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		By: Helen		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/city-department-changes-name-and-economic-development-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-27127</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 05:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dorothy, Steve and Claudine Moore.  How do you find it warranted and correct to completely change the direction of this blog with your wants of the school district vote?   good try but no banana. 

Since you have chosen to do so - Would you all provide us with a substantial reason to vote yes?  So far its just smoke and mirrors and motherhood and apple pie.. and no bennies to any tax payer as there is no business or scores raised accountability coming from the school district.

Please - how about either sticking on track or giving hard facts!

Please give us some factual information vs verbage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorothy, Steve and Claudine Moore.  How do you find it warranted and correct to completely change the direction of this blog with your wants of the school district vote?   good try but no banana. </p>
<p>Since you have chosen to do so &#8211; Would you all provide us with a substantial reason to vote yes?  So far its just smoke and mirrors and motherhood and apple pie.. and no bennies to any tax payer as there is no business or scores raised accountability coming from the school district.</p>
<p>Please &#8211; how about either sticking on track or giving hard facts!</p>
<p>Please give us some factual information vs verbage.</p>
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		By: Dorothy		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/city-department-changes-name-and-economic-development-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-27119</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dorothy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Conspiracy nut? Vote yes on override.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conspiracy nut? Vote yes on override.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 16:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes on the override is agenda 21?  whose a conspiracy nut?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes on the override is agenda 21?  whose a conspiracy nut?</p>
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		By: Claudine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claudine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 05:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Add smart meters to the agenda 21 and voting yes on Education Override.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add smart meters to the agenda 21 and voting yes on Education Override.</p>
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		By: Helen		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/city-department-changes-name-and-economic-development-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-26882</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2013 01:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen!  sounds just like this Council...we&#039;ve lost rights and are told we don&#039;t think correctly and need to be &quot;Educated&quot; as though we have no brains.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen!  sounds just like this Council&#8230;we&#8217;ve lost rights and are told we don&#8217;t think correctly and need to be &#8220;Educated&#8221; as though we have no brains.</p>
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		By: AGENDA 21 Basics		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AGENDA 21 Basics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Basically Agenda 21 means you are going to lose all your rights and be told how and when to think, act and live. Using buzzwords like sustainable and development.

http://www.america2050.org/

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically Agenda 21 means you are going to lose all your rights and be told how and when to think, act and live. Using buzzwords like sustainable and development.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.america2050.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.america2050.org/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf</a></p>
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		By: Helen		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/city-department-changes-name-and-economic-development-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-26775</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2013 00:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Mrs. Thomas:  I do ask you to please remember that there are 7 elected council members who hire the City Manager.   It really is Council who sets the priorities that the City Manager and staff are required to work from.   It is Council that votes on the city budget (after they add or subtract items and costs from it).  It is Council who approve Ordnances and Resolutions, forms or disbands Commissions and the list goes on regarding their &quot;legislative&quot; abilities that the City Manager nor any member of Staff have!  And so the buck actually does stop with the Council!  

Actually, Council does have complete oversight over the city...vs a staff driven takeover of Non elected staff people with no vested interest other than a paycheck and a career (let me not forget to mention my  respect for their professionalism and dedication to their jobs - and where the majority of them live outside the city limits).  

Council can either Micro or Macro manage - depending upon any given issue.  So yes, Staff does run the city ------ at Councils discretion!

Your concept that Staff are the (highly paid) &quot;professions&quot; vs the very underpaid  &quot;Elected&quot; amuses me greatly.  That&#039;s been a power play since city manager Mike Letcher was here....i.e.: the elected know nothing (even though a majority of the voters elected them) so lets just give them 5 minutes of their glory....as the real people in charge get the job done.  

In my opinion, what you, Mrs Thomas, fail to realize is that each and every City Manager has always been allowed to do his job....until he could no longer do it to benefit our City. 

One of the biggest losses in this city is two fold: 1) too darn many Councils who have little to no respect for the hard working business&#039;s and 2) a moral commitment to the fulfilling the basic needs of our citizens vs their own personal ego driven wants.

Perhaps Mr. Snyder, in his new co-role as Economic Director (at half price) will be able to re-educate our Council as to the benefits of treating State agency&#039;s, business owners, project developers, etc. with some level of respect when it comes to Economic Development? 

Still wondering if the P&#038;Z Commish&#039;s will get to vote on any new economic development issues?  Perhaps you know the answer Mrs Thomas? 

Opps!  Almost forgot about your last sentence where you said everyone here wants the best services without paying for them???  Well, dear Mrs. Thomas - are you kidding me?  We all pay sales taxes, we all pay state and county taxes, school and fire district taxes and etc.... and lest we forget?....we, who are on sewer, are paying more for that cuz the city keeps moving funds away from upgrading the plant and now I&#039;ve said enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mrs. Thomas:  I do ask you to please remember that there are 7 elected council members who hire the City Manager.   It really is Council who sets the priorities that the City Manager and staff are required to work from.   It is Council that votes on the city budget (after they add or subtract items and costs from it).  It is Council who approve Ordnances and Resolutions, forms or disbands Commissions and the list goes on regarding their &#8220;legislative&#8221; abilities that the City Manager nor any member of Staff have!  And so the buck actually does stop with the Council!  </p>
<p>Actually, Council does have complete oversight over the city&#8230;vs a staff driven takeover of Non elected staff people with no vested interest other than a paycheck and a career (let me not forget to mention my  respect for their professionalism and dedication to their jobs &#8211; and where the majority of them live outside the city limits).  </p>
<p>Council can either Micro or Macro manage &#8211; depending upon any given issue.  So yes, Staff does run the city &#8212;&#8212; at Councils discretion!</p>
<p>Your concept that Staff are the (highly paid) &#8220;professions&#8221; vs the very underpaid  &#8220;Elected&#8221; amuses me greatly.  That&#8217;s been a power play since city manager Mike Letcher was here&#8230;.i.e.: the elected know nothing (even though a majority of the voters elected them) so lets just give them 5 minutes of their glory&#8230;.as the real people in charge get the job done.  </p>
<p>In my opinion, what you, Mrs Thomas, fail to realize is that each and every City Manager has always been allowed to do his job&#8230;.until he could no longer do it to benefit our City. </p>
<p>One of the biggest losses in this city is two fold: 1) too darn many Councils who have little to no respect for the hard working business&#8217;s and 2) a moral commitment to the fulfilling the basic needs of our citizens vs their own personal ego driven wants.</p>
<p>Perhaps Mr. Snyder, in his new co-role as Economic Director (at half price) will be able to re-educate our Council as to the benefits of treating State agency&#8217;s, business owners, project developers, etc. with some level of respect when it comes to Economic Development? </p>
<p>Still wondering if the P&amp;Z Commish&#8217;s will get to vote on any new economic development issues?  Perhaps you know the answer Mrs Thomas? </p>
<p>Opps!  Almost forgot about your last sentence where you said everyone here wants the best services without paying for them???  Well, dear Mrs. Thomas &#8211; are you kidding me?  We all pay sales taxes, we all pay state and county taxes, school and fire district taxes and etc&#8230;. and lest we forget?&#8230;.we, who are on sewer, are paying more for that cuz the city keeps moving funds away from upgrading the plant and now I&#8217;ve said enough.</p>
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		By: James Poole		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Poole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 03:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Humm Funny that the City of Sedona would go this direction. They have a REAL attitude towards the businesses in Sedona and it is not nice!  

Who would want to do business in Sedona? Foolish. Start your businesses in VOC you get more benefits. Especially all the FREE advertising the City pays for. They spend more on advertising NON City then city. A great deal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humm Funny that the City of Sedona would go this direction. They have a REAL attitude towards the businesses in Sedona and it is not nice!  </p>
<p>Who would want to do business in Sedona? Foolish. Start your businesses in VOC you get more benefits. Especially all the FREE advertising the City pays for. They spend more on advertising NON City then city. A great deal.</p>
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		By: helen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[helen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 03:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[so - please let us know what AGENDA 21 is???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so &#8211; please let us know what AGENDA 21 is???</p>
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		By: AGENDA 21		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AGENDA 21]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 15:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Smells like AGENDA 21 in progress]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smells like AGENDA 21 in progress</p>
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