Comments on: Sedona Man Challenges Feds Red Rock Pass Fee and Wins in Court

By: Aimee Madsen

Aimee Madsen — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 17:40:53 +0000

Good going Jim !!

By: Kitty Benzar

Kitty Benzar — Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:18:31 +0000

Those who don’t mind giving the Forest Service cash merely to go for a walk in the woods or sit by a stream, please go right ahead. You have always been free to donate any amount you want. If you are glad to pay $20 a year, why not give them $40 or $50? How about $95? That’s what it costs for an annual pass on the Tonto National Forest. You are not limited to giving them only the price of a pass, so shell out as much as you like.
But don’t tell me or Jim Smith that we have to pay fees that violate federal law. Citizens can’t do that and federal agencies shouldn’t be able to either.

By: Warren Woodward

Warren Woodward — Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:26:19 +0000

The issue is whether the RR Pass is legal or not. It is not.

All you who enjoy paying your “nominal fee” need to read the judge’s ruling. FS is in violation of the law. Period. Their arrogance in ignoring the law is quite obvious.

By: Meri Berger

Meri Berger — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:29:14 +0000

I agree with Bill K. that these passes are a “nominal amount to maintain and improve the lands we all enjoy.”

I believe Jim Smith was right to object in court over the ticket he received.

I thank the officer who issued it for making his or her rounds – what if Mr. Smith had needed some assistance? (This is just one reason I gladly pay the $20 each year!) Looking ahead, ticketing officers will do well to learn which areas allow parking without passes.

By: jocelyn buckner

jocelyn buckner — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:36:13 +0000

@Bill K: please check the books. I’m sure you’ll find that more is spent than made on the RR pass.
When you consider that 2011 will bring more and bigger taxes, it seems its the little guy that gets stuck with the bill. When will the Wall Street banksters pay their fair share? When will we get some COMMON SENSE in government?
The RR Pass was boondoggle to begin with. End it now. End the Federal Reserve while you’re at it.

By: Cassobe

Cassobe — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 05:06:04 +0000

Thank You Kitty for bringing Us the Good News. And, to Jim for standing up to His/Our rights.

Bill, Bill, Bill, You either work for the Red Rock Ranger District, or just believe everything They tell You.

Do You know that the Forestry no longer runs any of the Day Use or Campgrounds in the Red Rock District any longer? They’re run by Private Management Groups, and Forestry gets Their cut. Forestry says they can no longer afford to pick up trash and clean the restrooms in these areas; but don’t You believe Them, they never did. And, do You know who makes the improvements to these areas? The Management Group. Did You know, because of the resent changes, Local Residents are no longer able to purchase a Grand Annual Pass since last April, that allows them access to the Day Use areas, and have to spend $10 per visit now, until maybe, this is resolved. Have You heard that if/when the new Pass comes out for these areas, it will no longer cover Parking in the Forest? That will be another Annual Pass that will be costing $30 instead of $20. Don’t You worry Bill, the Forestry is a money making machine, and if They declare everything They bring in, They won’t need to touch Your income tax (if you have any).

By: Bill Kusner

Bill Kusner — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:33:44 +0000

Now that you have turned off one of the major funding to the RR Ranger District, I hope you are willing to support an increase in your income tax (if you have any) to pay for the maintenance of the the Forest. Nice to say that fees are a problem, but most people are not opposed to paying the nominal amount to maintain and improve the lands we all enjoy.