Comments on: Sedona Fire Chief Responds to Dave Norton, VEA Manager Email

By: Nathan, Sedona

Nathan, Sedona — Thu, 20 Jun 2019 02:53:25 +0000

@John Daniels W Sedona: and why does it disturb you that words written back on March 21, 2011, remain relevant in June of 2019? Hey, man, if the shoe fits …….
what’s the beef?

By: John Daniels W Sedona

John Daniels W Sedona — Wed, 19 Jun 2019 20:09:12 +0000

Are you kidding me!!!! This thread started on March 21, 2011 and has just now resurfaced again????

Why does SE also such nonsense to re-appear to waste their space.

I have the best of ideas, If you don’t like Segners postings, STOP READING THEM!! Segner has just as much of a right to post as does many others like DJV and her sidekick DV.

By: F.Y.I.

F.Y.I. — Wed, 19 Jun 2019 18:56:33 +0000

Wrong again, steve. It’s the Sedona Fire District. The Sedona Fire Department you mention fails to exist.

By: Steve Segner

Steve Segner — Wed, 19 Jun 2019 18:43:29 +0000

Area Residents says: ” We” are sick of the person ID’d as Steve Segner (under a variety of spellings) apparently a self-appointed know-it-all on absolutely e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g! It’s also our understanding by checking Google offerings Mr. Segner (segner whatever) also maintains his primary residence in Oak Creek Canyon.

I for got the Sedona Eye is just for “bashing” not positive or factual information.
Anyway,
Fact I am a Sedona resident, per the state of Arizona, checking Google is not how it works , Google will also show address for us in Scottsdale and west Sedona and up town, if you do not like the law take it up with the state.

Area Residents says: It remains our opinions that a very justified reason for the number of fire houses necessary here is to primarily accommodate the large number of calls relating to tourists. ( get over the Tourist thing, they were in Sedona first.)

The study by the fire dist said the tourist and commercial business were paying more then there fair share of the fire dist tax. You can get a copy for the fire dist.

250 sq. Miles to cover and you want less service? The majority of calls are for locals in need of medical aid and fast.
Sedona fire must respond to calls from 179 and state hwy17 all the way up oak Creek Canyon, and we need a new station up the Canyon.
People in Sedona want first class service and we can afford it .

By: Area Residents

Area Residents — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 22:50:54 +0000

We live within the Sedona/Oak Creek Fire & School Districts – unrelated to incorporated Sedona. We are sick of the person ID’d as Steve Segner (under a variety of spellings) apparently a self-appointed know-it-all on absolutely e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g! It’s also our understanding by checking Google offerings Mr. Segner (segner whatever) also maintains his primary residence in Oak Creek Canyon – out of city limits but also within the mentioned school/fire districts.

It remains our opinions that a very justified reason for the number of fire houses necessary here is to primarily accommodate the large number of calls relating to tourists.

So once again, it is the residents here in the designated fire district who are paying through the nose (and elsewhere) to accommodate the over-publicizing of Sedona via the idiotic regional chamber of commerce.

Why not assess their members for the majority of the cost related expenses because of THEM and the person steve Segner who appears to be their designated mouthpiece for their overindulged quest for more tourists.

Indeed it’s time for major changes. It’s true – Sedona City Council has no shame.

By: Watch it burn

Watch it burn — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:47:22 +0000

In my opinion If you look up the old video of the biggest fire in Oak Creek Canyon, you can see Sedona Fire District sitting in their trucks in the canyon just out of city limits watching the fire spread. They were waiting for word to see whose jurisdiction the fire was in.

The old Sedona Fire Chief quit (deleted by editor) Sedona. (Deleted by Editor) he had been on the City of Sedona Budget committee. He was called out on the overspending and presented (with) proof of same. Our present city council has no shame.

By: steve Segner

steve Segner — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 17:27:52 +0000

If you are going to use number for comparison use area of service not population, The Sedona fire dept cover over 250 sq. Miles . We live in rural area with a lot of open space. In phoenix of example you could cover the same population with just one fire house. Lets not compare apples to oranges. We need the best fire dept we can afford, most of there work is medical and minutes count our larger area of service will of course cost more then in a city like Phoenix. by 3 today we will have a new fire chief, and our old chief was not forced out…..

By: Citizen Committee Member

Citizen Committee Member — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 02:05:23 +0000

Dave Norton? See his present involvement with Big Park and the mega hotels. Read the article above and all its comments. Do something residents of VOC, VOCA and other associations.

By: Concerned Citizen

Concerned Citizen — Tue, 26 Apr 2011 01:49:59 +0000

As one of the 15-member citizen’s committee (of which Dave Norton was an active participant) that prepared the requirements to pick a the new SFD Fire Chief, I take great exception seeing his comments about the SFD and its Chief. After his involvement in our committee, he went as far as applying for the Chief’s position…in fact, he was one of the 50 applicants who originally applied for the position AFTER he was instrumental in setting the minimum requirements for the position to be recruited. In my opinion, that was a clear violation of conflict of interest rules on his part and any comments he makes should be viewed with great caution.

Is he still trying to get that position after the present Chief is forced out?

By: Zeke

Zeke — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 07:53:02 +0000

Dave Norton wrote: For many years, the Fire Board was made up of members who were very close to the Fire District so the mil rate was kept up to generate a windfall supply of cash each year.

A comment to Dave Norton: This sentence was hitting below the belt since the new fire board and fire chief Hazime are not and were not part of that “spend it” group. Why all the ganging up? And why write as a homeowners manager and not as Citizen Norton?

My HOA did not send out an opinion letter on the fire department and its board and budget, and that is what I expect from it. Our HOA dues are meant to improve lifestyles and not advocate for cutting local services. We bought homes in Sedona and not other towns knowing our rates are higher and service levels affluent.

Let the fire chief and board trim budgets like everyone else is and is rightly expected to do, but Norton et al, this fire tax is not a major issue.

Now I might like Norton if we met, but he should know that I, and almost everyone I know that resides in Sedona, well we just don’t give a fig about how much we pay for fire taxes, because AZ taxes are substantially less than in the states we hailed from prior or continue to call home during part of each year.

Appreciate it if everyone would go about the business of commenting on the fire department budget and its oversight with more civility. Frankly I’m tired of hearing about a few dollars in fire tax savings like it has great importance.

Need to spend some energy on a good cause? Get Congress to do something about derivatives. The cost of one tank of gasoline is by far a greater economic disaster on local citizens wallets than the entire annual local fire tax burden. One issue requires intelligence and the other issue requires emotion. Which issue should be your priority and is not?

And yes, a thanks to Surber for the educational tax point.. Bob