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		By: Tim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That’s why we get the Clinton dynasty wannabes. Thank God for the electoral college that saved us from them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s why we get the Clinton dynasty wannabes. Thank God for the electoral college that saved us from them.</p>
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		By: Eite Dion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eite Dion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2019 01:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting ]]></description>
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		By: N O'Neal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2019 19:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[New York Times Fact Check on Debate - Google it

Democrats Warren

Warren says her tax on wealthy would pay for her programs BUT ...economists disagree, arguing that a wealth tax would spur waves of new loopholes and tax evasion efforts. Lawrence H. Summers, a Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton, and Natasha Sarin, a law and finance professor at the University of Pennsylvania, estimated that Ms. Warren’s wealth tax would raise just 40 percent of what her campaign claims.

If Ms. Warren’s tax proposals raise less revenue than she projects, it will be difficult to pay for her grand plans without adding to the deficit. Her grand plans will cost trillions.

Wait til you read what the progressive liberal media is saying about Joe and Warren too. Imagine what the reality is if they can&#039;t spin it in favor of their Democrats?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York Times Fact Check on Debate &#8211; Google it</p>
<p>Democrats Warren</p>
<p>Warren says her tax on wealthy would pay for her programs BUT &#8230;economists disagree, arguing that a wealth tax would spur waves of new loopholes and tax evasion efforts. Lawrence H. Summers, a Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton, and Natasha Sarin, a law and finance professor at the University of Pennsylvania, estimated that Ms. Warren’s wealth tax would raise just 40 percent of what her campaign claims.</p>
<p>If Ms. Warren’s tax proposals raise less revenue than she projects, it will be difficult to pay for her grand plans without adding to the deficit. Her grand plans will cost trillions.</p>
<p>Wait til you read what the progressive liberal media is saying about Joe and Warren too. Imagine what the reality is if they can&#8217;t spin it in favor of their Democrats?</p>
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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Rick Normand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@All Readers at The Eye,

This post is an adjunct to my post above of Nov 27:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

 ***U.S. Supreme Court[edit]***

The constitutionality of state Electoral College pledge laws was confirmed by the Supreme Court in 1952 in Ray v. Blair[7] in a 5–2 vote. The court ruled states have the right to require electors to pledge to vote for the candidate whom their party supports, and the right to remove potential electors who refuse to pledge prior to the election. The court also wrote:

&quot;However, even if such promises of candidates for the electoral college are legally unenforceable because violative of an assumed constitutional freedom of the elector under the Constitution, Art. II, § 1, to vote as he may choose in the electoral college, it would NOT[edit] follow that the requirement of a pledge in the primary is unconstitutional).&quot;

So, what will follow on Monday, December 19, 2016, should enough pledged Electors violate their pledge to their respective state&#039;s majority is an arduous lawsuit that will probably throw our country into a Constitutional crisis which will be resolved by the Republican controlled U.S. Senate.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@All Readers at The Eye,</p>
<p>This post is an adjunct to my post above of Nov 27:</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector</a></p>
<p> ***U.S. Supreme Court[edit]***</p>
<p>The constitutionality of state Electoral College pledge laws was confirmed by the Supreme Court in 1952 in Ray v. Blair[7] in a 5–2 vote. The court ruled states have the right to require electors to pledge to vote for the candidate whom their party supports, and the right to remove potential electors who refuse to pledge prior to the election. The court also wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;However, even if such promises of candidates for the electoral college are legally unenforceable because violative of an assumed constitutional freedom of the elector under the Constitution, Art. II, § 1, to vote as he may choose in the electoral college, it would NOT[edit] follow that the requirement of a pledge in the primary is unconstitutional).&#8221;</p>
<p>So, what will follow on Monday, December 19, 2016, should enough pledged Electors violate their pledge to their respective state&#8217;s majority is an arduous lawsuit that will probably throw our country into a Constitutional crisis which will be resolved by the Republican controlled U.S. Senate.</p>
<p>JRN</p>
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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Rick Normand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2016 16:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@All Readers at The Eye,

Re: Green Party candidate Jill Stein’s Michigan recount UNINTENTIONALLY exposed a major voting fraud scandal.

One-in-three precincts in heavily Democratic Detroit weren’t eligible for recounts due to large discrepancies, which included at least one election observer in Precinct 152 uncovering that votes there may have been counted six times in favor of Hillary Clinton.

The Detroit News reported:

    One-third of precincts in Wayne County could be disqualified from an unprecedented statewide recount of presidential election results because of problems with ballots.

    Michigan’s largest county voted overwhelmingly for Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, but officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 610 of 1,680 precincts during a countywide canvass of vote results late last month.

    Most of those are in heavily Democratic Detroit, where the number of ballots in precinct poll books did not match those of voting machine printout reports in 59 percent of precincts, 392 of 662.

    According to Michigan state law, precincts whose poll books don’t match with ballots can’t be recounted. If that happens, original election results stand.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@All Readers at The Eye,</p>
<p>Re: Green Party candidate Jill Stein’s Michigan recount UNINTENTIONALLY exposed a major voting fraud scandal.</p>
<p>One-in-three precincts in heavily Democratic Detroit weren’t eligible for recounts due to large discrepancies, which included at least one election observer in Precinct 152 uncovering that votes there may have been counted six times in favor of Hillary Clinton.</p>
<p>The Detroit News reported:</p>
<p>    One-third of precincts in Wayne County could be disqualified from an unprecedented statewide recount of presidential election results because of problems with ballots.</p>
<p>    Michigan’s largest county voted overwhelmingly for Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, but officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 610 of 1,680 precincts during a countywide canvass of vote results late last month.</p>
<p>    Most of those are in heavily Democratic Detroit, where the number of ballots in precinct poll books did not match those of voting machine printout reports in 59 percent of precincts, 392 of 662.</p>
<p>    According to Michigan state law, precincts whose poll books don’t match with ballots can’t be recounted. If that happens, original election results stand.</p>
<p>JRN</p>
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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Rick Normand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2016 23:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ All Readers at The Eye,

Re: Current presidential election statistics that underscore why our Founding Fathers devised the Electoral College

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

    Trump won 3,084 of them.
    Clinton won 57.

    There are 62 counties in New York State.

    Trump won 46 of them.
    Clinton won 16.

Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes, not counting illegal voters and votes of the deceased.

In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan,     Richmond &#038; Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)

Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning a questionable popular vote of the entire country.

These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.
The United States is comprised of 3, 797,000 square miles.

When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.

Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country.

Amen. 

JRN]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ All Readers at The Eye,</p>
<p>Re: Current presidential election statistics that underscore why our Founding Fathers devised the Electoral College</p>
<p>There are 3,141 counties in the United States.</p>
<p>    Trump won 3,084 of them.<br />
    Clinton won 57.</p>
<p>    There are 62 counties in New York State.</p>
<p>    Trump won 46 of them.<br />
    Clinton won 16.</p>
<p>Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes, not counting illegal voters and votes of the deceased.</p>
<p>In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan,     Richmond &amp; Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)</p>
<p>Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning a questionable popular vote of the entire country.</p>
<p>These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.<br />
The United States is comprised of 3, 797,000 square miles.</p>
<p>When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.</p>
<p>Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country.</p>
<p>Amen. </p>
<p>JRN</p>
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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Rick Normand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@All Readers at The Eye,

The Wisconsin Electoral Commission has just refused Jill Stein&#039;s request for a recount, while the Michigan Electoral Commission has just certified it&#039;s presidential election vote results (16 Electoral College votes awarded to Donald Trump). So, the presidential election vote recount scam is over with. So much for HRC&#039;s concession speech promises.

JRN]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@All Readers at The Eye,</p>
<p>The Wisconsin Electoral Commission has just refused Jill Stein&#8217;s request for a recount, while the Michigan Electoral Commission has just certified it&#8217;s presidential election vote results (16 Electoral College votes awarded to Donald Trump). So, the presidential election vote recount scam is over with. So much for HRC&#8217;s concession speech promises.</p>
<p>JRN</p>
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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Rick Normand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2016 03:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@All Readers at The Eye,

Trump has won the popular vote (and Electoral Vote) in 30 states, compared to Clinton&#039;s 20 states (and those 20 State Electoral Votes).

If States do NOT certify their respective Electors BY December 19th, and cannot offer a certification of these respective Electors, then the President of the U.S. SENATE counts up the sum of the &quot;majority&quot; of the CERTIFIED ELECTORS to determine who is President. If MI and WI don&#039;t certify in time, they are NOT needed.

In that case, the Republicans don&#039;t need 270 Electors of out of 538, they just need a Majority of the actual CERTIFIED ELECTORS on December 19th!

Trump still WINS! 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@All Readers at The Eye,</p>
<p>Trump has won the popular vote (and Electoral Vote) in 30 states, compared to Clinton&#8217;s 20 states (and those 20 State Electoral Votes).</p>
<p>If States do NOT certify their respective Electors BY December 19th, and cannot offer a certification of these respective Electors, then the President of the U.S. SENATE counts up the sum of the &#8220;majority&#8221; of the CERTIFIED ELECTORS to determine who is President. If MI and WI don&#8217;t certify in time, they are NOT needed.</p>
<p>In that case, the Republicans don&#8217;t need 270 Electors of out of 538, they just need a Majority of the actual CERTIFIED ELECTORS on December 19th!</p>
<p>Trump still WINS!<br />
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JRN</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Rick Normand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2016 22:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ All Readers at The Eye,

ZeroHedge has just posted a truly insightful educational piece on the  Electoral College entitled &quot;Let&#039;s Expand The Electoral College&quot; which, essentially, addresses this concept: The electoral college could and should be expanded to function as a veto mechanism of legislation, executive orders, and Supreme Court rulings. Well worth the read!

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ All Readers at The Eye,</p>
<p>ZeroHedge has just posted a truly insightful educational piece on the  Electoral College entitled &#8220;Let&#8217;s Expand The Electoral College&#8221; which, essentially, addresses this concept: The electoral college could and should be expanded to function as a veto mechanism of legislation, executive orders, and Supreme Court rulings. Well worth the read!</p>
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<p>JRN</p>
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