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		By: JD, West Sedona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JD, West Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2022 03:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you @Marv, Sedona.  Here&#039;s another point to ponder. Why do OUR elected city council members, and that includes the mayor, even listen to outsiders?  NOT THEIR JOB.  And the same goes for city staff!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you @Marv, Sedona.  Here&#8217;s another point to ponder. Why do OUR elected city council members, and that includes the mayor, even listen to outsiders?  NOT THEIR JOB.  And the same goes for city staff!</p>
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		By: Marv, Sedona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marv, Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2022 01:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why do people outside Sedona City Limits contact members of the city council and attempt to interfere with city policies and affairs?  Why don&#039;t they make a move to annex their area into the city and make their input legitimate?

Furthermore, why do members of OUR city council even listen to them?  

In the early days after Sedona incorporated if a person spoke at council meetings and gave their name and address, we had at least one council member showing  the integrity to call them out when their address was outside of city limits.

Want to participate in Sedona City politics but don&#039;t live within city limits?  Then take action and annex your area.  And don&#039;t try to use the excuse of owning property here that you do NOT actually live in. So do the countless other people that invested in short term rentals and reside in California, Colorado, and elsewhere. 

Unless you actually live here and declare your residence is within City Limits and are a registered voter IN THE CITY, then back off with your unwanted input!  

Which reminds me of a meeting years ago in the VOC. Then Mayor Alan Everett set up a meeting in the Village of Oak Creek Clubhouse for the purpose of encouraging the VOC to annex and become a legitimate part of incorporated Sedona.

Well guess what. In a standing-room audience the majority of those attending were shouting at him things like &quot;go home&quot; - &quot;we do not want to be part of your incorporated area.&quot;  

It&#039;s never too late. If the demographics have changed drastically and the current population feels differently, then take action and legitimately and officially become a part of Incorporated Sedona.  Take action to annex!  Otherwise stop dictating to OUR elected officials and butt out.

Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people outside Sedona City Limits contact members of the city council and attempt to interfere with city policies and affairs?  Why don&#8217;t they make a move to annex their area into the city and make their input legitimate?</p>
<p>Furthermore, why do members of OUR city council even listen to them?  </p>
<p>In the early days after Sedona incorporated if a person spoke at council meetings and gave their name and address, we had at least one council member showing  the integrity to call them out when their address was outside of city limits.</p>
<p>Want to participate in Sedona City politics but don&#8217;t live within city limits?  Then take action and annex your area.  And don&#8217;t try to use the excuse of owning property here that you do NOT actually live in. So do the countless other people that invested in short term rentals and reside in California, Colorado, and elsewhere. </p>
<p>Unless you actually live here and declare your residence is within City Limits and are a registered voter IN THE CITY, then back off with your unwanted input!  </p>
<p>Which reminds me of a meeting years ago in the VOC. Then Mayor Alan Everett set up a meeting in the Village of Oak Creek Clubhouse for the purpose of encouraging the VOC to annex and become a legitimate part of incorporated Sedona.</p>
<p>Well guess what. In a standing-room audience the majority of those attending were shouting at him things like &#8220;go home&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;we do not want to be part of your incorporated area.&#8221;  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s never too late. If the demographics have changed drastically and the current population feels differently, then take action and legitimately and officially become a part of Incorporated Sedona.  Take action to annex!  Otherwise stop dictating to OUR elected officials and butt out.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		By: Villagers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Villagers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2021 16:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Before Sedona incorporated all streets and roads with the exception of the two state highways were under the jurisdiction of either Yavapai or Coconino Counties. After Sedona became a &quot;city&quot; all of those roads/streets became &quot;city roads&quot;. 

Therefore if VOC and/or the area of Red Rock Crossing were to annex into city limits Verde Valley School and Upper Red Rock Loop Roads would  belong to the city of Sedona.  And little doubt that would include &quot;the crossing&quot; @I Agree Villager.  
 
Yavapai County would thus be stripped of the controversial issue and how do you know that wouldn&#039;t be a huge relief to them?  In fact, they might jump with joy and even be willing to share in funding the restoration of a crossing considering the dire need for an alternate route in this area.

Ya just never know . . .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before Sedona incorporated all streets and roads with the exception of the two state highways were under the jurisdiction of either Yavapai or Coconino Counties. After Sedona became a &#8220;city&#8221; all of those roads/streets became &#8220;city roads&#8221;. </p>
<p>Therefore if VOC and/or the area of Red Rock Crossing were to annex into city limits Verde Valley School and Upper Red Rock Loop Roads would  belong to the city of Sedona.  And little doubt that would include &#8220;the crossing&#8221; @I Agree Villager.  </p>
<p>Yavapai County would thus be stripped of the controversial issue and how do you know that wouldn&#8217;t be a huge relief to them?  In fact, they might jump with joy and even be willing to share in funding the restoration of a crossing considering the dire need for an alternate route in this area.</p>
<p>Ya just never know . . .</p>
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		By: Kindle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kindle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2021 02:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Red rock crossing doesn’t need to be opened ever cause we don’t need or want to cater to out of Townees that don’t respect us and our environment and our dark sky mandates. We need Sedonans to get out that don’t honor it too. We arent a tourist town we’re a town overrun by tourists. Send them packing! Don’t destroy a rock ever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red rock crossing doesn’t need to be opened ever cause we don’t need or want to cater to out of Townees that don’t respect us and our environment and our dark sky mandates. We need Sedonans to get out that don’t honor it too. We arent a tourist town we’re a town overrun by tourists. Send them packing! Don’t destroy a rock ever.</p>
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		By: Jim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 18:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeeps cross that crossing and nobody needs government interference to make it passable I. Emergencies. This government sucks too. They’re brain dead in Washington and print money like it really exists.  Local council uses same accountants. Local elected offices supporting Washington policies need the boot. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeeps cross that crossing and nobody needs government interference to make it passable I. Emergencies. This government sucks too. They’re brain dead in Washington and print money like it really exists.  Local council uses same accountants. Local elected offices supporting Washington policies need the boot. </p>
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		By: I agree Villager		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I agree Villager]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 17:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What you say is all true, but bottom line the county has far more say about the crossing.....And we all know that eye sore of a hotel would never had looked like the one in VOC had Sedona building rules had been in place!

All the county cares about is tax money,( not looks or zoning) maybe we can turn the bridge into a toll bridge and the county would be all in? lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you say is all true, but bottom line the county has far more say about the crossing&#8230;..And we all know that eye sore of a hotel would never had looked like the one in VOC had Sedona building rules had been in place!</p>
<p>All the county cares about is tax money,( not looks or zoning) maybe we can turn the bridge into a toll bridge and the county would be all in? lol</p>
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		By: Andrew &#38; Sally		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew &#38; Sally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2021 16:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With the increase of &quot;day-trippers&quot; (most likely caused by misappropriation of funding the chamber of commerce received from Sedona city taxes?) it&#039;s highly important and vitally necessary for the RR Crossing to be reopened ASAP.

Number one consideration of all elected representatives should remain health, safety, and welfare of those who voted them in. We deserve better than what has been displayed in the past. NO MORE FAVORED TREATMENT TO SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS! And that includes the Sedona Chamber of Commerce and their Lodging Council!

Stop the nonsense. Restore Red Rock Crossing - whether or not the VOC officially ever becomes part of incorporated Sedona. 

It is a matter of not IF but WHEN a natural disaster will happen!  Floods and forest fires head the list. Those who persist in avoiding the issue should be held personally libel in the event their ill chosen priorities continue to ignore this obvious necessity. Any failure to do so should result in a class action law suit.

Translated:  Sue the socks off them!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the increase of &#8220;day-trippers&#8221; (most likely caused by misappropriation of funding the chamber of commerce received from Sedona city taxes?) it&#8217;s highly important and vitally necessary for the RR Crossing to be reopened ASAP.</p>
<p>Number one consideration of all elected representatives should remain health, safety, and welfare of those who voted them in. We deserve better than what has been displayed in the past. NO MORE FAVORED TREATMENT TO SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS! And that includes the Sedona Chamber of Commerce and their Lodging Council!</p>
<p>Stop the nonsense. Restore Red Rock Crossing &#8211; whether or not the VOC officially ever becomes part of incorporated Sedona. </p>
<p>It is a matter of not IF but WHEN a natural disaster will happen!  Floods and forest fires head the list. Those who persist in avoiding the issue should be held personally libel in the event their ill chosen priorities continue to ignore this obvious necessity. Any failure to do so should result in a class action law suit.</p>
<p>Translated:  Sue the socks off them!</p>
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		By: Villagers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Villagers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2021 22:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We are in total agreement with the person suggesting to annex VOC if for no other reason than to reopen Red Rock Crossing. That should have been done when it washed out in the late 70&#039;s. It&#039;s been a selfish few that&#039;s delayed the project. They pulled the strings of former Yavapai  County Supervisor Chip Davis.  

Face facts. Where did the term Red Rock Crossing come from if it didn&#039;t identify a means to cross Oak Creek?  One leader of that group so against reopening it also has made himself, although publicly in silence at most, in fact if not all, things in Sedona. Not unlike another local yokel who&#039;s much more vocal and prefers to not maintain a low profile.  Guess who that might be and the initials SS could  be a clue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are in total agreement with the person suggesting to annex VOC if for no other reason than to reopen Red Rock Crossing. That should have been done when it washed out in the late 70&#8217;s. It&#8217;s been a selfish few that&#8217;s delayed the project. They pulled the strings of former Yavapai  County Supervisor Chip Davis.  </p>
<p>Face facts. Where did the term Red Rock Crossing come from if it didn&#8217;t identify a means to cross Oak Creek?  One leader of that group so against reopening it also has made himself, although publicly in silence at most, in fact if not all, things in Sedona. Not unlike another local yokel who&#8217;s much more vocal and prefers to not maintain a low profile.  Guess who that might be and the initials SS could  be a clue.</p>
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		By: @Eddie Maddock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Eddie Maddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2021 02:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That is an amazing idea, thank you for suggesting it. Once the VOC is part of the city then we will have an easier way to work with them on that VVSRoad connector to the LRRL Road. Our neighbors to the south are the only stronghold keeping that crossing from ever happening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is an amazing idea, thank you for suggesting it. Once the VOC is part of the city then we will have an easier way to work with them on that VVSRoad connector to the LRRL Road. Our neighbors to the south are the only stronghold keeping that crossing from ever happening.</p>
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		By: Business in VOC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Business in VOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2021 19:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking only for ourselves as business owners in the VOC, why would we want to be included in incorporated Sedona when we already benefit from the name Sedona and frequently receive referrals from the Sedona Chamber of Commerce?!?!?!

Why would we give up our independence when your own mayor Sandy has gone on record as not recognizing boundaries and openly attends our events out here?!?!?!

WE have the advantage of NOT collecting your Sedona city sales tax - which really adds up with inflated prices of merchandise etc like  gassing up and eating at our restaurants.

Nope WE don’t like, need or want 2 monster highway structures and that decision was made by Yavapai County. WE would be equally disgruntled with your approval of increasingly view blocking structures and having to deal with your ridiculous parking situation, intended paved hot parking lots and even worse traffic congestion in West Sedona.

Become part of City of Sedona!?!?!?  NOT FOR US!  WE stand by that saying before that if it ain&#039;t broke don&#039;t fix it. 

Incorporation did NOT fix Sedona.  It made it worse in our opinions. Stay away from us. WE don’t need you.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking only for ourselves as business owners in the VOC, why would we want to be included in incorporated Sedona when we already benefit from the name Sedona and frequently receive referrals from the Sedona Chamber of Commerce?!?!?!</p>
<p>Why would we give up our independence when your own mayor Sandy has gone on record as not recognizing boundaries and openly attends our events out here?!?!?!</p>
<p>WE have the advantage of NOT collecting your Sedona city sales tax &#8211; which really adds up with inflated prices of merchandise etc like  gassing up and eating at our restaurants.</p>
<p>Nope WE don’t like, need or want 2 monster highway structures and that decision was made by Yavapai County. WE would be equally disgruntled with your approval of increasingly view blocking structures and having to deal with your ridiculous parking situation, intended paved hot parking lots and even worse traffic congestion in West Sedona.</p>
<p>Become part of City of Sedona!?!?!?  NOT FOR US!  WE stand by that saying before that if it ain&#8217;t broke don&#8217;t fix it. </p>
<p>Incorporation did NOT fix Sedona.  It made it worse in our opinions. Stay away from us. WE don’t need you.  </p>
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