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		By: N. Baer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@P Seely - Do not equate natural radio frequency which surrounds us with man made frequencies that are emitted by two way communication devices that compose the &quot;smart&quot; grid. Make no mistake about it, &quot;microwave sickness&quot; was discovered in 1932 by the German scientist, Dr. Irwin Shliephake. As is the case in scientific studies, in order for this discovery to stay relevant it has been tested thousands of time. The Electric Power Research Institute is a conglomerate of all interested industry related companies so so much for any research being relevant or valid produced by that arm. There is no federal mandate requiring that the two-way communication devices be wireless and in fact, The Energy Policy Act of 2005 says that consumers who request two-way communication devices should be given them, but it says NOTHING ABOUT THEM BEING WIRELESS. You need to do some research as there are at least 6,000 peer-reviewed studies showing harm and danger from exposure to radio frequencies. In fact, our exposure increased 20,000 fold to this in just one 10 year period. There is no independent scientific study saying that the emissions from smart meters are safe. And, if you still don&#039;t believe it and have done all your own research instead of repeating sound bytes, then be considerate of your neighbors and take the &quot;precautionary principle&quot; which says that you will opt out of having a wireless smart meter until they are proven 100% safe to all biological based life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@P Seely &#8211; Do not equate natural radio frequency which surrounds us with man made frequencies that are emitted by two way communication devices that compose the &#8220;smart&#8221; grid. Make no mistake about it, &#8220;microwave sickness&#8221; was discovered in 1932 by the German scientist, Dr. Irwin Shliephake. As is the case in scientific studies, in order for this discovery to stay relevant it has been tested thousands of time. The Electric Power Research Institute is a conglomerate of all interested industry related companies so so much for any research being relevant or valid produced by that arm. There is no federal mandate requiring that the two-way communication devices be wireless and in fact, The Energy Policy Act of 2005 says that consumers who request two-way communication devices should be given them, but it says NOTHING ABOUT THEM BEING WIRELESS. You need to do some research as there are at least 6,000 peer-reviewed studies showing harm and danger from exposure to radio frequencies. In fact, our exposure increased 20,000 fold to this in just one 10 year period. There is no independent scientific study saying that the emissions from smart meters are safe. And, if you still don&#8217;t believe it and have done all your own research instead of repeating sound bytes, then be considerate of your neighbors and take the &#8220;precautionary principle&#8221; which says that you will opt out of having a wireless smart meter until they are proven 100% safe to all biological based life.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2014 04:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To:  J. Rick Noran &#038; P Seeley
Thanks fellas for bringing a bit of reality to the conversation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To:  J. Rick Noran &amp; P Seeley<br />
Thanks fellas for bringing a bit of reality to the conversation.</p>
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		By: P Seeley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2014 16:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have never seen the likes ot this scare campaign, which was in fact begun by a Teamsters local who were protecting meter reader jobs and it mushroomed. People love hysteria and conspiracies. The latest masterful editing job of Northeast Utilities&#039; review of an opt in-opt out program for &quot;smart&quot; meters is quite an artful unfortunately successful job of selecting out words and phrases to make it appear that the utility was not in favor of the installations. Quite the contrary. 

The Electric Power Research Institute program 62 for health and safety has spent many years and millions of dollars investigating health claims and is not shy about telling its utility members what the science actually says. Unfortunately, most of the public never made it into college physics so they don&#039;t really understand how science establishes exposure and what risk is. In fact the electric power industry is far ahead of its counterparts in oil and gas in addressing public and consumer health issues. 

This issue just totally lacks merit. It is simply an issue of dosage quantity, duration and distance. Your digital dishwasher, clock radio, and digital TV and other devices with digital displays are have far higher exposures and are right next to you , on all the time. Radio frequencies are around us all the time--there were scare stories about the unseen and hazardous radio waves in the 1930&#039;s. They are not hazardous either.  If you are really concerned you should be after the city council to prevent business establishments from having WIFI routers in public places, or to eliminate cell phone towers. They are not hazardous either. IN fact Van Allen when asked about his microwave oven said he was prepared to sit on it for 24 hours a day.  I&#039;m with Van Allen. Risk--hazard evaluation--exposure. Not scary stories that are total fiction. Not just because it&#039;s on the internet or in a hyped up movie does it become true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never seen the likes ot this scare campaign, which was in fact begun by a Teamsters local who were protecting meter reader jobs and it mushroomed. People love hysteria and conspiracies. The latest masterful editing job of Northeast Utilities&#8217; review of an opt in-opt out program for &#8220;smart&#8221; meters is quite an artful unfortunately successful job of selecting out words and phrases to make it appear that the utility was not in favor of the installations. Quite the contrary. </p>
<p>The Electric Power Research Institute program 62 for health and safety has spent many years and millions of dollars investigating health claims and is not shy about telling its utility members what the science actually says. Unfortunately, most of the public never made it into college physics so they don&#8217;t really understand how science establishes exposure and what risk is. In fact the electric power industry is far ahead of its counterparts in oil and gas in addressing public and consumer health issues. </p>
<p>This issue just totally lacks merit. It is simply an issue of dosage quantity, duration and distance. Your digital dishwasher, clock radio, and digital TV and other devices with digital displays are have far higher exposures and are right next to you , on all the time. Radio frequencies are around us all the time&#8211;there were scare stories about the unseen and hazardous radio waves in the 1930&#8217;s. They are not hazardous either.  If you are really concerned you should be after the city council to prevent business establishments from having WIFI routers in public places, or to eliminate cell phone towers. They are not hazardous either. IN fact Van Allen when asked about his microwave oven said he was prepared to sit on it for 24 hours a day.  I&#8217;m with Van Allen. Risk&#8211;hazard evaluation&#8211;exposure. Not scary stories that are total fiction. Not just because it&#8217;s on the internet or in a hyped up movie does it become true.</p>
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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2014 01:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Karambir Singh Khalsa

In your comment above you say &quot;We the People need to increase the pressure on all parties involved; the Sedona City Council, APS, and the ACC.” These are NOT all the parties involved by any means. In fact, they&#039;re not even at the top of the list. If you really want to pressure those who are ultimately responsible for the &quot;&#039;Smart Grid&quot; agenda, which includes as a chief component known  the &quot;Smart Meter,&quot; you need to put the pressure on your Senators and Congressional Representatives as you will realize as you read on...

The opening paragraph from the current website of the U.S. Department of Energy states:

President Obama has announced the largest single grid modernization investment in U.S. history, funding a broad range of technologies to spur the nation’s transition to a smarter, stronger, more efficient and reliable electric system. This will promote energy-saving choices for consumers, increase energy efficiency, and foster the growth of renewable energy sources like wind and solar power. The $3.4 billion in investments are part of the President Obama&#039;s American &quot;Reinvestment and Recovery Act,&quot; and will be matched by industry funding for a total public-private investment worth over $8 billion [initially].

The L.A Times, in an article dated June 18, 2013, entitled “Obama Nourishes Smart Grid And Feeds His Legacy,” stated that &quot;President Obama is the biggest proponent, arguing that the technological development will mitigate the effects of climate change, create more efficiencies within the grid and allow additional green electrons to cross those wires.&quot;

In Future Tense magazine, a partnership of Slate, New America, and Arizona State University, it is stated that in their March 19, 2012 issue that &quot;...in early March 2012, at a meeting for the CIA’s venture capital firm In-Q-Tel, CIA Director David Petraeus reportedly noted that &#039;smart appliances&#039; connected to the Internet could someday be used by the CIA to track individuals.&quot; If your grocery-list-generating refrigerator knows when you’re home, the CIA could, too, by using geo-location data from your wired appliances, according to SmartPlanet.

Furthermore, found on the White House website under a heading entitled, “Realizing the Full Potential of Government Held Spectrum to Spur Economic Growth, President’s Council of Advisors on Science Technology (20 July 2012)&quot; is a transcript of an interview with Barrie Trower, one of the President’s Council Advisers, who is a world-wide recognized military intelligence expert, who mentions casually that “…one of the ideas behind the Smart Meter is where they put them on everybody’s homes…They can watch every single person in that house.”

The U.S. Department of Energy Smart Grid agenda has much more to do with Smart Grid population monitoring motives other than just energy efficiency and modernization. Moreover, they have dictated to almost every energy utility and their regulatory overseers throughout the U.S. that they want the Smart Grid, and therefore Smart Meter, policy implemented. The American people need to understand that the Fed&#039;s are dictating policy to the states and their locally domiciled utilities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karambir Singh Khalsa</p>
<p>In your comment above you say &#8220;We the People need to increase the pressure on all parties involved; the Sedona City Council, APS, and the ACC.” These are NOT all the parties involved by any means. In fact, they&#8217;re not even at the top of the list. If you really want to pressure those who are ultimately responsible for the &#8220;&#8216;Smart Grid&#8221; agenda, which includes as a chief component known  the &#8220;Smart Meter,&#8221; you need to put the pressure on your Senators and Congressional Representatives as you will realize as you read on&#8230;</p>
<p>The opening paragraph from the current website of the U.S. Department of Energy states:</p>
<p>President Obama has announced the largest single grid modernization investment in U.S. history, funding a broad range of technologies to spur the nation’s transition to a smarter, stronger, more efficient and reliable electric system. This will promote energy-saving choices for consumers, increase energy efficiency, and foster the growth of renewable energy sources like wind and solar power. The $3.4 billion in investments are part of the President Obama&#8217;s American &#8220;Reinvestment and Recovery Act,&#8221; and will be matched by industry funding for a total public-private investment worth over $8 billion [initially].</p>
<p>The L.A Times, in an article dated June 18, 2013, entitled “Obama Nourishes Smart Grid And Feeds His Legacy,” stated that &#8220;President Obama is the biggest proponent, arguing that the technological development will mitigate the effects of climate change, create more efficiencies within the grid and allow additional green electrons to cross those wires.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Future Tense magazine, a partnership of Slate, New America, and Arizona State University, it is stated that in their March 19, 2012 issue that &#8220;&#8230;in early March 2012, at a meeting for the CIA’s venture capital firm In-Q-Tel, CIA Director David Petraeus reportedly noted that &#8216;smart appliances&#8217; connected to the Internet could someday be used by the CIA to track individuals.&#8221; If your grocery-list-generating refrigerator knows when you’re home, the CIA could, too, by using geo-location data from your wired appliances, according to SmartPlanet.</p>
<p>Furthermore, found on the White House website under a heading entitled, “Realizing the Full Potential of Government Held Spectrum to Spur Economic Growth, President’s Council of Advisors on Science Technology (20 July 2012)&#8221; is a transcript of an interview with Barrie Trower, one of the President’s Council Advisers, who is a world-wide recognized military intelligence expert, who mentions casually that “…one of the ideas behind the Smart Meter is where they put them on everybody’s homes…They can watch every single person in that house.”</p>
<p>The U.S. Department of Energy Smart Grid agenda has much more to do with Smart Grid population monitoring motives other than just energy efficiency and modernization. Moreover, they have dictated to almost every energy utility and their regulatory overseers throughout the U.S. that they want the Smart Grid, and therefore Smart Meter, policy implemented. The American people need to understand that the Fed&#8217;s are dictating policy to the states and their locally domiciled utilities.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: N. Baer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Henry Twombly - Thank you for reminding people to contact our counselors to let them know we do not want our community exposed to microwave radiation. Just as an fyi before any litigation can be pursued all administrative remedies must be exhausted.Two other important steps to take; 1) Be sure to write to APS to &quot;opt out&quot; (see our websitehttp://www.sedonasmartmeterawareness.com/WHAT-CAN-I-DO-.html)  Also, if you haven&#039;t signed our petition, please do so and share the petition http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-smart-meters-in-sedona-arizona.html.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Henry Twombly &#8211; Thank you for reminding people to contact our counselors to let them know we do not want our community exposed to microwave radiation. Just as an fyi before any litigation can be pursued all administrative remedies must be exhausted.Two other important steps to take; 1) Be sure to write to APS to &#8220;opt out&#8221; (see our websitehttp://www.sedonasmartmeterawareness.com/WHAT-CAN-I-DO-.html)  Also, if you haven&#8217;t signed our petition, please do so and share the petition <a href="http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-smart-meters-in-sedona-arizona.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-smart-meters-in-sedona-arizona.html</a>.</p>
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		By: J. Rick Normand		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Henry:

  The Independent Adviser you&#039;ve mentioned was, in fact, our own City Attorney Mike Goimarac.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry:</p>
<p>  The Independent Adviser you&#8217;ve mentioned was, in fact, our own City Attorney Mike Goimarac.</p>
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		By: Karambir Singh Khalsa		</title>
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