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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 00:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So VOC/Big Park is getting their own Chamber of Commerce? Great news but it won&#039;t matter to the overinflated egos at the Sedona Oak Creek Canyon Chamber of Commerce. Just recently they actually had the audacity to start a campaign for reforming immigration laws. So Verde Valley isn&#039;t enough for them? They intend to take over all of Arizona before moving their headquarters to Washington DC. That would be a happy day. To see them pack up and move OUT!

No matter what you guys out there do the SOC Chamber of Commerce will take full credit. And the City staff and council believe them. Maybe Sedona city limit businesses can join the outlying Chambers and actually get some publicity. Except for a select few, most do not even get mentioned even if they&#039;re dumb enough to be members. About all they can rely on is a swift kick to the curb.

Good for you. Seriously.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So VOC/Big Park is getting their own Chamber of Commerce? Great news but it won&#8217;t matter to the overinflated egos at the Sedona Oak Creek Canyon Chamber of Commerce. Just recently they actually had the audacity to start a campaign for reforming immigration laws. So Verde Valley isn&#8217;t enough for them? They intend to take over all of Arizona before moving their headquarters to Washington DC. That would be a happy day. To see them pack up and move OUT!</p>
<p>No matter what you guys out there do the SOC Chamber of Commerce will take full credit. And the City staff and council believe them. Maybe Sedona city limit businesses can join the outlying Chambers and actually get some publicity. Except for a select few, most do not even get mentioned even if they&#8217;re dumb enough to be members. About all they can rely on is a swift kick to the curb.</p>
<p>Good for you. Seriously.</p>
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		By: Same ****, Different Day		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Same ****, Different Day]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 04:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Restroom = parking pass needed. Do you get it?
They will continue placing restrooms until parking passes are needed everywhere once again. Then ask for volunteers to clean it up.

Please stop griping about participating outside of the city.
Even the VOC/Big Park  is now  ready to open its own Chamber of Commerce. They finally realize that Sedona is not the end all be all in Verde Valley. So does Cottonwood, Jerome, Cornville, Camp Verde. When everyone leaves with their marbles, you are going to be left standing with no one to play with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Restroom = parking pass needed. Do you get it?<br />
They will continue placing restrooms until parking passes are needed everywhere once again. Then ask for volunteers to clean it up.</p>
<p>Please stop griping about participating outside of the city.<br />
Even the VOC/Big Park  is now  ready to open its own Chamber of Commerce. They finally realize that Sedona is not the end all be all in Verde Valley. So does Cottonwood, Jerome, Cornville, Camp Verde. When everyone leaves with their marbles, you are going to be left standing with no one to play with.</p>
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		By: Token Toilets &#38; Pay Per Use		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Token Toilets &#38; Pay Per Use]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 03:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, businesses in the City must pay per use with regards to their toilets.  But the City can just give money towards a free crap-hole outside the City?

It won&#039;t be long before those businesses that remain implement &quot;token toilets.&quot; San Francisco does...   

Perhaps soon, there won&#039;t be many businesses in Sedona left to have to worry about how they are going to be able to afford the over inflated sewer fees and bed taxes. 

Why not have the toilet at Midgley be a quarter per turn? If the expenses and taxes have to be so high, why not have the tourists &quot;pay per use&quot; instead of the brick and mortar businesses?  ....Why must anyone (residents or tourists) pay excessively engorged taxes and support the obscene six-figure wage earnings of the City employees?

Is it only me that thinks that money that is collected from tax payers and tourists IN and FOR the City should be SPENT .....  IN and FOR the City?  Shouldn&#039;t it go towards boosting or supporting those businesses solely in the City?

Wait....maybe the City of Sedona&#039;s wasted, waste water from the Splash Pad will go towards flushing all the CRAP that the City is selling? The City seems to be flushing a lot of tax payer money down the toilet.

Change is needed.  There are still good people out there. Those good people just need to stand tall together and can make a change.  A great start is by voting NO on HOME RULE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, businesses in the City must pay per use with regards to their toilets.  But the City can just give money towards a free crap-hole outside the City?</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t be long before those businesses that remain implement &#8220;token toilets.&#8221; San Francisco does&#8230;   </p>
<p>Perhaps soon, there won&#8217;t be many businesses in Sedona left to have to worry about how they are going to be able to afford the over inflated sewer fees and bed taxes. </p>
<p>Why not have the toilet at Midgley be a quarter per turn? If the expenses and taxes have to be so high, why not have the tourists &#8220;pay per use&#8221; instead of the brick and mortar businesses?  &#8230;.Why must anyone (residents or tourists) pay excessively engorged taxes and support the obscene six-figure wage earnings of the City employees?</p>
<p>Is it only me that thinks that money that is collected from tax payers and tourists IN and FOR the City should be SPENT &#8230;..  IN and FOR the City?  Shouldn&#8217;t it go towards boosting or supporting those businesses solely in the City?</p>
<p>Wait&#8230;.maybe the City of Sedona&#8217;s wasted, waste water from the Splash Pad will go towards flushing all the CRAP that the City is selling? The City seems to be flushing a lot of tax payer money down the toilet.</p>
<p>Change is needed.  There are still good people out there. Those good people just need to stand tall together and can make a change.  A great start is by voting NO on HOME RULE.</p>
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		By: Jerry, Sedona City Limits		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry, Sedona City Limits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 00:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And how is what&#039;s going on in Sedona any different than national politics? Just another case of &quot;the cobbler&#039;s children have no shoes.&quot;

Don&#039;t forget that Sedona businesses within city limits are suffering from high sales and rental taxes plus exorbitant monthly sewer fees. Yep, give money to competition, watch more Sedona businesses close their doors, feed the greedy chamber of commerce. Business as usual. 

Oh for the record, I&#039;m not one of those tea party people that some joker accuses all of being who don&#039;t agree with him. In fact, I&#039;m one of those alien Independents who is presently a victim of becoming disenfranchised to vote in the August election unless I declare a national political party. Fat chance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how is what&#8217;s going on in Sedona any different than national politics? Just another case of &#8220;the cobbler&#8217;s children have no shoes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that Sedona businesses within city limits are suffering from high sales and rental taxes plus exorbitant monthly sewer fees. Yep, give money to competition, watch more Sedona businesses close their doors, feed the greedy chamber of commerce. Business as usual. </p>
<p>Oh for the record, I&#8217;m not one of those tea party people that some joker accuses all of being who don&#8217;t agree with him. In fact, I&#8217;m one of those alien Independents who is presently a victim of becoming disenfranchised to vote in the August election unless I declare a national political party. Fat chance.</p>
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		By: julie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 23:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Jean. I agree the forest service has plently of thier own money. City should only be funding city items. Period.  

They can afford to put in bathrooms on their own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Jean. I agree the forest service has plently of thier own money. City should only be funding city items. Period.  </p>
<p>They can afford to put in bathrooms on their own.</p>
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		By: Eddie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 22:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Jack.

Except for managing my own finances, living within my own budget, and balancing my own checkbook, I must defer to Jean, Richard, and others who are far more capable at furnishing the details of the city budget which you requested.

My concern about the increasingly common practice of &quot;regional&quot; funding is based on the premise of why Sedona incorporated in the first place. To my knowledge it was to establish government and related services, achieve goals ascertained by the voting residents, and assume financial responsibilities within the confines of the designated area, clearly defined on maps and by City Limit signs placed on the State highways. 
 
Is there really a method short of perhaps a detailed audit to ascertain how much of the city funding to the Chamber of Commerce is spent on &quot;regional&quot; businesses and services? (Those who contribute nothing to city coffers except possibly a vacant commitment to share their customers.)
 
As collaborative groups are now organizing, it amounts to &quot;double dipping&quot; in many instances since funding individual participants becomes part of the package.
 
As our school and fire districts are financed by voter approved bonds unrelated to city tax revenues, it makes no sense to me why Sedona City Council continues to approve additional funding for school district activities.
 
In my opinion, even one single penny of city tax dollars spent on regional entities is literally &quot;out of bounds.&quot; However, it appears word is out and how quickly the lines for hand-outs are increasing. Of course, conveniently the name &quot;Sedona&quot; is frequently linked with these regional ventures because, as I was told by a Yavapai County employee who was researching illegal short-term rentals, the word &quot;Sedona&quot; is a lightening rod to attract &quot;takers&quot; when advertising short term rentals which, same as Sedona City, is against the law in Yavapai County.
 
Bottom line: What has happened to the word &quot;no&quot; when it comes down to those asking for money?  However, when asked if monthly sewer fees should remain pat, the answer to that has become an easy &quot;No&quot; as the march to finance the &quot;region&quot; and sock it to the residents has become a way of life for those presently calling the shots. Again, my opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jack.</p>
<p>Except for managing my own finances, living within my own budget, and balancing my own checkbook, I must defer to Jean, Richard, and others who are far more capable at furnishing the details of the city budget which you requested.</p>
<p>My concern about the increasingly common practice of &#8220;regional&#8221; funding is based on the premise of why Sedona incorporated in the first place. To my knowledge it was to establish government and related services, achieve goals ascertained by the voting residents, and assume financial responsibilities within the confines of the designated area, clearly defined on maps and by City Limit signs placed on the State highways. </p>
<p>Is there really a method short of perhaps a detailed audit to ascertain how much of the city funding to the Chamber of Commerce is spent on &#8220;regional&#8221; businesses and services? (Those who contribute nothing to city coffers except possibly a vacant commitment to share their customers.)</p>
<p>As collaborative groups are now organizing, it amounts to &#8220;double dipping&#8221; in many instances since funding individual participants becomes part of the package.</p>
<p>As our school and fire districts are financed by voter approved bonds unrelated to city tax revenues, it makes no sense to me why Sedona City Council continues to approve additional funding for school district activities.</p>
<p>In my opinion, even one single penny of city tax dollars spent on regional entities is literally &#8220;out of bounds.&#8221; However, it appears word is out and how quickly the lines for hand-outs are increasing. Of course, conveniently the name &#8220;Sedona&#8221; is frequently linked with these regional ventures because, as I was told by a Yavapai County employee who was researching illegal short-term rentals, the word &#8220;Sedona&#8221; is a lightening rod to attract &#8220;takers&#8221; when advertising short term rentals which, same as Sedona City, is against the law in Yavapai County.</p>
<p>Bottom line: What has happened to the word &#8220;no&#8221; when it comes down to those asking for money?  However, when asked if monthly sewer fees should remain pat, the answer to that has become an easy &#8220;No&#8221; as the march to finance the &#8220;region&#8221; and sock it to the residents has become a way of life for those presently calling the shots. Again, my opinion.</p>
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		By: Tom G		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 17:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Right on Jean! I&#039;m a  proud tea party member as well and don&#039;t want my Hard Earned tax dollars  being spent so some freeloaders can use a toliet!!  I say let em piss in the woods and leave my tax dollars alone!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on Jean! I&#8217;m a  proud tea party member as well and don&#8217;t want my Hard Earned tax dollars  being spent so some freeloaders can use a toliet!!  I say let em piss in the woods and leave my tax dollars alone!!</p>
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		By: Jack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 16:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone have a total amount of &quot;incorporated Sedona City&quot; funding to non city activities? Love to see a list of all the regional - nonprofits giving money from the city. City managment is out to lunch. They give away to much. NO needs to be learned, TRANSPARENCY Please!  Can someone please post a list? @Eddie @Jean @richard]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have a total amount of &#8220;incorporated Sedona City&#8221; funding to non city activities? Love to see a list of all the regional &#8211; nonprofits giving money from the city. City managment is out to lunch. They give away to much. NO needs to be learned, TRANSPARENCY Please!  Can someone please post a list? @Eddie @Jean @richard</p>
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		By: Jean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 12:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Sedona City Council has approved over $200K in handouts ($10K + $195K) for the Oak Creek Watershed Council. In addition to water testing, the formerly volunteer OCWC now wants to pay its Director and Assistant Director. 

IMO, under the current Mayor and City Manager, more and more entities are hoping to tap City taxpayer funds to help pay for what they are doing--even those working regionally.  The Oak Creek Watershed Council&#039;s efforts involve the entire length of Oak Creek. 

The Forest Service should be paying the cost of the new Midgley Bridge restroom by itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sedona City Council has approved over $200K in handouts ($10K + $195K) for the Oak Creek Watershed Council. In addition to water testing, the formerly volunteer OCWC now wants to pay its Director and Assistant Director. </p>
<p>IMO, under the current Mayor and City Manager, more and more entities are hoping to tap City taxpayer funds to help pay for what they are doing&#8211;even those working regionally.  The Oak Creek Watershed Council&#8217;s efforts involve the entire length of Oak Creek. </p>
<p>The Forest Service should be paying the cost of the new Midgley Bridge restroom by itself.</p>
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		By: Linda Hersey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 17:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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