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		By: Alarmed		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alarmed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2015 21:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are some exceptions, but it&#039;s more like after being manipulated and fed B.S., the City Council folks do the bidding of City staff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some exceptions, but it&#8217;s more like after being manipulated and fed B.S., the City Council folks do the bidding of City staff.</p>
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		By: Rockin Roger		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 00:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Do you suppose?

For the city manager to be able to put a stop to anything that you propose is not possible because the city manager does the bidding of the council folks not the other way around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Do you suppose?</p>
<p>For the city manager to be able to put a stop to anything that you propose is not possible because the city manager does the bidding of the council folks not the other way around.</p>
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		By: Eddie S. Maddock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eddie S. Maddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2015 20:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Point well made @&quot;Consider This.&quot;  On a much less grand scale, of course, than attacks on Monica Lewinski, those who choose to use Sedona Eye to vent their wrath are among the minority and their comments more often than not have nothing to do with the topic of discussion. The bantering about of personal issues and vendettas about which nobody knows or cares becomes boring to readers, a deliberate method to discourage them? 

Continuing to share opinions which stimulate interesting discussions is far more productive and can even be educational. Ignoring the rabble rousers might be the best way to send a message that we are not interested.

Eddie Maddock]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point well made @&#8221;Consider This.&#8221;  On a much less grand scale, of course, than attacks on Monica Lewinski, those who choose to use Sedona Eye to vent their wrath are among the minority and their comments more often than not have nothing to do with the topic of discussion. The bantering about of personal issues and vendettas about which nobody knows or cares becomes boring to readers, a deliberate method to discourage them? </p>
<p>Continuing to share opinions which stimulate interesting discussions is far more productive and can even be educational. Ignoring the rabble rousers might be the best way to send a message that we are not interested.</p>
<p>Eddie Maddock</p>
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		By: Consider This		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Consider This]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2015 17:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.ted.com/talks/monica_lewinsky_the_price_of_shame]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/monica_lewinsky_the_price_of_shame" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ted.com/talks/monica_lewinsky_the_price_of_shame</a></p>
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		By: Do You Suppose?		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/a-good-time-was-had-by-all/comment-page-4/#comment-109125</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Do You Suppose?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you suppose that maybe just maybe the new City Manager (Justin Clifton) will have the foresight and integrity to put a stop to this love affair with city council &amp; staff and Steve Segner &amp; chamber of commerce? Or has the Sedona Mafia already given him his marching orders? Time will tell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you suppose that maybe just maybe the new City Manager (Justin Clifton) will have the foresight and integrity to put a stop to this love affair with city council &#038; staff and Steve Segner &#038; chamber of commerce? Or has the Sedona Mafia already given him his marching orders? Time will tell.</p>
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		By: Al, Legitimate Sedona Resident		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al, Legitimate Sedona Resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Mary G - The article you offered is a nice contribution but those who would benefit most probably won&#039;t admit they need help.

@RC Martinez - What this looks more and more like is that council member(s) made a deal with Segner &#038; the Chamber before it ever went public. When asked about that in another comment someplace Segner never did answer directly. 

Problem is there&#039;s no way to prove it and very unlikely anyone involved would admit the deal was made and the trade-off was the increase in bed tax. There&#039;s no honor among thieves. What better example? 

We&#039;re stuck in the muck. When the city was giving the Chamber a smaller amount for the Visitor Center contract, it made a bit of sense it was less costly than for the city to have their own. At this time, however, with over a million dollars on the table, it&#039;s a farce.

Total withdrawal of funding to the scam artists would solve the problem. But then trying telling that to an alcoholic. 

No amount of flim-flam BS justifies this rip off to, especially, city based businesses who no longer have the choice for legitimate city representation without being forced to be a member of the C of C. 

All that might be missing is the threat of &quot;cement shoes&quot; to those who will not play ball. How do we know that hasn&#039;t already occurred?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mary G &#8211; The article you offered is a nice contribution but those who would benefit most probably won&#8217;t admit they need help.</p>
<p>@RC Martinez &#8211; What this looks more and more like is that council member(s) made a deal with Segner &amp; the Chamber before it ever went public. When asked about that in another comment someplace Segner never did answer directly. </p>
<p>Problem is there&#8217;s no way to prove it and very unlikely anyone involved would admit the deal was made and the trade-off was the increase in bed tax. There&#8217;s no honor among thieves. What better example? </p>
<p>We&#8217;re stuck in the muck. When the city was giving the Chamber a smaller amount for the Visitor Center contract, it made a bit of sense it was less costly than for the city to have their own. At this time, however, with over a million dollars on the table, it&#8217;s a farce.</p>
<p>Total withdrawal of funding to the scam artists would solve the problem. But then trying telling that to an alcoholic. </p>
<p>No amount of flim-flam BS justifies this rip off to, especially, city based businesses who no longer have the choice for legitimate city representation without being forced to be a member of the C of C. </p>
<p>All that might be missing is the threat of &#8220;cement shoes&#8221; to those who will not play ball. How do we know that hasn&#8217;t already occurred?</p>
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		By: RC Martinez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RC Martinez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 13:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Segner has said it repeatedly on this site. The laws are made by city council. City council openly tells everyone they make the decisions. They don&#039;t listen or represent the citizens. City staff stands behind the lodging and chamber.  Many of us have @Hank Mandel they ignore us. What tools do you know that would help?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Segner has said it repeatedly on this site. The laws are made by city council. City council openly tells everyone they make the decisions. They don&#8217;t listen or represent the citizens. City staff stands behind the lodging and chamber.  Many of us have @Hank Mandel they ignore us. What tools do you know that would help?</p>
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		By: Mary G		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/a-good-time-was-had-by-all/comment-page-4/#comment-109087</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just Sayin&#039; and West Sedona Resident

You poor thing, Julianna must have really hurt you. There will be other loves. You have to let go before you can recover. 

Try www.dbsalliance.org, they can help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just Sayin&#8217; and West Sedona Resident</p>
<p>You poor thing, Julianna must have really hurt you. There will be other loves. You have to let go before you can recover. </p>
<p>Try <a href="http://www.dbsalliance.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dbsalliance.org</a>, they can help.</p>
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		By: Just Sayin'		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/a-good-time-was-had-by-all/comment-page-4/#comment-109070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just Sayin']]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2015 20:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Sharlett

 ATTENTION ALL PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT SHARLETT WAS SOMEONE ELSE YOU ARE ALL WRONG. SHE&#039;S NOT SHARLETT. Because she say&#039;s so. 

Also, please believe her when she says that she never posts under any other name.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sharlett</p>
<p> ATTENTION ALL PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT SHARLETT WAS SOMEONE ELSE YOU ARE ALL WRONG. SHE&#8217;S NOT SHARLETT. Because she say&#8217;s so. </p>
<p>Also, please believe her when she says that she never posts under any other name.</p>
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		By: Hank Mandel		</title>
		<link>https://sedonaeye.com/a-good-time-was-had-by-all/comment-page-4/#comment-109068</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hank Mandel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2015 19:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Demand transparency, use the tools given to citizens. Why reinvent the wheel? This talk of mafia, ridiculous, but power consortium that needs to be held in check, likely.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Demand transparency, use the tools given to citizens. Why reinvent the wheel? This talk of mafia, ridiculous, but power consortium that needs to be held in check, likely.  </p>
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