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		By: Donna Joy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donna Joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Senior center and meals on wheels were there before home rule and will be here after home rule.  

I am voting No on home Rule.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senior center and meals on wheels were there before home rule and will be here after home rule.  </p>
<p>I am voting No on home Rule.</p>
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		By: Donald W.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Joe T for using the words: &quot;entitlements, entitlements, entitlements ...&quot;

It&#039;s possible that no truer words have been used on this web site. It&#039;s a rare event when beneficiaries dare to be so bold as to call it like it is. Beautiful!!

Vote Yes to Home Rule and Keep the Gravy Boat afloat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joe T for using the words: &#8220;entitlements, entitlements, entitlements &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that no truer words have been used on this web site. It&#8217;s a rare event when beneficiaries dare to be so bold as to call it like it is. Beautiful!!</p>
<p>Vote Yes to Home Rule and Keep the Gravy Boat afloat.</p>
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		By: Joe T		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Charles as you&#039;ve read now and before... Their are alot of complainers and government haters who post here..

You sound sincer and am sure people on this site would love to say to u entitlements entitlements entitlements...

Never would I vote  No to home rule ..never..  If  everything that the city spends had to get voted on by the  regular posters on this site nothing would get approved and what a long drawn out process that would be..

In other words the funding for your senior center or anything else the city funds that you find useful would not exist 

Voting Yes to Home Rule...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles as you&#8217;ve read now and before&#8230; Their are alot of complainers and government haters who post here..</p>
<p>You sound sincer and am sure people on this site would love to say to u entitlements entitlements entitlements&#8230;</p>
<p>Never would I vote  No to home rule ..never..  If  everything that the city spends had to get voted on by the  regular posters on this site nothing would get approved and what a long drawn out process that would be..</p>
<p>In other words the funding for your senior center or anything else the city funds that you find useful would not exist </p>
<p>Voting Yes to Home Rule&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mary S.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 03:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Charles Allen, your comment makes me feel very sad. It&#039;s doubtful that people are hostile towards the elderly or puppies or kitties. In fact, your accusation of trash talk really has no more substance other than it being only your opinion. When it&#039;s of record that there is no dedicated funding for common amenities such as drainage, sidewalks, and other safety measures which most municipalities consider top priority, it becomes important for people to take note. When our voices are no longer heard, when special interests prevail over necessities to benefit the quality of all our lives, including yours, Mr. Allen, there appears to be bad judgment which can only be rectified by using legal methods such as the opportunity to vote on Home Rule.

Do you really believe those objecting to poor financial planning are out to get you or anyone else personally? May I suggest you take your complaint to Jennifer Wesselhoff at the Chamber of Commerce since it appears that she has absolutely more clout at City Hall than the handful of people you claim to be trash-talking on this web site.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Charles Allen, your comment makes me feel very sad. It&#8217;s doubtful that people are hostile towards the elderly or puppies or kitties. In fact, your accusation of trash talk really has no more substance other than it being only your opinion. When it&#8217;s of record that there is no dedicated funding for common amenities such as drainage, sidewalks, and other safety measures which most municipalities consider top priority, it becomes important for people to take note. When our voices are no longer heard, when special interests prevail over necessities to benefit the quality of all our lives, including yours, Mr. Allen, there appears to be bad judgment which can only be rectified by using legal methods such as the opportunity to vote on Home Rule.</p>
<p>Do you really believe those objecting to poor financial planning are out to get you or anyone else personally? May I suggest you take your complaint to Jennifer Wesselhoff at the Chamber of Commerce since it appears that she has absolutely more clout at City Hall than the handful of people you claim to be trash-talking on this web site.</p>
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		By: Sedona Community Org		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sedona Community Org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 02:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice to hear from you Mr Charles Allen. 

There are many non-profits that support our aging community. They have done so before Sedona was incorporated. Many of businesses also support  these groups.  I do like @facts idea to go back to basics. Community Fundraisers. I love building community through volunteerism as it brings people together.

This would actually help you Mr. Charles Allen. It  removes conflicts of interest from the equation. Takes all the smoke and mirrors out the presentations.  It enables the community to grow in a positive manner by doing this. 

Sedona has many non-profits who staff gets paid high salaries.They are really special interest groups. Those are the ones claiming they do everything and deserve all the money. I never heard one person ever say to stop Meals on Wheels or the adult center. By the special interest groups raising taxes so they can get more money  it creates a burden on Sedona  businesses. Then they have less to give to groups like yours Mr. Allen. You do have the support of locals and businesses.

Since our city has been routinely  funding non-profits like the film festival and Chamber, who are simply serving their members, is has created a storm of other non-profits to appear and request money. Many are now being funded by the city such as main street and the arts community. They do not bring revenue to the city of Sedona.

Enough money has been gifted, it is time to let those groups get their own funding. It is time for the community of locals and businesses to work together as a team to build community without city funding.  

We have a few true non-profits that are based 100% volunteerism  like Sedona Community Organization. Zero funding from city. They are all sponsors and volunteers. 

Your Senior center will have more not less when the city stop funding memberships, clubs and special interests.  The city should review each group with the same integrity as they did the Human Society.  Every penny should be audited, every person getting a benefit should be counted by the city.  If they did this they would gain respect from all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to hear from you Mr Charles Allen. </p>
<p>There are many non-profits that support our aging community. They have done so before Sedona was incorporated. Many of businesses also support  these groups.  I do like @facts idea to go back to basics. Community Fundraisers. I love building community through volunteerism as it brings people together.</p>
<p>This would actually help you Mr. Charles Allen. It  removes conflicts of interest from the equation. Takes all the smoke and mirrors out the presentations.  It enables the community to grow in a positive manner by doing this. </p>
<p>Sedona has many non-profits who staff gets paid high salaries.They are really special interest groups. Those are the ones claiming they do everything and deserve all the money. I never heard one person ever say to stop Meals on Wheels or the adult center. By the special interest groups raising taxes so they can get more money  it creates a burden on Sedona  businesses. Then they have less to give to groups like yours Mr. Allen. You do have the support of locals and businesses.</p>
<p>Since our city has been routinely  funding non-profits like the film festival and Chamber, who are simply serving their members, is has created a storm of other non-profits to appear and request money. Many are now being funded by the city such as main street and the arts community. They do not bring revenue to the city of Sedona.</p>
<p>Enough money has been gifted, it is time to let those groups get their own funding. It is time for the community of locals and businesses to work together as a team to build community without city funding.  </p>
<p>We have a few true non-profits that are based 100% volunteerism  like Sedona Community Organization. Zero funding from city. They are all sponsors and volunteers. </p>
<p>Your Senior center will have more not less when the city stop funding memberships, clubs and special interests.  The city should review each group with the same integrity as they did the Human Society.  Every penny should be audited, every person getting a benefit should be counted by the city.  If they did this they would gain respect from all.</p>
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		By: Mr Charles Allen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Charles Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2014 22:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@fact.

You were quick to chastise Just Sayin about not using his/her real name, I&#039;m guessing that you must have forgotten to use yours as well. 

I&#039;m a very retired and tired older resident in this city who has stood by reading the crap posted by so many people. It&#039;s time for me to say that I agree with Just Sayin&#039;. What a waste of energy and money if that 9 million were to just sit while I loose access to my senior center because of some jerks twisted fun. 

Those of you, like @Fact aren&#039;t the ones being effected by all of this trash talk. You all talked trash about the puppys and kittens when the humane society sent me that twisted email and it only took a week for them to come to their senses. What will happen to us Seniors when the Meals on Wheels and other services are shut down. I&#039;m guessing that you&#039;d rather save the kittens and pups instead of doing the same with your grandma&#039;s and grandpops. 

And, yes this IS my real name.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fact.</p>
<p>You were quick to chastise Just Sayin about not using his/her real name, I&#8217;m guessing that you must have forgotten to use yours as well. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a very retired and tired older resident in this city who has stood by reading the crap posted by so many people. It&#8217;s time for me to say that I agree with Just Sayin&#8217;. What a waste of energy and money if that 9 million were to just sit while I loose access to my senior center because of some jerks twisted fun. </p>
<p>Those of you, like @Fact aren&#8217;t the ones being effected by all of this trash talk. You all talked trash about the puppys and kittens when the humane society sent me that twisted email and it only took a week for them to come to their senses. What will happen to us Seniors when the Meals on Wheels and other services are shut down. I&#8217;m guessing that you&#8217;d rather save the kittens and pups instead of doing the same with your grandma&#8217;s and grandpops. </p>
<p>And, yes this IS my real name.</p>
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		By: Fact		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fact]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you @ just Sayin&#039; You bring up a great point.  Fundraisers will be a great way of building community. So all those will their hands out can learn how to create their own income, Brilliant! 

The city did perfectly fine before they got home rule in, They went down the tube with extra cash to spend. They need to get focus do their jobs. The city has proven they do not know how to handle the money. It is worse. 

As far as getting in property taxes, the registered voters have to VOTE that in. Fat chance. In fact some of the city volunteers are coming out with numbers that PROVE residents contribute MORE than you city employees and special interest groups promote. Think about it. It is NOT the tourists that create the sales tax and bed tax, it your BUSINESSES.  Your residents also contribute much more than you want anyone to know.   

Now back to your Blah Blah Blah the sky is falling, property tax, no services and the residence don&#039;t matter. Just remember who owns 89A and its NOT the City. 

Now if you like to impress me try using your real name, otherwise blah blah blah

I am voting NO on rule.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you @ just Sayin&#8217; You bring up a great point.  Fundraisers will be a great way of building community. So all those will their hands out can learn how to create their own income, Brilliant! </p>
<p>The city did perfectly fine before they got home rule in, They went down the tube with extra cash to spend. They need to get focus do their jobs. The city has proven they do not know how to handle the money. It is worse. </p>
<p>As far as getting in property taxes, the registered voters have to VOTE that in. Fat chance. In fact some of the city volunteers are coming out with numbers that PROVE residents contribute MORE than you city employees and special interest groups promote. Think about it. It is NOT the tourists that create the sales tax and bed tax, it your BUSINESSES.  Your residents also contribute much more than you want anyone to know.   </p>
<p>Now back to your Blah Blah Blah the sky is falling, property tax, no services and the residence don&#8217;t matter. Just remember who owns 89A and its NOT the City. </p>
<p>Now if you like to impress me try using your real name, otherwise blah blah blah</p>
<p>I am voting NO on rule.</p>
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		By: Marsha &#38; Deanella Jones		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marsha &#38; Deanella Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We visited Sedona in 2007 for lunch and a couple of hours walking around on our bus trip. We have lots of pictures of your pretty red hills. It is sad that the fire destroyed one of your prettiest areas. Come to Oregon and visit. We have no sales tax.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We visited Sedona in 2007 for lunch and a couple of hours walking around on our bus trip. We have lots of pictures of your pretty red hills. It is sad that the fire destroyed one of your prettiest areas. Come to Oregon and visit. We have no sales tax.</p>
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		By: Joanne, VOC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joanne, VOC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a silent business owner and resident of VOC I applaud Dick&#039;s comment and thank you Sir for saying what many of us know and dislike about the chamber; we are considering our own Sedona chamber instead.

Are you aware that a second jewelry store is closing its VOC doors? First one was in the IGA center and now one in the outlets?  That organic vegan restaurant in the VOC Tequa (Love?) closed its doors within a couple of months because of NO BUSINESS. (We were told that there were days that no one showed up at the place to eat.)  Mongo&#039;s is feeling the pinch and how long it will last who knows.  The outlets are becoming an eyesore.  Without Joan here to pressure the county to keep everything nice and clean that is a big loss.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a silent business owner and resident of VOC I applaud Dick&#8217;s comment and thank you Sir for saying what many of us know and dislike about the chamber; we are considering our own Sedona chamber instead.</p>
<p>Are you aware that a second jewelry store is closing its VOC doors? First one was in the IGA center and now one in the outlets?  That organic vegan restaurant in the VOC Tequa (Love?) closed its doors within a couple of months because of NO BUSINESS. (We were told that there were days that no one showed up at the place to eat.)  Mongo&#8217;s is feeling the pinch and how long it will last who knows.  The outlets are becoming an eyesore.  Without Joan here to pressure the county to keep everything nice and clean that is a big loss.</p>
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		By: James Harrington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Harrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Message to Just Sayin&#039; ---  Yep, you read me and &quot;a bushel of others&quot; clearly (although I do not speak for them.)

 As quoted by Assistant City Manager Karen Daines in the above article: “Projects without dedicated revenue streams, including most sidewalk, drainage, and public safety projects, must all compete for a finite amount of General Fund resources.” 

Unless and until this city deems it essential to provide earmarked funds for the basic infrastructure needs to maintain a safe city for residents, businesses, and tourists, is it good judgment to FIRST allocate it to non-profits? And those that existed prior to incorporation functioned very nicely in spite of the inconvenience of not having city government from which to  procure funding for their causes. Of course all non-profits represent useful causes, even the Chamber of Commerce when it isn&#039;t allowed to run amok and take over city government.

If forcing 9 million dollars to sit in a holding tank for the next four years will teach our &quot;leaders&quot; we don&#039;t appreciate them frittering away OUR tax dollars, which according to a recent report we resident taxpayers contribute more than 50%  then so be it. 

Not unlike Johnny when he misbehaves and is forced to take a &quot;time out&quot; or &quot;sit in the corner&quot; our city needs to be taught a lesson relating to the concept of appropriate prioritization.

My vote will be &quot;NO&quot; for HOME RULE allowing you the pleasure to cancel it by voting &quot;YES.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Message to Just Sayin&#8217; &#8212;  Yep, you read me and &#8220;a bushel of others&#8221; clearly (although I do not speak for them.)</p>
<p> As quoted by Assistant City Manager Karen Daines in the above article: “Projects without dedicated revenue streams, including most sidewalk, drainage, and public safety projects, must all compete for a finite amount of General Fund resources.” </p>
<p>Unless and until this city deems it essential to provide earmarked funds for the basic infrastructure needs to maintain a safe city for residents, businesses, and tourists, is it good judgment to FIRST allocate it to non-profits? And those that existed prior to incorporation functioned very nicely in spite of the inconvenience of not having city government from which to  procure funding for their causes. Of course all non-profits represent useful causes, even the Chamber of Commerce when it isn&#8217;t allowed to run amok and take over city government.</p>
<p>If forcing 9 million dollars to sit in a holding tank for the next four years will teach our &#8220;leaders&#8221; we don&#8217;t appreciate them frittering away OUR tax dollars, which according to a recent report we resident taxpayers contribute more than 50%  then so be it. </p>
<p>Not unlike Johnny when he misbehaves and is forced to take a &#8220;time out&#8221; or &#8220;sit in the corner&#8221; our city needs to be taught a lesson relating to the concept of appropriate prioritization.</p>
<p>My vote will be &#8220;NO&#8221; for HOME RULE allowing you the pleasure to cancel it by voting &#8220;YES.&#8221;</p>
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