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		By: Corona		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/another-three-story-sedona-hotel-for-voc/comment-page-4/#comment-299749</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corona]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 17:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We can’t afford to cater to tourists. If they come then they can take us as we are. Otherwise they can go Piss and S*** elsewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can’t afford to cater to tourists. If they come then they can take us as we are. Otherwise they can go Piss and S*** elsewhere.</p>
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		By: Money can't buy happiness		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/another-three-story-sedona-hotel-for-voc/comment-page-4/#comment-299740</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Money can't buy happiness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2020 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well said, Real deal. You would think the pandemic would knock some sense into people. This huge hotel is the gateway to &quot;ruining the good life here.&quot; Build it and the homes in the shadow of the huge hotel will be bulldozed for another hotel. And then more, and more. We will be driven out as our little retirement Village becomes one big tourist trap.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Real deal. You would think the pandemic would knock some sense into people. This huge hotel is the gateway to &#8220;ruining the good life here.&#8221; Build it and the homes in the shadow of the huge hotel will be bulldozed for another hotel. And then more, and more. We will be driven out as our little retirement Village becomes one big tourist trap.</p>
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		By: Real deal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real deal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 22:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These people are Airbnb in disguise, selling a lie and false promise for a quick bed and no long term commitment. Ruining the good life here for 30 prices of silver.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people are Airbnb in disguise, selling a lie and false promise for a quick bed and no long term commitment. Ruining the good life here for 30 prices of silver.</p>
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		By: Follow up to hotel project December 2020		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Follow up to hotel project December 2020]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2020 17:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[December 2020 followup on this hotel project. First of all, it is not three stories. It is two stories with a basement and a rooftop terrace. Four stories of commercial use. 

Secondly, the CC&#038;Rs for the subdivision where the property is located only allow one story buildings. So a commercial project, like the bank that is across the street from the proposed hotel or a one story hotel, would comply with current county ordinances and CC&#038;Rs.

Too bad the county defied the community and rezoned the property to a high commercial zoning. It was not necessary and a lower commercial zoning would have been more appropriate. But that is how the Yavapai county supervisors decided. Not the only project they approved in spite of community opposition this year. See the news about the Verde Connect.

The Village of Oakcreek Association (VOCA) has governance as the HOA for the property where this hotel project is planned. The Architecture Review and Regulations Committee (ARRC) for VOCA has denial approval of the project FIVE times. Reasons stated include various ways the project does not comply with the VOCA master declaration and CC&#038;Rs for the subdivision where the property is located.

The VOCA board was supposed to vote on an appeal to one of the ARRC denials in October 2020. Rather than vote, the board sent the project back to ARRC with instructions to disregard the CC&#038;Rs clause restricting the project to one story. Why? We can&#039;t get a reasonable answer.

ARRC denied a revised plan two more times even though the VOCA board removed the ARRC chair in an apparent attempt to overturn the ARRC denial.

What will the final outcome be? Will the community desire and ARRC denial be over turned by the VOCA board as it seems some on that board want? The leader of the pack for Yavapai county was not re-elected. That should send a message that we are paying attention and will use our power to protect our rights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>December 2020 followup on this hotel project. First of all, it is not three stories. It is two stories with a basement and a rooftop terrace. Four stories of commercial use. </p>
<p>Secondly, the CC&amp;Rs for the subdivision where the property is located only allow one story buildings. So a commercial project, like the bank that is across the street from the proposed hotel or a one story hotel, would comply with current county ordinances and CC&amp;Rs.</p>
<p>Too bad the county defied the community and rezoned the property to a high commercial zoning. It was not necessary and a lower commercial zoning would have been more appropriate. But that is how the Yavapai county supervisors decided. Not the only project they approved in spite of community opposition this year. See the news about the Verde Connect.</p>
<p>The Village of Oakcreek Association (VOCA) has governance as the HOA for the property where this hotel project is planned. The Architecture Review and Regulations Committee (ARRC) for VOCA has denial approval of the project FIVE times. Reasons stated include various ways the project does not comply with the VOCA master declaration and CC&amp;Rs for the subdivision where the property is located.</p>
<p>The VOCA board was supposed to vote on an appeal to one of the ARRC denials in October 2020. Rather than vote, the board sent the project back to ARRC with instructions to disregard the CC&amp;Rs clause restricting the project to one story. Why? We can&#8217;t get a reasonable answer.</p>
<p>ARRC denied a revised plan two more times even though the VOCA board removed the ARRC chair in an apparent attempt to overturn the ARRC denial.</p>
<p>What will the final outcome be? Will the community desire and ARRC denial be over turned by the VOCA board as it seems some on that board want? The leader of the pack for Yavapai county was not re-elected. That should send a message that we are paying attention and will use our power to protect our rights.</p>
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		By: @MShobert		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/another-three-story-sedona-hotel-for-voc/comment-page-4/#comment-272951</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@MShobert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2019 20:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Karen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Karen</p>
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		By: MShobert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MShobert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Nov 2019 04:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Managed growth is good for everyone.  Get over yourselves... 

What!?  Now that you are here, &#039;close the gates.&#039;  Sounds ignorant, selfish, arrogant and greedy to me.

Build it.  Make a tourist come.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Managed growth is good for everyone.  Get over yourselves&#8230; </p>
<p>What!?  Now that you are here, &#8216;close the gates.&#8217;  Sounds ignorant, selfish, arrogant and greedy to me.</p>
<p>Build it.  Make a tourist come.</p>
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		By: Steve Segner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Segner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 23:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes, there is a small village at he front of the development, . When the original lots and plan was approved the village was to be a park and protected area and I am sure will be. Lots , roads and water are already in..... This is going to happen is some form or another. Things they are a change en. The county is pro growth and they will approve any development that will help housing and bring in more tax dollars, that s in fact there job county government is all about growth, city government has more local control and can at least guide growth. Remember all the state land is going to at some point be sold off ,Northern Arizona will be the next boom area get ready.  Just sayer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, there is a small village at he front of the development, . When the original lots and plan was approved the village was to be a park and protected area and I am sure will be. Lots , roads and water are already in&#8230;.. This is going to happen is some form or another. Things they are a change en. The county is pro growth and they will approve any development that will help housing and bring in more tax dollars, that s in fact there job county government is all about growth, city government has more local control and can at least guide growth. Remember all the state land is going to at some point be sold off ,Northern Arizona will be the next boom area get ready.  Just sayer.</p>
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		By: SPRING VALLEY DEVELOPMENT		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/another-three-story-sedona-hotel-for-voc/comment-page-4/#comment-272934</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPRING VALLEY DEVELOPMENT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know any opponents of this project?
There are supposed to be many Native American artifacts along that area. Lying on the ground surface artifacts. Surely someone has that information or can find out from a local tribe.
This could delay things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know any opponents of this project?<br />
There are supposed to be many Native American artifacts along that area. Lying on the ground surface artifacts. Surely someone has that information or can find out from a local tribe.<br />
This could delay things.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How many showed up &#038; was it televised?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many showed up &amp; was it televised?</p>
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		By: old folks unite		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[old folks unite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 14:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a movement to turn Arizona into one big tourist trap. Big, big money to be made. In order to do that, the retired people need to be driven out and low income, high density housing needs to be built to bring in the low paid, immigrant workers who will service the tourist industry. The people making decisions are land investors turned politicians. The beautiful scenery that the tourists are attracted to, like Sedona, will be destroyed. But the big money will be made before that happens. The politicians and investors are in a rush. They are corrupt. So many conflicts of interest in the system. The only solution is for the retired people to work and spend their retirement money to fight it. They will for a while, but in the end the big, big money will win. Or will it? Don&#039;t underestimate a bunch of intelligent, old folks with time and money. The internet has plenty of dirt on the crooks who want to destroy the land and our neighborhoods for the almighty dollar. Vote them out fast. They are working fast to destroy Arizona.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a movement to turn Arizona into one big tourist trap. Big, big money to be made. In order to do that, the retired people need to be driven out and low income, high density housing needs to be built to bring in the low paid, immigrant workers who will service the tourist industry. The people making decisions are land investors turned politicians. The beautiful scenery that the tourists are attracted to, like Sedona, will be destroyed. But the big money will be made before that happens. The politicians and investors are in a rush. They are corrupt. So many conflicts of interest in the system. The only solution is for the retired people to work and spend their retirement money to fight it. They will for a while, but in the end the big, big money will win. Or will it? Don&#8217;t underestimate a bunch of intelligent, old folks with time and money. The internet has plenty of dirt on the crooks who want to destroy the land and our neighborhoods for the almighty dollar. Vote them out fast. They are working fast to destroy Arizona.</p>
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