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		By: jimmy john		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-council-smoke-and-mirrors/comment-page-1/#comment-43179</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimmy john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 05:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the splash park will be running from June to September.....

3 months usage this year, to the tune of $269,188.10.00 to build, not including water and sewage fees. 

Maybe it&#039;s because I graduated from a public school, but I can&#039;t help but think that  it&#039;d been cheaper to rent a bounce house and/or water slide/jumper for the three months for as many kids are in the target age group.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the splash park will be running from June to September&#8230;..</p>
<p>3 months usage this year, to the tune of $269,188.10.00 to build, not including water and sewage fees. </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because I graduated from a public school, but I can&#8217;t help but think that  it&#8217;d been cheaper to rent a bounce house and/or water slide/jumper for the three months for as many kids are in the target age group.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 02:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wait a minute. 

Didn&#039;t the mayor say that the people who showed up for smart meters meetings at city hall didn&#039;t represent the community? Didn&#039;t the council say that the number of residents opting out AND attending meetings still didn&#039;t send a message to them?

But a few kids that weren&#039;t even asked, who cannot even drive, whose parents aren&#039;t even all city taxpayers, whose parents probably work during the day, get hundreds of thousands of city dollars spent on them AND thousands of gallons of priceless water dumped without recycling without a blink of a fiscal or responsible eye?

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute. </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t the mayor say that the people who showed up for smart meters meetings at city hall didn&#8217;t represent the community? Didn&#8217;t the council say that the number of residents opting out AND attending meetings still didn&#8217;t send a message to them?</p>
<p>But a few kids that weren&#8217;t even asked, who cannot even drive, whose parents aren&#8217;t even all city taxpayers, whose parents probably work during the day, get hundreds of thousands of city dollars spent on them AND thousands of gallons of priceless water dumped without recycling without a blink of a fiscal or responsible eye?</p>
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		By: Lisa B.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 02:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[oooh, burn!

 @long time resident,  betcha that one is gonna leave a mark!

No vote on Home Rule, seems more believable day by day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oooh, burn!</p>
<p> @long time resident,  betcha that one is gonna leave a mark!</p>
<p>No vote on Home Rule, seems more believable day by day.</p>
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		By: Splash Pad ...or is it Park now?		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-council-smoke-and-mirrors/comment-page-1/#comment-43088</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Splash Pad ...or is it Park now?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2014 19:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Long Time Resident

How about a big heaping slice of Crow-Pie.  

Do you recall saying: “No where in the proposal did any responsible person call that project a “splash park”.  Scroll up, if you require a refresher.

If you haven&#039;t seen the latest, here&#039;s a link:

https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-water-park-project-underway/comment-page-1#comment-43078

oh, and by the way, not everyone is your phantom &quot;tony&quot;, there are other people out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Long Time Resident</p>
<p>How about a big heaping slice of Crow-Pie.  </p>
<p>Do you recall saying: “No where in the proposal did any responsible person call that project a “splash park”.  Scroll up, if you require a refresher.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t seen the latest, here&#8217;s a link:</p>
<p><a href="https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-water-park-project-underway/comment-page-1#comment-43078" rel="ugc">https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-water-park-project-underway/comment-page-1#comment-43078</a></p>
<p>oh, and by the way, not everyone is your phantom &#8220;tony&#8221;, there are other people out there.</p>
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		By: Citizen not Subject		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 17:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once again, I will suggest we the people, take a page from some other states rules and implement a simple voting regulation, RE:

If at least 51% of registered voters who voted in the previous general election do not vote in any special election or budgetary election of any type, the election is not validated.

This prevents voting manipulation such as Mr. Twombly suggests is being attempted here in Sedona.

Not a super majority just a simple 51% of voters who are involved enough and who care enough to go and vote.

Just a simple thought from a simple guy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, I will suggest we the people, take a page from some other states rules and implement a simple voting regulation, RE:</p>
<p>If at least 51% of registered voters who voted in the previous general election do not vote in any special election or budgetary election of any type, the election is not validated.</p>
<p>This prevents voting manipulation such as Mr. Twombly suggests is being attempted here in Sedona.</p>
<p>Not a super majority just a simple 51% of voters who are involved enough and who care enough to go and vote.</p>
<p>Just a simple thought from a simple guy.</p>
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		By: Loving Sedona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loving Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 05:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No need to put a sprinkler on the lawn. The children of Sedona will now have a splash pad to cool off under this Summer.. Thank you Sedona.. btw how do you know what&#039;s age appropriate for a splash pad.. Don&#039;t know you , but based on the hatred you seem to carry, it&#039;s been many many many years that would have any dealing with that age group.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to put a sprinkler on the lawn. The children of Sedona will now have a splash pad to cool off under this Summer.. Thank you Sedona.. btw how do you know what&#8217;s age appropriate for a splash pad.. Don&#8217;t know you , but based on the hatred you seem to carry, it&#8217;s been many many many years that would have any dealing with that age group.</p>
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		By: James Garfield		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Garfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 04:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re splitting the hair of a Splash Pad at a Park? Really? All the stats and figures and that is what you hone in on? Is that because that is all you&#039;ve got? Have you no stats or facts to present?

You think everyone is this Tony? Seems that Tony writes under his own name.  Time to up the paranoia meds dosage. I hear menopause makes you crazy. 

Awww,  does that make you mad? You going to start childish name calling? I&#039;m rubber and you&#039;re glue, or.... I know you are but what am I?

Why on Earth would anyone find you credible? 

Time to put on your black Nikes, drink some grape koolaid and wait for Hailey&#039;s Comet to come carry you home.  Maybe you are the reason there is a warning label  on the blow dryer  advising not to use it while showering or in the tub. 

There is a saying that goes, better to let people think you are an idiot rather than open your mouth and prove it. You should consider that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re splitting the hair of a Splash Pad at a Park? Really? All the stats and figures and that is what you hone in on? Is that because that is all you&#8217;ve got? Have you no stats or facts to present?</p>
<p>You think everyone is this Tony? Seems that Tony writes under his own name.  Time to up the paranoia meds dosage. I hear menopause makes you crazy. </p>
<p>Awww,  does that make you mad? You going to start childish name calling? I&#8217;m rubber and you&#8217;re glue, or&#8230;. I know you are but what am I?</p>
<p>Why on Earth would anyone find you credible? </p>
<p>Time to put on your black Nikes, drink some grape koolaid and wait for Hailey&#8217;s Comet to come carry you home.  Maybe you are the reason there is a warning label  on the blow dryer  advising not to use it while showering or in the tub. </p>
<p>There is a saying that goes, better to let people think you are an idiot rather than open your mouth and prove it. You should consider that.</p>
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		By: Long Time Resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Long Time Resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 04:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Tony Marian Tonsich

Did you read what you wrote?

Since when is a Splash PARK the same as a  Splash PAD.

For someone who&#039;s so focused on details, when it suits you, one would think that you would know the difference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony Marian Tonsich</p>
<p>Did you read what you wrote?</p>
<p>Since when is a Splash PARK the same as a  Splash PAD.</p>
<p>For someone who&#8217;s so focused on details, when it suits you, one would think that you would know the difference.</p>
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		By: Splash Pad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Splash Pad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 00:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Long Time Resident 

You claim &quot;No where in the proposal did any responsible person call that project a “splash park”.  

Feel free to take a hike.... over to the park and view the giant board hanging on the fence.  &quot;Sunset Park Splashpad&quot; Project.  Project amount: $269,188.10.

You say: &quot;I do think that building it was a mistake because the water isn’t recycled.&quot;  

Smoke is currently billowing out of Oak Creek Canyon and Sedona is just going to flush perfectly good water down the drain, gallons after gallons, all the while increasing the sewer taxes for the 4,973 occupied homes?  

And you don&#039;t think that is justification for voting NO on Home Rule to cease wasteful spending and perpetual bad decisions?  

@ Loving Sedona

Perhaps you need to go to remedial math classes.  It is LESS than 1,000 children in the provided three demographic statistics aged 0 to 14 years old.  

The park is not age appropriate for most of the 0-5 aged children and certainly not the 10-14 aged children. (Unless they are offspring related to you and are intellectually stunted beneath their age group).

Even if you are correct....  and all 950 children attend the park (even those in the 0-5 age group who aren&#039;t crawling or moving on their own and the 10-14 year olds who have outgrown the park play-dates)         ..... there are 365 days in the year, so what? 2.6 children per day is justification for flushing gallons and gallons of water down the tank?  When Arizona is experiencing a Severe Drought?


Seriously people, the only sensible vote is NO for HOME RULE. 

 Time to curb the &quot;spend it all so we have to ask for more&quot; mentality.   It&#039;s not their money, it&#039;s yours. 

If you want a splash pad put a sprinkler on in the front yard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Long Time Resident </p>
<p>You claim &#8220;No where in the proposal did any responsible person call that project a “splash park”.  </p>
<p>Feel free to take a hike&#8230;. over to the park and view the giant board hanging on the fence.  &#8220;Sunset Park Splashpad&#8221; Project.  Project amount: $269,188.10.</p>
<p>You say: &#8220;I do think that building it was a mistake because the water isn’t recycled.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Smoke is currently billowing out of Oak Creek Canyon and Sedona is just going to flush perfectly good water down the drain, gallons after gallons, all the while increasing the sewer taxes for the 4,973 occupied homes?  </p>
<p>And you don&#8217;t think that is justification for voting NO on Home Rule to cease wasteful spending and perpetual bad decisions?  </p>
<p>@ Loving Sedona</p>
<p>Perhaps you need to go to remedial math classes.  It is LESS than 1,000 children in the provided three demographic statistics aged 0 to 14 years old.  </p>
<p>The park is not age appropriate for most of the 0-5 aged children and certainly not the 10-14 aged children. (Unless they are offspring related to you and are intellectually stunted beneath their age group).</p>
<p>Even if you are correct&#8230;.  and all 950 children attend the park (even those in the 0-5 age group who aren&#8217;t crawling or moving on their own and the 10-14 year olds who have outgrown the park play-dates)         &#8230;.. there are 365 days in the year, so what? 2.6 children per day is justification for flushing gallons and gallons of water down the tank?  When Arizona is experiencing a Severe Drought?</p>
<p>Seriously people, the only sensible vote is NO for HOME RULE. </p>
<p> Time to curb the &#8220;spend it all so we have to ask for more&#8221; mentality.   It&#8217;s not their money, it&#8217;s yours. </p>
<p>If you want a splash pad put a sprinkler on in the front yard.</p>
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		By: Loving sedona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loving sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 21:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tricking the fools

Ok you proved my point that&#039;s a thousand kids who will enjoy the park!!

As far as no kids yesterday, might I suggest you get out more..]]></description>
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<p>Ok you proved my point that&#8217;s a thousand kids who will enjoy the park!!</p>
<p>As far as no kids yesterday, might I suggest you get out more..</p>
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