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		By: Andrew &#38; Sally		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew &#38; Sally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2019 17:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;It is a good plan&quot; @Steve Segner. Do you speak with authority or is that YOUR OPINION?  It seems you have much to say about EVERYTHING, but fail to qualify who apparently died and left you King - not only of Sedona but the entire Verde Valley. BTW have you ever considered taking a remedial course in writing skills, including sentence structure and spelling?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is a good plan&#8221; @Steve Segner. Do you speak with authority or is that YOUR OPINION?  It seems you have much to say about EVERYTHING, but fail to qualify who apparently died and left you King &#8211; not only of Sedona but the entire Verde Valley. BTW have you ever considered taking a remedial course in writing skills, including sentence structure and spelling?</p>
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		By: Steve Segner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Segner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2019 14:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Andrew &#038; Sally says:They” (city staff) will bring it back and try to push it through when people aren’t paying attention. Wait and see.
 I hope they do and  and it will not be PUSHED  THROUGH it will voted on in public......It is a good plan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &amp; Sally says:They” (city staff) will bring it back and try to push it through when people aren’t paying attention. Wait and see.<br />
 I hope they do and  and it will not be PUSHED  THROUGH it will voted on in public&#8230;&#8230;It is a good plan.</p>
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		By: Andrew &#38; Sally		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew &#38; Sally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2019 01:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@R. Gajewski:  &quot;“They” (city staff) will bring it back and try to push it through when people aren’t paying attention. Wait and see.&quot;

Amen &#038; Hallelujah = SPOT ON!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@R. Gajewski:  &#8220;“They” (city staff) will bring it back and try to push it through when people aren’t paying attention. Wait and see.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen &amp; Hallelujah = SPOT ON!!</p>
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		By: R. Gajewski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R. Gajewski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2019 21:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Based on the standing room only crowd at the P &#038; Z meeting Tuesday Matt, Eric, &#038; Vern are correct. I&#039;m surprised speakers didn&#039;t lose their cool and shake fists at the commissioners. A loud message was sent from the RESIDENTS!  (and isn&#039;t that who these appointed commissioners AND elected City Council is supposed to represent? Versus what THEY think is BEST for Us?)

Crock of crap and it&#039;s fortunate the proposed zoning/amendment to the community plan was tabled - at least for the time being.  &quot;TIME BEING&quot; - operative words. &quot;They&quot; (city staff) will bring it back and try to push it through when people aren&#039;t paying attention. Wait and see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the standing room only crowd at the P &amp; Z meeting Tuesday Matt, Eric, &amp; Vern are correct. I&#8217;m surprised speakers didn&#8217;t lose their cool and shake fists at the commissioners. A loud message was sent from the RESIDENTS!  (and isn&#8217;t that who these appointed commissioners AND elected City Council is supposed to represent? Versus what THEY think is BEST for Us?)</p>
<p>Crock of crap and it&#8217;s fortunate the proposed zoning/amendment to the community plan was tabled &#8211; at least for the time being.  &#8220;TIME BEING&#8221; &#8211; operative words. &#8220;They&#8221; (city staff) will bring it back and try to push it through when people aren&#8217;t paying attention. Wait and see.</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2019 15:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@SCHOBERT is an ass. Ignorant city paid employee or council?

To the person who asked, You must be joking if you think I support massive developments anywhere. WE ARE A DESERT WITH DIMISHED WATER SUPPLIES AND A CREEK THAT IS CONSTANTLY POLLUTED BY UNCHECKED TOURISM. What&#039;d I ever say to make you think that??????? Manufactured single family homes in west Sedona aren&#039;t ugly, best value for the builders buck, and are SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. That&#039;s what the city can&#039;t stand. They hate manufactured homes because local builders don&#039;t get an outrageous builders fee, etc. Got it? CITY wants OUR LAND FOR THEIR CRONIES. @Eric you got it man, you too Vern.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SCHOBERT is an ass. Ignorant city paid employee or council?</p>
<p>To the person who asked, You must be joking if you think I support massive developments anywhere. WE ARE A DESERT WITH DIMISHED WATER SUPPLIES AND A CREEK THAT IS CONSTANTLY POLLUTED BY UNCHECKED TOURISM. What&#8217;d I ever say to make you think that??????? Manufactured single family homes in west Sedona aren&#8217;t ugly, best value for the builders buck, and are SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. That&#8217;s what the city can&#8217;t stand. They hate manufactured homes because local builders don&#8217;t get an outrageous builders fee, etc. Got it? CITY wants OUR LAND FOR THEIR CRONIES. @Eric you got it man, you too Vern.</p>
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		By: What's missing		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What's missing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here we do again. Cottonwood, Camp Verde and the surrounding unincorporated have grown. They have expanded into other industries. They have not limited themselves. They have been wise to see the Sedona dysfunction and open doors. 

The wine industry is a great example. They have also been smart enough to take advantage of the city, chamber and lodging screw ups. Back in the nineties Sedona got high prices for everyday hotel rooms. Especially during peak season. People paid it. The character of stores and restaurants drove everyone into town including LOCALS. 

Then the city started co-mingling, drove prices up. Starting approving more rooms. The more rooms the prices came down. The art galleries started to leave. Cheap items were put in place. The rents soared and the city made sure they got 3.5% sales tax on the rent. 

Restaurants, galleries and retail stores started moving to outside city limits where they could get FREE city promotion without paying. They could charge the same as in-city while marketing they save 3.5% of the cost. 

Since the city was asleep at the wheel Jerome, VOC, Cornville, Cottonwood grew. They maintained the character and got Sedona prices and had better business.

Gone are the days were everyone clustered to Sedona. It a good drive through just like the traffic study confirmed. 

Stop with the garabely goop talk steve Segner. 

IMO]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we do again. Cottonwood, Camp Verde and the surrounding unincorporated have grown. They have expanded into other industries. They have not limited themselves. They have been wise to see the Sedona dysfunction and open doors. </p>
<p>The wine industry is a great example. They have also been smart enough to take advantage of the city, chamber and lodging screw ups. Back in the nineties Sedona got high prices for everyday hotel rooms. Especially during peak season. People paid it. The character of stores and restaurants drove everyone into town including LOCALS. </p>
<p>Then the city started co-mingling, drove prices up. Starting approving more rooms. The more rooms the prices came down. The art galleries started to leave. Cheap items were put in place. The rents soared and the city made sure they got 3.5% sales tax on the rent. </p>
<p>Restaurants, galleries and retail stores started moving to outside city limits where they could get FREE city promotion without paying. They could charge the same as in-city while marketing they save 3.5% of the cost. </p>
<p>Since the city was asleep at the wheel Jerome, VOC, Cornville, Cottonwood grew. They maintained the character and got Sedona prices and had better business.</p>
<p>Gone are the days were everyone clustered to Sedona. It a good drive through just like the traffic study confirmed. </p>
<p>Stop with the garabely goop talk steve Segner. </p>
<p>IMO</p>
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		By: steve Segner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve Segner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 15:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vern says: 
 Why do you think  Cottonwood or CV or Flag. Should be immune from growth? 
Studies show the Verde valley will grow , the growth was only postponed by the recession of 2008. The county will allow projects to proceed if they are even close to the zoning they need. I am not saying I like it ,I am just stating growth is coming. NIMBY arguments will not hold up with the county. The county will weight the need for work force housing and the income it will receive from new developments against the no growth arguments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vern says:<br />
 Why do you think  Cottonwood or CV or Flag. Should be immune from growth?<br />
Studies show the Verde valley will grow , the growth was only postponed by the recession of 2008. The county will allow projects to proceed if they are even close to the zoning they need. I am not saying I like it ,I am just stating growth is coming. NIMBY arguments will not hold up with the county. The county will weight the need for work force housing and the income it will receive from new developments against the no growth arguments.</p>
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		By: Vern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2019 21:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nobody in Sedona is in favor of massive manufactured housing projects and they shouldn&#039;t be in favor in Cottonwood or CV or Flag. It requires massive infrastructure costs, minimal gain on revenue, our water issues would result in hundreds if not thousands of lawsuits by individual landowners or a huge civil lawsuit similar to those in other states. Towns and cities would face lawsuits and their elected officials can be held liable. El Rojo wasn&#039;t worth building for hundreds of reasons. This is a desert, legally it retains desert status with the Supreme Courts that are better equipped to know property rights laws.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody in Sedona is in favor of massive manufactured housing projects and they shouldn&#8217;t be in favor in Cottonwood or CV or Flag. It requires massive infrastructure costs, minimal gain on revenue, our water issues would result in hundreds if not thousands of lawsuits by individual landowners or a huge civil lawsuit similar to those in other states. Towns and cities would face lawsuits and their elected officials can be held liable. El Rojo wasn&#8217;t worth building for hundreds of reasons. This is a desert, legally it retains desert status with the Supreme Courts that are better equipped to know property rights laws.</p>
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		By: Alan J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2019 18:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Sedona Keith:  Seems to me it wasn&#039;t that long ago when the Sedona City Council strongly objected to that El Rojo project:   https://sedonaeye.com/eddie-maddock-massive-sedona-700-mobile-home-and-rv-site-rezoning-near-approval/

If they go for increased density now, what&#039;s changed except this amendment will directly affect properties within City Limits?  Or will this represent a new twist on the most recent $2.5 million city revenue presently in the palms of the &quot;regional&quot; chamber of commerce? Don&#039;t forget about that Jordan Road property &quot;they&quot; purchased with city revenue. $800,000???

Ya just can&#039;t make this stuff up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sedona Keith:  Seems to me it wasn&#8217;t that long ago when the Sedona City Council strongly objected to that El Rojo project:   <a href="https://sedonaeye.com/eddie-maddock-massive-sedona-700-mobile-home-and-rv-site-rezoning-near-approval/" rel="ugc">https://sedonaeye.com/eddie-maddock-massive-sedona-700-mobile-home-and-rv-site-rezoning-near-approval/</a></p>
<p>If they go for increased density now, what&#8217;s changed except this amendment will directly affect properties within City Limits?  Or will this represent a new twist on the most recent $2.5 million city revenue presently in the palms of the &#8220;regional&#8221; chamber of commerce? Don&#8217;t forget about that Jordan Road property &#8220;they&#8221; purchased with city revenue. $800,000???</p>
<p>Ya just can&#8217;t make this stuff up!</p>
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		By: @Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Anonymous not true. The city overstepped and gave a private industry favoritism.

Now that industry are the ones b******* cause they don&#039;t want any competition. 

But if you look, the hotel industry is buying up long term rentals and making them &quot;overflow&quot; rooms. In addition all the mandatory employee housing was converted to SELL ABLE hotel rooms. 

This is what happens when you gift away and step into private industry enrichment and benefits. Why not have a balance in Sedona? Cause that group that get favors and $$$$ don&#039;t want it. They like it exactly that way. With 1350 a retired person can rent out a room to make some money. Balance is needed. Your favoritism and subsidies has ruined sedona IMO.

Private industry should pay their own expenses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous not true. The city overstepped and gave a private industry favoritism.</p>
<p>Now that industry are the ones b******* cause they don&#8217;t want any competition. </p>
<p>But if you look, the hotel industry is buying up long term rentals and making them &#8220;overflow&#8221; rooms. In addition all the mandatory employee housing was converted to SELL ABLE hotel rooms. </p>
<p>This is what happens when you gift away and step into private industry enrichment and benefits. Why not have a balance in Sedona? Cause that group that get favors and $$$$ don&#8217;t want it. They like it exactly that way. With 1350 a retired person can rent out a room to make some money. Balance is needed. Your favoritism and subsidies has ruined sedona IMO.</p>
<p>Private industry should pay their own expenses.</p>
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