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		By: Eddie S. Maddock		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/eye-on-sedona-council-quotes-quips-or-quirks/comment-page-1/#comment-16250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie S. Maddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 19:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh Marsha, if ever there was a double-dare-you opportunity this has to be it! But of course this article is about using words. So, Heaven help me, here goes.

Maybe members of the Sedona City Council (&quot;Councilors&quot; versus &quot;Council Members&quot;) are &quot;affluent&quot; and therefore do not believe their &quot;effluent&quot; is &quot;odorous.&quot; 

Support for this theory may lie within their decision to approve via the Consent Agenda Section of the Council Meeting May 14, 2013, specified as &quot;m. AB 1585 award of construction contract for the Sedona Wetlands Preserve Recreation Component Project with McDonald Bros. Construction, Inc. in the amount of $161,200.45.&quot;    

Translated: Facilities for picnics and other recreational activities. So clearly they do not anticipate any &quot;odoriferous&quot; interference.  

Because you are in Prescott you may not be aware the Sedona Wetlands Preserve Recreation Component is actually an upgraded title for the Sedona Wastewater Treatment Plant (to put it nicely.) 

To be fair, this current City Council cannot take credit, or be blamed as the case may be, for the term &quot;Councilors&quot; as they inherited the label. Initially members of the Sedona City Council were, in fact, referred to as Council Members, Councilmen/man; Councilwomen/woman. Maybe someone out yonder in cyberspace might be able to pinpoint how and why the changes were made to reflect what, indeed, some consider to be a very unnecessary affectation in a place with the original intent of maintaining a small town atmosphere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Marsha, if ever there was a double-dare-you opportunity this has to be it! But of course this article is about using words. So, Heaven help me, here goes.</p>
<p>Maybe members of the Sedona City Council (&#8220;Councilors&#8221; versus &#8220;Council Members&#8221;) are &#8220;affluent&#8221; and therefore do not believe their &#8220;effluent&#8221; is &#8220;odorous.&#8221; </p>
<p>Support for this theory may lie within their decision to approve via the Consent Agenda Section of the Council Meeting May 14, 2013, specified as &#8220;m. AB 1585 award of construction contract for the Sedona Wetlands Preserve Recreation Component Project with McDonald Bros. Construction, Inc. in the amount of $161,200.45.&#8221;    </p>
<p>Translated: Facilities for picnics and other recreational activities. So clearly they do not anticipate any &#8220;odoriferous&#8221; interference.  </p>
<p>Because you are in Prescott you may not be aware the Sedona Wetlands Preserve Recreation Component is actually an upgraded title for the Sedona Wastewater Treatment Plant (to put it nicely.) </p>
<p>To be fair, this current City Council cannot take credit, or be blamed as the case may be, for the term &#8220;Councilors&#8221; as they inherited the label. Initially members of the Sedona City Council were, in fact, referred to as Council Members, Councilmen/man; Councilwomen/woman. Maybe someone out yonder in cyberspace might be able to pinpoint how and why the changes were made to reflect what, indeed, some consider to be a very unnecessary affectation in a place with the original intent of maintaining a small town atmosphere.</p>
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		By: Marsha, Prescott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marsha, Prescott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 16:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is there any particular reason why your elected council members in Sedona are called Councilors? Everyplace else it seems they are referred to as Councilman, Councilwoman, or in general Council Members? This is easy to check out by reading articles in the Arizona Republic, especially about the Phoenix &#038; Scottsdale City Councils. It seems sort of snooty to me and maybe one of the reasons Sedona has such a snobbish reputation?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any particular reason why your elected council members in Sedona are called Councilors? Everyplace else it seems they are referred to as Councilman, Councilwoman, or in general Council Members? This is easy to check out by reading articles in the Arizona Republic, especially about the Phoenix &amp; Scottsdale City Councils. It seems sort of snooty to me and maybe one of the reasons Sedona has such a snobbish reputation?</p>
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		By: E.S. Maddock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.S. Maddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, SEDONA CITY HALL

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 17, 2013, 3:00 PM

Primary purpose:

DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION RELATING TO FUTURE PLANS FOR THE POSSE GROUNDS PAVILION AND POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE CURRENT POSSE GROUNDS PARK OPERATIONS PLAN.

Cable Channel 4 for live coverage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING<br />
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, SEDONA CITY HALL</p>
<p>WEDNESDAY, APRIL 17, 2013, 3:00 PM</p>
<p>Primary purpose:</p>
<p>DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION RELATING TO FUTURE PLANS FOR THE POSSE GROUNDS PAVILION AND POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE CURRENT POSSE GROUNDS PARK OPERATIONS PLAN.</p>
<p>Cable Channel 4 for live coverage.</p>
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		By: Hip Hip Hurray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hip Hip Hurray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hip hip hurray #2.  I say change Barb&#039;s park to &quot;Adams Folly&quot; since in a recent report Sedona is jammed with cars, people, etc. these days, many who are staying in hotels/motels/timeshares. But according to uptown retailers not too many are actually spending money shopping.

Therefore since the chamber of commerce is so intent to bring in even more tourists, and city council is willing give them more tax money to advertise or hire more high priced employees (at the chamber) and even if they stay over night or whatever they think makes them &quot;destination tourists&quot; and even tho they aren&#039;t spending money in souvenir shops, they do enjoy the free offerings. 

So by all means lets put the city in debt for many more parks on Oak Creek and &quot;Adams Follies&quot; out at the sewer plant so our visitors can buy their subs and sodas at a local market and have free rides and picnics with the swans and duckies. 

If Sedona residents sit silently while this dog &#038; pony show continues with their ridiculous acts, don&#039;t complain when bonds or special taxing districts are imposed with or without your consent.Speak up now or forever remain silent for that&#039;s all your voice will amount to later on. Your silence at this time could serve to have reflected volumes later on if you suddenly find the changes in &quot;small town&quot; Sedona not to your liking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hip hip hurray #2.  I say change Barb&#8217;s park to &#8220;Adams Folly&#8221; since in a recent report Sedona is jammed with cars, people, etc. these days, many who are staying in hotels/motels/timeshares. But according to uptown retailers not too many are actually spending money shopping.</p>
<p>Therefore since the chamber of commerce is so intent to bring in even more tourists, and city council is willing give them more tax money to advertise or hire more high priced employees (at the chamber) and even if they stay over night or whatever they think makes them &#8220;destination tourists&#8221; and even tho they aren&#8217;t spending money in souvenir shops, they do enjoy the free offerings. </p>
<p>So by all means lets put the city in debt for many more parks on Oak Creek and &#8220;Adams Follies&#8221; out at the sewer plant so our visitors can buy their subs and sodas at a local market and have free rides and picnics with the swans and duckies. </p>
<p>If Sedona residents sit silently while this dog &amp; pony show continues with their ridiculous acts, don&#8217;t complain when bonds or special taxing districts are imposed with or without your consent.Speak up now or forever remain silent for that&#8217;s all your voice will amount to later on. Your silence at this time could serve to have reflected volumes later on if you suddenly find the changes in &#8220;small town&#8221; Sedona not to your liking.</p>
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		By: James Harrington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Harrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 00:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been a while since throwing in my two cents worth but am unable to continue sitting in silence. Just picked up on comment from Sedona Grandpa and, with all due respect, have you heard there&#039;s &quot;no free lunch?&quot; 

Agreeing that money has the ability to buy anything, there&#039;s always an unknown price tag as in &quot;the piper must be paid.&quot; And in the case of what&#039;s going on with this city council  (Mike Ward obviously being the only one to dare challenge the mayor) the burden will, eventually, fall on Sedona residents. 

My hunch is that if someone with real smarts suggested a city code that from here on out would establish a policy that &quot;nothing in Sedona will heretofore be named after a politician&quot; it might very well change priorities for certain council members, past, present, and future.

Also how about revisiting the thought that &quot;the best things in life are free&quot; including what&#039;s left of our beautiful scenic Sedona red rocks, many hiking trails and areas on Oak Creek, and even night skies in spite of the hype from those who claimed the only way to save our starlit skies would be to own a State Hiway.

It&#039;s apparent that at least one council member, Barbara Latrell, continues to pursue that concept (to own west 89A probably so she can pass approval for more signs in Sedona) because of her questioning at the council meeting last Tuesday (4/9) of an unfortunate ADOT representative who drew the unlucky straw to present an update on ADOT&#039;s current financial constraints.

&quot;Everything has a price&quot; even though it might be passed on to those who didn&#039;t make the purchase. Example: government at all levels. 

In Sedona not only are those at risk of losing property due to need of drainage overhaul, everyone, especially residents, will be destined to suffer financial consequences and responsibility for decisions now on the table by those who will be long gone after the repercussions of their nasty deeds are fully recognized.

All of us except what appears to be the fair haired elitists are in the position of being &quot;sacrificial lambs.&quot;  

Hip hip hurray for renaming Barbara&#039;s Park to Rob Adams. That might be the only recourse to stop the nonsense of chasing rainbows to purchase unaffordable properties for creek walks, creek parks, and blah, blah, blah at the sewer plant and most CIP projects at the expense of Sedona residents. Oops, overlooked the idiotic proposal for &quot;partnerships&quot; which, translated means &quot;We&#039;ll co-invest now but eventually expect the city to take over in toto.&quot; (Example: Teen Center; Future example: proposed Art Museum.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a while since throwing in my two cents worth but am unable to continue sitting in silence. Just picked up on comment from Sedona Grandpa and, with all due respect, have you heard there&#8217;s &#8220;no free lunch?&#8221; </p>
<p>Agreeing that money has the ability to buy anything, there&#8217;s always an unknown price tag as in &#8220;the piper must be paid.&#8221; And in the case of what&#8217;s going on with this city council  (Mike Ward obviously being the only one to dare challenge the mayor) the burden will, eventually, fall on Sedona residents. </p>
<p>My hunch is that if someone with real smarts suggested a city code that from here on out would establish a policy that &#8220;nothing in Sedona will heretofore be named after a politician&#8221; it might very well change priorities for certain council members, past, present, and future.</p>
<p>Also how about revisiting the thought that &#8220;the best things in life are free&#8221; including what&#8217;s left of our beautiful scenic Sedona red rocks, many hiking trails and areas on Oak Creek, and even night skies in spite of the hype from those who claimed the only way to save our starlit skies would be to own a State Hiway.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s apparent that at least one council member, Barbara Latrell, continues to pursue that concept (to own west 89A probably so she can pass approval for more signs in Sedona) because of her questioning at the council meeting last Tuesday (4/9) of an unfortunate ADOT representative who drew the unlucky straw to present an update on ADOT&#8217;s current financial constraints.</p>
<p>&#8220;Everything has a price&#8221; even though it might be passed on to those who didn&#8217;t make the purchase. Example: government at all levels. </p>
<p>In Sedona not only are those at risk of losing property due to need of drainage overhaul, everyone, especially residents, will be destined to suffer financial consequences and responsibility for decisions now on the table by those who will be long gone after the repercussions of their nasty deeds are fully recognized.</p>
<p>All of us except what appears to be the fair haired elitists are in the position of being &#8220;sacrificial lambs.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Hip hip hurray for renaming Barbara&#8217;s Park to Rob Adams. That might be the only recourse to stop the nonsense of chasing rainbows to purchase unaffordable properties for creek walks, creek parks, and blah, blah, blah at the sewer plant and most CIP projects at the expense of Sedona residents. Oops, overlooked the idiotic proposal for &#8220;partnerships&#8221; which, translated means &#8220;We&#8217;ll co-invest now but eventually expect the city to take over in toto.&#8221; (Example: Teen Center; Future example: proposed Art Museum.)</p>
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		By: Sedona Grandpa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sedona Grandpa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 20:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t know if its proper to write about something from another paper but the results of a poll were that 55.8% responses said to forget the Barbara Park and deny that other Backyard place for entertainment over by the Bashas. (sure the poll was unofficial but so was the cockeyed one used by the city planners and their high priced survey) also one in the paper was about what city should do with outdoor stages and not just parks in general.

Now my question is then the city spends $100,000 for a study to get the result they want, that sooo many people want more parks? who says money can&#039;t by everything? 

When grandma and myself take the grand kids to the Sunset park or that one out in the village, why, it&#039;s never just standing room only. That means that at least most days of the week theres plenty room for all. In fact, many folks are tourists so its hard to say how many locals use the parks we have now so that part of the &quot;study&quot; was at least honest but the poll was not. I repeat, who says money can&#039;t by everything?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know if its proper to write about something from another paper but the results of a poll were that 55.8% responses said to forget the Barbara Park and deny that other Backyard place for entertainment over by the Bashas. (sure the poll was unofficial but so was the cockeyed one used by the city planners and their high priced survey) also one in the paper was about what city should do with outdoor stages and not just parks in general.</p>
<p>Now my question is then the city spends $100,000 for a study to get the result they want, that sooo many people want more parks? who says money can&#8217;t by everything? </p>
<p>When grandma and myself take the grand kids to the Sunset park or that one out in the village, why, it&#8217;s never just standing room only. That means that at least most days of the week theres plenty room for all. In fact, many folks are tourists so its hard to say how many locals use the parks we have now so that part of the &#8220;study&#8221; was at least honest but the poll was not. I repeat, who says money can&#8217;t by everything?</p>
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		By: Andy and Mary Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy and Mary Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding the Sedona City Council meeting 04/09/13, we believe it&#039;s a nice thing for quarterly updates from Fire Chief Kris Kazian at the City Council meetings. Consideration to do the same with the SOCSD Superintendent Dave Lykins might also be a good idea. 

However, a clear distinction should be made that both the School and Fire Districts are separated from incorporated Sedona since they encompass larger areas than the confinements of Sedona City Limits.

Also, the taxes levied from the counties we live, Coconino or Yavapai, are on behalf of the School and Fire Districts and not Sedona City functions. We take pride and are grateful that we do not reside within Sedona City Limits and do not wish to be identified with that entity through association of our School and Fire Districts.

Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Sedona City Council meeting 04/09/13, we believe it&#8217;s a nice thing for quarterly updates from Fire Chief Kris Kazian at the City Council meetings. Consideration to do the same with the SOCSD Superintendent Dave Lykins might also be a good idea. </p>
<p>However, a clear distinction should be made that both the School and Fire Districts are separated from incorporated Sedona since they encompass larger areas than the confinements of Sedona City Limits.</p>
<p>Also, the taxes levied from the counties we live, Coconino or Yavapai, are on behalf of the School and Fire Districts and not Sedona City functions. We take pride and are grateful that we do not reside within Sedona City Limits and do not wish to be identified with that entity through association of our School and Fire Districts.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		By: Eddie S. Maddock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie S. Maddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The following information was sent to me via e-mail. It&#039;s with permission from the sender that I post the communication herewith:

&quot; ALERT ITEM 9e ABSENT FROM VIDEO RECORDING POSTED ON CITY SITE OF TONIGHT&#039;S CITY COUNCIL MEETING 04/09/13

ITEM 9I 

 Here’s the other part of tonight’s meeting . . . discussion about the water injection system and AMA’s (Activity Management Areas). There was talk about the city “receiving credits.” Barbara voted against the motion that passed. This is right out of Agenda 21. Also Mike Ward talked about the Forest Service taking back the forest by restricting mountain biking.

 00:56   The Mayor asks other councilors if anyone has approached them about the Mayor’s HOA meeting being about “Barbara’s Park.” He’s brought the subject up several times this evening.

 

ITEM 9e          AB 1532 Discussion/possible action regarding  approval of award of a construction contract for the WWTP Class A+ Reclaimed Water Injection Test Well with Yellow Jacket Drilling Services in the amount of $475,500. 

 

Totally missing from the video record on the url below. Discussion was about AMA’s and the water injection system. Dan McIlroy asked what the initials represented, but I don’t think he comprehended that it was part of Agenda 21.&quot;

 

http://sedonaaz.swagit.com/play/04092013-710]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following information was sent to me via e-mail. It&#8217;s with permission from the sender that I post the communication herewith:</p>
<p>&#8221; ALERT ITEM 9e ABSENT FROM VIDEO RECORDING POSTED ON CITY SITE OF TONIGHT&#8217;S CITY COUNCIL MEETING 04/09/13</p>
<p>ITEM 9I </p>
<p> Here’s the other part of tonight’s meeting . . . discussion about the water injection system and AMA’s (Activity Management Areas). There was talk about the city “receiving credits.” Barbara voted against the motion that passed. This is right out of Agenda 21. Also Mike Ward talked about the Forest Service taking back the forest by restricting mountain biking.</p>
<p> 00:56   The Mayor asks other councilors if anyone has approached them about the Mayor’s HOA meeting being about “Barbara’s Park.” He’s brought the subject up several times this evening.</p>
<p>ITEM 9e          AB 1532 Discussion/possible action regarding  approval of award of a construction contract for the WWTP Class A+ Reclaimed Water Injection Test Well with Yellow Jacket Drilling Services in the amount of $475,500. </p>
<p>Totally missing from the video record on the url below. Discussion was about AMA’s and the water injection system. Dan McIlroy asked what the initials represented, but I don’t think he comprehended that it was part of Agenda 21.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://sedonaaz.swagit.com/play/04092013-710" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sedonaaz.swagit.com/play/04092013-710</a></p>
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		By: City Council Meetings Reminder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[City Council Meetings Reminder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 16:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sedona City Council Meetings, Tuesday April 9, 2013

&quot;Special Meeting&quot; 3:00 p.m. Council Chambers, Sedona City Hall*
&quot;Regular Meeting&quot; 4:30 p.m. Council Chambers, Sedona City Hall**

Attend in person or view on Local Access TV Channel 4.

* . . . ** = Individual 10 x 5.5 inch ads published prior to these meetings. At what cost? Remember, these ads appear before all council meetings. (every two weeks or more frequently depending on additional &quot;special meetings&quot; which seem to become more and more prevalent as city council terms encounter time constraints)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sedona City Council Meetings, Tuesday April 9, 2013</p>
<p>&#8220;Special Meeting&#8221; 3:00 p.m. Council Chambers, Sedona City Hall*<br />
&#8220;Regular Meeting&#8221; 4:30 p.m. Council Chambers, Sedona City Hall**</p>
<p>Attend in person or view on Local Access TV Channel 4.</p>
<p>* . . . ** = Individual 10 x 5.5 inch ads published prior to these meetings. At what cost? Remember, these ads appear before all council meetings. (every two weeks or more frequently depending on additional &#8220;special meetings&#8221; which seem to become more and more prevalent as city council terms encounter time constraints)</p>
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		By: Frank E.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What will this City Council have accomplished if they rile up VOTING residents to the point there is yet again more ballot issues aka Referendum/Initiative. 

It appears the legacy they are establishing is to set the record for the P word: Provoking residents to the limit.

If they continue their march to increasing sales taxes or any other form of citizen financial abuse, they should vacate their seats and admit to having failed the MAJORITY of the people who elected them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will this City Council have accomplished if they rile up VOTING residents to the point there is yet again more ballot issues aka Referendum/Initiative. </p>
<p>It appears the legacy they are establishing is to set the record for the P word: Provoking residents to the limit.</p>
<p>If they continue their march to increasing sales taxes or any other form of citizen financial abuse, they should vacate their seats and admit to having failed the MAJORITY of the people who elected them.</p>
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