on 89A can be built and developed, it&#039;s part of living in a city.  A CVS would be better than another hotel chain; hotels are always welcome in national monuments and national parks but inholders are not (homeowners are inholders).  The people who support the national monument in spite of all the dangers to People, view People as the Problem,i.e.; the Land is Good, People are Bad.  This is an ideology that they are married to like a religion. This is why you still see irrational comments from a few radical environmentalists.  They unknowingly work for Big Green and don&#039;t even know it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no CVS or Walgreens and private property on 89A can be built and developed, it&#8217;s part of living in a city.  A CVS would be better than another hotel chain; hotels are always welcome in national monuments and national parks but inholders are not (homeowners are inholders).  The people who support the national monument in spite of all the dangers to People, view People as the Problem,i.e.; the Land is Good, People are Bad.  This is an ideology that they are married to like a religion. This is why you still see irrational comments from a few radical environmentalists.  They unknowingly work for Big Green and don&#8217;t even know it.</p>
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