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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Rick Normand]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Steve segner aka Lonnie Lillie?,

Maybe someone should tell you two geniuses that The Tea Party disbanded years ago. Today, if the you search &quot;Tea Party&quot; you&#039;ll find it&#039;s a Canadian Rock group.  As to the disallowed signatures by the City Clerk on the Permanent Base Adjustment ballot issue you had better not count  your chickens before they hatch. This issue will be decided in the court room... not in the City Clerk&#039;s office.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve segner aka Lonnie Lillie?,</p>
<p>Maybe someone should tell you two geniuses that The Tea Party disbanded years ago. Today, if the you search &#8220;Tea Party&#8221; you&#8217;ll find it&#8217;s a Canadian Rock group.  As to the disallowed signatures by the City Clerk on the Permanent Base Adjustment ballot issue you had better not count  your chickens before they hatch. This issue will be decided in the court room&#8230; not in the City Clerk&#8217;s office.</p>
<p>JRN</p>
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		By: Gretchen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gretchen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 20:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AZ Liberty is perfect for SE... as they seem to be crybaby losers like the usual posters here on SE.

Money can’t by an election Kander and Mike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AZ Liberty is perfect for SE&#8230; as they seem to be crybaby losers like the usual posters here on SE.</p>
<p>Money can’t by an election Kander and Mike</p>
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		By: West Sedona Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[West Sedona Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 18:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No Tony, what bothers me is being disingenuous!

Signs that say voting No will improve traffic!.....No explanation?..Because there isnt a way to fix traffic unless its addressed!

You have opinions telling us about roads going through North side of 89A, but there is non!.....

Just lie your way to the top?...

All us regular people have seen, and heard enough.....The lies, the hate, the smearing of people....

Best of luck , on your campaign,as ballots are out now......I am VOTING YES, and voting for SANDY!....Good luck]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Tony, what bothers me is being disingenuous!</p>
<p>Signs that say voting No will improve traffic!&#8230;..No explanation?..Because there isnt a way to fix traffic unless its addressed!</p>
<p>You have opinions telling us about roads going through North side of 89A, but there is non!&#8230;..</p>
<p>Just lie your way to the top?&#8230;</p>
<p>All us regular people have seen, and heard enough&#8230;..The lies, the hate, the smearing of people&#8230;.</p>
<p>Best of luck , on your campaign,as ballots are out now&#8230;&#8230;I am VOTING YES, and voting for SANDY!&#8230;.Good luck</p>
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		By: Tony Tonsich		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Tonsich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 15:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What bothers me is apparently this is Sedona City Staff protecting you from your right to vote on something. They are using a technicality, real or not, to keep you from voting on a choice.  It makes you wonder who they are working for. It is quite clear it is not the voters. 

Cut their excessive spending and staffing off.  Vote No on Home Rule. No to incumbents who allow this outrage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What bothers me is apparently this is Sedona City Staff protecting you from your right to vote on something. They are using a technicality, real or not, to keep you from voting on a choice.  It makes you wonder who they are working for. It is quite clear it is not the voters. </p>
<p>Cut their excessive spending and staffing off.  Vote No on Home Rule. No to incumbents who allow this outrage.</p>
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		By: ARIZONA LIBERTY		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ARIZONA LIBERTY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 14:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NOT SO FAST, STEVE


Contact: Dwight Kadar					        FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Telephone: (281) 610-0725						           July 31, 2018
Email: dwightkadar@yahoo.com 
Website: www.arizonaliberty.us

City of Sedona accused of illegally attempting to block citizens’ ballot initiative

Arizona Liberty, a local political action committee, is filing a lawsuit in Yavapai County Superior Court against the City of Sedona for illegally invalidating its citizens’ initiative to place a Permanent Base Adjustment on the November 6, 2018 ballot.

A Permanent Base Adjustment lets voters decide how much of their taxpayer dollars the City of Sedona would be allowed to spend. Currently, there are no limits.

“This outrageous attempt to disenfranchise voters will not stand,” said Arizona Liberty PAC Treasurer Dwight Kadar. “We will go to court to protect citizens’ right to vote on the financial future of Sedona.” 

“On July 9th, Arizona Liberty submitted 639 signatures to Sedona City Clerk Susan Irvine to put the citizens’ initiative on the ballot, well above the required 429,” explained Kadar. “And on July 30th, we received written notification from the City Clerk that a total of 156 signatures were found to be ineligible.”

The City Clerk rejected them as ineligible because, in her words, “the signatures were not county of majority on petition.”  

Arizona Liberty has contacted election officials in both Coconino and Yavapai Counties and they have no knowledge of such language or requirement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOT SO FAST, STEVE</p>
<p>Contact: Dwight Kadar					        FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE<br />
Telephone: (281) 610-0725						           July 31, 2018<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:dwightkadar@yahoo.com">dwightkadar@yahoo.com</a><br />
Website: <a href="http://www.arizonaliberty.us" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.arizonaliberty.us</a></p>
<p>City of Sedona accused of illegally attempting to block citizens’ ballot initiative</p>
<p>Arizona Liberty, a local political action committee, is filing a lawsuit in Yavapai County Superior Court against the City of Sedona for illegally invalidating its citizens’ initiative to place a Permanent Base Adjustment on the November 6, 2018 ballot.</p>
<p>A Permanent Base Adjustment lets voters decide how much of their taxpayer dollars the City of Sedona would be allowed to spend. Currently, there are no limits.</p>
<p>“This outrageous attempt to disenfranchise voters will not stand,” said Arizona Liberty PAC Treasurer Dwight Kadar. “We will go to court to protect citizens’ right to vote on the financial future of Sedona.” </p>
<p>“On July 9th, Arizona Liberty submitted 639 signatures to Sedona City Clerk Susan Irvine to put the citizens’ initiative on the ballot, well above the required 429,” explained Kadar. “And on July 30th, we received written notification from the City Clerk that a total of 156 signatures were found to be ineligible.”</p>
<p>The City Clerk rejected them as ineligible because, in her words, “the signatures were not county of majority on petition.”  </p>
<p>Arizona Liberty has contacted election officials in both Coconino and Yavapai Counties and they have no knowledge of such language or requirement.</p>
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		By: William J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 14:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course the city sent the petition results to Segner @PCSedona. Would you have expected otherwise? He has them all in the palm of his hand. However one must wonder why in the world those circulating the petitions apparently weren&#039;t aware petition signatures must be county specific. What a waste of time. This makes it even more important to VOTE NO ON HOME RULE. PLEASE!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the city sent the petition results to Segner @PCSedona. Would you have expected otherwise? He has them all in the palm of his hand. However one must wonder why in the world those circulating the petitions apparently weren&#8217;t aware petition signatures must be county specific. What a waste of time. This makes it even more important to VOTE NO ON HOME RULE. PLEASE!</p>
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		By: PC, Sedona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PC, Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 01:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The city sent Segner this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city sent Segner this?</p>
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		By: Steve segner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve segner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So much for PBA in the Sedona tea party trying to take over the Verde Valley 

Initiative petition invalidated
Post Date:07/31/2018 1:28 p.m.
July 31, 2018

SEDONA, Ariz. –  The Sedona City Clerk has informed proponents of a citizen initiative to establish a permanent base adjustment to the city’s expenditure authority that their proposal has failed to qualify for the Nov. 6 ballot.

The proposal failed following completion of a comprehensive review process as established by the Arizona Legislature with guidance from the secretary of state. The final phase of the process included receipt of random sampling results from the Yavapai and Coconino county recorders which resulted in a determination by the city clerk that 16 percent of the petition signatures are invalid. The projected number of valid signatures that remain is below the statutory requirement.

Read the official notices provided to the petition applicants on July 30.  22-page PDF

Proponents of the permanent base adjustment sought to place a proposal on the city’s general election ballot to establish a permanent expenditure limit of approximately $25.2 million subsequent to the Home Rule vote scheduled for the Aug. 28 primary ballot by the Sedona City Council.

The process for removing petition and ineligible signatures is governed by Arizona law, A.R.S 19-121.01-04.

The city clerk first removes petition sheets that do not meet requirements for form. After this process is completed the clerk reviews the sheets to determine the county of the majority of the signers and removes all signatures of those not in the county of the majority on each sheet. Then the signature sheets are grouped by county of registration of the majority of those signing.

If the signatures that remain meet the constitutional minimum, the city clerk requests that the Yavapai and Coconino county recorders check specific signatures among random-sample sheets for verification that the signer is a qualified elector. In the case of an initiative, including the Sedona permanent base adjustment initiative, this is a random sample of five percent. The signatures selected for verification by the county are randomly generated by the Arizona Secretary of State.

The city of Sedona will conduct its 2018 primary election Tuesday, Aug. 28, and the general election, if necessary, Tuesday, Nov. 6.

  -0-

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for PBA in the Sedona tea party trying to take over the Verde Valley </p>
<p>Initiative petition invalidated<br />
Post Date:07/31/2018 1:28 p.m.<br />
July 31, 2018</p>
<p>SEDONA, Ariz. –  The Sedona City Clerk has informed proponents of a citizen initiative to establish a permanent base adjustment to the city’s expenditure authority that their proposal has failed to qualify for the Nov. 6 ballot.</p>
<p>The proposal failed following completion of a comprehensive review process as established by the Arizona Legislature with guidance from the secretary of state. The final phase of the process included receipt of random sampling results from the Yavapai and Coconino county recorders which resulted in a determination by the city clerk that 16 percent of the petition signatures are invalid. The projected number of valid signatures that remain is below the statutory requirement.</p>
<p>Read the official notices provided to the petition applicants on July 30.  22-page PDF</p>
<p>Proponents of the permanent base adjustment sought to place a proposal on the city’s general election ballot to establish a permanent expenditure limit of approximately $25.2 million subsequent to the Home Rule vote scheduled for the Aug. 28 primary ballot by the Sedona City Council.</p>
<p>The process for removing petition and ineligible signatures is governed by Arizona law, A.R.S 19-121.01-04.</p>
<p>The city clerk first removes petition sheets that do not meet requirements for form. After this process is completed the clerk reviews the sheets to determine the county of the majority of the signers and removes all signatures of those not in the county of the majority on each sheet. Then the signature sheets are grouped by county of registration of the majority of those signing.</p>
<p>If the signatures that remain meet the constitutional minimum, the city clerk requests that the Yavapai and Coconino county recorders check specific signatures among random-sample sheets for verification that the signer is a qualified elector. In the case of an initiative, including the Sedona permanent base adjustment initiative, this is a random sample of five percent. The signatures selected for verification by the county are randomly generated by the Arizona Secretary of State.</p>
<p>The city of Sedona will conduct its 2018 primary election Tuesday, Aug. 28, and the general election, if necessary, Tuesday, Nov. 6.</p>
<p>  -0-</p>
<p>Return to full list &gt;&gt;</p>
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		By: Laura, west Sedona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura, west Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 18:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[City may have backed off for now or is hiding it in a back room! Don&#039;t trust them. I know some of these people and I know what they say in private.

VOTING NO is your only control over your neighborhoods. BELIEVE IT !! They&#039;re destroying my neighborhood, they are setting to destroy yours. Pay attention Les Springs! You better be voting NO or wait to see what surprise is in it for you. Pay attention Foothills South, you better be paying attention and Vote No or wait to see what else is going to destroy your properties! Chapel area you&#039;re slated for road access! VOTE NO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>City may have backed off for now or is hiding it in a back room! Don&#8217;t trust them. I know some of these people and I know what they say in private.</p>
<p>VOTING NO is your only control over your neighborhoods. BELIEVE IT !! They&#8217;re destroying my neighborhood, they are setting to destroy yours. Pay attention Les Springs! You better be voting NO or wait to see what surprise is in it for you. Pay attention Foothills South, you better be paying attention and Vote No or wait to see what else is going to destroy your properties! Chapel area you&#8217;re slated for road access! VOTE NO.</p>
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		By: Joan Shannon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joan Shannon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2018 18:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Roberts no doubt was referring to the connector roads to which the City received such backlash they have backed off for now. 

They are destroying neighborhoods. Through the same neighborhoods south of 89 they now plan a paved bike path all the way to Sunset Dr. They plan to destroy the environment and install culverts in the ancient wash through all of them, the cover up and pave it. For what? For those who &quot;might&quot; like to ride a bike but, afraid to in traffic. 

The wash has never flooded any private property and the water in it after a monsoon is substance for wildlife, the smaller creatures we don&#039;t see and for the vegetation either side. The cost: $l.3 million per mile. Same plan for the north side of 89a but, that does not involve a wash. With so many vacation rental everywhere it will be tourists who will use the bikes in those homes and take a &quot;leisurely ride through Sedona&#039;s quaint and quiet neighborhoods&quot;. 

SIM also wants to destroy my Uptown neighborhood with extreme traffic changes for no justified reason and lies to defend the plan which I will write about separately.

The City plans to spend $34 million on future bike paths through Forest Service land but, having to access through residential neighborhoods. All on the SIM website. It is frightening. Another INVASION into a residential area where we are all happy with the way it is now. 

Does the City/Department of Public Works listen. Certainly not. They do not care about us residents any more. The tourists are the constituents so to speak. Joan Shannon 315 Smith Rd. 282-4566]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Roberts no doubt was referring to the connector roads to which the City received such backlash they have backed off for now. </p>
<p>They are destroying neighborhoods. Through the same neighborhoods south of 89 they now plan a paved bike path all the way to Sunset Dr. They plan to destroy the environment and install culverts in the ancient wash through all of them, the cover up and pave it. For what? For those who &#8220;might&#8221; like to ride a bike but, afraid to in traffic. </p>
<p>The wash has never flooded any private property and the water in it after a monsoon is substance for wildlife, the smaller creatures we don&#8217;t see and for the vegetation either side. The cost: $l.3 million per mile. Same plan for the north side of 89a but, that does not involve a wash. With so many vacation rental everywhere it will be tourists who will use the bikes in those homes and take a &#8220;leisurely ride through Sedona&#8217;s quaint and quiet neighborhoods&#8221;. </p>
<p>SIM also wants to destroy my Uptown neighborhood with extreme traffic changes for no justified reason and lies to defend the plan which I will write about separately.</p>
<p>The City plans to spend $34 million on future bike paths through Forest Service land but, having to access through residential neighborhoods. All on the SIM website. It is frightening. Another INVASION into a residential area where we are all happy with the way it is now. </p>
<p>Does the City/Department of Public Works listen. Certainly not. They do not care about us residents any more. The tourists are the constituents so to speak. Joan Shannon 315 Smith Rd. 282-4566</p>
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