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		By: Real Sedona Business		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/please-stop-the-madness-asks-sedona-city-voter/comment-page-1/#comment-124412</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real Sedona Business]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 20:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Jerry &#038; Eddie Maddock for bring up these issues. I am appalled that the City continues to hurt it&#039;s own businesses. They didn&#039;t ask whether the taxes we collect and pay  that they are using hurts our businesses. They do. You all been here long enough to see the businesses come and go. For the city to pay for a venue that directly hurts my business is horrible. Why doesn&#039;t the city pay to develop my business? The city should not be in the business of completing nor should they be paying for anyone&#039;s business.  

Those that love this idea should donate money to the group. The building should be rented out at a great rate to anyone willing to pay rent.  The food bank wanted to rent it along with a few others. It not fair to pay a special group with taxes we collect.  They are playing with our money.

I won&#039;t dare say anything as that would hurt my business even more. 
Sadly Sedona is not business friendly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Jerry &amp; Eddie Maddock for bring up these issues. I am appalled that the City continues to hurt it&#8217;s own businesses. They didn&#8217;t ask whether the taxes we collect and pay  that they are using hurts our businesses. They do. You all been here long enough to see the businesses come and go. For the city to pay for a venue that directly hurts my business is horrible. Why doesn&#8217;t the city pay to develop my business? The city should not be in the business of completing nor should they be paying for anyone&#8217;s business.  </p>
<p>Those that love this idea should donate money to the group. The building should be rented out at a great rate to anyone willing to pay rent.  The food bank wanted to rent it along with a few others. It not fair to pay a special group with taxes we collect.  They are playing with our money.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t dare say anything as that would hurt my business even more.<br />
Sadly Sedona is not business friendly.</p>
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		By: West Sedona Resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[West Sedona Resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 19:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some Nimrod above hacked my account...oh well

But your right Gloria

These nimrods complainers here don&#039;t use the pool parks library or whatever...They can&#039;t get off their computor writing hate  letters or stop watching Fox News..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Nimrod above hacked my account&#8230;oh well</p>
<p>But your right Gloria</p>
<p>These nimrods complainers here don&#8217;t use the pool parks library or whatever&#8230;They can&#8217;t get off their computor writing hate  letters or stop watching Fox News..</p>
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		By: Eddie Maddock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie Maddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 19:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Jerry, Sedona, for bringing up the failed Studio Live. Having had the pleasure of attending the organizational meeting of that endeavor and subsequently several performances, including Sedona&#039;s own Chris Spheeris, the news of their forced closing due to monthly sewer rates they could not afford remains disturbing. As it turns out wasn&#039;t their big mistake not going to the city in the first place instead of pursuing the honorable route by attempting to succeed by competing with the city council&#039;s chosen few? 

The same as Bodacious Burger and the original Hideaway Restaurant and possibly other legitimate Sedona businesses, forced to lock their doors in deference to City of Sedona funding competitive non-profits, seems to have become the current trend. And on the other hand isn&#039;t spending thousands of dollars and even advertising for a professional to guide this city on the principals of &quot;economic development&quot; counter productive to financially supporting non-profits?  Go figure.

It became blurry during the council meeting whether the deal for the new contract will be for two or three years. Is it possible the &quot;three years&quot; mentioned was inclusive of the first year of the contract? At any rate, $38,000 plus another $14,000 or so brings the city to forking out a tidy sum of around $50,000 - exceeding the annual income of at least some Sedona residents struggling to live within their own budgets as they see precious public revenue continued to be frittered away on non-essentials. Wouldn&#039;t it be lovely if we could all manage our budgets that way? Avoid trivialities like house payments, insurance, taxes, utility bills, etc. and pack it up, take a cruise, or luxuriate in other pipe dreams that will never become reality? 

That&#039;s the operative word here: REALITY.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jerry, Sedona, for bringing up the failed Studio Live. Having had the pleasure of attending the organizational meeting of that endeavor and subsequently several performances, including Sedona&#8217;s own Chris Spheeris, the news of their forced closing due to monthly sewer rates they could not afford remains disturbing. As it turns out wasn&#8217;t their big mistake not going to the city in the first place instead of pursuing the honorable route by attempting to succeed by competing with the city council&#8217;s chosen few? </p>
<p>The same as Bodacious Burger and the original Hideaway Restaurant and possibly other legitimate Sedona businesses, forced to lock their doors in deference to City of Sedona funding competitive non-profits, seems to have become the current trend. And on the other hand isn&#8217;t spending thousands of dollars and even advertising for a professional to guide this city on the principals of &#8220;economic development&#8221; counter productive to financially supporting non-profits?  Go figure.</p>
<p>It became blurry during the council meeting whether the deal for the new contract will be for two or three years. Is it possible the &#8220;three years&#8221; mentioned was inclusive of the first year of the contract? At any rate, $38,000 plus another $14,000 or so brings the city to forking out a tidy sum of around $50,000 &#8211; exceeding the annual income of at least some Sedona residents struggling to live within their own budgets as they see precious public revenue continued to be frittered away on non-essentials. Wouldn&#8217;t it be lovely if we could all manage our budgets that way? Avoid trivialities like house payments, insurance, taxes, utility bills, etc. and pack it up, take a cruise, or luxuriate in other pipe dreams that will never become reality? </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the operative word here: REALITY.</p>
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		By: West Sedona resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[West Sedona resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 02:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Gloria Richards

I agree Gloria, just wait until you see the city of Sedona Football Stadium, Baseball Stadium and NASCAR track. After all &quot;We are a community of many different types of people shouldn’t the city provide a bit of enjoyment for all of them?&quot;  

I bet Gloria, like me you do not pay any Sedona City taxes. 

Don&#039;t you just love how Sedona Recycles places recycling bins all over the Verde Valley?

I love those Sedona taxpayers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gloria Richards</p>
<p>I agree Gloria, just wait until you see the city of Sedona Football Stadium, Baseball Stadium and NASCAR track. After all &#8220;We are a community of many different types of people shouldn’t the city provide a bit of enjoyment for all of them?&#8221;  </p>
<p>I bet Gloria, like me you do not pay any Sedona City taxes. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you just love how Sedona Recycles places recycling bins all over the Verde Valley?</p>
<p>I love those Sedona taxpayers.</p>
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		By: @Gloria Richards		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Gloria Richards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ya right, u never knew about the site........ blah blah. You are one of the takers. Stealing and using taxes for personal gain.

When did it become a city job to pay for every Tom, Dick and Harry artistic venues?

The city it hurting places like sound bites, relics &#038; the wine place. The restaurants &#038; hotels have entertainment. Da da da......You are padding your pockets. Dumbest council ever. Taking business from those that PAY.  Retarded.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya right, u never knew about the site&#8230;&#8230;.. blah blah. You are one of the takers. Stealing and using taxes for personal gain.</p>
<p>When did it become a city job to pay for every Tom, Dick and Harry artistic venues?</p>
<p>The city it hurting places like sound bites, relics &amp; the wine place. The restaurants &amp; hotels have entertainment. Da da da&#8230;&#8230;You are padding your pockets. Dumbest council ever. Taking business from those that PAY.  Retarded.</p>
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		By: Jerry, Sedona City Limits		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry, Sedona City Limits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2016 15:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Gloria Richards. With all due respect to you, artists, and Joan Shannon, how fair is it that this city council is set to approved $38,000 for the next THREE years (upgraded from two) for another special interest group while Sedona city based businesses continue to struggle, some even forced to close doors because they cannot afford the exorbitant monthly sewer fees? Even residential sewer fees have become a financial burden for many retirees who moved here in good faith hoping for a decent quality of life although under financial constraints due to fixed incomes. But of course this city council looks upon retirees as nothing more than burrs in their behinds. Isn&#039;t that peculiar because aren&#039;t most of them if not all also retired? (or they should be - especially from city council)

Conveniently this council sees fit to do the same as the last - tie up &quot;service&quot; contracts for future years so that newly elected members are inhibited from making important decisions once they take office. 

Struggling businesses offering nightlife experiences such as their own form of performing arts are now faced with competition from a city financed venue? How fair is that? Sure, the speakers at the meeting were passionate with good intentions and deserving of recognition, but at the expense of public funding it becomes questionable when it flies in the face of the tax base itself - Relics, Soundbites, Vino DiSedona, and others. There was another venue on Coffee Pot Rd, Studio Live I believe it was called, a musician&#039;s collaboration of a sort that was also forced out of business because of high sewer rates. How must those good people now feel when this city so blatantly and once again shows favoritism by selective funding for their own pet projects?

To attack others, Ms. Richards, for expressing frustration and even fear of being priced out of Sedona is unfortunate. As an artist your lack of compassion for those who are being financially abused does not portray a very pretty picture.

Lust for greed and power continues to consume the alleged economic engine driving Sedona which makes the current  pursuit for &quot;economic development&quot; amount to nothing more than a slap in the face to existing struggling businesses that remain abused by this uncaring system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gloria Richards. With all due respect to you, artists, and Joan Shannon, how fair is it that this city council is set to approved $38,000 for the next THREE years (upgraded from two) for another special interest group while Sedona city based businesses continue to struggle, some even forced to close doors because they cannot afford the exorbitant monthly sewer fees? Even residential sewer fees have become a financial burden for many retirees who moved here in good faith hoping for a decent quality of life although under financial constraints due to fixed incomes. But of course this city council looks upon retirees as nothing more than burrs in their behinds. Isn&#8217;t that peculiar because aren&#8217;t most of them if not all also retired? (or they should be &#8211; especially from city council)</p>
<p>Conveniently this council sees fit to do the same as the last &#8211; tie up &#8220;service&#8221; contracts for future years so that newly elected members are inhibited from making important decisions once they take office. </p>
<p>Struggling businesses offering nightlife experiences such as their own form of performing arts are now faced with competition from a city financed venue? How fair is that? Sure, the speakers at the meeting were passionate with good intentions and deserving of recognition, but at the expense of public funding it becomes questionable when it flies in the face of the tax base itself &#8211; Relics, Soundbites, Vino DiSedona, and others. There was another venue on Coffee Pot Rd, Studio Live I believe it was called, a musician&#8217;s collaboration of a sort that was also forced out of business because of high sewer rates. How must those good people now feel when this city so blatantly and once again shows favoritism by selective funding for their own pet projects?</p>
<p>To attack others, Ms. Richards, for expressing frustration and even fear of being priced out of Sedona is unfortunate. As an artist your lack of compassion for those who are being financially abused does not portray a very pretty picture.</p>
<p>Lust for greed and power continues to consume the alleged economic engine driving Sedona which makes the current  pursuit for &#8220;economic development&#8221; amount to nothing more than a slap in the face to existing struggling businesses that remain abused by this uncaring system.</p>
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		By: @Gloria Richards		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/please-stop-the-madness-asks-sedona-city-voter/comment-page-1/#comment-124383</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Gloria Richards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It not their money.

The cIty of Sedona should focus on the job of infrastructure. It NOT about friends &#038; specials interests. 

We ALL love the arts. Just sayin what the fu-- does a city have to do with PAYING ARTISTS? Those that SUPPORT it can contribute.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It not their money.</p>
<p>The cIty of Sedona should focus on the job of infrastructure. It NOT about friends &amp; specials interests. </p>
<p>We ALL love the arts. Just sayin what the fu&#8211; does a city have to do with PAYING ARTISTS? Those that SUPPORT it can contribute.</p>
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		By: Gloria Richards		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gloria Richards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2016 16:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I never knew this web page existed until an artist friend told me about Ms Shannons negative writings. 

How sad for you Joan if you think that only a small few in the town are artists. In fact there are thousands of us who range from young to old. It was said last night at the council meeting that this city is animated by the arts and by providing us this little venue, they are putting their money where their mouths are. 

Joan, do you go to the library to read books??? If you do then you should know that the city pays money to fund the library. Are you against that? I don&#039;t know if you have children and if you do, do they use the community pool? Who do you think pays for that pool? We are a community of many different types of people shouldn&#039;t the city provide a bit of enjoyment for all of them?

After reading your posting above it seems that you have so much negative energy against everything except what you like or want, that can&#039;t be a very good feeling in a town as giving as Sedona. Sad just very sad.

Namaste]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never knew this web page existed until an artist friend told me about Ms Shannons negative writings. </p>
<p>How sad for you Joan if you think that only a small few in the town are artists. In fact there are thousands of us who range from young to old. It was said last night at the council meeting that this city is animated by the arts and by providing us this little venue, they are putting their money where their mouths are. </p>
<p>Joan, do you go to the library to read books??? If you do then you should know that the city pays money to fund the library. Are you against that? I don&#8217;t know if you have children and if you do, do they use the community pool? Who do you think pays for that pool? We are a community of many different types of people shouldn&#8217;t the city provide a bit of enjoyment for all of them?</p>
<p>After reading your posting above it seems that you have so much negative energy against everything except what you like or want, that can&#8217;t be a very good feeling in a town as giving as Sedona. Sad just very sad.</p>
<p>Namaste</p>
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		By: @Alarmed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Alarmed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2016 15:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Alarmed, what? The city manager &quot;delivered a comprehensive explanation of the need to incorporate true costs into the budget for infrastructure (such as roads) during the council meeting on January 7th&quot; and now  &quot;Expenditures approved by the new City Finance Director: $39,200 for next fiscal year and $38,000 for the year after?&quot; Does the left hand even know what the right hand is doing?

Silly question. Of course. Those dealing the cards are the magnificent six - who obviously go to whichever staff member(s) necessary and tell them something like: &quot;OK, here&#039;s the deal. This is what we want - increase funds here, there, everywhere (such as for Red Earth Theatre, Chamber of Commerce, Main Street, Marathon, Film Festival, blah, blah blah - everything but &quot;infrastructure&quot;) with the caveat &quot;Make it happened!&quot; 

What other explanation could there be?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alarmed, what? The city manager &#8220;delivered a comprehensive explanation of the need to incorporate true costs into the budget for infrastructure (such as roads) during the council meeting on January 7th&#8221; and now  &#8220;Expenditures approved by the new City Finance Director: $39,200 for next fiscal year and $38,000 for the year after?&#8221; Does the left hand even know what the right hand is doing?</p>
<p>Silly question. Of course. Those dealing the cards are the magnificent six &#8211; who obviously go to whichever staff member(s) necessary and tell them something like: &#8220;OK, here&#8217;s the deal. This is what we want &#8211; increase funds here, there, everywhere (such as for Red Earth Theatre, Chamber of Commerce, Main Street, Marathon, Film Festival, blah, blah blah &#8211; everything but &#8220;infrastructure&#8221;) with the caveat &#8220;Make it happened!&#8221; </p>
<p>What other explanation could there be?</p>
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		By: @Joan Shannon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Joan Shannon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Joan Shannon (whomever you are) for having the courage to so boldly express how many of us feel (with the except, of course, of the alleged 90% reaping benefits to which West Sedona resident made reference). Any bets that they do NOT represent the majority of legitimate Sedona registered voters?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Joan Shannon (whomever you are) for having the courage to so boldly express how many of us feel (with the except, of course, of the alleged 90% reaping benefits to which West Sedona resident made reference). Any bets that they do NOT represent the majority of legitimate Sedona registered voters?</p>
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