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		By: 42% of AZ is federally owned land !!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[42% of AZ is federally owned land !!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 19:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Right now the federal government controls about 31 million acres of Arizona - 42 %.  Only 16 % of Arizona is owned by private citizens who pay taxes on that land. The rest of the land doesn&#039;t pay taxes which is why the school systems are lousy. Thank the feds for that! 

Signed a school administrator in AZ (don&#039;t want to be more specific)

No Grand Canyon monument, no Sedona Verde Valley monument. AZ Game and Fish is opposed. Go to Lake Powell boating, go fishing, like Verde kayaking and swimming? Say goodbye. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now the federal government controls about 31 million acres of Arizona &#8211; 42 %.  Only 16 % of Arizona is owned by private citizens who pay taxes on that land. The rest of the land doesn&#8217;t pay taxes which is why the school systems are lousy. Thank the feds for that! </p>
<p>Signed a school administrator in AZ (don&#8217;t want to be more specific)</p>
<p>No Grand Canyon monument, no Sedona Verde Valley monument. AZ Game and Fish is opposed. Go to Lake Powell boating, go fishing, like Verde kayaking and swimming? Say goodbye. </p>
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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Rick Normand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 18:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Readers at The Eye:

Please continue from this article to my next article at The Eye on the subject of the proposed SVVRRNM designation. It is entitled &quot;Damn All of You Who Want All the Facts! (a parody). Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers at The Eye:</p>
<p>Please continue from this article to my next article at The Eye on the subject of the proposed SVVRRNM designation. It is entitled &#8220;Damn All of You Who Want All the Facts! (a parody). Thank you.</p>
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		By: anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Petition to stop NM is here
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/united-citizens-opposing.fb51?source=c.fb&#038;r_by=14115546

Don&#039;t forget anyone can sign it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petition to stop NM is here<br />
<a href="http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/united-citizens-opposing.fb51?source=c.fb&#038;r_by=14115546" rel="nofollow ugc">http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/united-citizens-opposing.fb51?source=c.fb&#038;r_by=14115546</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget anyone can sign it.</p>
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		By: juan pablo firestorm		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/is-there-a-national-monument-designation-downside-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-116677</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[juan pablo firestorm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funny that something designed to protect an area would actually destroy it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that something designed to protect an area would actually destroy it.</p>
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		By: Clean Water Act		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clean Water Act]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We are already a year into it.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/246408-the-epas-big-land-grab

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr3080/text

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/obamas-epa-about-to-make-the-biggest-land-grab-in-the-history-of-the-world

http://www.truthandaction.org/epa-prepares-make-biggest-land-grab-history/

Keep believing you have a say in anything.  Stop waiting for others to do all the work. Get involved for you children and your almost extinct freedom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are already a year into it.</p>
<p><a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/246408-the-epas-big-land-grab" rel="nofollow ugc">http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/246408-the-epas-big-land-grab</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr3080/text" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr3080/text</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/obamas-epa-about-to-make-the-biggest-land-grab-in-the-history-of-the-world" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/obamas-epa-about-to-make-the-biggest-land-grab-in-the-history-of-the-world</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthandaction.org/epa-prepares-make-biggest-land-grab-history/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.truthandaction.org/epa-prepares-make-biggest-land-grab-history/</a></p>
<p>Keep believing you have a say in anything.  Stop waiting for others to do all the work. Get involved for you children and your almost extinct freedom.</p>
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		By: can't agree more!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[can't agree more!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why Sedona? Why not make the Grand Canyon a National Monument?
Sedona’s water rights are in the cross-hairs of the federal government. Senior water rights will become junior water rights under the NM designation. Anyone with a private well or creekside home or irrigation rights will lose those rights to the NM. The Salt River Project has claimed Oak Creek water and for the past 20 years area residents have been fighting to keep their water rights.
Problem – Reaction – Solution = National Monument designation. The NM in Nevada signed by Obama is nothing more than a land and water grab. (See also the stand-off at the Bundy Ranch last year when snipers were placed in position, armed and ready to shoot upon the protesters!)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/21/new-national-monument-nm/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_River_Project
http://www.columbia-institute.org/pdf/FedReservedWaterRights.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Sedona? Why not make the Grand Canyon a National Monument?<br />
Sedona’s water rights are in the cross-hairs of the federal government. Senior water rights will become junior water rights under the NM designation. Anyone with a private well or creekside home or irrigation rights will lose those rights to the NM. The Salt River Project has claimed Oak Creek water and for the past 20 years area residents have been fighting to keep their water rights.<br />
Problem – Reaction – Solution = National Monument designation. The NM in Nevada signed by Obama is nothing more than a land and water grab. (See also the stand-off at the Bundy Ranch last year when snipers were placed in position, armed and ready to shoot upon the protesters!)<br />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/21/new-national-monument-nm/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05/21/new-national-monument-nm/</a><br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_River_Project" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_River_Project</a><br />
<a href="http://www.columbia-institute.org/pdf/FedReservedWaterRights.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.columbia-institute.org/pdf/FedReservedWaterRights.pdf</a></p>
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		By: check those facts		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/is-there-a-national-monument-designation-downside-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-116627</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[check those facts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sharlett while I have hardly ever agreed with you in the past, after reading those facts, I can agree. BTW, I am opposed to the NM for all of the reasons J Rick spouted I just dislike when he spews generalities expecting us folks to take him at his word. YOU HAVE PROVIDED EXACTLY WHAT I HAD ASKED.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharlett while I have hardly ever agreed with you in the past, after reading those facts, I can agree. BTW, I am opposed to the NM for all of the reasons J Rick spouted I just dislike when he spews generalities expecting us folks to take him at his word. YOU HAVE PROVIDED EXACTLY WHAT I HAD ASKED.</p>
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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Rick Normand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To all readers at The Eye:

When the President federalizes land by declaring it a national monument, he can both limit public access and change the water rights associated with the land. In short, the President can unilaterally expand the federal-reserved water rights associated with existing federal lands simply by cloaking it as a National Monument.

Meanwhile, I&#039;ve learned this over the weekend:

WASHINGTON – U.S. Republican Sens. Jeff Flake and John McCain, Arizona, Orrin Hatch and Mike Lee, Utah, introduced a bill Thursday, S. 1416, aiming to prevent the President from changing the existing water-rights designation, of lands declared to be national monuments, to federal senior rights.

JRN]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all readers at The Eye:</p>
<p>When the President federalizes land by declaring it a national monument, he can both limit public access and change the water rights associated with the land. In short, the President can unilaterally expand the federal-reserved water rights associated with existing federal lands simply by cloaking it as a National Monument.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I&#8217;ve learned this over the weekend:</p>
<p>WASHINGTON – U.S. Republican Sens. Jeff Flake and John McCain, Arizona, Orrin Hatch and Mike Lee, Utah, introduced a bill Thursday, S. 1416, aiming to prevent the President from changing the existing water-rights designation, of lands declared to be national monuments, to federal senior rights.</p>
<p>JRN</p>
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		By: sharlett		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sharlett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@check those facts.   I can help you clear up what Council has or has not done with a little information; on Aug 4th Councilwoman Angela L let the public know that she was carring brochures FOR the Natinal Monument.  She continued to work for KSB at a Coffee Chat meeting where she handed out brochures and I believe was so bold as to ask people to sign the KSB NM Petition.  Then she attends the KSB NM Thursday meetings at KSB building and continues to speak up for NM and etc.  On top of that Councilwoman Jessica W has engaged on a Facebook page repudiating or disagreeing with anyone who asks questions that disagree with KSB and when challenged just says she is only trying to correct misinformation.

What more do you need?   At the very least these two elected officials have taken a stance.

And, just to be very clear - Council did take a position when they applauded KSB and asked them to bring the issue back to them....trite maybe?  Nope!  a game where KSB says Council asked them to check it out and Council says KSB asked them to allow them to check it out. What?  Who is on first and who - who  is driving this issue? 

Forget personality issues and lets just get real on the issue.  You can dislike the messenger but stick with the concept - Please!

Next you may want to connect with Representative Bob Thorpe&#039;s office in Phx (district 6) to get a copy of his well drafted letter dated July 21, 2015, listing a lengthy list of people involved in opposition to the grand canyon NM which, I believe, translates to our humble little town and the attempted take over by KSB for a NM.  Names listed in the letter are: House Speaker Gowan, Rep Borellie, Rep Boyer, Rep Campbell, Rep Cobb, Rep Coleman, Rep Fann, Rep Finchem, and etc. Then Senator Allen and Barto and Begay - who all oppose a NM in Northern Az.  He also includes, in his well researched letter, many references to other organization&#039;s opposed to a NM concept.   If you don&#039;t believe me then check it out for yourself.

A Sedona NM?  vs a Grand Canyon NM and so many on the State level are opposed?  1 + 1 = 2.



In any event - we do have council members playing behind the scenes and as they try to ignore their fiduciary responsibility to the electorate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@check those facts.   I can help you clear up what Council has or has not done with a little information; on Aug 4th Councilwoman Angela L let the public know that she was carring brochures FOR the Natinal Monument.  She continued to work for KSB at a Coffee Chat meeting where she handed out brochures and I believe was so bold as to ask people to sign the KSB NM Petition.  Then she attends the KSB NM Thursday meetings at KSB building and continues to speak up for NM and etc.  On top of that Councilwoman Jessica W has engaged on a Facebook page repudiating or disagreeing with anyone who asks questions that disagree with KSB and when challenged just says she is only trying to correct misinformation.</p>
<p>What more do you need?   At the very least these two elected officials have taken a stance.</p>
<p>And, just to be very clear &#8211; Council did take a position when they applauded KSB and asked them to bring the issue back to them&#8230;.trite maybe?  Nope!  a game where KSB says Council asked them to check it out and Council says KSB asked them to allow them to check it out. What?  Who is on first and who &#8211; who  is driving this issue? </p>
<p>Forget personality issues and lets just get real on the issue.  You can dislike the messenger but stick with the concept &#8211; Please!</p>
<p>Next you may want to connect with Representative Bob Thorpe&#8217;s office in Phx (district 6) to get a copy of his well drafted letter dated July 21, 2015, listing a lengthy list of people involved in opposition to the grand canyon NM which, I believe, translates to our humble little town and the attempted take over by KSB for a NM.  Names listed in the letter are: House Speaker Gowan, Rep Borellie, Rep Boyer, Rep Campbell, Rep Cobb, Rep Coleman, Rep Fann, Rep Finchem, and etc. Then Senator Allen and Barto and Begay &#8211; who all oppose a NM in Northern Az.  He also includes, in his well researched letter, many references to other organization&#8217;s opposed to a NM concept.   If you don&#8217;t believe me then check it out for yourself.</p>
<p>A Sedona NM?  vs a Grand Canyon NM and so many on the State level are opposed?  1 + 1 = 2.</p>
<p>In any event &#8211; we do have council members playing behind the scenes and as they try to ignore their fiduciary responsibility to the electorate.</p>
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		By: J. J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2015 18:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Check those Facts needs to Check Those Facts.

See you at the meeting!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check those Facts needs to Check Those Facts.</p>
<p>See you at the meeting!</p>
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