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		By: Donna, Sedona		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donna, Sedona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OMG People Wake Up!]]></description>
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		By: A Real "Flatlander"		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Real "Flatlander"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 04:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe it&#039;s time for a reality check of the &quot;want to be players&quot; currently trying to take over our small town.  Luckily, I was on someone&#039;s mailing list and they felt there was real value in letting everyone know so I received the following: 

&quot;Below is a paste of a &#039;do-not-pass-around&#039; email sent by Steve Segner.   Steve Segner is the President of the Sedona Lodging Council. 

For those of you who are not aware: the Sedona Lodging Council begged the City Council, in conjunction with and as Partners of the Sedona (Regional) Chamber of Commerce to raise the City Bed Tax Rates which allowed all lodging business&#039;s outside our City limits to a windfall of people wanting to not pay a higher tax.

Please Read on: 
&quot;From: Steve Segner  

Cc: SANDY MORIARTY  
Subject: lets meet please do not pass around 
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:39:26 -0700 



 We need to do something that puts Sand on the map, the hill top people are Hamilton’s they hang together butt they are few....  We need the flatlanders....
 
 
 I see cliff as a life long autocrat...  We need to tell that story “Sandy gets her hands dirty....  Cliff talks and talks down.
 
 Can you get me his background?  I am thinking about a large rental truck parked around town with sides with Sands posters…   remember all Sedona residents go to two locations each week, Bash’s and Safeway,
 
 Lets be smart, lets run a gorilla marketing campaign
 
 I think Cliff will try to paint the chamber in a bad light so he can come in and fix things ,lets keep the chamber out of this,  and talk about and  Cliff and his imperil management stile.
 I think using the &quot;T&quot; party as a comment would be good. 


         Steve&quot;
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....So, there ya go folks - the President of the Sedona Lodging Council - which is a side bar or affinity group of the (Regional) Sedona Chamber of Commerce which receives, I believe, the largest financial hand out from the City -  is calling most of us &quot;Flatlanders&quot;  as in dumb downs?... And He wants to run a &quot;gorilla marketing campaign&quot; as he believes He is so smart when in fact he is an embarrassment to his industry, our community and only wants to negate the rest of us as being dumber than rocks in order to have the City pay for advertising he wants for free. 

Now, lets look at this link: 2012-860134659-09d177ca-9O.pdf  

This is the link to the Chambers 990 filing, with the State, where they clearly state: they &quot;promote &#038; Foster the CIVIC, ECONOMIC &#038; SOCIAL WELFARE OF ITS MEMBERSHIP AND PROMOTE TOURISM FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA AND ITS SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES&quot;.  (never realized the Chamber was responsible for Social Welfare - but hey - call me a flatlander!)

That is just the tip of the iceberg:  the 990 report, signed by Jennifer W...goes on to say &quot;THE CHAMBER MAINTAINED 459 MEMBERS IN THE TOURISM BUREAU; ASSISTED 449 TRADE PROFESSIONALS; ASSISTED 130 MEETING/EVENT PLANNERS; PARTICIPATED IN 6 TRAVEL TRADE SHOWS AND, IN CONJUNCTION WITH AZ OFFICE OF TOURISM, SALES MISSIONS TO LOS ANGELES AND LAS VEGAS.  VISITATION TO WEBSITE BY 1.2 MILLION VISITORS; IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHERS PROMOTED LOCAL EVENTS, RAN NUMEROUS ADVERTISEMENTS, ...............and on and on.............NO Where does this legal report mention 1000 members.  The report does state that their VISITOR CENTER ASSISTED 346,00 WALK-IN VISITORS (which would equate to some average of 900 a day?) and then she would like us to believe that a few lines down when she states that: &quot;THE CHAMBER STRIVED TO INCREASE THE AWARENESS AND PARTICIPATION OF ITS 980 MEMBERS IN CHAMBER PROGRAMS.....    Well I&#039;m just tired of quoting and oh so tired of trying to get the Chambers numbers of members to equal the 1000 Jennifer keeps quoting to the City Council. 

So my intelligent friends - I&#039;ve given you what I received...sure as hell hope you appreciate the duplicity and self promotions expressed by Steve Segner to Sandy Moriarty who wants to be Mayor -  at the expense of all us &quot;flatlanders&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it&#8217;s time for a reality check of the &#8220;want to be players&#8221; currently trying to take over our small town.  Luckily, I was on someone&#8217;s mailing list and they felt there was real value in letting everyone know so I received the following: </p>
<p>&#8220;Below is a paste of a &#8216;do-not-pass-around&#8217; email sent by Steve Segner.   Steve Segner is the President of the Sedona Lodging Council. </p>
<p>For those of you who are not aware: the Sedona Lodging Council begged the City Council, in conjunction with and as Partners of the Sedona (Regional) Chamber of Commerce to raise the City Bed Tax Rates which allowed all lodging business&#8217;s outside our City limits to a windfall of people wanting to not pay a higher tax.</p>
<p>Please Read on:<br />
&#8220;From: Steve Segner  </p>
<p>Cc: SANDY MORIARTY<br />
Subject: lets meet please do not pass around<br />
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:39:26 -0700 </p>
<p> We need to do something that puts Sand on the map, the hill top people are Hamilton’s they hang together butt they are few&#8230;.  We need the flatlanders&#8230;.</p>
<p> I see cliff as a life long autocrat&#8230;  We need to tell that story “Sandy gets her hands dirty&#8230;.  Cliff talks and talks down.</p>
<p> Can you get me his background?  I am thinking about a large rental truck parked around town with sides with Sands posters…   remember all Sedona residents go to two locations each week, Bash’s and Safeway,</p>
<p> Lets be smart, lets run a gorilla marketing campaign</p>
<p> I think Cliff will try to paint the chamber in a bad light so he can come in and fix things ,lets keep the chamber out of this,  and talk about and  Cliff and his imperil management stile.<br />
 I think using the &#8220;T&#8221; party as a comment would be good. </p>
<p>         Steve&#8221;<br />
&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;</p>
<p>&#8230;.So, there ya go folks &#8211; the President of the Sedona Lodging Council &#8211; which is a side bar or affinity group of the (Regional) Sedona Chamber of Commerce which receives, I believe, the largest financial hand out from the City &#8211;  is calling most of us &#8220;Flatlanders&#8221;  as in dumb downs?&#8230; And He wants to run a &#8220;gorilla marketing campaign&#8221; as he believes He is so smart when in fact he is an embarrassment to his industry, our community and only wants to negate the rest of us as being dumber than rocks in order to have the City pay for advertising he wants for free. </p>
<p>Now, lets look at this link: 2012-860134659-09d177ca-9O.pdf  </p>
<p>This is the link to the Chambers 990 filing, with the State, where they clearly state: they &#8220;promote &amp; Foster the CIVIC, ECONOMIC &amp; SOCIAL WELFARE OF ITS MEMBERSHIP AND PROMOTE TOURISM FOR THE CITY OF SEDONA AND ITS SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES&#8221;.  (never realized the Chamber was responsible for Social Welfare &#8211; but hey &#8211; call me a flatlander!)</p>
<p>That is just the tip of the iceberg:  the 990 report, signed by Jennifer W&#8230;goes on to say &#8220;THE CHAMBER MAINTAINED 459 MEMBERS IN THE TOURISM BUREAU; ASSISTED 449 TRADE PROFESSIONALS; ASSISTED 130 MEETING/EVENT PLANNERS; PARTICIPATED IN 6 TRAVEL TRADE SHOWS AND, IN CONJUNCTION WITH AZ OFFICE OF TOURISM, SALES MISSIONS TO LOS ANGELES AND LAS VEGAS.  VISITATION TO WEBSITE BY 1.2 MILLION VISITORS; IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHERS PROMOTED LOCAL EVENTS, RAN NUMEROUS ADVERTISEMENTS, &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and on and on&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.NO Where does this legal report mention 1000 members.  The report does state that their VISITOR CENTER ASSISTED 346,00 WALK-IN VISITORS (which would equate to some average of 900 a day?) and then she would like us to believe that a few lines down when she states that: &#8220;THE CHAMBER STRIVED TO INCREASE THE AWARENESS AND PARTICIPATION OF ITS 980 MEMBERS IN CHAMBER PROGRAMS&#8230;..    Well I&#8217;m just tired of quoting and oh so tired of trying to get the Chambers numbers of members to equal the 1000 Jennifer keeps quoting to the City Council. </p>
<p>So my intelligent friends &#8211; I&#8217;ve given you what I received&#8230;sure as hell hope you appreciate the duplicity and self promotions expressed by Steve Segner to Sandy Moriarty who wants to be Mayor &#8211;  at the expense of all us &#8220;flatlanders&#8221;.</p>
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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J. Rick Normand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2014 23:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Having read the campaign brochure of Jon Thompson, which he left at my front door, it took me no time at all to recognize that he is sympathetic to the organized Sedona socialist cabal of Jessica Williamson, Barbara Litrell, Angela LeFevre, and Sandy Moriarty. And, of course, never forget that the hallmark of a socialist in office is that he or she believes that his/her own politico/economic belief-system is morally and practically superior to the will of the majority… even if they know nothing of the discipline of economics. Therefore, they never listen to the public once in office. For that reason, I can also assure all you readers that the aforementioned socialists do not believe in the process of competitive bidding for outsourced local government services. Yes, socialists probably will control the City Council after the next election which will ensure ever-increasing city debt and corrupt award of outsourced contracts which always results in questionable distribution of treasury funds (you all know what I mean by politely stating the point this way). Isn’t it just amazing that our little resort town of 9,800 has a yearly budget that rivals far larger and more successful resort towns who competitively bid out all their outsourced services and, therefore, due to their reputations for integrity in governance, can attract private sector benefactors who will contribute huge dollar amounts to joint private/public civic improvement projects? My last sentence is correlative to the fact that Sedona, with the exception of Georgia Frontiere (and Sedona ran her out of town), has never been able to entertain the investment interests of such benefactors as have the City of Palm Desert or the Colorado west slope towns known so well to all of us. Nevertheless, the next Council, after this next probable socialist Council, will find that it won’t have to listen to the will of the people either, because the US and state economies will dictate ALL financial decisions to them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read the campaign brochure of Jon Thompson, which he left at my front door, it took me no time at all to recognize that he is sympathetic to the organized Sedona socialist cabal of Jessica Williamson, Barbara Litrell, Angela LeFevre, and Sandy Moriarty. And, of course, never forget that the hallmark of a socialist in office is that he or she believes that his/her own politico/economic belief-system is morally and practically superior to the will of the majority… even if they know nothing of the discipline of economics. Therefore, they never listen to the public once in office. For that reason, I can also assure all you readers that the aforementioned socialists do not believe in the process of competitive bidding for outsourced local government services. Yes, socialists probably will control the City Council after the next election which will ensure ever-increasing city debt and corrupt award of outsourced contracts which always results in questionable distribution of treasury funds (you all know what I mean by politely stating the point this way). Isn’t it just amazing that our little resort town of 9,800 has a yearly budget that rivals far larger and more successful resort towns who competitively bid out all their outsourced services and, therefore, due to their reputations for integrity in governance, can attract private sector benefactors who will contribute huge dollar amounts to joint private/public civic improvement projects? My last sentence is correlative to the fact that Sedona, with the exception of Georgia Frontiere (and Sedona ran her out of town), has never been able to entertain the investment interests of such benefactors as have the City of Palm Desert or the Colorado west slope towns known so well to all of us. Nevertheless, the next Council, after this next probable socialist Council, will find that it won’t have to listen to the will of the people either, because the US and state economies will dictate ALL financial decisions to them.</p>
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		By: Steve E.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve E.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey you silly Naysayers. Look at it this way. Based on Jessica Williamson&#039;s openly displayed objection to the &quot;Moment of Silence&quot; and most recently the word &quot;God&quot; on the plaques at the Veteran&#039;s Memorial, one of the top priorities of this Quorum from Hell might just be to do away with the MOS and then figure out strategy to remove &quot;God&quot; from Sedona. 

Now that&#039;s a good one. Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny have already been put to rest due to their non-politically correct status.

Chamber of Commerce, heads-up. A new way to spend City of Sedona free money to market all of your non-taxpaying members:

&quot;Spend a week or two in Beautiful, Spiritual Sedona that has recently Gone Godless.&quot; 

Good Lord (oops - erase that). What a catchy phrase. Quorum from Hell, are you listening?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey you silly Naysayers. Look at it this way. Based on Jessica Williamson&#8217;s openly displayed objection to the &#8220;Moment of Silence&#8221; and most recently the word &#8220;God&#8221; on the plaques at the Veteran&#8217;s Memorial, one of the top priorities of this Quorum from Hell might just be to do away with the MOS and then figure out strategy to remove &#8220;God&#8221; from Sedona. </p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s a good one. Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny have already been put to rest due to their non-politically correct status.</p>
<p>Chamber of Commerce, heads-up. A new way to spend City of Sedona free money to market all of your non-taxpaying members:</p>
<p>&#8220;Spend a week or two in Beautiful, Spiritual Sedona that has recently Gone Godless.&#8221; </p>
<p>Good Lord (oops &#8211; erase that). What a catchy phrase. Quorum from Hell, are you listening?</p>
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		By: Jim uptown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim uptown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jean: 

Hear, Hear............Loud &#038; Clear!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean: </p>
<p>Hear, Hear&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Loud &amp; Clear!</p>
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		By: Jean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my opinion, Mark DiNunzio&#039;s name belongs in the quorum from Hell.

    &quot;...for visitors Sedona is more than the City limits.&quot;

    &quot;We have a history with the Chamber marketing Sedona.&quot;

These mind-bogglers came from an email of Mark&#039;s I received upon objecting to the handout of millions in taxpayer funds to the so-called Sedona Chamber of Commerce (sans competitive bidding to boot), as well as the additional squandering of taxpayer $$$$ on numerous businesses in Flagstaff and the Verde Valley area.  

I plan to vote &quot;NO&quot; on Home Rule and feel disincorporation will be forced upon Sedona property owners over time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, Mark DiNunzio&#8217;s name belongs in the quorum from Hell.</p>
<p>    &#8220;&#8230;for visitors Sedona is more than the City limits.&#8221;</p>
<p>    &#8220;We have a history with the Chamber marketing Sedona.&#8221;</p>
<p>These mind-bogglers came from an email of Mark&#8217;s I received upon objecting to the handout of millions in taxpayer funds to the so-called Sedona Chamber of Commerce (sans competitive bidding to boot), as well as the additional squandering of taxpayer $$$$ on numerous businesses in Flagstaff and the Verde Valley area.  </p>
<p>I plan to vote &#8220;NO&#8221; on Home Rule and feel disincorporation will be forced upon Sedona property owners over time.</p>
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		By: Marty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Just A Thought&quot; translates to &quot;Worse Case Scenario&quot; equals = NIGHTMARE!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just A Thought&#8221; translates to &#8220;Worse Case Scenario&#8221; equals = NIGHTMARE!</p>
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		By: JUST A THOUGHT		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JUST A THOUGHT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 23:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Four  members constitutes a quorum on the Sedona City Council (enough to enact legislation). Something to think about:

Jessica Williamson, Sandy Moriarty, Angela LeFevre, (&quot;Blank&quot;).

Fill in the (Blank) to complete the quorum from Hell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four  members constitutes a quorum on the Sedona City Council (enough to enact legislation). Something to think about:</p>
<p>Jessica Williamson, Sandy Moriarty, Angela LeFevre, (&#8220;Blank&#8221;).</p>
<p>Fill in the (Blank) to complete the quorum from Hell.</p>
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		By: Jerry, Sedona City Limits		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerry, Sedona City Limits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yahoo, Michele!   I dig your style and choice of words. Thank you very much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo, Michele!   I dig your style and choice of words. Thank you very much.</p>
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		By: Michele		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 03:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will vote for Cliff Hamilton, a decent man. I won&#039;t vote for Sandy who is rude, abrasive and not very bright. I saw one of her signs and decided I wouldn&#039;t like the person with it in their yard. Angela is vulgar. I doubt she would know art if it dropped from heaven, never-mind she&#039;s an atheist and despises religion. 

Avoid the women cause they make us look like stereotypes. We could have used a few decent women candidates instead of this batch. Bring back Pud Colquitt. At least she had backbone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will vote for Cliff Hamilton, a decent man. I won&#8217;t vote for Sandy who is rude, abrasive and not very bright. I saw one of her signs and decided I wouldn&#8217;t like the person with it in their yard. Angela is vulgar. I doubt she would know art if it dropped from heaven, never-mind she&#8217;s an atheist and despises religion. </p>
<p>Avoid the women cause they make us look like stereotypes. We could have used a few decent women candidates instead of this batch. Bring back Pud Colquitt. At least she had backbone.</p>
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