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		By: VOC Resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VOC Resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GO KEN!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GO KEN!</p>
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		By: kenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 05:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OMG.....Let me start by saying, I&#039;ve watched this whole &quot;Chapel Fire Station&quot; debate go on now for several years.  From thousands of dollars being wasted by throwing out approved plans to sign stealing, to the highly successful recall, and now finally an approval to start plans on the new station......but wait....I knew it was too good to be true!!!  

We&#039;ve got one last board member that just cannot bring himself to call upon his God given integrity to tell the truth.  Mr. Dible, can you re-recite your oath for this position please....online I mean.  Maybe typing and seeing the words in front of you will remind you of the trust that was given to you.  This Fire Station will be something to be proud of.  The time and effort of the people in that community that gave of themselves for this cause have shown many of us what a real &quot;A&quot; Team is about.  Craig Dible, you&#039;ve let the A Team down.......&quot;I love it when a REAL plan comes together!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG&#8230;..Let me start by saying, I&#8217;ve watched this whole &#8220;Chapel Fire Station&#8221; debate go on now for several years.  From thousands of dollars being wasted by throwing out approved plans to sign stealing, to the highly successful recall, and now finally an approval to start plans on the new station&#8230;&#8230;but wait&#8230;.I knew it was too good to be true!!!  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got one last board member that just cannot bring himself to call upon his God given integrity to tell the truth.  Mr. Dible, can you re-recite your oath for this position please&#8230;.online I mean.  Maybe typing and seeing the words in front of you will remind you of the trust that was given to you.  This Fire Station will be something to be proud of.  The time and effort of the people in that community that gave of themselves for this cause have shown many of us what a real &#8220;A&#8221; Team is about.  Craig Dible, you&#8217;ve let the A Team down&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;I love it when a REAL plan comes together!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jerry in Sedona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry in Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 02:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Dible,
By now we are all aware that you are not being straight with your constituents. You remind me of a dog that&#039;s trying to get out of a hole and making the hole deeper every time you try. You are far more impressed with yourself than the rest of your constituents are. You may have been an excellent teacher in Beverly Hills, but you are a real dud when it comes to being a SFD board member. You were appointed by your cronies as a way of a &quot;thank you&quot; for helping them in their campaign. If you were a Police or Fire Chief you would get a &quot;no confidence vote.&quot; You are an example of what a SFD Governing Board member should NEVER do. The only reason you were not recalled with the other three compatriots, is that you were appointed. Time to go back to sitting in the back of the room at the SFD Board meetings!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Dible,<br />
By now we are all aware that you are not being straight with your constituents. You remind me of a dog that&#8217;s trying to get out of a hole and making the hole deeper every time you try. You are far more impressed with yourself than the rest of your constituents are. You may have been an excellent teacher in Beverly Hills, but you are a real dud when it comes to being a SFD board member. You were appointed by your cronies as a way of a &#8220;thank you&#8221; for helping them in their campaign. If you were a Police or Fire Chief you would get a &#8220;no confidence vote.&#8221; You are an example of what a SFD Governing Board member should NEVER do. The only reason you were not recalled with the other three compatriots, is that you were appointed. Time to go back to sitting in the back of the room at the SFD Board meetings!</p>
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		By: Wendy V. Tanzer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy V. Tanzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Dible...

Do you realize what your most recent post reveals?  When all your cliched vitriol tired simile and long-ago sitcom references are eliminated, you quite clearly indicate how keenly aware you have been ALL ALONG of a potential &quot;disclosure&quot; issue.  

Yet you believe that foreknowledge to be irrelevant? And you decided it would only be necessary to disclose that information, when?

Obviously not during the presentation of &quot;cost estimates.&quot;  Nor during any consideration thereof.  Only AFTER acceptance of your &quot;proposal&quot; would you have made the necessary disclosures.  Up to and including the possibility of recusing yourself from any subsequent votes.  See paragraph seven of your post.

Isn&#039;t that interpretation of your obligations(s) to the public trust conveniently self-serving? Many of us certainly believe so.

Again, as to Mr. Blauert:  Regardless of his involvement or lack thereof in construction projects, he IS undeniably an Officer of the Corporation.  Still HUGE.  

Also, again - in case it wasn&#039;t made abundantly clear in my last post:  It is not innocent contractors whose reputations have been damaged, Mr. Dible.  It is YOURS.  Try as you might to divert responsibility for what you describe as their plight, facts are facts.  YOU pulled their good names into the frey.  

Matters of public record are exactly that.  My listing them in any public forum is NOT defamation.  What law books are your reading?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Dible&#8230;</p>
<p>Do you realize what your most recent post reveals?  When all your cliched vitriol tired simile and long-ago sitcom references are eliminated, you quite clearly indicate how keenly aware you have been ALL ALONG of a potential &#8220;disclosure&#8221; issue.  </p>
<p>Yet you believe that foreknowledge to be irrelevant? And you decided it would only be necessary to disclose that information, when?</p>
<p>Obviously not during the presentation of &#8220;cost estimates.&#8221;  Nor during any consideration thereof.  Only AFTER acceptance of your &#8220;proposal&#8221; would you have made the necessary disclosures.  Up to and including the possibility of recusing yourself from any subsequent votes.  See paragraph seven of your post.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that interpretation of your obligations(s) to the public trust conveniently self-serving? Many of us certainly believe so.</p>
<p>Again, as to Mr. Blauert:  Regardless of his involvement or lack thereof in construction projects, he IS undeniably an Officer of the Corporation.  Still HUGE.  </p>
<p>Also, again &#8211; in case it wasn&#8217;t made abundantly clear in my last post:  It is not innocent contractors whose reputations have been damaged, Mr. Dible.  It is YOURS.  Try as you might to divert responsibility for what you describe as their plight, facts are facts.  YOU pulled their good names into the frey.  </p>
<p>Matters of public record are exactly that.  My listing them in any public forum is NOT defamation.  What law books are your reading?</p>
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		By: Rich Collister		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Collister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My God Diable!!!!   You sound like a baby who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar!!!  &quot;Well my hand was&#039;nt really in there&quot; or &quot;well it was in there but I was&#039;nt trying to take nothing&quot;!!!  

You are a coward!!!!  Your outright lies, your constant misstating the facts, seem to only prove that you KNOW that you and your buddy Blauert were acting inappropiately if not criminal!!!. Be a Man and resign your position on the board...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God Diable!!!!   You sound like a baby who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar!!!  &#8220;Well my hand was&#8217;nt really in there&#8221; or &#8220;well it was in there but I was&#8217;nt trying to take nothing&#8221;!!!  </p>
<p>You are a coward!!!!  Your outright lies, your constant misstating the facts, seem to only prove that you KNOW that you and your buddy Blauert were acting inappropiately if not criminal!!!. Be a Man and resign your position on the board&#8230;</p>
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		By: Andy in the VOC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy in the VOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately for you, the FACTS, even though you are trying your best to twist them around to benefit your unethical behavior, speak for themselves.

As a public figure, appointed to represent all of the residents within the Sedona Fire District, you are expected to function with the highest of standards and act in a manner that&#039;s beyond reproach. You need to make sure that your actions are never even&quot; perceived&quot; as potential conflicts of interest. Unfortunately, you have gone well beyond that stage and you are now within the area that points to your having committed acts of impropriety with the aid of a former SFD board member who has been recalled, Dave Blauert. 

Do yourself and your constituents a favor... stop while you are ahead and resign on your own volition from the SFD board while you still can, instead of being forced to resign under mounting pressure from various sources.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately for you, the FACTS, even though you are trying your best to twist them around to benefit your unethical behavior, speak for themselves.</p>
<p>As a public figure, appointed to represent all of the residents within the Sedona Fire District, you are expected to function with the highest of standards and act in a manner that&#8217;s beyond reproach. You need to make sure that your actions are never even&#8221; perceived&#8221; as potential conflicts of interest. Unfortunately, you have gone well beyond that stage and you are now within the area that points to your having committed acts of impropriety with the aid of a former SFD board member who has been recalled, Dave Blauert. </p>
<p>Do yourself and your constituents a favor&#8230; stop while you are ahead and resign on your own volition from the SFD board while you still can, instead of being forced to resign under mounting pressure from various sources.</p>
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		By: Mrs. Rodger Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mrs. Rodger Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Dible, you keep saying that you “look at the facts” but you keep trying to twist those FACTS to defend misstatements.  Chief Kris has already said very clearly that your “less expensive” Glenwood Springs fire station is NOT really less expensive because it is LACKING many expensive vital components needed for a “real” fire station.  So, once again, you are not speaking facts. 

So who shall we listen to; a retired teacher who has no knowledge about the firefighting field or a highly educated professional fire fighter that, in his short time in Sedona, has quickly gained the community’s trust and respect?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Dible, you keep saying that you “look at the facts” but you keep trying to twist those FACTS to defend misstatements.  Chief Kris has already said very clearly that your “less expensive” Glenwood Springs fire station is NOT really less expensive because it is LACKING many expensive vital components needed for a “real” fire station.  So, once again, you are not speaking facts. </p>
<p>So who shall we listen to; a retired teacher who has no knowledge about the firefighting field or a highly educated professional fire fighter that, in his short time in Sedona, has quickly gained the community’s trust and respect?</p>
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		By: VOC Resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VOC Resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Dible:

Since you like to go back to old saying&#039;s, how about this one:

If it quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, IT&#039;S A DUCK!

If Dave Blauert, a recalled and voted out member of the Board signed on as &quot;an officer&quot; then he&#039;s AN OFFICER of the corporation. Just because he just sits on his butt and doesn&#039;t do anything doesn&#039;t make him less of an officer. 

When you say that none of this matters, YOU&#039;RE WRONG Mr. Dible because YOU as a public figure, went too far by presenting the &quot;cost estimates&quot; without disclosing. That matters a whole lot to this community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Dible:</p>
<p>Since you like to go back to old saying&#8217;s, how about this one:</p>
<p>If it quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, IT&#8217;S A DUCK!</p>
<p>If Dave Blauert, a recalled and voted out member of the Board signed on as &#8220;an officer&#8221; then he&#8217;s AN OFFICER of the corporation. Just because he just sits on his butt and doesn&#8217;t do anything doesn&#8217;t make him less of an officer. </p>
<p>When you say that none of this matters, YOU&#8217;RE WRONG Mr. Dible because YOU as a public figure, went too far by presenting the &#8220;cost estimates&#8221; without disclosing. That matters a whole lot to this community.</p>
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		By: Craig Dible		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Dible]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many of us still remember that old TV series, The A Team, where Hannibal Smith would say, “I love it when a plan comes together.”

Well, Mrs. Tanzer, your plan isn’t coming together – it’s falling apart.

Your well-orchestrated campaign of unsupported accusations and personal attacks is not going to succeed.  The mud is not going to stick.  And your credibility is melting like ice cream on a hot summer day.

For example, you state that the information provided by the two contractors were “cost estimates” for the Glenwood Springs Fire Station design.  Nothing more than that.

But then you go on, portraying these voluntary acts as “blatant, intentional, collusion.”  Further, you call it “suspicious, potentially illegal, and certainly conspiratorial behavior.”  And finally, one of my “glaring misdeeds.”

Let’s forget the hyperbole and look at the facts.

For the sake of argument, we’ll say the Glenwood Springs Fire Station design had been accepted by the SFD Board and advanced to the actual bidding stage.  Now obviously, at that point, any relationship I had with these two contractors would need to be disclosed and I’d have to recuse myself from participation in the contractor selection process.

But the project never even got close to that point.  The Glenwood Springs Fire Station design was rejected at the July 18th SFD Board Meeting when the majority of the members voted to approve the bigger, more expensive LEA Chapel Station design.

As to the accusation that one of the contractors has a business relationship with Dave Blauert, I asked the owner of Seay Construction about that.  She told me Mr. Blauert helped her start the business by signing on as an officer.  However, she also informed me that he hasn’t actively participated or involved himself in any of Seay Construction’s projects for more than four years.

So, I guess this wasn’t as HUGE as you claimed, either.

But, again, none of this matters because the Glenwood Springs Fire Station never got past the proposal stage because it was rejected.  And the only thing these contractors provided were “cost estimates.”  Period.

What does matter is the potential damage done by you to the two contractors who must continue to do business here.

Knowing of your fondness for citing the law, I know you will appreciate reviewing one of the classic standards for determining defamation:  Attacks on a person&#039;s professional character or standing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of us still remember that old TV series, The A Team, where Hannibal Smith would say, “I love it when a plan comes together.”</p>
<p>Well, Mrs. Tanzer, your plan isn’t coming together – it’s falling apart.</p>
<p>Your well-orchestrated campaign of unsupported accusations and personal attacks is not going to succeed.  The mud is not going to stick.  And your credibility is melting like ice cream on a hot summer day.</p>
<p>For example, you state that the information provided by the two contractors were “cost estimates” for the Glenwood Springs Fire Station design.  Nothing more than that.</p>
<p>But then you go on, portraying these voluntary acts as “blatant, intentional, collusion.”  Further, you call it “suspicious, potentially illegal, and certainly conspiratorial behavior.”  And finally, one of my “glaring misdeeds.”</p>
<p>Let’s forget the hyperbole and look at the facts.</p>
<p>For the sake of argument, we’ll say the Glenwood Springs Fire Station design had been accepted by the SFD Board and advanced to the actual bidding stage.  Now obviously, at that point, any relationship I had with these two contractors would need to be disclosed and I’d have to recuse myself from participation in the contractor selection process.</p>
<p>But the project never even got close to that point.  The Glenwood Springs Fire Station design was rejected at the July 18th SFD Board Meeting when the majority of the members voted to approve the bigger, more expensive LEA Chapel Station design.</p>
<p>As to the accusation that one of the contractors has a business relationship with Dave Blauert, I asked the owner of Seay Construction about that.  She told me Mr. Blauert helped her start the business by signing on as an officer.  However, she also informed me that he hasn’t actively participated or involved himself in any of Seay Construction’s projects for more than four years.</p>
<p>So, I guess this wasn’t as HUGE as you claimed, either.</p>
<p>But, again, none of this matters because the Glenwood Springs Fire Station never got past the proposal stage because it was rejected.  And the only thing these contractors provided were “cost estimates.”  Period.</p>
<p>What does matter is the potential damage done by you to the two contractors who must continue to do business here.</p>
<p>Knowing of your fondness for citing the law, I know you will appreciate reviewing one of the classic standards for determining defamation:  Attacks on a person&#8217;s professional character or standing.</p>
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		By: Tom Longo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Longo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neva,

I agree with almost all you had to say, except for &quot;Perhaps you ought to just lay low for the next few months, until you can slink off back to that rock you crawled out from under.&quot; For the good of the organization and for his personal reputation, since he is now a huge target, he should resign NOW before he is forced to resign under indictment and possible prosecution. If that were to happen, there won&#039;t be a rock big enough for him to hide under.

Tom Longo
Sedona, AZ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neva,</p>
<p>I agree with almost all you had to say, except for &#8220;Perhaps you ought to just lay low for the next few months, until you can slink off back to that rock you crawled out from under.&#8221; For the good of the organization and for his personal reputation, since he is now a huge target, he should resign NOW before he is forced to resign under indictment and possible prosecution. If that were to happen, there won&#8217;t be a rock big enough for him to hide under.</p>
<p>Tom Longo<br />
Sedona, AZ</p>
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