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		By: Bob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Saw the Dominoes truck yesterday for the first time. Not one of us in five cars were impatient. And the traffic speed is 35 mph. The trucker took a couple of minutes. He has other options but why is it that a couple of minutes for a pizza delivery truck is worth millions of tax money?  That truck driver can pull in to Dominoes with no backing up.  

Ask Dominoes to tell him to not back up if it bothers you that much.  Not a big deal at all with solutions in place if you don&#039;t want to complain.  

And Mr. Mathew no one should extend any part of the human body outside a car or truck when it&#039;s in motion.  I learned that from my driving teachers decades ago.  To bad that you missed the lesson let alone the common sense of it.

And that comment about wind blowing a car dangerously around in the center lane?  Cars weigh thousands of pounds and the wind speed to cause a car to be that unsteady exceeds winds created by passing cars or trucks even at 50 miles per hour.  The speed limit is 35.

Mr. Longo you made some very fine points sir.

Thank you for letting us have a forum to speak.

Bob, uptown]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the Dominoes truck yesterday for the first time. Not one of us in five cars were impatient. And the traffic speed is 35 mph. The trucker took a couple of minutes. He has other options but why is it that a couple of minutes for a pizza delivery truck is worth millions of tax money?  That truck driver can pull in to Dominoes with no backing up.  </p>
<p>Ask Dominoes to tell him to not back up if it bothers you that much.  Not a big deal at all with solutions in place if you don&#8217;t want to complain.  </p>
<p>And Mr. Mathew no one should extend any part of the human body outside a car or truck when it&#8217;s in motion.  I learned that from my driving teachers decades ago.  To bad that you missed the lesson let alone the common sense of it.</p>
<p>And that comment about wind blowing a car dangerously around in the center lane?  Cars weigh thousands of pounds and the wind speed to cause a car to be that unsteady exceeds winds created by passing cars or trucks even at 50 miles per hour.  The speed limit is 35.</p>
<p>Mr. Longo you made some very fine points sir.</p>
<p>Thank you for letting us have a forum to speak.</p>
<p>Bob, uptown</p>
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		By: teak Monkey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it&#039;d medians you want, move back to Sun City !!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;d medians you want, move back to Sun City !!!</p>
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		By: Marty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 18:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim Eaton seems to forget the opposition from businesses when this came up years ago. It was even suggested to connect business properties and create &quot;frontage roads&quot;. Remember how well that went over with commercial property owners? Ha

Has Mr. Eaton considered that Milton Road in Flagstaff functions exactly the same as W89A in Sedona? And seemingly with much more traffic. How is it that people don&#039;t constantly crab about wanting medians there?

Keep it up, folks, and it might be the straw that breaks ADOTs back and they really do say to Sedona &quot;Here, the road belongs to you so do as you wish and PAY FOR IT!&quot;

Go take a look at the short span of 89A presently owned by Sedona and note the complete dysfunctional design they came up with and the ongoing traffic jams.

Yes indeed things can always be worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Eaton seems to forget the opposition from businesses when this came up years ago. It was even suggested to connect business properties and create &#8220;frontage roads&#8221;. Remember how well that went over with commercial property owners? Ha</p>
<p>Has Mr. Eaton considered that Milton Road in Flagstaff functions exactly the same as W89A in Sedona? And seemingly with much more traffic. How is it that people don&#8217;t constantly crab about wanting medians there?</p>
<p>Keep it up, folks, and it might be the straw that breaks ADOTs back and they really do say to Sedona &#8220;Here, the road belongs to you so do as you wish and PAY FOR IT!&#8221;</p>
<p>Go take a look at the short span of 89A presently owned by Sedona and note the complete dysfunctional design they came up with and the ongoing traffic jams.</p>
<p>Yes indeed things can always be worse.</p>
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		By: Linda		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[self-serving median arguments jim...this isn&#039;t for the city it&#039;s for your personal power...enlightenment rules not so much in a city many times without people with stances based on integrity...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>self-serving median arguments jim&#8230;this isn&#8217;t for the city it&#8217;s for your personal power&#8230;enlightenment rules not so much in a city many times without people with stances based on integrity&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ray Visser		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a resident on Sunset Drive and having visited much of the US (being from MN origionally) It seems everyday driving on 89A is taking your life in your hands.

All these arguments against medians is so bogus. They live with these in every city and the reduction in accidents that medians would bring would be enormous. 

Drivers will learn to cope with the slight inconvenience of having to plan their route or perhaps make a u turn or do some business on the other side of the street and then returning on the other side.

Business would benefit because I sometimes avoid pulling into a shop when the traffic is bad or I don&#039;t feel safe crossing to the opposite side. It is the perfect scenario to get T Boned.

Also done properly it could ad to some limited median landscaping which would make the street more attractive and not just a drive through hwy.

My vote goes for medians.

Ray Visser]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resident on Sunset Drive and having visited much of the US (being from MN origionally) It seems everyday driving on 89A is taking your life in your hands.</p>
<p>All these arguments against medians is so bogus. They live with these in every city and the reduction in accidents that medians would bring would be enormous. </p>
<p>Drivers will learn to cope with the slight inconvenience of having to plan their route or perhaps make a u turn or do some business on the other side of the street and then returning on the other side.</p>
<p>Business would benefit because I sometimes avoid pulling into a shop when the traffic is bad or I don&#8217;t feel safe crossing to the opposite side. It is the perfect scenario to get T Boned.</p>
<p>Also done properly it could ad to some limited median landscaping which would make the street more attractive and not just a drive through hwy.</p>
<p>My vote goes for medians.</p>
<p>Ray Visser</p>
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		By: Jim Eaton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Letter to the Editor;
Response to letter about medians

	This is a response to Henry Twombly’s response to my Guest Perspective in the Red Rock News.  In fact, it’s a response to two of Henry Twombly’s letters to your publication.

	First, yes – all of the eleven justifications I gave for 89A medians are true, and I’ve seen them all myself – including semi-trailer trucks unloading in the center lane, using hand trucks, on several occasions in three different locations on West 89A.  Others have too.  I didn’t make them up, and I could have listed more.  If you haven’t seen them yourself, Henry, you don’t drive West 89A much.

	Second, a response to an earlier Twombly letter in which he claimed that the process for drafting Sedona’s new Community Plan is being done in “secret meetings.”  The Citizens Committee for the new Community Plan has held more than a dozen very public input meetings, and is soon to hold at least nine more – with more public meetings next year, followed by formal public hearings and an election.  Twice a month the Committee meets, with legal public notifications.  The Committee has published three mailers and a tabloid newspaper that went to everyone in town.  

	Well more than 1000 comments, ideas and wants have been received, cataloged and analyzed.  There’s a column in the Red Rock News every month this year and next.  There’s a special Community Room showing ideas and other information.  The City has exceeded all requirements, and this process is probably the most thorough and open ever in the history of the State of Arizona, and possibly in the US.  (Much more than any state or federal process.)  

Please tell us what more can be done to satisfy you.
Jim Eaton]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letter to the Editor;<br />
Response to letter about medians</p>
<p>	This is a response to Henry Twombly’s response to my Guest Perspective in the Red Rock News.  In fact, it’s a response to two of Henry Twombly’s letters to your publication.</p>
<p>	First, yes – all of the eleven justifications I gave for 89A medians are true, and I’ve seen them all myself – including semi-trailer trucks unloading in the center lane, using hand trucks, on several occasions in three different locations on West 89A.  Others have too.  I didn’t make them up, and I could have listed more.  If you haven’t seen them yourself, Henry, you don’t drive West 89A much.</p>
<p>	Second, a response to an earlier Twombly letter in which he claimed that the process for drafting Sedona’s new Community Plan is being done in “secret meetings.”  The Citizens Committee for the new Community Plan has held more than a dozen very public input meetings, and is soon to hold at least nine more – with more public meetings next year, followed by formal public hearings and an election.  Twice a month the Committee meets, with legal public notifications.  The Committee has published three mailers and a tabloid newspaper that went to everyone in town.  </p>
<p>	Well more than 1000 comments, ideas and wants have been received, cataloged and analyzed.  There’s a column in the Red Rock News every month this year and next.  There’s a special Community Room showing ideas and other information.  The City has exceeded all requirements, and this process is probably the most thorough and open ever in the history of the State of Arizona, and possibly in the US.  (Much more than any state or federal process.)  </p>
<p>Please tell us what more can be done to satisfy you.<br />
Jim Eaton</p>
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		By: Tom Longo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just came back from a trip to CA and had a chance to visit several cities. When I came back I was able to see my local surroundings through the eyes of a visitor to our area. Our roads are in tip-top shape. The entry way into the VOC from I 17 and the entire length of the 179 corridor is magnificent. As you proceed onto 89A, you find a road that&#039;s totally resurfaced and re-striped. We are fortunate to live in an area like ours. Instead of appreciating what we have and living peacefully in such a magnificent environment, we find fault with what the local and state government is working so hard to accomplish. 

Instead of enjoying what we have, we are constantly being very critical of each other. Is that REALLY why we moved to Sedona? Can&#039;t we leave that excess baggage behind? So what, if we get medians on 89A...they seem to have worked out quite well on 179 in the VOC. No businesses are complaining about lack of business on account of it. 

Let&#039;s just remember why we moved here in the first place before we become critical of everything that&#039;s being done locally. Perhaps, what some of us need is an occasional change of venue to appreciate what we have. Let&#039;s enjoy life in these beautiful surroundings in Peace and Harmony! Isn&#039;t it about time we did?

Tom Longo
Sedona, AZ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came back from a trip to CA and had a chance to visit several cities. When I came back I was able to see my local surroundings through the eyes of a visitor to our area. Our roads are in tip-top shape. The entry way into the VOC from I 17 and the entire length of the 179 corridor is magnificent. As you proceed onto 89A, you find a road that&#8217;s totally resurfaced and re-striped. We are fortunate to live in an area like ours. Instead of appreciating what we have and living peacefully in such a magnificent environment, we find fault with what the local and state government is working so hard to accomplish. </p>
<p>Instead of enjoying what we have, we are constantly being very critical of each other. Is that REALLY why we moved to Sedona? Can&#8217;t we leave that excess baggage behind? So what, if we get medians on 89A&#8230;they seem to have worked out quite well on 179 in the VOC. No businesses are complaining about lack of business on account of it. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just remember why we moved here in the first place before we become critical of everything that&#8217;s being done locally. Perhaps, what some of us need is an occasional change of venue to appreciate what we have. Let&#8217;s enjoy life in these beautiful surroundings in Peace and Harmony! Isn&#8217;t it about time we did?</p>
<p>Tom Longo<br />
Sedona, AZ</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This older woman turned left a business on right hand side of 89A and instead of using the middle lane she zoomed across the 3 lanes and pulled in mine.  WHAT THE ....  you get the idea. remember drivers ed courses?  ought to be mandatory refresher courses.  I slammed on the brakes but she never saw me.  Her head never turned to look for traffic.  I read this story when the email came and knew a comment needed to be made.  People are more polite when entering the middle lane I think.  I have seen people not use it and nearly cause accidents like this older woman.  
I could see the occasional median with no interference with access to its right or left to provide a slowing down mentality but I go to the Wells Fargo and National Bank often on the same trip and the center lane always functions perfect for the Wells Fargo and Java Love cafe areas and Harkins movies.  Must be that grant money some body commented about.  Let me remind every body and the government that all highway improvement money came out of my pocket first after all the government didn&#039;t find it laying on a center lane or median.  With a median I&#039;d be less likely to stop at businesses on the right side when I come in town from the south.  Maybe the businesses on the right side will benefit more.  When I&#039;m in Phoenix I almost never turn back at the medians to go to a business because I&#039;ll keep looking on my side until I find it.  Gas costs and slow traffic make me irritable and bad drivers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This older woman turned left a business on right hand side of 89A and instead of using the middle lane she zoomed across the 3 lanes and pulled in mine.  WHAT THE &#8230;.  you get the idea. remember drivers ed courses?  ought to be mandatory refresher courses.  I slammed on the brakes but she never saw me.  Her head never turned to look for traffic.  I read this story when the email came and knew a comment needed to be made.  People are more polite when entering the middle lane I think.  I have seen people not use it and nearly cause accidents like this older woman.<br />
I could see the occasional median with no interference with access to its right or left to provide a slowing down mentality but I go to the Wells Fargo and National Bank often on the same trip and the center lane always functions perfect for the Wells Fargo and Java Love cafe areas and Harkins movies.  Must be that grant money some body commented about.  Let me remind every body and the government that all highway improvement money came out of my pocket first after all the government didn&#8217;t find it laying on a center lane or median.  With a median I&#8217;d be less likely to stop at businesses on the right side when I come in town from the south.  Maybe the businesses on the right side will benefit more.  When I&#8217;m in Phoenix I almost never turn back at the medians to go to a business because I&#8217;ll keep looking on my side until I find it.  Gas costs and slow traffic make me irritable and bad drivers.</p>
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		By: N. Baer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 16:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amazing. Apparently, people prefer ignoring the fact that it is ADOT that is required by federal law to impose federal highway rules, since Arizona does not have its own, regarding the amount of our traffic and the need to calm it sufficiently to eliminate our 95% plus day time accident rate..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing. Apparently, people prefer ignoring the fact that it is ADOT that is required by federal law to impose federal highway rules, since Arizona does not have its own, regarding the amount of our traffic and the need to calm it sufficiently to eliminate our 95% plus day time accident rate..</p>
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		By: Dr Chet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ever since we, citizens of Sedona, voted massively NOT to have the city take over SR 89A between Airport &#038; Dry Creek Roads, I have been watching for the other side to fire its next salvo - to try and impose traffic medians.  As a resident of one of the &quot;small side streets&quot; that would no doubt be blocked from left turns to our bank, grocery store &#038; city hall, despite our street having been here 35+ years, causing us great inconvenience and indeed dangers due to all the U turns this will generate, I am not surprised it came from a former City planner who no doubt favored local take-over.  One of the reasons so many of us voted against local control was that it automatically would have led to these dangerous medians.  Find other solutions, please!   And stop the expansion of businesses on Airport Mesa, requiring a major change in the Community Plan, while you are at it.  Sedona is doing just fine as it is; we do NOT need endless growth and another convention center either, just to line the pockets of the already-wealthy and give the airport crowd another reason to go commercial.   We moved here for small-town charm, not Scottsdale-like &quot;conveniences&quot;!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since we, citizens of Sedona, voted massively NOT to have the city take over SR 89A between Airport &amp; Dry Creek Roads, I have been watching for the other side to fire its next salvo &#8211; to try and impose traffic medians.  As a resident of one of the &#8220;small side streets&#8221; that would no doubt be blocked from left turns to our bank, grocery store &amp; city hall, despite our street having been here 35+ years, causing us great inconvenience and indeed dangers due to all the U turns this will generate, I am not surprised it came from a former City planner who no doubt favored local take-over.  One of the reasons so many of us voted against local control was that it automatically would have led to these dangerous medians.  Find other solutions, please!   And stop the expansion of businesses on Airport Mesa, requiring a major change in the Community Plan, while you are at it.  Sedona is doing just fine as it is; we do NOT need endless growth and another convention center either, just to line the pockets of the already-wealthy and give the airport crowd another reason to go commercial.   We moved here for small-town charm, not Scottsdale-like &#8220;conveniences&#8221;!!</p>
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