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Our Founding Fathers Foresaw the Potential Tyranny of the Popular Vote!

SedonaEye.com J. Rick Normand, Investigative and Financial Columnist

SedonaEye.com J. Rick Normand, Investigative and Financial Columnist

Sedona AZ (November 21, 2016) – I grew up on the north side of Lincoln Drive at about 40th Street in Phoenix and just on the south side of Lincoln Drive at the same longitude was Senator Barry Goldwater’s house. My sister, in the mid-seventies was, and still is to this day, a corporate ranch manager, who then managed Senator Goldwater’s horses. I got to know him personally, not on a first name basis, but was invited into his home several times. He wrote a testimonial letter in my behalf, on U.S. Senate letterhead, asking then-Senator John Tower of Texas to employ me on his (Tower’s) Congressional staff. I always addressed Senator Goldwater as “Senator.”

One thing I learned from Senator Goldwater was that certain prominent Republicans have some allies in the Democrat Party who are, for the duration of a venerated career, closer to them than fellow Republicans while Democrats have the same relationships with certain Republicans. These opposed party alliances are comprised of friends who have the exact same political belief-systems, the same deep-state bureaucratic enablers, the same contacts, the same media supporters, the same donors, the same judicial support, and the same legislative goals while their only difference is…their party label! Upon learning this I began to realize that there exists in this country a Democrat-Republican paradigm wherein both parties argue over cosmetic issues while never touching upon those significant differences that could divide the country…as happened during the American Civil War. In other words, no one from either party is allowed to step outside the universal ground rules. And, voters are led to believe that they have a choice since they’re never apprised of the cloaked mutually-defined and respected interlocking dual-party ground rules. Usually, most presidential elections are played within these commonly accepted ground rules. But only the elections of 1860 and this one we’ve all just participated in, did not have both opponents agreeable to the same hidden ground rules. 

Whether vote rigging is occurring or not, there is now a distinct possibility that the Federal Election Commission, as well as the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, are not capable of fair election regulation since modern international and domestic hacktivist threat actors have the online capability, the personnel talent pool, the funding, and the cross-border banking/commercial and political connections to put into play robust vote rigging scenarios. Only enough popular votes need be rigged in our six largest “battleground” states, coupled with a few of our largest cities, to make it easy for presidential elections to always be determined by the same few states and cities, leaving the votes of the remainder of the country’s states virtually nullified. In other words, your vote, if you’re an Arizonan, is not of the same weight and importance as a California vote just next door. 

Here’s the recipe for the handlers of the Democrat-Republican false adversarial paradigm to enable them to manipulate the presidential election popular vote:

(1) Publish a poll contrived to suggest the result you are going to bring about.

(2) Manipulate the voting machines to bring about precisely your desired outcome.

voteHow do the politicians of both parties get away with it?  It’s as easy as determining, on the basis of honest polling, who is going to win. Then, if it isn’t your candidate, simply have the votes for the other guy be given digitally to your guy, and vice versa. You keep the total vote the same. Few federal or state regulators can recognize the slight-of-hand.

Since 1987, the Media Research Center (MRC) has been the nation’s premier media watchdog. They don’t endorse politicians or lobby for legislation. The Media Research Center (MRC) has recently announced its findings of a new post-election 2016 poll on what actual voters thought about the media’s influence on the 2016 presidential race. The MRC/YouGov poll was conducted on November 9 and 10.

Key findings:

  • in 10 (69%) voters do not believe the news media are honest and truthful.
  • in 10 (78%) voters believe the news coverage of the presidential campaign was biased, especially though polling projections.

About that NBC/WSJ Clinton +11 Point Poll lead that didn’t materialize on election night…

♦ Republican and those leaning Republican-36%

♦ Democrat and those leaning Democrat-43%

Independents-12% 

Above you can see precisely why the 2016 presidential election polls were so miserably inaccurate and misleading. Nevertheless, the participating 2016 presidential election polls were intended to influence the voting decisions of the registered voters in the large battleground states and cities. In other words, the mainstream media polls were designed to illicitly affect the popular vote since many voters want to vote with their perception of the winning side. 

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what the problem was in this poll. By the way, the obvious problem with this most prestigious of polls was prevalent throughout the entirety of the polling and media industries. By itself, this ideological snapshot is just plain silly. Nationally the party registration is actually  32% (D), 27% (R), and 40% (I).

If you live in one of the 44 smallest states, or outside the top 20 largest cities, or in rural America, or you don’t meet the preferred demographic profile, you’d just as well not waste your time voting in national presidential elections…that is, if not for the Constitutionally prescribed Electoral College. 

Retiring Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-California, just introduced “long-shot-odds” legislation on November 15 to scrap the Electoral College, in the latest protest from Democrats following last week’s election wherein Hillary Clinton appeared to win the popular vote despite losing the election to Donald Trump. Trump, as with all presidential election victors, won the election because he garnered the most Electoral College votes. “This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency. The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately,” Boxer, who apparently thinks she is smarter than the entirety of our Founding Fathers, said in a statement after trying to effect the change she wants through an unconstitutional method.

Three million invalid votes in the recent U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens and/or non-citizens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization after completing an analysis of an 180-million-voter-registrations database. Contemporaneously, President Obama, in a shocking interview replayed on Fox News by host Neil Cavuto, actually seemed to suggest that illegals should vote – and that if they did, they wouldn’t be caught and deported.

Meanwhile, The Hill, the prestigious beltway publication, said “A recent study by Stanford University proved that Hillary Clinton’s campaign rigged the system to steal the nomination from Bernie Sanders.” Worse, what was done to Bernie Sanders in Wisconsin, especially, is stunning. The issue here is both voter fraud which is limited but does happen and election theft through the manipulation of the computerized voting machines, particularly the DIEBOLD/PES voting machines in wide usage in most states which are manufactured by Diebold Security Systems, Inc. This is not to mention the potential of possible use of London-based Smartmatic voting machines whose Chairman, Lord Mark Malloch-Brown, sits on the Global Board of the Open Society Foundation, an international grant-making network founded by George Soros who is the billionaire left-wing activist that sponsors groups like MoveOn.org and Black Lives Matter, as well as several foreign leftist revolutionary organizations like the illegal coup government of the Ukraine. Wouldn’t you think this type of conflict-of-interest should face legal constraints? Well, it doesn’t! Think about this quote from The Hill:

“You’ve heard the old adage ‘follow the money.’ I follow the vote, and wherever the vote becomes an electron and touches a computer, that’s an opportunity for a malicious actor potentially to … make bad things happen.” – Steve Stigall, CIA cyber-security expert, in remarks to the U.S. Election Assistance Commission 

POLITICO profiled a highly published college professor in the field of voting fraud who has demonstrated how the electronic voting machines that are most widely used today can be hacked in five minutes or less! His name is Robert Fitrakis who has co-written a must-read book on the “strip and flip technique” used to rig these machines. This book, written in collaboration with Harvey Wasserman, is entitled “THE STRIP & FLIP SELECTION OF 2016: Five Jim Crows & Electronic Election Theft.Professor Fitrakis is a progressive liberal and Green Party activist, as well as a Political Science Professor in the Social and Behavioral Sciences Department at Columbus State Community College, where he won the Distinguished Teaching Award in 1991. He was a Ford Foundation Fellow to the Michigan State Legislature in 1975 and studied at the University of Sarajevo on scholarship in 1978. Fitrakis earned a J.D. from the Ohio State University’s Moritz College of Law in 2002. To wit, he says the Diebold AccuVote-TS Touchscreen voting machine that he recently analyzed was found to be running malicious software on a single voting machine that could be installed in as little as one minute, spreading invisibly from machine to machine through a virus, while stealing votes with little risk of detection. 

While recent laws have limited essential hand-counting audits, in some cases actually making them illegal, 18 states operate voting machines that produce no paper ballot at all, making verification of the results impossible. This is where the “strip and flip” technique described by Professor Fitrakis comes in. We are now living in a fake reality of constructed data and phony polls. The computerized voting machines can be hacked and rigged and, after the experience of Bernie Sanders, there is no reason to believe they won’t be again. In other words, as mentioned above, the U.S. Federal Election Commission doesn’t really know the true popular vote totals. So much for a reported “close popular vote!” 

Notwithstanding, in light of all the aforementioned, how many of you remember the United States presidential election of 2000? The contest was between Republican candidate George W. Bush and  Democratic candidate Al Gore. The 2000 presidential election was the fourth of five elections in U.S. history and the first, in 112 years, in which the eventual winner failed to win the popular vote (after the elections of 1824, 1876, and 1888, but prior to the election of 2016). It was the closest presidential election in the nation’s history, with a .009% margin, 537 votes, separating the two candidates in the decisive “battleground” state of Florida. Florida’s narrow margin triggered a mandatory recount. Litigation in select counties proliferated into additional recounts, and thus, this litigation ultimately reached the United States Supreme Court. The Court’s contentious 5–4 decision in Bush v. Gore, announced on December 12, 2000, ended the recounts, effectively awarding Florida’s votes to Bush and granting him the victory. Studies have reached conflicting conclusions about who would have won the recount had it been allowed to proceed. Remember the “hanging chads” of disputed paper ballots? Conflicting conclusions would have been the outcome alright, along with a Constitutional Crisis! Are you beginning to see the risks involved with a simple popular majority election vote determinant?

Our Founding Fathers, in their documentcrafting genius, suspected future vote-rigging would be the case if they should build a simple popular vote into our Republic’s constitutional presidential selection process and leave it at that. 

So why did our Founding Fathers adopt the Electoral College presidential election/selection voting concept in the first place?

They knew what they were doing! The Electoral College was created for two reasons: The first purpose was to create a buffer between our population and the selection of a President. The Founding Fathers were afraid of direct election to the Presidency. They feared a tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come to power (Federalist 68). Isn’t that what’s going on in this present day? The second was part of the structure of the government that gave extra power to the smaller states in order to prevent a tyranny of an oligarchy incorporated where the location of major job-producing industries attracts the most voters!

Furthermore, Hamilton and the other founders believed that the electors would be able to insure that only a qualified person becomes President. They believed that with the Electoral College no one would be able to manipulate the citizenry. It would act as check on an electorate that might otherwise be duped by the media which, today, is all-pervasive, all day, every day, in our homes. Furthermore, the Electoral College is also part of certain compromises made at the convention to satisfy the small states. Under the system of the Electoral College each state had the same number of electoral votes as they have representatives in Congress, thus no state could have less then 3. If not for this time-tested 240+ year system, just our six largest states would always determine who the President of the United States would be and the vital interests of the rest of us would never, ever, see the light of day. 

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While there are clear problems with the Electoral College, as well as some major advantages to it, changing it is very unlikely. It would take a constitutional amendment ratified by 3/4 of the State’s Legislatures to change the system. Remember, the 50 states have constitutional dual-sovereignty with the federal government. It is hard to imagine the smaller states agreeing to an electoral procedure that would weaken them even further as against the largest states. Also, it would be difficult, but not impossible, to get other states to change their systems since the party that has the advantage in each state is unlikely to agree to a unilateral change. Senator Boxer of California is obviously quite naive as to Constitutional election law.

The Electoral College is not out-dated, but rather, is better than ever at accomplishing its originally intended purpose. The next time you hear a televised talking-head or ill-advised fanatical supporter of any candidate argue for the abolition of the Electoral College, you’ll know how to defend it since simple popular vote majorities, which are almost impossible to confirm in this electronic age anyway, can lead to a tyranny of industrial and banking oligarchs domiciled in the six largest states who can manipulate most voter’s ideologies and belief-systems starting with those implied in our nation’s public education system.

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48 Comments

  1. The Thought Proctologist says:

    @JRN and Readers at The EYE

    A member of the Electoral Commission in Texas says his colleagues are getting death threats as angry Hillary supporters ramp up the pressure before electors cast their vote on December 19th.

    Another elector (to the Electoral College) in Michigan said he has received a number of death threats, including a promise that he, too, would be shot in the head if he voted for Trump on December 19 when the Electoral College convenes.

    So, this how social justice warriors behave when they are facing defeat? Or, is it that they want to participate in a rigged popular vote by threat of violence to those who believe in the U.S. Constitution?

  2. HP says:

    This is outrageous news if true!!!!!!!! in my book that’s TREASONABLE and TERRORISM. arrest any one attempting to overthrow or destroy our basic right to VOTE. That’s no different than someone trying to terrorize the Jurors on a case and or a government or business person/official trying to perform their jobs. Every person in America deserves basic respect until they prove they are not deserving of it. If they break the law and they’re not citizens they should be immediately deported and never allowed back in this country. don’t disrespect the hand that helped you and Is giving you an opportunity to do both for yourself. If you’re a citizen and break the law then you should serve time in jail or prison. no more political correctness.

  3. HP says:

    I should have said too I’m talking about acts against our right to vote and our government because I think some of our laws are not right and need to be addressed . That’s when a good judge or a good police dept or a good attorney can make decisions based on extenuating circumstances. I do think though that when it comes to somebody being in this country without citizenship who breaks the law against its people they have to go back because it’s against the government that has opened its doors to help them. Why can they break laws to protect our government and voting why would they even want to stay? Thanks for the chance to clarify the thoughts. HP

  4. Greenberg says:

    now that’s a mouthful

  5. Wsr says:

    @Thought Proctologist

    What are messaging yourself……we all know you are J Rick Normand…

    A blind man can see that

  6. The Thought Proctologist says:

    @the hallucinagenic Wsr,

    “We all know” implies that you know something that is beyond your knowledge acquisition capabilities. Rather than try to assuage your illiteracy with your incessant ad hominem attacks, why don’t you try to debate J. Rick over some point in the content of his article? I’ll tell you and the public why-because you know you’re not bright enough or clever enough to deal with him on the merits of his arguments, whatever they may be. You’re a born loser at every endeavor you attempt Wsr which every reader at this site recognizes. If not, why do you always hide from J. Rick? And, I am not him. The publisher at this site knows that. I just can’t stand cowards who talk tough while in hiding.

  7. Wsr says:

    Yea ok

    JRN……Thought Proc…

    Anyone can recognize your bloviating…

  8. Larry, Sedona says:

    Rick Normand conclusion: “The Electoral College is not out-dated, but rather, is better than ever at accomplishing its originally intended purpose. The next time you hear a televised talking-head or ill-advised fanatical supporter of any candidate argue for the abolition of the Electoral College, you’ll know how to defend it since simple popular vote majorities, which are almost impossible to confirm in this electronic age anyway, can lead to a tyranny of industrial and banking oligarchs domiciled in the six largest states who can manipulate most voter’s ideologies and belief-systems starting with those implied in our nation’s public education system.”

    I agree. Well written. Well explained. And I’m a registered Democrat. But I studied and learned to think and reason for myself, and I can still do it today regardless of the loudest and most powerful voices surrounding me – I separate chaff from wheat. Suggest @Wsr you try it.

  9. E. S. Maddock says:

    Hats off to Larry, Sedona. You zeroed in on the gist of the article with which I agree. Because I became entangled with another issue it delayed my commenting here. Nice job, J. Rick, and repeating – Larry, your paragraph beginning with “I agree” = well done and ditto!

  10. J. Rick Normand says:

    @ All Readers at The Eye,

    ZeroHedge has just posted a truly insightful educational piece on the Electoral College entitled “Let’s Expand The Electoral College” which, essentially, addresses this concept: The electoral college could and should be expanded to function as a veto mechanism of legislation, executive orders, and Supreme Court rulings. Well worth the read!

    Maybe WSR, Wsr and all the other West Sedona Resident variants will actually consider making some astute comments about this revolutionary concept.

    JRN

  11. Wsr says:

    Hey JRN

    Here’s an astute question for you

    How come you also post under the handle “thought proctologist”!???
    Have you posted some questionable comments on SE and you scared of any repercussions !!!!!

  12. J. Rick Normand says:

    @the old witch Wsr,

    First of all, you’re not smart enough to ask astute questions. Second of all, I never, ever, hide behind a false handle…Unlike you, I don’t have to. Third of all, I don’t post questionable comments since I only post what I can back up and defend. And lastly, once again you’ve proved to be to much of a coward to address issues relative to my article!

    JRN

  13. Michael Schroeder says:

    Rick, great history lesson and analysis. I have referred to it multiple times. The national map graphic basically says it all.

  14. WSR says:

    @JRN

    Oh Ricky. Did I give you a little tickle? Must be some truth in what I said….Why would you react so aggressively…..

    Tell us Thought Proctoligist….

    I see you Tea Party buddy Mike S chimmed in….you ever get a look at his FB page… He’s the poster boy for Tea Party Hipocrital Ideologies…

  15. J. Rick Normand says:

    @All Readers at The Eye,

    Trump has won the popular vote (and Electoral Vote) in 30 states, compared to Clinton’s 20 states (and those 20 State Electoral Votes).

    If States do NOT certify their respective Electors BY December 19th, and cannot offer a certification of these respective Electors, then the President of the U.S. SENATE counts up the sum of the “majority” of the CERTIFIED ELECTORS to determine who is President. If MI and WI don’t certify in time, they are NOT needed.

    In that case, the Republicans don’t need 270 Electors of out of 538, they just need a Majority of the actual CERTIFIED ELECTORS on December 19th!

    Trump still WINS! Gee, WSR & Wsr, I thought, for sure, one of you geniuses would figure this out.

    Oh, btw, your statement “He’s the poster boy for Tea Party Hipocrital Ideologies…” proves what The Thought Proctologist has always said about you two tired old married losers, namely, that neither of you is bright enough to make any sort of astute statement. You don’t even know what a HYPOCRITE is, much less how to spell it. Try HYPOCRITICAL half wits!)

    JRN

  16. Wsr says:

    As usual JRN thanks for the spelling lesson.

    Also JRN……thanks for toning down your bloviating in you last post. So refreshing.. I love how you vehemently deny that you don’t post under “Thought proctologist “. I think one protest to much…

    Most likely the above information you posted is completely wrong, as you frequently quote sources which are politically slanted or just outright lies…

    Nevertheless since I voted for Trump anyway I’m sure all is well

  17. J. Rick Normand says:

    @All Readers at The Eye,

    The Wisconsin Electoral Commission has just refused Jill Stein’s request for a recount, while the Michigan Electoral Commission has just certified it’s presidential election vote results (16 Electoral College votes awarded to Donald Trump). So, the presidential election vote recount scam is over with. So much for HRC’s concession speech promises.

    JRN

  18. Bee Thanh --SDS says:

    TU@Normand {While there are clear problems with the Electoral College, as well as some major advantages to it, changing it is very unlikely. It would take a constitutional amendment ratified by 3/4 of the State’s Legislatures to change the system. Remember, the 50 states have constitutional dual-sovereignty with the federal government. It is hard to imagine the smaller states agreeing to an electoral procedure that would weaken them even further as against the largest states. Also, it would be difficult, but not impossible, to get other states to change their systems since the party that has the advantage in each state is unlikely to agree to a unilateral change. Senator Boxer of California is obviously quite naive as to Constitutional election law.

    The Electoral College is not out-dated, but rather, is better than ever at accomplishing its originally intended purpose. The next time you hear a televised talking-head or ill-advised fanatical supporter of any candidate argue for the abolition of the Electoral College, you’ll know how to defend it since simple popular vote majorities, which are almost impossible to confirm in this electronic age anyway, can lead to a tyranny of industrial and banking oligarchs domiciled in the six largest states who can manipulate most voter’s ideologies and belief-systems starting with those implied in our nation’s public education system.}

    –used in class++educational value –Bernie S should have won–no family&friendzone votes 4her here

  19. The Thought Proctologist says:

    @jrn

    With death threats for presidential electors who plan to vote for Donald Trump continuing to be reported across America, the FBI is now being urged to investigate the rampant voter intimidation. So, is this how progressives deal with defeat?

  20. Wsr says:

    Thought Proctologist

    Your hilarious…….you wrote another post to yourself…..
    We all know that the “thought proctologist” is J Rick Normand….

    J Rick why do you post using your real name and than an alias… Did you step over the line regarding defamation of character?

  21. Wsr says:

    @jrn

    I guess you were wrong once again….

    The Wisconsin presidential recount is on and taking place…

  22. The Thought Proctologist says:

    @the grizzled old hag, Wsr,

    Social media trolls, like you (who is prototypical), have a tendency to exaggerate…as in hyperbole. And you do it excessively. You like strong phrases like “we all know” (which is impossible for you to know since you don’t know a single reader or commenter at this site while no one at this site thinks well of enough of you to communicate with you), “everyone knows,” or words like “never” and “every” as opposed to the typically more accurate “infrequently” and “some,” presumably because these extremes are more inflammatory.

    Furthermore, trolls like you belong to a part of the Internet community that appears to never have learned the English language before but nevertheless wields it with reckless abandon. Your posts are often riddled with misused words, the wrong homophones (there, their, they’re; your, you’re; to, too, two; etc.), and other crimes against grammar. You often break other conventional writing etiquette by skipping capitalization altogether or, alternately, writing in ALL CAPS, misusing punctuation (or disregarding it entirely), and communicating in fractured text-speak, riddled with misspellings and nonsensical abbreviations.

    Trolls like you always want to attack and pontificate but not constructively discuss because you know that you’re not bright enough to win a debate. You do not have the courage to say to your target’s face what you say online. You are bully who is brave in a pack but shrink away from confrontation when you haven’t a computer to hide behind.

    You’re also more likely to foul language than the average social media user.

  23. J. Rick Normand says:

    @Wsr,

    All Wisconsin newspapers, most national news media, and VoterFraud.org all reported that a Wisconsin judge denied the petition to order a HAND BALLOT recount. Yesterday afternoon, the same judge reversed himself and wrote an order to the Election Commission to recount the ELECTRONIC VOTES using precisely the same voting machines that were used in the election…meaning that the recount will turn out the same. So, I was not wrong in what I reported at the time. This is typical for your convoluted corrupted mind, Wsr.

    Meanwhile, the only news source that had reported what you’ve alluded to at the time you posted your claim was The Yeshiva World News of Jerusalem. Why were you reading that publication which has almost no U.S. circulation?

    JRN

  24. J. Rick Normand says:

    @ All Readers at The Eye,

    Re: Current presidential election statistics that underscore why our Founding Fathers devised the Electoral College

    There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

    Trump won 3,084 of them.
    Clinton won 57.

    There are 62 counties in New York State.

    Trump won 46 of them.
    Clinton won 16.

    Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes, not counting illegal voters and votes of the deceased.

    In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)

    Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning a questionable popular vote of the entire country.

    These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.
    The United States is comprised of 3, 797,000 square miles.

    When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.

    Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country.

    Amen.

    JRN

  25. Anonymous says:

    @JRick Normand

    All the useless information. Bottom line Trump Won..
    More importantly you never answered my original question ……Why do you also post under the name “Thought Proctologist”? Where you posting in an angry or threatening manner and you got scared or were catching heat?

  26. J. Rick Normand says:

    @Anonymous

    I take heat from no one, I fear no one, and I have no reason whatsoever to use a handle other than my own name. If you want to challenge what I’ve just said, I’m willing to meet you face to face. But, you won’t do that will you butt-hurt? And, btw, my previous post is vital information. Anything you write, or even think, is useless information.

    JRN

  27. Wsr says:

    @jRN
    &Thought Proctologist(both the same person)

    I disagree ….I think my information is very vital……It exposes yourself as a bloviating Hypocritical Tea Party blowhard….

  28. The Thought Proctologist says:

    @Wsr and Anonymous

    With your last post here, YOU JUST ADMITTED that you’re both Wsr and Anonymous while you denigrate J. Rick and me for being the same person, which we both have always truthfully denied. Not to mention that you’ve just proved that your just not very bright, you’ve proved yourself both a fraud and a hypocrite (which you can’t spell correctly) you grizzly looking old witch. And, btw, why didn’t you answer JRN’s question as to why your pushing info published by The Yeshiva World News of Jerusalem? If your info is vital, why are you sourcing it from that highly questionable source? Since you’ve never done any original research in your inconsequential life, I would imagine somebody else fed you that info and that you didn’t read it at all.

  29. West sedona Resident says:

    J Rick Normand
    Thought Proctologist

    The above are both the same person….J Rick still can’t understand why you use your real name AND then an Alias

    Yes that anonymous post was WSR…forgot to fill it in before I posted

  30. Wayne Johnson says:

    Heard that Dr. Ben Carson appointed to head HUD. A great man. President-elect Trump did that one right.

  31. J. Rick Normand says:

    @West sedona Resident, WSR, Wsr, & Anonymous,

    Do you realize that you’ve just admitted that YOU’RE ALL FOUR OF THESE HANDLES while accusing me of being two handles with no evidence or confirmation of any kind? Can’t you ever do anything right?

    JRN

  32. West sedona resident says:

    JRN

    So what….

    Wsr WSR west sedona resident. Yeah it’s all me …I repeat so what….there’s all the same…. I’m not pretending to be JRN. And the Thought Proctologist… what’s your point…..Or as in most of your posts….”there is no point”. Just a lot of huffing and hot air

  33. The Thought Proctologist says:

    @West sedona Resident, WSR, Wsr, Anonymous

    You are terrified of me aren’t you? I’m one woman who is so much smarter than you that I can outwit you in any argument and you know it, weenie. You’ve now admitted to being a fraud and a pathological liar but you talk about hot air emanating from those you secretly envy so very much. Well, it’s crystal clear by now that you aren’t full of hot air, you’re full of something of much greater weight. You have utterly failed at everything you’ve tried to accomplish at this site.

  34. Wsr says:

    @The thought Proctologist
    Aka. J Rick Normand

    Rick you need to change your writing styles abit when you post under your name and your alias Thought Proctologist…

    A blind man can see you are one and the same…. Your ego driven bloviating is a dead give-away…. Thanks for making me laugh..

  35. The Thought Proctologist says:

    @WSR/Wsr

    Did your morning read of The Yeshiva World News of Jerusalem upset you? Or, is your cerebral diverticulitis particularly annoying this morning? Either way, I have a solution for you if you care to ask about it.

  36. J. Rick Normand says:

    @All Readers at The Eye,

    Re: Green Party candidate Jill Stein’s Michigan recount UNINTENTIONALLY exposed a major voting fraud scandal.

    One-in-three precincts in heavily Democratic Detroit weren’t eligible for recounts due to large discrepancies, which included at least one election observer in Precinct 152 uncovering that votes there may have been counted six times in favor of Hillary Clinton.

    The Detroit News reported:

    One-third of precincts in Wayne County could be disqualified from an unprecedented statewide recount of presidential election results because of problems with ballots.

    Michigan’s largest county voted overwhelmingly for Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, but officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 610 of 1,680 precincts during a countywide canvass of vote results late last month.

    Most of those are in heavily Democratic Detroit, where the number of ballots in precinct poll books did not match those of voting machine printout reports in 59 percent of precincts, 392 of 662.

    According to Michigan state law, precincts whose poll books don’t match with ballots can’t be recounted. If that happens, original election results stand.

    JRN

  37. J. Rick Normand says:

    @All Readers at The Eye”

    Headline: Support for Abolishing Electoral College Hits Historic Low in Gallup Poll

    In the wake of an election in which Hillary Clinton won the popular vote but Donald Trump was elected president by winning the Electoral College, a survey showed the lowest percentage of people ever in a Gallup poll saying they would support amending the Constitution to eliminate the Electoral College and decide presidential elections by the popular vote.

    “This year, for the first time in the 49 years Gallup has asked about it, less than half of Americans want to replace the Electoral College with a popular vote system,” Gallup said in an analysis of its poll results.

    JRN

  38. Wsr says:

    @JRN/Thiughrt Proctologist(same guy)

    Gee thanks J-Rick…..we love it when you post useless information and use politically slanted references as your source….

    Question for you: I’ve never come across any man who who uses a letter before a name ( like for example “J Rick). Is that suppose to make you feel “special”….kinda like your intelligently superior to people?

    Or is it because you live off your daddy’s trust fund and never had to accomplish much in your life? Do you lack a “true sense of self”… “Just wondering”

  39. Dave, Sedona says:

    I received this as a forward and thought it worth the share here. Food for thought and all that. Dave, Sedona outside the city limits if that matters!!

    Celebrities
    This group of disingenuous asses has been completely rejected in an overwhelming way with the election of Trump. Their arrogance and inflated self assessments have been exposed for the complete and total nonsense they are. The threats of moving out of the country if Trump was elected has come back to bite them in the ass in a big way. Their movies suck, their songs are filled with racial slurs, bigotry and violence and their political views are irrelevant. The list that promised to leave the country was long but interestingly enough, their stated destinations did not include Mexico, Guatemala or Syria.
    We can only hope they don’t invade our friends to the north and completely destroy relations with the Canadian people. The meltdown of Miley Cyrus and others in the entertainment world has drawn attention to a pathetic segment of our society that is cabal controlled and influenced by the satanic forces of the world.

  40. J. Rick Normand says:

    @All Readers at The Eye,

    This post is an adjunct to my post above of Nov 27:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

    ***U.S. Supreme Court[edit]***

    The constitutionality of state Electoral College pledge laws was confirmed by the Supreme Court in 1952 in Ray v. Blair[7] in a 5–2 vote. The court ruled states have the right to require electors to pledge to vote for the candidate whom their party supports, and the right to remove potential electors who refuse to pledge prior to the election. The court also wrote:

    “However, even if such promises of candidates for the electoral college are legally unenforceable because violative of an assumed constitutional freedom of the elector under the Constitution, Art. II, § 1, to vote as he may choose in the electoral college, it would NOT[edit] follow that the requirement of a pledge in the primary is unconstitutional).”

    So, what will follow on Monday, December 19, 2016, should enough pledged Electors violate their pledge to their respective state’s majority is an arduous lawsuit that will probably throw our country into a Constitutional crisis which will be resolved by the Republican controlled U.S. Senate.

    JRN

  41. N. Waples says:

    Interesting

  42. Michael Fay says:

    FAKE NEWS. I’m sick and tired of the uninformed using fake news to bolster their agenda. The three million illegal vote story is bogus: http://www.snopes.com/three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/

    Read. And not just for confirmation bias.

  43. Ray Arso says:

    Sir, you used Snopes.com as a source? Snopes.com is a democrat billionaire George Soris owned site. It was outed a couple of years ago. it’s sole purpose is to further the Obama plan and the Democratic Party policies. try factcheck.org and several other unbiased sites. No one uses Snopes.com any longer.

  44. J. Rick Normand says:

    @Michael Fay,

    Relative to “Fake News” Mr. Fay, I would suggest that you learn how to conduct effective and reliable research.

    Snopes “main political fact-checker,” is Kim Lacapria.. Ironically, or not, prior to her position as political fact-checker for Snopes, Lacapria was wrote for the Inquisitr, a blog with considerable less than stellar reputation. It’s a tabloid rag!

    Here’s how reliable her work product is…it would appear Snopes’ new “fact-checker” missed the Congressional Budget Office and General Accounting Office reports on the cost of welfare fraud. In food stamp and EBT card fraud alone, the US government is scammed out of tens of millions of dollars – if not hundreds of millions – annually. That’s a pretty big “fact” to miss for a “fact-checker.”

    Snopes is internationally criticized for it’s gross failure to get its facts right. This is colloquially referred to as “Snopes Being Snoped.” You appear to be the one who unwittingly reads for confirmation bias. You’re also, obviously, a Hillary snowflake. Right?

    JRN

  45. West Sedona Resident says:

    @JRN

    Hey Rick look who’s calling the kettle black

    You do all your research from politically slanted Tea Party propaganda and you know it….. Also I see you are playing a hand with SE in suppressing freedom of opinions here on SE..

    Now that’s not a “freedom loving true patriot kind a thing to do” don’t you agree little Ricky…

    Hey SE editorial board….how about responding to the E mail I sent you…

  46. Code of ethics says:

    Code of ethics

    Those claims may be consistent with the emergence of the council-manager form of government: a system in which political leadership and professional leadership are blended and public policy decisions are made by elected officials on the basis of professional recommendations and advice using the objective standards of cost, efficiency, measurable outcomes and optimum service to the citizens rather than because of political influence, cronyism, nepotism, favoritism, or dishonesty

    http://www.azleague.org/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/199

  47. The Thought Proctologist says:

    @West Sedona Resident, WSR, Wsr, Anonymous andAll Readers at The Eye:

    From The Thought Proctologist;

    Apparently J. Rick won’t repeat his own comments since, I suppose, he feels to do so shouldn’t be necessary. So, I’ll do it for him, as follows, since I do happen to think the following comment needs to be repeated until the subject troll goes away forever:

    Under Eddie Maddock’s column of November 23, 2016 is this comment;

    J. Rick Normand says:
    December 26, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    @All Readers at The Eye:

    Re Hecklers: WSR (the ultimate hater and fraud posting above on Dec 25), Wsr, West sedona Resident and Anonymous

    Here is proof that hecklers like the one(s) below can NEVER be believed or trusted, not to mention that these trolls have no interest whatsoever in the articles which their attack targets have posted and labored to thoroughly research. See below:

    Reply to JRN from>>>
    West sedona Resident says:
    December 4, 2016 at 9:08 am

    J Rick Normand
    Thought Proctologist

    The above are both the same person….J Rick still can’t understand why you use your real name AND then an Alias

    Yes that anonymous post was WSR…forgot to fill it in before I posted

    *****

    J. Rick Normand says:
    December 6, 2016 at 9:21 am

    @West sedona Resident, WSR, Wsr, & Anonymous,

    Do you realize that you’ve just admitted that YOU’RE ALL FOUR OF THESE HANDLES while accusing me of being two handles with no evidence or confirmation of any kind? Can’t you ever do anything right?

    JRN

    *****

    Reply to JRN from>>>
    West sedona resident says:
    December 6, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    JRN

    So what….

    Wsr WSR west sedona resident. Yeah it’s all me …I repeat so what….[sic] there’s all the same…. I’m not pretending to be JRN. And the Thought Proctologist… what’s your point…..Or as in most of your posts….”there is no point”. Just a lot of huffing and hot air

    *****
    From JRN to West sedona Resident, WSR, Wsr, & Anonymous>>>

    Aside from what is revealed through your own words, WSR/Wsr, you’ve proved some other things, namely, that you’re incapable of original research and authoring related articles, incapable of deductive logic, and incapable of achieving enough credibility to persuade anyone to believe in your drivel which you tend to repeat incessantly. You need to find a new game! [and venue (TTP)]

    [End]

  48. @Code of ethics says:

    Oh Donna what’s the point????

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