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		By: The Evans Family, North Dakota		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/election-central-2016-city-of-sedona-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-129878</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Evans Family, North Dakota]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2016 23:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Realizing this comment most likely will not be taken seriously (not that it matters) we can honestly say we are shocked with what has happened to Sedona. As visiting tourists over the years (and which no way had anything to do with Chamber of Commerce promotion) it was one of our very favorite locations - away from big city life, but offering outdoor activities, a selection of good restaurants, and if we were so inclined after a day of hiking and getting back to nature, we had the opportunity to take in a movie or even listen to local entertainment at a cocktail lounge. Consideration for retirement in Sedona was high on the list. No more.

Just reading what has happened is nothing short of what&#039;s happened to the country nationally. To be specific, council elections have been bought and paid for. This is easily traceable by researching Sedona Eye archives and following the trail of just how the Chamber of Commerce and this Segner fellow with his lodging group is like reading a novel. Each chapter of the well cited city council meetings clearly documents the manipulation that has brought respectable City of Sedona to its knees.

Best of luck to you, and you will most likely need it. You can count us out as future tourists and definitely retirees. Why would we choose Sedona as a place to spend our remaining years? Or even one more day for that matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realizing this comment most likely will not be taken seriously (not that it matters) we can honestly say we are shocked with what has happened to Sedona. As visiting tourists over the years (and which no way had anything to do with Chamber of Commerce promotion) it was one of our very favorite locations &#8211; away from big city life, but offering outdoor activities, a selection of good restaurants, and if we were so inclined after a day of hiking and getting back to nature, we had the opportunity to take in a movie or even listen to local entertainment at a cocktail lounge. Consideration for retirement in Sedona was high on the list. No more.</p>
<p>Just reading what has happened is nothing short of what&#8217;s happened to the country nationally. To be specific, council elections have been bought and paid for. This is easily traceable by researching Sedona Eye archives and following the trail of just how the Chamber of Commerce and this Segner fellow with his lodging group is like reading a novel. Each chapter of the well cited city council meetings clearly documents the manipulation that has brought respectable City of Sedona to its knees.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you, and you will most likely need it. You can count us out as future tourists and definitely retirees. Why would we choose Sedona as a place to spend our remaining years? Or even one more day for that matter.</p>
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		By: Kathryn Heidepriem		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathryn Heidepriem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2016 20:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Sedona Eye and Harry D. for this apparently verbatim documentation of the forum; I also looked at most of the video, and it appears to be exact.  So sad to have no environmentalists in the picture, but at least it is possible to see where we stand vis a vis the candidates and the council.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Sedona Eye and Harry D. for this apparently verbatim documentation of the forum; I also looked at most of the video, and it appears to be exact.  So sad to have no environmentalists in the picture, but at least it is possible to see where we stand vis a vis the candidates and the council.</p>
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		By: Mary C		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2016 00:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Government workers working unpaid overtime, surely you jest? We could save them all the horror of unpaid overtime by just shutting down the City of Sedona. I can imagine an over six figure salary working 4 days a week is just hell. I&#039;m sure with their valuable skills they could easily find a better paying job somewhere else. Then again, as poorly as this city is run, probably not. 

The Village of Oak seems just fine without a city. Please enlighten us with all the reasons Sedona is better off than the Village? Then tell us why you don&#039;t live in the city of Sedona, but just collect funds from the city of Sedona?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government workers working unpaid overtime, surely you jest? We could save them all the horror of unpaid overtime by just shutting down the City of Sedona. I can imagine an over six figure salary working 4 days a week is just hell. I&#8217;m sure with their valuable skills they could easily find a better paying job somewhere else. Then again, as poorly as this city is run, probably not. </p>
<p>The Village of Oak seems just fine without a city. Please enlighten us with all the reasons Sedona is better off than the Village? Then tell us why you don&#8217;t live in the city of Sedona, but just collect funds from the city of Sedona?</p>
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		By: @Jess Lookin		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/election-central-2016-city-of-sedona-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-129346</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Jess Lookin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2016 20:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When have I even seen a government worker with unpaid overtime you ask???? 

How about a salaried worker that&#039;s who. But I bet you knew the answer but like to stir the pot. They get paid for 40 hours even if they have to work 60 hours. What a great deal for YOU TAX PAYERS. 

As for question number 2, you assume a lot as a matter of fact your entire rant is an assumption. You are proof positive of the old adage about assuming anything. 

Question #3, that can&#039;t be your final insult because you take insult with anything positive on this site written about the City.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When have I even seen a government worker with unpaid overtime you ask???? </p>
<p>How about a salaried worker that&#8217;s who. But I bet you knew the answer but like to stir the pot. They get paid for 40 hours even if they have to work 60 hours. What a great deal for YOU TAX PAYERS. </p>
<p>As for question number 2, you assume a lot as a matter of fact your entire rant is an assumption. You are proof positive of the old adage about assuming anything. </p>
<p>Question #3, that can&#8217;t be your final insult because you take insult with anything positive on this site written about the City.</p>
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		By: @jess lookin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@jess lookin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[that sounds like jessica. isn&#039;t she already on council? that the only one fired from sedona gov. maybe you&#039;re confused the government in sedona is limited they are are an incorporated area within the county, within  the state. They do not have anything to do with schools, adot, or fire and emergency services. I know it confusing as they pretend to be a island. 
Did you read  Arizona Takes a Necessary Right Turn! on the Sedona Eye?
Yipee for the new law! Thanks Rick and and AZL!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that sounds like jessica. isn&#8217;t she already on council? that the only one fired from sedona gov. maybe you&#8217;re confused the government in sedona is limited they are are an incorporated area within the county, within  the state. They do not have anything to do with schools, adot, or fire and emergency services. I know it confusing as they pretend to be a island.<br />
Did you read  Arizona Takes a Necessary Right Turn! on the Sedona Eye?<br />
Yipee for the new law! Thanks Rick and and AZL!</p>
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		By: Jess Lookin		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/election-central-2016-city-of-sedona-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-129341</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jess Lookin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I actually did consider running for city council a number of  years ago.  I went to city hall to apply, the clerk handed me a 3 ring binder about 3 inches thick with all the rules and requirements for applying.  One of the requirements as I recall is that I collect  200 signatures of registered voters before I could apply. I guess that is easy if you are sponsored by  the Chamber of Commerce.  Not being a chamber member I did not feel like standing in front of Basha&#039;s explaining why  I wanted to help out the city while asking for signatures. 

With the damage that has been done by both city council and city management over the past few years, anyone would be crazy to want to be now associated with managing this poorly run sinking ship. Unless of course they were benefiting financially or otherwise . That leaves me and most honest citizens out of the running. 

Since we are given no choice, I suggest boycotting the election.  Just don&#039;t vote. Why would you even waste a minute? Let them fail with their own illegitimacy.  When you see them in town shun them. 

karma will give them what they deserve. 

Blessings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually did consider running for city council a number of  years ago.  I went to city hall to apply, the clerk handed me a 3 ring binder about 3 inches thick with all the rules and requirements for applying.  One of the requirements as I recall is that I collect  200 signatures of registered voters before I could apply. I guess that is easy if you are sponsored by  the Chamber of Commerce.  Not being a chamber member I did not feel like standing in front of Basha&#8217;s explaining why  I wanted to help out the city while asking for signatures. </p>
<p>With the damage that has been done by both city council and city management over the past few years, anyone would be crazy to want to be now associated with managing this poorly run sinking ship. Unless of course they were benefiting financially or otherwise . That leaves me and most honest citizens out of the running. </p>
<p>Since we are given no choice, I suggest boycotting the election.  Just don&#8217;t vote. Why would you even waste a minute? Let them fail with their own illegitimacy.  When you see them in town shun them. </p>
<p>karma will give them what they deserve. </p>
<p>Blessings.</p>
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		By: Jess lookin		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/election-central-2016-city-of-sedona-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-129336</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jess lookin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s it......I can&#039;t take this Sedona government anymore...
I&#039;m running for city council.....

My qualification:   I once worked for the government I&#039;m complaining about....But I Got FIRED....     Oppppps]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s it&#8230;&#8230;I can&#8217;t take this Sedona government anymore&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m running for city council&#8230;..</p>
<p>My qualification:   I once worked for the government I&#8217;m complaining about&#8230;.But I Got FIRED&#8230;.     Oppppps</p>
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		By: Jess Lookin		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/election-central-2016-city-of-sedona-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-129332</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jess Lookin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2016 16:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The funniest comment so far is a great laugh. Lets look at it in detail.

1)&quot;Most Sedona employees work 4 days a week but still work 40 hours and most times more, where’s the issue????? 40 hours is still 40 hours, right????&quot;

When have you ever seen a government employee worker work  unpaid overtime? When you get to the window at 4:30, and they say, sure I&#039;ll stay another 15 minutes to take care of you? What about the normal work day when city offices are closed for the convenience of the employees? Do we work for the city employees or do they work for us?

2)&quot;I think that it’s a great deal to share the pain with tourists that come, leave their sales or bed tax AND LEAVE US AFTER A FEW DAYS. &quot;

This is assuming these magic tourists don&#039;t clog and wear out our roads, drop trash, require traffic personnel uptown, use our sewer system that we subsidize for them. They just come and leave money. I can&#039;t imagine a tourist staying in a hotel taking multiple long hot showers with no concern about the sewer. Millions of  them. RIGHT. 

3) Then  the final insult is the city council makes sure they gift most of what they collect back to the Chamber of Commerce go bring in more tourists. This without a concern that the City of Sedona Budget is in deficit by MILLIONS. More magic cost free tourists will solve the problem, even though it never has before. Remember when they claimed the tourists would pay for everything? My monthly sewer bill and the nearly 10% sales tax I pay sure does not reflect that. The weekend traffic that is so heavy I don&#039;t want to leave my home does not improve my quality of life. 

Maybe the new city council will be fiscally responsible to the citizens of Sedona? My bet is they continue to insult us, pay the Chamber to advertise for more tourists and &quot;improve&quot; the whole Verde Valley with our tax dollars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funniest comment so far is a great laugh. Lets look at it in detail.</p>
<p>1)&#8221;Most Sedona employees work 4 days a week but still work 40 hours and most times more, where’s the issue????? 40 hours is still 40 hours, right????&#8221;</p>
<p>When have you ever seen a government employee worker work  unpaid overtime? When you get to the window at 4:30, and they say, sure I&#8217;ll stay another 15 minutes to take care of you? What about the normal work day when city offices are closed for the convenience of the employees? Do we work for the city employees or do they work for us?</p>
<p>2)&#8221;I think that it’s a great deal to share the pain with tourists that come, leave their sales or bed tax AND LEAVE US AFTER A FEW DAYS. &#8221;</p>
<p>This is assuming these magic tourists don&#8217;t clog and wear out our roads, drop trash, require traffic personnel uptown, use our sewer system that we subsidize for them. They just come and leave money. I can&#8217;t imagine a tourist staying in a hotel taking multiple long hot showers with no concern about the sewer. Millions of  them. RIGHT. </p>
<p>3) Then  the final insult is the city council makes sure they gift most of what they collect back to the Chamber of Commerce go bring in more tourists. This without a concern that the City of Sedona Budget is in deficit by MILLIONS. More magic cost free tourists will solve the problem, even though it never has before. Remember when they claimed the tourists would pay for everything? My monthly sewer bill and the nearly 10% sales tax I pay sure does not reflect that. The weekend traffic that is so heavy I don&#8217;t want to leave my home does not improve my quality of life. </p>
<p>Maybe the new city council will be fiscally responsible to the citizens of Sedona? My bet is they continue to insult us, pay the Chamber to advertise for more tourists and &#8220;improve&#8221; the whole Verde Valley with our tax dollars.</p>
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		By: Joe Jackson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2016 02:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Taxes you PAY

Jennifer Wisselhoff told the City Council of Rob Adams that the citizens of Sedona do not contribute to the tax base of Sedona. Her words were it&#039;s minimal. She lied. She would say anything to get tax payers dollars. The City Council was so stupid that they believed it. What a joke.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxes you PAY</p>
<p>Jennifer Wisselhoff told the City Council of Rob Adams that the citizens of Sedona do not contribute to the tax base of Sedona. Her words were it&#8217;s minimal. She lied. She would say anything to get tax payers dollars. The City Council was so stupid that they believed it. What a joke.</p>
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		By: Taxes you PAY		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/election-central-2016-city-of-sedona-city-council/comment-page-1/#comment-129315</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taxes you PAY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 23:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Come on Flatlanders wake up YOu ALL pay taxes.
You PAY Property taxes through the county. That is what pays for the schools and fire department ,sheriff&#039;s Flood control.
You pay STATE income tax.
You pay Sales tax on ALL shipments to your house like Home depot ect.
You PAY Sales tax on internet items.
You Pay Franchise and sales on your utilities, cell phones
You Pay for license fees  
Guess what the city gets their fair share. The city gets $$$$ from state and counties. 
As far as taxes goes the residents PAY much more into the city then the special interests groups want you to know as they are outside the city limits and benefitting from YOUR taxes. 
This special interest  group dominates the eye Always using a false name.Name calling and flat out lying. They don&#039;t want anyone to stop the gravy train. It is amount the MONEY! Follow the money.
NEW Law Bill SB 1487 state law is in effect. J.Rick Normand article here on the eye explains it well. Read it, know it and live with it. GO go go AZ liberty.  We can hope the chamber will have to pay back the millions they stole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Flatlanders wake up YOu ALL pay taxes.<br />
You PAY Property taxes through the county. That is what pays for the schools and fire department ,sheriff&#8217;s Flood control.<br />
You pay STATE income tax.<br />
You pay Sales tax on ALL shipments to your house like Home depot ect.<br />
You PAY Sales tax on internet items.<br />
You Pay Franchise and sales on your utilities, cell phones<br />
You Pay for license fees<br />
Guess what the city gets their fair share. The city gets $$$$ from state and counties.<br />
As far as taxes goes the residents PAY much more into the city then the special interests groups want you to know as they are outside the city limits and benefitting from YOUR taxes.<br />
This special interest  group dominates the eye Always using a false name.Name calling and flat out lying. They don&#8217;t want anyone to stop the gravy train. It is amount the MONEY! Follow the money.<br />
NEW Law Bill SB 1487 state law is in effect. J.Rick Normand article here on the eye explains it well. Read it, know it and live with it. GO go go AZ liberty.  We can hope the chamber will have to pay back the millions they stole.</p>
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