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		By: Win		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Win]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2021 23:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jean Jenks was right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean Jenks was right.</p>
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		By: Here We Go Again		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Here We Go Again]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2017 20:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So based on 12 or so speakers at a council meeting its headlined the public supports high density housing. Really? And who were those speakers anyway? None were speaking for me but of course I&#039;m not a member of the chamber of commerce. Yep - J. Wesselhoff CEO of the questionably not-for-profit regional special interest group spoke on behalf of those members - all ???? how many ???? 800-1000?  Check the list, folks, and count the number not even living within Sedona city limits and yet they have say-so to impact the zoning in OUR subdivisions? What&#039;s wrong with this picture? oh yes - other speakers were also representative of Verde Valley interests, too. so Sedona remains big brother to expansive surroundings. Word is out - they are chumps to sad stories and love punishing those of us living here because, as they tell, we don&#039;t pay our fair share!!!!  REALLY????? and just how much would that amount to anyhow???  Enough is never enough for those cash  hogs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So based on 12 or so speakers at a council meeting its headlined the public supports high density housing. Really? And who were those speakers anyway? None were speaking for me but of course I&#8217;m not a member of the chamber of commerce. Yep &#8211; J. Wesselhoff CEO of the questionably not-for-profit regional special interest group spoke on behalf of those members &#8211; all ???? how many ???? 800-1000?  Check the list, folks, and count the number not even living within Sedona city limits and yet they have say-so to impact the zoning in OUR subdivisions? What&#8217;s wrong with this picture? oh yes &#8211; other speakers were also representative of Verde Valley interests, too. so Sedona remains big brother to expansive surroundings. Word is out &#8211; they are chumps to sad stories and love punishing those of us living here because, as they tell, we don&#8217;t pay our fair share!!!!  REALLY????? and just how much would that amount to anyhow???  Enough is never enough for those cash  hogs.</p>
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		By: N. Baer		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-council-may-disregard-community-plan-to-allow-high-density-zoning/comment-page-1/#comment-152699</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N. Baer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2017 16:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reply To &quot;In Business Uptown,&quot; We convince more residents to participate in our local government, especially those with vision and ethics, and we vote for people who represent all of us and not just carpetbaggers, IMO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply To &#8220;In Business Uptown,&#8221; We convince more residents to participate in our local government, especially those with vision and ethics, and we vote for people who represent all of us and not just carpetbaggers, IMO.</p>
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		By: In Business Uptown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[In Business Uptown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In business but for how long? Didn&#039;t really know where to post this comment - any of several articles would work because they all lead to the same direction: Socialism.

ID-ing myself obviously would be suicide, and demise of my career in Sedona is already on the horizon what with the .5% increase in sales tax. What people don&#039;t realize is we pay that tax on our rental leases. With low end business leases at 4-5,000 monthly and people complain about &quot;affordable&quot; workforce housing? Tax another half percent onto $4,000/$5,000 for a business location? R U nuts? Others have sent editorials which have appeared elsewhere. We are on the road to ruin. Seriously. 

The one comment here that caught my eye is the one about Coconino County withdrawing from city of Sedona jurisdiction. Oh how they would hate to lose all that commercial tax (hotels - Poco, LaBerge, Amara, Los Abrigados - to mention a few - bed &#038; sales tax say bye bye to Sedona as Coco County says &quot;welcome and bless you.&quot;) Plus, maybe we could have the County Sheriff re-established as a substation at the uptown fire station? Better yet - it would put the unofficial City Visitors Center manned, promoted, and profits reaped by the chamber of commerce out of business - at least in that location. Ha - move the boundary and the city would have to go elsewhere.

Question: how do we make it happen?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In business but for how long? Didn&#8217;t really know where to post this comment &#8211; any of several articles would work because they all lead to the same direction: Socialism.</p>
<p>ID-ing myself obviously would be suicide, and demise of my career in Sedona is already on the horizon what with the .5% increase in sales tax. What people don&#8217;t realize is we pay that tax on our rental leases. With low end business leases at 4-5,000 monthly and people complain about &#8220;affordable&#8221; workforce housing? Tax another half percent onto $4,000/$5,000 for a business location? R U nuts? Others have sent editorials which have appeared elsewhere. We are on the road to ruin. Seriously. </p>
<p>The one comment here that caught my eye is the one about Coconino County withdrawing from city of Sedona jurisdiction. Oh how they would hate to lose all that commercial tax (hotels &#8211; Poco, LaBerge, Amara, Los Abrigados &#8211; to mention a few &#8211; bed &amp; sales tax say bye bye to Sedona as Coco County says &#8220;welcome and bless you.&#8221;) Plus, maybe we could have the County Sheriff re-established as a substation at the uptown fire station? Better yet &#8211; it would put the unofficial City Visitors Center manned, promoted, and profits reaped by the chamber of commerce out of business &#8211; at least in that location. Ha &#8211; move the boundary and the city would have to go elsewhere.</p>
<p>Question: how do we make it happen?</p>
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		By: N. Baer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N. Baer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2017 19:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Intentional or not, this place is becoming a nighmare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intentional or not, this place is becoming a nighmare.</p>
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		By: Lennie K. Uptown Sedona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lennie K. Uptown Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2017 18:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The nerve of this city council is way over the top. A friend tipped me off about that recent council meeting and because I didn&#039;t believe what I was told took time to watch that portion. As if it wasn&#039;t bad enough they all voted to support the wording change in the community plan to include higher density development, that they ADDED to include the east side of Sedona down SR179 should be considered way way beyond their authority. For them to openly display that overstepping of arrogance of power should be unacceptable. Where&#039;s the city attorney on these overwhelming decisions being made that in the future can greatly impact the value of our properties? Councilman Currivan was the ONLY one who suggested it might be a good idea to find out how the residents felt about this change. No such luck!

And if Nepenthe &#038; Fairfield and a few others hadn&#039;t breached their contracts with the city we would probably have substantial workforce housing. This new policy of having city council micro-control us is too much. And adding insult to injury was when that Pilgrimage Site promoter JT wanted for the council to take a further step at a future meeting to give them even more authority to push through high density by watering down the current process.

Does anyone remember back to the time when Dennis Wells (I think was his name) served as Coconino County Supervisor and represented those of us in Sedona? Well there was a grassroots effort working through Wells to examine the process to extract (cede?) the Coconino County portion of Sedona from the incorporated area. Wells for some reason didn&#039;t fulfill his entire term so the process was dropped. However maybe through our current Supervisor Matt Ryan, we might again look into this matter and be removed from the strangulation and control presently being put upon us by city authority. Anyone else agree?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nerve of this city council is way over the top. A friend tipped me off about that recent council meeting and because I didn&#8217;t believe what I was told took time to watch that portion. As if it wasn&#8217;t bad enough they all voted to support the wording change in the community plan to include higher density development, that they ADDED to include the east side of Sedona down SR179 should be considered way way beyond their authority. For them to openly display that overstepping of arrogance of power should be unacceptable. Where&#8217;s the city attorney on these overwhelming decisions being made that in the future can greatly impact the value of our properties? Councilman Currivan was the ONLY one who suggested it might be a good idea to find out how the residents felt about this change. No such luck!</p>
<p>And if Nepenthe &amp; Fairfield and a few others hadn&#8217;t breached their contracts with the city we would probably have substantial workforce housing. This new policy of having city council micro-control us is too much. And adding insult to injury was when that Pilgrimage Site promoter JT wanted for the council to take a further step at a future meeting to give them even more authority to push through high density by watering down the current process.</p>
<p>Does anyone remember back to the time when Dennis Wells (I think was his name) served as Coconino County Supervisor and represented those of us in Sedona? Well there was a grassroots effort working through Wells to examine the process to extract (cede?) the Coconino County portion of Sedona from the incorporated area. Wells for some reason didn&#8217;t fulfill his entire term so the process was dropped. However maybe through our current Supervisor Matt Ryan, we might again look into this matter and be removed from the strangulation and control presently being put upon us by city authority. Anyone else agree?</p>
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		By: F.Y.I.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F.Y.I.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Word has it that Steve Segner is behind bringing this density increase to the forefront.  No cap on the zoning when there&#039;s not only a problem with bumper to bumper traffic but also with disposal of excess effluent at the WWTP is egregious. The 45-unit low cost apartment complex the Council approved on Wednesday at 89A/Pinon Dr wants more sewer rights than permitted under the adopted Sewer Master Plan (Ref: RRN, Oct. 25, 2017) and has only 1 parking space per apt. 

I agree with Eddie that Citizen Engagement is a sad turn of events. According to the rumor mill Karen picks who the participants are. For sure City Hall, doesn&#039;t disclose when and where the meetings are, take input, and provide minutes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word has it that Steve Segner is behind bringing this density increase to the forefront.  No cap on the zoning when there&#8217;s not only a problem with bumper to bumper traffic but also with disposal of excess effluent at the WWTP is egregious. The 45-unit low cost apartment complex the Council approved on Wednesday at 89A/Pinon Dr wants more sewer rights than permitted under the adopted Sewer Master Plan (Ref: RRN, Oct. 25, 2017) and has only 1 parking space per apt. </p>
<p>I agree with Eddie that Citizen Engagement is a sad turn of events. According to the rumor mill Karen picks who the participants are. For sure City Hall, doesn&#8217;t disclose when and where the meetings are, take input, and provide minutes.</p>
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		By: @@Stacked Deck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@@Stacked Deck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2017 15:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We do have many workers that live in Sedona. Some want more for less and go outside the city to get more. Their choice. 10 minute drive to work from outside the city limits isn&#039;t the issue. BUT gifting the regional chamber 3 million dollars a year to clog 179 is. The unintended consequences of your so called marketing has reduced the liveability in the region.  VOC has always housed many workers also. Now the flow to voc is a traffic jam. 
You are blind. You and your attitude have destroyed Sedona. Visitors don&#039;t like your Sedona and won&#039;t return. Your a drive through one stop show. All the special interest groups line up under the direction of staff. Gang rule - BS business lobbying for their own benefits. No one FORCED the businesses to go into business here, they were WELL aware that  what they dealing with and rode that horse. Lobbyist - opportunists - takers - greedy BS are they ones that are benefiting.
You fooled the public with your fake community plan. By the way you treat residents you have created that many auxiliary dwellings and extra rooms to rent have become vacation rentals. Before they housed workers. Karma awaits you. fake community with a fake community plan. Disincorporate you don&#039;t deserve to be a city.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do have many workers that live in Sedona. Some want more for less and go outside the city to get more. Their choice. 10 minute drive to work from outside the city limits isn&#8217;t the issue. BUT gifting the regional chamber 3 million dollars a year to clog 179 is. The unintended consequences of your so called marketing has reduced the liveability in the region.  VOC has always housed many workers also. Now the flow to voc is a traffic jam.<br />
You are blind. You and your attitude have destroyed Sedona. Visitors don&#8217;t like your Sedona and won&#8217;t return. Your a drive through one stop show. All the special interest groups line up under the direction of staff. Gang rule &#8211; BS business lobbying for their own benefits. No one FORCED the businesses to go into business here, they were WELL aware that  what they dealing with and rode that horse. Lobbyist &#8211; opportunists &#8211; takers &#8211; greedy BS are they ones that are benefiting.<br />
You fooled the public with your fake community plan. By the way you treat residents you have created that many auxiliary dwellings and extra rooms to rent have become vacation rentals. Before they housed workers. Karma awaits you. fake community with a fake community plan. Disincorporate you don&#8217;t deserve to be a city.</p>
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		By: Alarmed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alarmed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How long will affordable housing remain affordable (if doable) and will Sedona&#039;s low paid workforce have sufficient income to pay the rent?

Scott Jablow made the Motion to approve the Resolution amending the Community Plan and Jon Thompson seconded it - infrastructure problems be damned.

No CAP on density was set. Tom Lamkin said he would be willing to set the CAP at 350 units per acre, but he could go with 50. Mayor Moriarty was not in favor of a CAP on zoning.

Vote these jokes out of office next year if they apply for reelection.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long will affordable housing remain affordable (if doable) and will Sedona&#8217;s low paid workforce have sufficient income to pay the rent?</p>
<p>Scott Jablow made the Motion to approve the Resolution amending the Community Plan and Jon Thompson seconded it &#8211; infrastructure problems be damned.</p>
<p>No CAP on density was set. Tom Lamkin said he would be willing to set the CAP at 350 units per acre, but he could go with 50. Mayor Moriarty was not in favor of a CAP on zoning.</p>
<p>Vote these jokes out of office next year if they apply for reelection.</p>
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		By: @Stacked Deck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Stacked Deck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry but if you were so against having some of our postal workers, police officers, food store workers, accountants etc.  living in the city limits why did you not show your face at the meeting and voice your concerns? It was an open meeting what kept you away?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but if you were so against having some of our postal workers, police officers, food store workers, accountants etc.  living in the city limits why did you not show your face at the meeting and voice your concerns? It was an open meeting what kept you away?</p>
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