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		By: City Council Listening Session		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[City Council Listening Session]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 04:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[City Council Listening Session is scheduled for 6/8/2011 6:30 PM - 8:00 PM at Jordan Hall, 401 N State Route 89A, Sedona, Arizona 86336 
As part of the Sedona City Council&#039;s ongoing communications efforts and community outreach, the third of the quarterly Neighborhood Listening sessions will take place on Wednesday, June 8, 2011 from 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. at the Wayside Chapel, Jordan Hall, 401 North State Route 89A. This meeting will cover the Uptown area; however, all members of the public are welcome. The next Neighborhood meeting, date and location to be determined, will cover the geographical area of Rodeo Road to Bristlecone Pines. 

Come share your thoughts on issues related to the City of Sedona. 

For more information, contact the City Manager&#039;s office at 204-7127.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>City Council Listening Session is scheduled for 6/8/2011 6:30 PM &#8211; 8:00 PM at Jordan Hall, 401 N State Route 89A, Sedona, Arizona 86336<br />
As part of the Sedona City Council&#8217;s ongoing communications efforts and community outreach, the third of the quarterly Neighborhood Listening sessions will take place on Wednesday, June 8, 2011 from 6:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. at the Wayside Chapel, Jordan Hall, 401 North State Route 89A. This meeting will cover the Uptown area; however, all members of the public are welcome. The next Neighborhood meeting, date and location to be determined, will cover the geographical area of Rodeo Road to Bristlecone Pines. </p>
<p>Come share your thoughts on issues related to the City of Sedona. </p>
<p>For more information, contact the City Manager&#8217;s office at 204-7127.</p>
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		By: New Kid on the Block		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-city-council-addresses-adot-board/comment-page-1/#comment-7411</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Kid on the Block]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 15:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Moving to Sedona is what I thought would be my dream come true. It now appears to be the worst nightmare of my life. If City Council is planning on alternate direct routes thru our neighborhoods, what other tricks do you suppose they have up their sleeves? The fact that even one member of a city council would take sides and openly attack others who simply disagree with a major decision made by only FOUR citizens of this community is beyond comprehension. Also, I would like to know how many signatures on that on-line petition are qualified registered voters and not just people living in outlying areas who want for only Sedona residents to pay for improvements and maintenance to a State Highway? Not fair Ms. Litrell and cohorts!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moving to Sedona is what I thought would be my dream come true. It now appears to be the worst nightmare of my life. If City Council is planning on alternate direct routes thru our neighborhoods, what other tricks do you suppose they have up their sleeves? The fact that even one member of a city council would take sides and openly attack others who simply disagree with a major decision made by only FOUR citizens of this community is beyond comprehension. Also, I would like to know how many signatures on that on-line petition are qualified registered voters and not just people living in outlying areas who want for only Sedona residents to pay for improvements and maintenance to a State Highway? Not fair Ms. Litrell and cohorts!</p>
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		By: JP		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-city-council-addresses-adot-board/comment-page-1/#comment-7404</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 18:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is getting good now. Once the City of Sedona actually owns the State Route 89A and the redesign process begins, is that the point at which they&#039;ll drop the bomb about their plans for &quot;alternate routes&quot; on the south side of the highway? The extension of Mormon Hill Rd. through Rolling Hills and on down plus some convoluted scheme to create a thoroughfare via Panorama were already addressed on a low key basis at recent budget meetings.

How much support will those of you living on the south side of the highway get from your neighbors to the north when the sanctity of your neighborhoods is disturbed by more traffic? By virtue of the plans for alternate parallel routes this city council has already admitted to more traffic on 89A than the city can handle. Ya ain&#039;t seen nothing yet, folks! It will just get better and better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is getting good now. Once the City of Sedona actually owns the State Route 89A and the redesign process begins, is that the point at which they&#8217;ll drop the bomb about their plans for &#8220;alternate routes&#8221; on the south side of the highway? The extension of Mormon Hill Rd. through Rolling Hills and on down plus some convoluted scheme to create a thoroughfare via Panorama were already addressed on a low key basis at recent budget meetings.</p>
<p>How much support will those of you living on the south side of the highway get from your neighbors to the north when the sanctity of your neighborhoods is disturbed by more traffic? By virtue of the plans for alternate parallel routes this city council has already admitted to more traffic on 89A than the city can handle. Ya ain&#8217;t seen nothing yet, folks! It will just get better and better.</p>
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		By: liz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 13:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boy O&#039; Boy the more things change the more they stay the same! Litrell and LeFevre will continue to demonize anyone that has a differing view then their own. Hopefully a new President of DORR will be able to rescue the organization much like Tom O’Halleran has done for KSB, a much beloved Sedona institution.

Someone just reminded me what Litrell did to the last council that disagreed with her. I looked up the reports and they were right. Litrell stated in the press for six months that four council members had broke the laws of Arizona, sent multiple complaints to the Attorney General, after much tax payer dollars were spent the Attorney General declared no credible evidence, in fact no evidence at all! No witnesses, no paper trail, nothing! When pressed by the AG Litrell admitted she had filed report based on a third party rumor. Wow, talk about willing to do whatever it takes to take down your opposition!

They (city council) set in motion through their campaign pledge to listen and follow the will of the people. In office they choose to believe the DORR and Sedona Biz Survey over the city paid professional Survey.

Residents of Sedona - Your Voice and Will cannot be ignored forever! We must continue to demand an ethical city council, no more misinformation and lies, we are done! We have little power to deal with the unethical behavior of our national and state politicians but we sure have the power to demand ethical behavior from our local elected officials.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy O&#8217; Boy the more things change the more they stay the same! Litrell and LeFevre will continue to demonize anyone that has a differing view then their own. Hopefully a new President of DORR will be able to rescue the organization much like Tom O’Halleran has done for KSB, a much beloved Sedona institution.</p>
<p>Someone just reminded me what Litrell did to the last council that disagreed with her. I looked up the reports and they were right. Litrell stated in the press for six months that four council members had broke the laws of Arizona, sent multiple complaints to the Attorney General, after much tax payer dollars were spent the Attorney General declared no credible evidence, in fact no evidence at all! No witnesses, no paper trail, nothing! When pressed by the AG Litrell admitted she had filed report based on a third party rumor. Wow, talk about willing to do whatever it takes to take down your opposition!</p>
<p>They (city council) set in motion through their campaign pledge to listen and follow the will of the people. In office they choose to believe the DORR and Sedona Biz Survey over the city paid professional Survey.</p>
<p>Residents of Sedona &#8211; Your Voice and Will cannot be ignored forever! We must continue to demand an ethical city council, no more misinformation and lies, we are done! We have little power to deal with the unethical behavior of our national and state politicians but we sure have the power to demand ethical behavior from our local elected officials.</p>
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		By: Angela LeFevre		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-city-council-addresses-adot-board/comment-page-1/#comment-7396</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela LeFevre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 20:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been following this debate with utter bewilderment and amazement.  I cannot believe that those who call themselves &quot;LTPV&quot; - Let the People Vote&quot; - blatantly admit that they really could not care less whether the people vote or not!  They assume, somewhat arrogantly, that they represent the majority of the registered voters in Sedona.  How come these folks got voted out of office last year?  They were able to get some 900 votes to &quot;support&quot; their petition.  Let&#039;s face it.  Quite a few of those who signed the petition were doing it in support of a referendum on what is a very important issue here in Sedona.  Some are in fact supportive of a route transfer, but signed because they agreed on the overall issue of democracy and the right to voice their opinion.  

These people have acted unethically, have purposely misled many of the people in Sedona, and, under the guise of &quot;democracy&quot; are actually subverting the democratic process.

Yes, Let the People Vote in November and let&#039;s see what kind of support these folks have!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following this debate with utter bewilderment and amazement.  I cannot believe that those who call themselves &#8220;LTPV&#8221; &#8211; Let the People Vote&#8221; &#8211; blatantly admit that they really could not care less whether the people vote or not!  They assume, somewhat arrogantly, that they represent the majority of the registered voters in Sedona.  How come these folks got voted out of office last year?  They were able to get some 900 votes to &#8220;support&#8221; their petition.  Let&#8217;s face it.  Quite a few of those who signed the petition were doing it in support of a referendum on what is a very important issue here in Sedona.  Some are in fact supportive of a route transfer, but signed because they agreed on the overall issue of democracy and the right to voice their opinion.  </p>
<p>These people have acted unethically, have purposely misled many of the people in Sedona, and, under the guise of &#8220;democracy&#8221; are actually subverting the democratic process.</p>
<p>Yes, Let the People Vote in November and let&#8217;s see what kind of support these folks have!</p>
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		By: Eddie Maddock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie Maddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 18:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reponse to Peggy Chaikin:

As an avid supporter of the position the newly elected took relating to excessive lighting along the west corridor of SR89A, it had nothing to do with a proposal of either lights OR Sedona taking ownership of the State Route. Had that been the case, my support for the newly elected council members would have been diverted elsewhere. And that&#039;s a fact. Therein lies my appreciation for the efforts of LTPV which has afforded this legitimate opportunity for a viable method of voting since the City Council opted to dismiss the results of their professional poll.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reponse to Peggy Chaikin:</p>
<p>As an avid supporter of the position the newly elected took relating to excessive lighting along the west corridor of SR89A, it had nothing to do with a proposal of either lights OR Sedona taking ownership of the State Route. Had that been the case, my support for the newly elected council members would have been diverted elsewhere. And that&#8217;s a fact. Therein lies my appreciation for the efforts of LTPV which has afforded this legitimate opportunity for a viable method of voting since the City Council opted to dismiss the results of their professional poll.</p>
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		By: Juliette Colangelo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juliette Colangelo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 05:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those who believe that voting in this upcoming referendum is meaningful because it expresses their opinions, might want to consider moving to Iran or a similarly governed country, where citizens vote, thereby expressing opinions, and, at the same time, have absolutely no say in the actuality of their government&#039;s actions.  Voting on the route transfer in Sedona, while the trenching machines are digging up 89A, would be as meaningful as voting in Iran.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who believe that voting in this upcoming referendum is meaningful because it expresses their opinions, might want to consider moving to Iran or a similarly governed country, where citizens vote, thereby expressing opinions, and, at the same time, have absolutely no say in the actuality of their government&#8217;s actions.  Voting on the route transfer in Sedona, while the trenching machines are digging up 89A, would be as meaningful as voting in Iran.</p>
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		By: Peggy Chaikin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peggy Chaikin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 01:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I say the &quot;Let the People Vote&quot; faction should respect the vote that turned those who advocated for continuous lighting out of office.
 That vote was the REAL THING.  Live with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say the &#8220;Let the People Vote&#8221; faction should respect the vote that turned those who advocated for continuous lighting out of office.<br />
 That vote was the REAL THING.  Live with it.</p>
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		By: Mike Schroeder		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/sedona-city-council-addresses-adot-board/comment-page-1/#comment-7391</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Schroeder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 21:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A response to Ms. Graham:

In all due respect, a vote by the public where the outcome is predetermined has no meaning, and is not symbolic. The number of people who will not waste their time on voting for a meaningless result is undeterminable making any referendum a joke.  And to think anything different is to insult the intelligence of every registered voter in Sedona or any other community where such a sham is portrayed.  Votes either count for something or they do not.  That’s the way it has always worked in this country.  Elections have consequences – and when there are no consequences there are no elections.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A response to Ms. Graham:</p>
<p>In all due respect, a vote by the public where the outcome is predetermined has no meaning, and is not symbolic. The number of people who will not waste their time on voting for a meaningless result is undeterminable making any referendum a joke.  And to think anything different is to insult the intelligence of every registered voter in Sedona or any other community where such a sham is portrayed.  Votes either count for something or they do not.  That’s the way it has always worked in this country.  Elections have consequences – and when there are no consequences there are no elections.</p>
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		By: Samantha Ruckman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Ruckman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 21:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;it might look like the citizen’s votes would seem to be symbolic. Arizona Revised Statutes declares the opposite – citizens have the Constitutional right of voicing their opinions through their vote. No vote is symbolic…our votes have meaning. And, that is what the citizens of Sedona want.&quot;

Methinks you protest too much.  If ADOT proceeds with their own plan, the referendum votes WILL have zero meaning.  If the meaning of a vote is simply to express an opinion, as you say, maybe your group could have found a way to allow people to do that without costing the city 25K for a referendum vote where the votes will merely be opinions after the fact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it might look like the citizen’s votes would seem to be symbolic. Arizona Revised Statutes declares the opposite – citizens have the Constitutional right of voicing their opinions through their vote. No vote is symbolic…our votes have meaning. And, that is what the citizens of Sedona want.&#8221;</p>
<p>Methinks you protest too much.  If ADOT proceeds with their own plan, the referendum votes WILL have zero meaning.  If the meaning of a vote is simply to express an opinion, as you say, maybe your group could have found a way to allow people to do that without costing the city 25K for a referendum vote where the votes will merely be opinions after the fact.</p>
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