SedonaEye.com Columnist Eddie S. Maddock opines on the struggle to maintain Sedona Arizona’s red rock splendor and quality of life in the face of commercialism, tourism, favoritism, and the resulting eco-unfriendly biohazards.
Sedona AZ (October 21, 2017) – With a flurry of hard core issues presently on the drawing board such as the Fire District Bond, amendments to the Sedona Community Plan which will increase land development density, and the increase of Sedona City sales tax, maybe it has or has not been an oversight to more prominently address the current “Citizen’s Survey” which was mailed to a select number of Sedona City residents.
Not having personally received the survey, several outside contacts related concerns with some of the questions, which resulted in obtaining a copy of the survey via online research and which, with approval of the Editor of SedonaEye.com, is shown in a text format for informational purposes only so as NOT to be confused as an official document to be completed and mailed back to the source contracted for the research.
The results of this “citizen’s survey” may or may not have a tremendous impact on the direction of Sedona’s future. However, considerable unrest exists relating to ongoing troubling changes in the quality of life for those of us who are permanent residents and who moved here to enjoy life with a small town atmosphere.
Although difficult, this informational offering is submitted without comment or editorializing – which will not prevent me from making future comments if it does, in fact, appear on SedonaEye.
SedonaEye? Who dat?
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The City of Sedona 2017 Citizen Survey
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Please complete this questionnaire if you are the adult (age 18 or older) in the household who most recently had a birthday. The adult’s year of birth does not matter. Please select the response that most closely represents your opinion for each question. Your responses are anonymous and will be reported in group form only.
Please rate each of the following aspects of quality of life in Sedona:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Sedona as a place to live
Your neighborhood as a place to live
Sedona as a place to raise children
Sedona as a place to work
Sedona as a place to visit
Sedona as a place to retire
The overall quality of life in Sedona
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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Overall feeling of safety in Sedona
Overall ease of getting to the places you usually have to visit
Quality of overall natural environment in Sedona
Overall “built environment” of Sedona (including overall design, buildings, parks and transportation systems)
Health and wellness opportunities in Sedona
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Overall opportunities for education and enrichment
Overall economic health of Sedona
Sense of community
Overall image or reputation of Sedona
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Please indicate how likely or unlikely you are to do each of the following:
Very likely Somewhat likely Somewhat unlikely Very unlikely Don’t know
Recommend living in Sedona to someone who asks
Remain in Sedona for the next five years
Please rate how safe or unsafe you feel:
Very safe Somewhat safe Neither safe nor unsafe Somewhat unsafe Very unsafe Don’t know
In your neighborhood during the day
In Sedona’s downtown/commercial area during the day
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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Traffic flow on major streets
Ease of public parking
Ease of travel by car in Sedona
Ease of travel by public transportation in Sedona
Ease of travel by bicycle in Sedona
Ease of walking in Sedona
Availability of paths and walking trails
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Air quality
Cleanliness of Sedona
Overall appearance of Sedona
Public places where people want to spend time
Variety of housing options
Availability of affordable quality housing
Fitness opportunities (including exercise classes and paths or trails, etc.)
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Recreational opportunities
Availability of affordable quality food
Availability of affordable quality health care
Availability of preventive health services
Availability of affordable quality mental health care
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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Availability of affordable quality child care/preschool
K-12 education
Adult educational opportunities
Opportunities to attend cultural/arts/music activities
Opportunities to participate in religious or spiritual events and activities
Employment opportunities
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Shopping opportunities
Cost of living in Sedona
Overall quality of business and service establishments in Sedona
Vibrant downtown/commercial area
Overall quality of new development in Sedona
Opportunities to participate in social events and activities
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Opportunities to volunteer
Opportunities to participate in community matters
Openness and acceptance of the community toward people of diverse backgrounds
Neighborliness of residents in Sedona
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Please indicate whether or not you have done each of the following in the last 12 months.
No Yes
Made efforts to conserve water
Made efforts to make your home more energy efficient
Observed a code violation or other hazard in Sedona (weeds, abandoned buildings, etc.)
Household member was a victim of a crime in Sedona
Reported a crime to the police in Sedona
No Yes
Stocked supplies in preparation for an emergency
Campaigned or advocated for an issue, cause or candidate
Contacted the City of Sedona (in-person, phone, email or web) for help or information
Contacted Sedona elected officials (in-person, phone, email or web) to express your opinion
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In the last 12 months, about how many times, if at all, have you or other household members done each of the following in Sedona?
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Visited a neighborhood park or City park
Used Sedona public libraries or their services
Participated in religious or spiritual activities in Sedona
Attended a City-sponsored event
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Used bus, rail, subway or other public transportation instead of driving
Carpooled with other adults or children instead of driving alone
Walked or biked instead of driving
Volunteered your time to some group/activity in Sedona
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Participated in a club
Talked to or visited with your immediate neighbors
Done a favor for a neighbor
Used the Sedona Hub
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Thinking about local public meetings (of local elected officials like City Council or County Commissioners, advisory boards, town halls, HOA, neighborhood watch, etc.), in the last 12 months, about how many times, if at all, have you or other household members attended or watched a local public meeting?
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Attended a local public meeting
Watched (online or on television) a local public meeting
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Please rate the quality of each of the following services in Sedona:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Police/Sheriff services
Fire services
Ambulance or emergency medical services
Crime prevention
Fire prevention and education
Traffic enforcement
Street repair
Street cleaning
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Street lighting
Snow removal
Sidewalk maintenance
Traffic signal timing
Bus or transit services
Garbage collection
Recycling
Yard waste pick-up
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Storm drainage
Drinking water
Sewer services
Power (electric and/or gas) utility
Utility billing
City parks
Recreation programs or classes
Recreation facilities
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Land use, planning and zoning
Code enforcement (weeds, abandoned buildings, etc.)
Animal control
Economic development
Health services
Public library services
Public information services
Emergency preparedness (services that prepare the community for natural disasters or other emergency situations)
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Preservation of natural areas such as open space, farmlands and greenbelts
Sedona open space
City-sponsored special events
Overall customer service by Sedona employees (police, receptionists, planners, etc.)
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Overall, how would you rate the quality of the services provided by each of the following?
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
The City of Sedona
The Federal Government
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Please rate the following categories of Sedona government performance:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
The value of services for the taxes paid to Sedona
The overall direction that Sedona is taking
The job Sedona government does at welcoming citizen involvement
Overall confidence in Sedona government
Generally acting in the best interest of the community
Being honest
Treating all residents fairly
Please rate how important, if at all, you think it is for the Sedona community to focus on each of the following in the coming two years:
Essential Very important Somewhat important Not at all important
Overall feeling of safety in Sedona
Overall ease of getting to the places you usually have to visit
Quality of overall natural environment in Sedona
Overall “built environment” of Sedona (including overall design, buildings, parks and transportation systems)
Health and wellness opportunities in Sedona
Overall opportunities for education and enrichment
Overall economic health of Sedona
Sense of community
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Cities are faced with difficult choices with limited budgets. While the City is currently working on solutions to reduce traffic, please select up to two (2) additional priorities you would want the City to invest in over the next few years:
Additional cultural facilities (museums, theatres, etc.) Additional parks and facilities (playgrounds, sports facilities, etc.)
An Oak Creek park or walk Other
Increase the walkability and bikeability of Sedona None of these
Ensure housing for those who work in Sedona
Please select up to three (3) service areas for the City to contribute additional funding in order to expand existing services over the next few years:
Recycling services Arts and culture programs
Library services Social services (senior center, food banks, etc.)
Animal services Other (please specify)
Business development services None, I’m pleased with levels of service in listed areas
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Please indicate how likely or unlikely you are to use each of the following sources to learn about City issues, activities, events and services:
Very likely Somewhat likely Somewhat unlikely Very unlikely Don’t know
City website (www.sedonaaz.gov) and eNotify emails
Local newspapers (Red Rock News) and websites (www.Sedona.biz)
Local radio stations (100.1, NPR on 103.3 or 88.7, etc.)
Channel 4, the local government TV channel
City Council meetings and other public meetings
Talking with City officials and staff members
City communications via social media
Word-of-mouth
To what extent do you agree or disagree that each of the following would increase your use of a bicycle or walking as a means of alternative transportation:
I would ride a bicycle or walk more often if…
Strongly agree Somewhat agree Somewhat disagree Strongly disagree Don’t know
There were more off-street bike, sidewalks or multi-use paths/trails
I felt safer from traffic while riding a bicycle/walking
I had better health or physical ability to do so
I do not want to use a bicycle or walk as a means of transportation
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To what extent do you support or oppose the City investing in creating sustainability policies and programs in the following areas:
Strongly support Somewhat support Somewhat oppose Strongly oppose Don’t know
Increasing use of alternative energy sources
Encouraging water conservation
Fostering National Forest stewardship (trails, access, etc.).
Increasing recycling services
Developing plans to meet the goal of zero waste in Sedona
Requiring higher green building and development standards
To what extent would you support or oppose the City of Sedona encouraging growth in the following types of businesses/industries?
Strongly support Somewhat support Somewhat oppose Strongly oppose Don’t know
Technology (i.e., life science, R&D)
Outdoor recreation
Tourism (i.e., hotels, restaurants)
Healthcare (i.e., pharmaceutical, hospital, medical offices)
Arts and Entertainment (i.e., graphic design, interior design)
Light warehousing and distribution (i.e., truck operators, stock clerks)
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Our last questions are about you and your household. Again, all of your responses to this survey are completely anonymous and will be reported in group form only.
How often, if at all, do you do each of the following, considering all of the times you could?
Never Rarely Sometimes Usually Always
Recycle at home
Purchase goods or services from a business located in Sedona
Eat at least 5 portions of fruits and vegetables a day
Participate in moderate or vigorous physical activity
Read or watch local news (via television, paper, computer, etc.)
Vote in local elections
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Would you say that in general your health is:
Excellent
Very good
Good
Fair
Poor
What impact, if any, do you think the economy will have on your family income in the next 6 months? Do you think the impact will be:
Very positive
Somewhat positive
Neutral
Somewhat negative
Very negative
What is your employment status?
Working full time for pay
Working part time for pay
Unemployed, looking for paid work
Unemployed, not looking for paid work
Fully retired
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Do you work inside the boundaries of Sedona?
Yes, outside the home
Yes, from home
No
How many years have you lived in Sedona?
Less than 2 years
2-5 years
6-10 years
11-20 years
More than 20 years
Which best describes the building you live in?
One family house detached from any other houses
Building with two or more homes (duplex, townhome, apartment or condominium)
Mobile home
Other
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Is this house, apartment or mobile home…
Rented
Owned
About how much is your monthly housing cost for the place you live (including rent, mortgage payment, property tax, property insurance and homeowners’ association (HOA) fees)?
Less than $300 per month $1,000 to $1,499 per month
$300 to $599 per month $1,500 to $2,499 per month
$600 to $999 per month $2,500 or more per month
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Do any children 17 or under live in your household?
No
Yes
Are you or any other members of your household aged 65 or older?
No
Yes
How much do you anticipate your household’s total income before taxes will be for the current year? (Please include in your total income money from all sources for all persons living in your household.)
Less than $25,000
$25,000 to $49,999
$50,000 to $99,999
$100,000 to $149,999
$150,000 or more
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Please respond to both questions:
Are you Spanish, Hispanic or Latino?
No, not Spanish, Hispanic or Latino
Yes, I consider myself to be Spanish, Hispanic or Latino
What is your race? (Mark one or more races to indicate what race you consider yourself to be.)
American Indian or Alaskan Native
Asian, Asian Indian or Pacific Islander
Black or African American
White
Other
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In which category is your age?
18-24 years 55-64 years
25-34 years 65-74 years
35-44 years 75 years or older
45-54 years
What is your sex?
Female
Male
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Do you consider a cell phone or land line your primary telephone number?
Cell
Land line
Both
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY8-_ay7YRE
Use the link above to view my interview with Sedona Fire District. My interview starts about 18 minutes in. If you want to get a good idea of what I am about, take a look.
I can’t fix Sedona by myself. I need your help. Please vote No on home rule and no to incumbents.
To the person:
@Steve Seger says:
February 27, 2018 at 1:27 pm
“There is whole lot of other things that Tony has done as well over the years here that are less then “stand up”.
I’d love to share them and have tryed to share these things but SE now covers for the idiot.”
Your similarities to a “Mrs. Richard Thomas” are uncanny. How are things in the City Manager’s office?
Sedona Doesn’t qualify. Wasted money again.
http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/print/volume-148/issue-9/departments/volunteers-corner/when-should-you-purchase-an-aerial-ladder.html
I found the citation under Section 540 of the Insurance Services Office (ISO) Fire Suppression Rating Schedule. It specifically states, “[R]esponse areas with 5 buildings that are 3 stories or 35 feet or more in height, or [have] 5 buildings that have a Needed Fire Flow greater than 3,500 gpm, or any combination of these criteria, should have a ladder company.”
Gee
Thanks for sharing Tony..
As usual… you sound like a complete moron.
Lol
While you all fight for control of City Hall & taxpayers money Sedona is gaining on a place not to go. A place not to live. If you can’t welcome neighbors, treat a visitor with respect and provide a quality stay with quality things to do we will continue down the path of shorter stays and less return visitors.
The businesses like the Chamber should NOT be the brand of the City of Sedona. Cheap goofy and redneck brings you cheap goofy and redneck. You can’t buy class. They can stay outside the city limits save money enjoy a hike and go home.
Stupid people your greed is killing Sedona. So continue down that low life looser road Dumb Dumber
Vote NO on Homerule.
Cancel imo your REd Rock snooze paper.
Vote for NEW people that can make our City residents & businesses proud again.
@Tony Tonsich says:
February 27, 2018 at 9:14 pm
“Perhaps you are right in this one instance that in West Sedona there are no buildings over 2 stories however there have been many homes that were next two houses that were on fire that were saved because the ladder truck was able to spray down protecting those houses keeping them from burning.”
“many homes” on fire saved because of the ladder truck?
C’mon – exaggeration is one thing but you are ridiculous.
Wasn’t, in fact, a reason given for obtaining the ladder truck in case of fire in Oak Creek Canyon? Then only to find out because of the vast size it was unable to turn around on the narrow 89A in the canyon? This becomes more absurd with each and every one of the weak excuses being offered.
Segner will have another go at the seat on the Fire Board since it looks like Tim Ernster will also be stepping down because he’s relocating outside the Fire District.
And don’t think for one moment Segner wouldn’t be going for a seat on the city council. Remember he attempted to fill in a vacant seat not so long ago (by using his in city limits business address) and for a while it looked like the city attorney was going to allow it. But for once the law prevailed on behalf of Sedona City Residents.
See miracles DO happen. Onward and upward Mr T. Down with HOME RULE.
To Joe Lee 2/28
“Your similarities to a “Mrs. Richard Thomas” are uncanny. How are things in the City Manager’s office?”
No Mr Lee, I can assure you that I have no ties to the city managers office, Mr. Segner nor the Chamber or even the forest service. I’m guessing that’s your defense mechanism kicking in or some sort of sarcastic come back when you have no other way of defending the truth.
I don’t know if you are the real Joe Lee in town that most people respect for being a sustainable guru or just stealing his good name regardless, it’s hard to defend Mr. Tonsich when he has proven time and time again that he has no clue about running a fire department. When in doubt, GO TO THE VIDEO TAPE. His own words speak volumes to his agenda and vision for the fire district or even the city.
Of course Mr Tonsich I’m sure that I’ll be receiving a call from your daughter the lawyer, borther in law the lawyer etc who you say like to fight your battles when someone hurts your feelings.
Maybe it would be a good thing for Steve Segner to be on the Fire Board so he could promote another outrageous bond for the voters to turn down.
Too bad we don’t have that option on decisions being made by the City Council which, of course, Segner’s managing to control.
(Deleted by editor) -Half percent sales tax increase. Starts tomorrow. Like it or leave. Don’t come back. That includes you and the tourist.
As you suggested, watched the video Tony! (Deleted by editor) Are you for real?!
Crazy arrogance. After watching that, no to Tony and yes to Home Rule!
Sharing with all my friends. Need responsible and reasonable leadership, not reckless narcissism.
@OMG You must be a government employee who thinks a representative of the people is arrogant it they question your sage recommendations.We need more like Tony who will work for the tax payers not the tax feeders.
I watched the interview, Tony, you have my vote!
@Mike H
Wanting responsible leadership in our city leads you to believe I am a government employee? Interesting. I am a citizen concerned about our leadership starting at the very top. I don’t want to see another recession, the last one hurt not only my family but many many people. I am worried about fires, given our very dry winter and the destruction and loss of life in a California, Utah, Washington, Colorado and Montana. I am concerned about ambulance response time given the current state of traffic. I am worried for my neighbor who can no longer drive, lives alone and is getting up there in age. It bothers me our kids can’t afford to live and raise a family here. I don’t like all the money being thrown at the Chamber or ar Red Earth theater. I hate the city’s new law allowing houses to be used for air bnbs. I can go on, but I think I make my point. I want reasonable and responsible leadership that will address these concerns but not be radical in doing so, like cutting our police force. When I need an officer, I want them to be there. I pay taxes too and as with everyone else deserve to be protected, to feel safe.
@Mrs. Roger Thomas, no, have no idea of any guru with my name so don’t get your knickers in a twist over that. For all we know you might, in actuality, be that person?
I stand by my comments as we are all entitled to opinions. This is still a free country, even in Sedona although people like Steve Segner, City Council and certain Staff members don’t seem to get it since they prefer to kick us to the curb or, preferably, run us out of town.
How many city employees are needed for a town the size of 10,000? occurring to the budget 142. which ends up being 1 per 70 residents.
Over 50 are police officers which make 1 officer per 200 residents. Seriously???? We don’t need one Officer for every 200 mostly retirees. Sounds like a Police City IMO
The City of Sedona indebtedness is $32,645,000 or 3,2645* estimate per person (man, child, total population)
Total Outstanding City Debt as of July 1, 2017 is $32,645,000
Quality of life is being driven down.
@OMG
If you watched the Tony T interview he always stressed safety first. He also mentioned that water drop 747 jets might make Sedona a little safer, but would be a foolish expenditure.
Anyone that is for Home Rule is also for unlimited spending, you said ” yes to Home Rule!”. That says everything about you.
I’m voting for Tony T, a new city council and reasonable spending, not the blank check of home rule and those who give out no bid contracts.
Responding to @OMG says: March 1, 2018 at 4:20 am
I so agree with your itemized list of concerns. However you neglect to emphasize your wants and expectations are soooo NOT being acknowledged by our present representatives on the Sedona City Council with maybe one exception, new kid on the block Currivan who really hasn’t been there long enough to tell. With 6 to 1 the poor guy doesn’t stand a chance any how. How could Tonsich be worse than what we have??
On February 21st I stated
“The police department shares phones, they account for 6. 4 of which are shared. It would appear Chief McGill has a prudent and frugally run department.”
Does that sound like I plan on cutting police? With all the problems with overspending in Sedona, the last thing I will look at will be the police department. The only reason police is mentioned is I am going to look at EVERYTHING, the police might get an increase, as they are some of the lowest paid employees in the city.
You can quote me on THAT.
I moved to the city of Sedona for many reasons, one of which was the excellent law enforcement coverage. ( unlike people who live in the canyon who want Sedona Police coverage but don’t want to pay for it).
I believe in safety first. Not safety at any price, no better weight rooms, no sending out a fire truck and an ambulance when just an ambulance will do. No ladder trucks or water drop 747 jets as stated in my Fire Board interview.
Vote NO on Home Rule, stop the overspending.
I’ve been listening to steve segner rant on here for quite some time.
It makes me wonder, who ties his shoelaces for him?
Right on, Brother! Time for a change since Sedona took the WRONG turn under the leadership of Mayor Rob Adams, etal. Worse Council EVER (imo). What’s done CAN be undone although it will take considerable time.
NO ON HOME RULE.
For the record. There was one council member who did NOT jump on board Rob Adams Rah-Rah Chamber team. Quotes derived from “Curtain Falls on City Council Performances” June 5, 2013: https://sedonaeye.com/curtain-falls-on-may-2013-city-council-performances/
“Mike Ward: Questioned current process for C of C to repeatedly appear before Council asking for more money. Feels a lack of process for tracking return on investment (i.e. would $80,000 require generating $560,000 in sales to be worth while?) Feels need for resolve of C of C and Lodging Council’s request for increased taxes prior to approval for spending more. He supports “request for proposals.” He voted “no” to approve.”
“Rob Adams: He criticized Mike Ward, calling it “disgraceful” for his accusation about C of C’s ongoing appearances asking for city “hand outs.” He lauded the C of C for being responsible for bringing in all of the people who sustain Sedona. He extended C of C his total support although he will also support “request for proposals” next year. He voted “yes” to approve.”
It is now 2018 and to date “Request For Proposals” have NEVER occurred and the return on questionable benefits besides uncontrollable traffic have never been ascertained or justified. Present rebate to the Chamber of Commerce for the questionable contract exceeds $2,000,000 annually. And that isn’t taking into consideration stress on environment, infrastructure, and decline in quality of life for both residents and visitors. Adams’ crediting the C of C for ” for being responsible for bringing in all of the people who sustain Sedona” was completely without justifiable merit.
Sorry, Mike Ward, you weren’t selected to fill the council seat vacated by Angela LeFevre, but your logical and fair minded reasoning wouldn’t have made a dent in the ongoing trend set in motion back in 2013.
I guess people around sedona know Tony pretty well
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The more people who post comments such as @tony T, 3/2 – 3:26 AM and the questionable people using variations of the name “Steve Segner”, the more impressed I am with the responses from Mr. Tonsich. FYI I did take time to review the Fire Board Meeting and was extremely impressed with Tony T’s performance. Keep on attacking him those who obviously have a grudge for whatever reason. The gentleman handles himself splendidly IMO.
Writing a comment on SedonaEye @ 3:26 AM? My – poor tortured soul must have a huge grudge to be so terribly disturbed. Segner? Saunders? Mrs. Roger Thomas?
@ Charles N
Thank you.
WE can change things, not just me, I need everyone who cares about Sedona as their home, I need your help.
@charles(Chas) N
Hey Chas….is that your mindset? (Deleted by editor) . Get a life Chas (Deleted by editor)
@@tony T – “I guess people around sedona know Tony pretty well”
Well guess what? We all know by reputation what S. Segner is all about. (check out his lovely campaigning tactics in an earlier comment). And no doubt how that plays on getting Sandy Moriarty reelected. And any bets as to who will be picked for the vacant council chair left by Joe Vernier? My guess is Jessica Williamson who was defeated in the last election. Interesting if they will pick her after having kicked former councilman Mike Ward to the wall when he applied to fill Angela LeFevre’s council seat! No doubt who’s in control on that council – six men and one strong woman snapping that whip. Yep – guess we all know what the score is in Sedona. More little houses, higher density development, and garbled-up mess that incorporation of Sedona was intended to avoid.
Moral of story: Be careful what you wish for. The exact opposite can happen.
To Charles (Chas)
The one thing that people on this site do that I don’t like is berate those who don’t have the same opinion. You may like Mr. Tonsich attitude and that is fine, I don’t agree, and that’s also fine. What I dislike is when people push their opinions as facts and when I present true facts, I’m accused of being someone in the city managers office, what ever that means. I guess some here say that because they can’t defend my facts.
@ Mrs Roger Thomas
When have you ever stated a fact? Your opinion is not a fact, especially as you never offer any facts to back it up. IMO
I am not Charles.
I disagree with you and your so called facts as they can’t be proven with hard core documents therefore it is your opinion.
To me you sound like (Deleted by editor) that worked for the SFD and had a few (Deleted by editor) that went public with a grudge against (Deleted by editor) employee that happens to know Tony. Since the documents were public documents and were posted that proved behavior not proper during work as a public servant, on taxpayer server costing the Taxpayers Money.
IMO Since your joined the (Deleted by editor) have controlled, manipulated and steered (Deleted by editor) to make some bad decisions that are impacting the quality of life, increasing spending while you are (Deleted by editor). Gifting special interests is all part of (Deleted by editor) system. Give them some money then they stroke you, while there is no checks and balances. The one thing that time tells is transparency. Transparency is truth. Checks and balances is what keeps us balanced IMO.
Under (Deleted by editor) watch IMO have been the mastermind of the degradation enabling (Deleted by editor) to control city hall. God sees all and knows. It is not to late for you to repent. It will be very difficult to reverse the harm you have created. I will vote for Tony and any other person that is NOT associated with the current string of takers.
If it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck, it must be a duck!
Control the out of control Spending and Gifting of City hall.
VOTE NO on HOMERULE!!!!
@Mrs. Roger Thomas: And those who criticize the present council and their biased giveaways to special interests aren’t berated by those who are on the receiving end? Come on! Get real. Some of the very most hateful attacks have been imposed on those who feel the same as Tony T. All we would like is to have a fair shake and just for once be heard.
Many of us did NOT want for the land development code to be changed to increased density. And what good did it do? None! And those making the decisions conveniently used the now watered down version of the Community Plan as feeble justification to take away the small town character that incorporation of Sedona was intended to correct.
As Mr. Tonsich admits, it will take a united effort to make changes and those opposing will most likely stop at nothing to prevent it from happening.
Example? Mr. Segner and his “gorilla” tactics to dig up dirt. BTW should that be “guerrilla?” We will soon see down and dirty berating in action that will make a few of is who disagree with the current system look like pussycats – IN MY OPINION.
While many bloopers created within Sedona City Limits have negative impacts on those of us outside the incorporated area, one good thing (and speaking only for myself) you CANNOT make decisions to ruin our neck-of-the woods.
For example, don’t be too hasty to make a mess out at The Dells. That land, although you may own it, is NOT under YOUR jurisdiction, Mayor & City Council. WE will decide via Yavapai County Legislation what will be developed out there. Get it?
Keep you ruination within your own confines. We neither want nor need you to destroy our quality of life.
Had an excellent time attending some of the films at the film festival this week…
Just awesome so glad I moved here…
Beautiful.
” All we would like is to have a fair shake and just for once be heard.”
An immediate starting point would be a fair selection to replace Joe Vernier on the City Council.
Jessica Williamson failed to be reelected, therefore if she is, in fact, vying for the spot appointing her would clearly go against the will of the people.
Wake up Council members! Do the right thing just once and for a refreshing change.
Should this City of Sedona be fortunate enough to have Mike Ward generously offer his services again, an experienced former Council member who was highly respected by those who elected him, only to be rejected by less than a majority on the city council would certainly NOT show an act of intelligence, logic, and concern about benefiting the will of the people.
Please give us a break and elevate your reputations.
We are delighted to be in Arizona and away from the bitter storms on the east coast. However we made a weekend trip to Sedona and will never return, at least to that over rated rip off tourist trap.
We weren’t aware of two events going on. The Film Festival and some dirt (?) bikers rally too. We intended to hike but it was impossible! Then we ventured into the west area of Sedona and it was MISERABLE! Whether it was worse in the uptown is a toss up.
The hype promoting Sedona is disingenuous. It is far from the most beautiful place on earth. It’s no more than an overblown tourist trap that has obliterated the only thing going for it – your beautiful scenery, red rocks, and vistas which when we visited were off limits because of over use by hundreds of bikers and even noisy invasive ATV’s. Once was enough for us, thank you very much. Cannot imagine living in such a maize of bad energy. Colorado Bryce and Zion have kept what we value and we will winter in Havasu area next year.
Is there any particular reason for Sedona to schedule 2 large events during one weekend? ( Film Fest| Mtn Bike rally). Traffic already unbearable this time of year due to staggered spring breaks. Even today traffic backed up in all directions. What’s wrong with you people?? Anyone else out there agree?
Bye…..
You won’t be missed….see ya!
Plus your not real people.
What’s wrong?
Beginning but not ending with City Council and their beloved Chamber of Commerce and phony baloney local Tourist Bureau that could very well be utilized through the State of Arizona. It’s true. Inmates are definitely controlling the asylum. (my opinion) Anyone else out there agree with THAT?
Scheduling two events during the staggered spring breaks is just plain greed. It shows a lack of concern for residents and TOURISTS. It’s not very bright to advertise and then insure that tourists have a bad experience and never return.
We need to vote in a new city council, vote no on home rule and vote in a new fire board that works for the citizens not the fire department.
The inmates are running the asylum. That’s what’s wrong.
Agree one point only that it’s insane to schedule both events b/c neither complimentary. Ya don’t bring in crowds that don’t have commonality to be in the same place w/o s*** happening. Take Bikeboy in Whole Foods picking up food by hand and then putting it back saying to Bikegirl —- WTF get less wicked clueless dumbass” and 75+ yrs old film goers expecting golf carts to walk 5 ft to entrances —
@Mike H
I disagree Mike….I was able to attend both the Mt bike festival and the film festival..
It was a great week and great weekend…get your head out of your negative ass and look around. Just saying
The recent commenter ‘It was a great week and great weekend” must be one of the four day week, six figure salary Sedona City employees. It must be nice to never have to be in Sedona on a Friday, weekend or holiday Monday.
Sure is one hell of a problem hea?…..So many people flocking to Sedona to spend money and keep my taxes low?….I bet many towns around here wish they had such problems!
I went to Mt. Bike Festival on Friday, what a success!
Now as for timing I think the Mt Bike Fest could have gone off a weekend sooner as the movie festival really didn’t kick of till Sunday…
Yes people when planning event promoters arnt sure how successful they will be, and I will bet it won’t land on the same weekend next year….That’s how you get a greater showing year after year….Had it rained all weekend maybe the outcome would have been different?
But to all the complainers, your hate filled hearts arnt happy unless your glass if half empty!
To the person who so enjoyed both the mountain bike event and film festival, good for you! But mostly be grateful you weren’t trapped at either event by a wildfire as in some areas brush is being cleared in an effort to minimize destruction. It isn’t a matter of “if” but “when” national news will feature this area, same as California. And it won’t be about frivolous escapades. Wake up you fools! Your continued efforts to bring in too many people is a death sentence. Funny? NOT!
Your wrong ….
Not everyone that lives here in Sedona hates the town like you do and wants to turn the clocks back thirty years..
You have hate and envy in your heart…
I repeat it was a great weekend
As for you…..get a life
Just a note for new readers.
Some city employees work 4 -10 hrs days when council is meeting it is more like 12 hrs days.
A reminder that Sedona sits on two state Hwy.. is a tourist town only 100 miles from the Grand Canyon and four state parks, so we will get visitors on most weekends. The city does not put on events the film and bike events are put on by local groups, there is no chamber marketing going on in high season.
As a side note all our customers had a great weekend and most went hiking , not one complaint.
lets all VOTE yes on HOMERULE a no vote just takes $12,000,000 from the city and all paving and road repair will stop so will the new 30,000,000 traffic plan. The number of city employees will not drop.
No on home rule is just for “T” party types and city haters that like to second guess the city manager.
Is that the best that you have to offer for a comment? You don’t agree to the posting so it must be a city employee? You really should get a life and go hiking someplace.
According to someone posting as Segner, if the city manager or chamber of commerce says it, it must be right. What will stop with a No vote on home rule is all the give aways to the chamber of commerce, and Sedona has way more employees than a city our size needs. Right now the city gives $2.3 million plus to the chamber of commerce each year ,and only paves 1-2 miles of road a year. At that rate all the roads in Sedona will be repaved in 50 years, of course, they will turn to gravel except for the two state maintained highways long before that. I would love to turn the clock back 30 years, before there was a “city” of Sedona, what a mistake.
Vote no on home rule. Stop the ripoff of residents by tourist businesses.
So here comes “Steve Segner” or someone since that man pledged over a year ago to refrain from posting here. But, of course, how could the fellow pass up an opportunity to defend his beloved city employees who appear to accommodate his every wish and whim.
And apparently he forgets that over the years and even before Sedona incorporated it was ear-marked for spring break visitors. All without the Chamber of Commerce and their questionable marketing practices.
And just why, Steve Segner, would funding for vital infrastructure be deprived in the event Home Rule was snatched away from the city? Three million of that twelve you mention could readily come from the Chamber contract. Then add up all the giveaways such as Red Earth Theatre and it wouldn’t take long for the budget to be reduced to where it should be and for how it should be spent.
As for West Sedona Dave, he wrote as if he might have had a few too many sips of happy juice (or something). One thing that gent has produced in the past has been a better command of writing skills. Maybe too much allergens in the air?
Don’t like whiners here? Then look at yourselves Stevie, Davy and others who are in command at the moment.
Vote NO, NO, NO on HOME RULE and force prudent spending for essentials first. If that had been the ongoing policy, there wouldn’t be a problem – IMO – which seems to be a qualification missing from some of you. Segner? Davy?
Here are some of the changes I would implement as mayor.
1) Sedona small town focus.
Emphasis on basic services such as police, road repair and lower resident sewer fees (we are 2x Cottonwood as residents paying more for the system than the commercial and/or vacation rental properties). A tiered pricing strategy based on water usage would solve that.
2) End bad business practices such as “no bid” contracts.
Better management of city owned properties and no public money to the Sedona Chamber (which is about $3 million a year and is based on the bed tax collected from hotels within the city limits only. This means hotels that are part of the Chamber but are located in VOC do not pay the tax.Some of the bed tax is required to be spent on tourism. There is no state requirement to give any to the Sedona Chamber of Commerce. Funds from the bed tax could be used elsewhere…maybe the sewer which is our largest capital expenditure).
3) Reign in expenses.
Reduce number of city employees not focused on providing basic services. We have over 140 employees and many have a high salary plus a pension to finance. Our major roads are not the responsibility of the City. We should be running at a surplus but are, in fact, running at a nearly $10,000,000 deficit this year because of overspending. There is so much wasteful spending it will be a full time job for me hunting down fat and waste to cut. See my earlier posts.
Vote NO on Home Rule !! Sedona resident lives matter !!
Da??? what planet are you from??? Mars???
I attended the bike fest and it was free FREE entertainment GOOD music FREE FREE FREE and I can Ride for FREE.
The film Fest brings in NO money Count the FREE rooms given, FREE parties and BTW Flim Fest is a charity pays NO taxes NO contributions to city.
Barf u
So Tony,
you say no on Home rule, that would take $12,000,000 from the city.
And you say you would stop the city spending? How ?You will be one of seven city council members.
Under open meeting laws you can not talk to other members about city issues.
The mayor can not even speak to department heads without the OK of the city manager, the person that actually runs the city.
You know the council will not fire 1/2 the city employees yet you would still cut $12,000,000 from the budget?
The mayor in one of seven and runs the meeting, The mayor does not even set the agenda need approval from council , you will NOT have the power to do anything you say you want to do.
Tony you would cut city income by $12,000,000? What a leader… If you do not believe me then go see the city manager….. Tony you do not understand how the cities works, yet you the make negative comments about city staff and look at the cost of the cell phones.!
Sandy, has done a great job, she goes to every meeting is at every event and knows how government works. And you you what a better cell phone plan….
Tony Home Rule will win by even a bigger margin the last time,