SedonaEye.com Columnist Eddie S. Maddock opines on the struggle to maintain Sedona Arizona’s red rock splendor and quality of life in the face of commercialism, tourism, favoritism, and the resulting eco-unfriendly biohazards.
Sedona AZ (October 21, 2017) – With a flurry of hard core issues presently on the drawing board such as the Fire District Bond, amendments to the Sedona Community Plan which will increase land development density, and the increase of Sedona City sales tax, maybe it has or has not been an oversight to more prominently address the current “Citizen’s Survey” which was mailed to a select number of Sedona City residents.
Not having personally received the survey, several outside contacts related concerns with some of the questions, which resulted in obtaining a copy of the survey via online research and which, with approval of the Editor of SedonaEye.com, is shown in a text format for informational purposes only so as NOT to be confused as an official document to be completed and mailed back to the source contracted for the research.
The results of this “citizen’s survey” may or may not have a tremendous impact on the direction of Sedona’s future. However, considerable unrest exists relating to ongoing troubling changes in the quality of life for those of us who are permanent residents and who moved here to enjoy life with a small town atmosphere.
Although difficult, this informational offering is submitted without comment or editorializing – which will not prevent me from making future comments if it does, in fact, appear on SedonaEye.
SedonaEye? Who dat?
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The City of Sedona 2017 Citizen Survey
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Please complete this questionnaire if you are the adult (age 18 or older) in the household who most recently had a birthday. The adult’s year of birth does not matter. Please select the response that most closely represents your opinion for each question. Your responses are anonymous and will be reported in group form only.
Please rate each of the following aspects of quality of life in Sedona:
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Sedona as a place to live
Your neighborhood as a place to live
Sedona as a place to raise children
Sedona as a place to work
Sedona as a place to visit
Sedona as a place to retire
The overall quality of life in Sedona
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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:
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Overall feeling of safety in Sedona
Overall ease of getting to the places you usually have to visit
Quality of overall natural environment in Sedona
Overall “built environment” of Sedona (including overall design, buildings, parks and transportation systems)
Health and wellness opportunities in Sedona
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Overall opportunities for education and enrichment
Overall economic health of Sedona
Sense of community
Overall image or reputation of Sedona
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Please indicate how likely or unlikely you are to do each of the following:
Very likely Somewhat likely Somewhat unlikely Very unlikely Don’t know
Recommend living in Sedona to someone who asks
Remain in Sedona for the next five years
Please rate how safe or unsafe you feel:
Very safe Somewhat safe Neither safe nor unsafe Somewhat unsafe Very unsafe Don’t know
In your neighborhood during the day
In Sedona’s downtown/commercial area during the day
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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Traffic flow on major streets
Ease of public parking
Ease of travel by car in Sedona
Ease of travel by public transportation in Sedona
Ease of travel by bicycle in Sedona
Ease of walking in Sedona
Availability of paths and walking trails
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Air quality
Cleanliness of Sedona
Overall appearance of Sedona
Public places where people want to spend time
Variety of housing options
Availability of affordable quality housing
Fitness opportunities (including exercise classes and paths or trails, etc.)
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Recreational opportunities
Availability of affordable quality food
Availability of affordable quality health care
Availability of preventive health services
Availability of affordable quality mental health care
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Please rate each of the following characteristics as they relate to Sedona as a whole:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Availability of affordable quality child care/preschool
K-12 education
Adult educational opportunities
Opportunities to attend cultural/arts/music activities
Opportunities to participate in religious or spiritual events and activities
Employment opportunities
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Shopping opportunities
Cost of living in Sedona
Overall quality of business and service establishments in Sedona
Vibrant downtown/commercial area
Overall quality of new development in Sedona
Opportunities to participate in social events and activities
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Opportunities to volunteer
Opportunities to participate in community matters
Openness and acceptance of the community toward people of diverse backgrounds
Neighborliness of residents in Sedona
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Please indicate whether or not you have done each of the following in the last 12 months.
No Yes
Made efforts to conserve water
Made efforts to make your home more energy efficient
Observed a code violation or other hazard in Sedona (weeds, abandoned buildings, etc.)
Household member was a victim of a crime in Sedona
Reported a crime to the police in Sedona
No Yes
Stocked supplies in preparation for an emergency
Campaigned or advocated for an issue, cause or candidate
Contacted the City of Sedona (in-person, phone, email or web) for help or information
Contacted Sedona elected officials (in-person, phone, email or web) to express your opinion
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In the last 12 months, about how many times, if at all, have you or other household members done each of the following in Sedona?
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Visited a neighborhood park or City park
Used Sedona public libraries or their services
Participated in religious or spiritual activities in Sedona
Attended a City-sponsored event
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Used bus, rail, subway or other public transportation instead of driving
Carpooled with other adults or children instead of driving alone
Walked or biked instead of driving
Volunteered your time to some group/activity in Sedona
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Participated in a club
Talked to or visited with your immediate neighbors
Done a favor for a neighbor
Used the Sedona Hub
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Thinking about local public meetings (of local elected officials like City Council or County Commissioners, advisory boards, town halls, HOA, neighborhood watch, etc.), in the last 12 months, about how many times, if at all, have you or other household members attended or watched a local public meeting?
2 times a week or more 2-4 times a month Once a month or less Not at all
Attended a local public meeting
Watched (online or on television) a local public meeting
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Please rate the quality of each of the following services in Sedona:
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Police/Sheriff services
Fire services
Ambulance or emergency medical services
Crime prevention
Fire prevention and education
Traffic enforcement
Street repair
Street cleaning
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Street lighting
Snow removal
Sidewalk maintenance
Traffic signal timing
Bus or transit services
Garbage collection
Recycling
Yard waste pick-up
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Storm drainage
Drinking water
Sewer services
Power (electric and/or gas) utility
Utility billing
City parks
Recreation programs or classes
Recreation facilities
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Land use, planning and zoning
Code enforcement (weeds, abandoned buildings, etc.)
Animal control
Economic development
Health services
Public library services
Public information services
Emergency preparedness (services that prepare the community for natural disasters or other emergency situations)
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
Preservation of natural areas such as open space, farmlands and greenbelts
Sedona open space
City-sponsored special events
Overall customer service by Sedona employees (police, receptionists, planners, etc.)
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Overall, how would you rate the quality of the services provided by each of the following?
Excellent Good Fair Poor Don’t know
The City of Sedona
The Federal Government
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Please rate the following categories of Sedona government performance:
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The value of services for the taxes paid to Sedona
The overall direction that Sedona is taking
The job Sedona government does at welcoming citizen involvement
Overall confidence in Sedona government
Generally acting in the best interest of the community
Being honest
Treating all residents fairly
Please rate how important, if at all, you think it is for the Sedona community to focus on each of the following in the coming two years:
Essential Very important Somewhat important Not at all important
Overall feeling of safety in Sedona
Overall ease of getting to the places you usually have to visit
Quality of overall natural environment in Sedona
Overall “built environment” of Sedona (including overall design, buildings, parks and transportation systems)
Health and wellness opportunities in Sedona
Overall opportunities for education and enrichment
Overall economic health of Sedona
Sense of community
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Cities are faced with difficult choices with limited budgets. While the City is currently working on solutions to reduce traffic, please select up to two (2) additional priorities you would want the City to invest in over the next few years:
Additional cultural facilities (museums, theatres, etc.) Additional parks and facilities (playgrounds, sports facilities, etc.)
An Oak Creek park or walk Other
Increase the walkability and bikeability of Sedona None of these
Ensure housing for those who work in Sedona
Please select up to three (3) service areas for the City to contribute additional funding in order to expand existing services over the next few years:
Recycling services Arts and culture programs
Library services Social services (senior center, food banks, etc.)
Animal services Other (please specify)
Business development services None, I’m pleased with levels of service in listed areas
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Please indicate how likely or unlikely you are to use each of the following sources to learn about City issues, activities, events and services:
Very likely Somewhat likely Somewhat unlikely Very unlikely Don’t know
City website (www.sedonaaz.gov) and eNotify emails
Local newspapers (Red Rock News) and websites (www.Sedona.biz)
Local radio stations (100.1, NPR on 103.3 or 88.7, etc.)
Channel 4, the local government TV channel
City Council meetings and other public meetings
Talking with City officials and staff members
City communications via social media
Word-of-mouth
To what extent do you agree or disagree that each of the following would increase your use of a bicycle or walking as a means of alternative transportation:
I would ride a bicycle or walk more often if…
Strongly agree Somewhat agree Somewhat disagree Strongly disagree Don’t know
There were more off-street bike, sidewalks or multi-use paths/trails
I felt safer from traffic while riding a bicycle/walking
I had better health or physical ability to do so
I do not want to use a bicycle or walk as a means of transportation
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To what extent do you support or oppose the City investing in creating sustainability policies and programs in the following areas:
Strongly support Somewhat support Somewhat oppose Strongly oppose Don’t know
Increasing use of alternative energy sources
Encouraging water conservation
Fostering National Forest stewardship (trails, access, etc.).
Increasing recycling services
Developing plans to meet the goal of zero waste in Sedona
Requiring higher green building and development standards
To what extent would you support or oppose the City of Sedona encouraging growth in the following types of businesses/industries?
Strongly support Somewhat support Somewhat oppose Strongly oppose Don’t know
Technology (i.e., life science, R&D)
Outdoor recreation
Tourism (i.e., hotels, restaurants)
Healthcare (i.e., pharmaceutical, hospital, medical offices)
Arts and Entertainment (i.e., graphic design, interior design)
Light warehousing and distribution (i.e., truck operators, stock clerks)
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Our last questions are about you and your household. Again, all of your responses to this survey are completely anonymous and will be reported in group form only.
How often, if at all, do you do each of the following, considering all of the times you could?
Never Rarely Sometimes Usually Always
Recycle at home
Purchase goods or services from a business located in Sedona
Eat at least 5 portions of fruits and vegetables a day
Participate in moderate or vigorous physical activity
Read or watch local news (via television, paper, computer, etc.)
Vote in local elections
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Would you say that in general your health is:
Excellent
Very good
Good
Fair
Poor
What impact, if any, do you think the economy will have on your family income in the next 6 months? Do you think the impact will be:
Very positive
Somewhat positive
Neutral
Somewhat negative
Very negative
What is your employment status?
Working full time for pay
Working part time for pay
Unemployed, looking for paid work
Unemployed, not looking for paid work
Fully retired
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Do you work inside the boundaries of Sedona?
Yes, outside the home
Yes, from home
No
How many years have you lived in Sedona?
Less than 2 years
2-5 years
6-10 years
11-20 years
More than 20 years
Which best describes the building you live in?
One family house detached from any other houses
Building with two or more homes (duplex, townhome, apartment or condominium)
Mobile home
Other
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Is this house, apartment or mobile home…
Rented
Owned
About how much is your monthly housing cost for the place you live (including rent, mortgage payment, property tax, property insurance and homeowners’ association (HOA) fees)?
Less than $300 per month $1,000 to $1,499 per month
$300 to $599 per month $1,500 to $2,499 per month
$600 to $999 per month $2,500 or more per month
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Do any children 17 or under live in your household?
No
Yes
Are you or any other members of your household aged 65 or older?
No
Yes
How much do you anticipate your household’s total income before taxes will be for the current year? (Please include in your total income money from all sources for all persons living in your household.)
Less than $25,000
$25,000 to $49,999
$50,000 to $99,999
$100,000 to $149,999
$150,000 or more
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Please respond to both questions:
Are you Spanish, Hispanic or Latino?
No, not Spanish, Hispanic or Latino
Yes, I consider myself to be Spanish, Hispanic or Latino
What is your race? (Mark one or more races to indicate what race you consider yourself to be.)
American Indian or Alaskan Native
Asian, Asian Indian or Pacific Islander
Black or African American
White
Other
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In which category is your age?
18-24 years 55-64 years
25-34 years 65-74 years
35-44 years 75 years or older
45-54 years
What is your sex?
Female
Male
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Do you consider a cell phone or land line your primary telephone number?
Cell
Land line
Both
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Just skimmed site & saw this. Eddie Maddock ought to be given awards for her Sedona coverage. Here’s a question that supports your graphics, Eddie Maddock. Keep up your effort to uphold the voters right to know.
1) whose that survey company, can’t find any evidence of its existence???? want to know all about it like how much they got paid, who signed off on the questions, who developed the questions, who has requested all internal city emails about this survey that are available FOIA?
We KNOW who SedonaEye.com is Eddie Maddock. Sedona citizens know it. It’s the site that is about transparency and honesty and accountability. It the site that believes in Sedona citizens and their right to know everything.
Thank you Eddie Maddock.
A total of 231 completed surveys were. obtained, providing an overall response rate of 20%. Typically, response rates obtained on citizen. surveys range from 20% to 40%. The National Citizen Survey™ customized for the City of Pasco was developed in close cooperation. with local jurisdiction staff.
Reference: http://www.pasco-wa.gov//Home/View/3733DocumentCenter
National Citizen Survey out of Boulder Colorado. Most cities don’t bother unless they want to have tool to use for agendas?
City of Sedona could have conducted same survey online but didn’t. The reasons are on this page.
http://www.n-r-c.com/survey-products/the-national-citizen-survey/conduct-survey-online/
http://www.n-r-c.com/who-we-are/
YOU MUST BE KIDDING. 14 girls, one older man & a blurb that says nothing but doublespeak & gobblygook put together by a Phd woman and a management guy to promote their own ideas? Four letter words for four finger IQs.
great articLE
stupid survey
city agenda sick
To All Readers at The Eye:
More than anyone who has ever served on a Sedona City Council, or been involved with The Chamber or Lodging Council, or served with the City Staff or any private promotional entity, Eddie Maddock has demonstrated a love and caring for our City of Sedona. It is to her that we all owe the most!
JRN
With many thanks to those who take time to read this survey – whether or not you officially received it in the mail. However, the credit for its appearance here must go to the two or three people who notified me about the mailing. And in particular the one who took time to actually show me not one, but in addition a second survey on yellow paper received one week later, after the first in white. And so, indeed, I did see it first hand.
Then, of course, the much more computer savvy individual who was able to actually extract the survey itself from the system and forward it to me.
However, the final act to make it public here was the effort extended by the Editor/Publisher of SedonaEye who had the difficult task of converting the five-page mailed document format to be compatible on the SE website.
Definitely a group effort and it MUST remain so if we are to have any control over our destiny. Now what we need is a unification to let people know and read SedonaEye since apparently those in charge of compiling the survey aren’t aware we exist. Prepare for action or accept the determination of future Sedona as it unfolds before you.
Thank you all, so very very much for your assistance.
Eddie Maddock
Agreed J. Rick Thank you so much Mrs. Maddock. We can’t thank you enough. You are pure greatness. Thank you
It’s early here. Have time to kill before day starts & looking at site. Thanks (deleted by editor) for sending & here’s 2 cents. Hope this helps.
I work with a group that organizes customer surveys for insurance company’s advertising support company & in theory surveys are neutral while in real world it’s a skew, people get duped, easily led. The above {survey text boxes} read like official survey formats. Could’ve been produced on its own by checking online opinion surveys. Why pay? Answers meaningless & usually domain of advertising budgets. What’re Sedona’s advertising goals?
Visiting Sedona in early May (?) friends used to come a lot to Sedona. Californians ought to go support fire areas this year. We’ll see. Don’t do traffic on vacays.
Addressing some questions from Mark:
In an e-mail to Asst. City Mgr. Karen Osburn, I asked: “Will you please let me know how much it cost the city for the latest mailed survey? Also, who was responsible for the choice of questions for the National Citizen Survey furnished to the National Research Center?”
Mrs. Osburn’s response: “The survey was $14,265. The vast majority of the NCS questions are standardized so that as cities and towns across the country administer the same survey, that they can gather the results and develop national benchmarks against which cities and towns can compare their performance to others. They do allow for a handful of customized questions to be added at the end of the survey and I believe the last 6 questions on our survey were those customized questions. They were developed mostly by the City Manager and Citizen Engagement Coordinator based on Council priority areas, and current and emerging issue areas for the community. Hope this helps.”
Maddock: “As always, Karen, I appreciate your diligence in responding. The question about citizen/staff/council participation in the questions quite honestly arose from the direct reference to the Red Rock News and online Sedona.Biz. Need I say more? (no need to respond unless you are so inclined to disclose the major players in the current citizens engagement committees)”
Osburn: “Hi Eddie, I think I understand now. We did ask a question about how our residents want to get their information from the City (I don’t have it in front of me so I’m paraphrasing). We identified some of the more traditional ways, such as the online sites, local newspaper, I think we asked about Channel 4, direct mail, etc. The reason we asked is so we know, or at least have a better sense of, how to target our communication to reach the most people. At least I think this is what you’re asking about!! For example, we have access to use the local cable channel but don’t use it particularly well, so we want to know if anyone watches it or would watch it. If so, then we would invest some more resources in improving how we use it. If not, we wouldn’t bother and invest the resources in other tools. Thanks for following up, Karen”
Mrs. Osburn referenced “online sites” (plural) but neglected to directly address my question referencing specifically the “Red Rock News and online Sedona.Biz” and offered no names of those participating on the Citizens Engagement Committee.
Eddie Maddock
That’s incorrect that the last six questions are Sedona generated.
Eddie Maddock says:
October 27, 2017 at 11:07 am
Mrs.. Osborn referenced online sites (plural) but neglected to directly address my question referencing specifically the Red Rock News and online Sedona.Biz and offered no names of those participating on the Citizens Engagement Committee.
Eddie would have us believe that Mrs., Osborn over looked the Sedona Eye.
Look at the list of people that posted on the EYE the last week.
Real publications make people use real names.
You will see the Sedona Eye is just a hate group of 15 to 20
Survey Says What Cities Want to Hear says:
Tom – Sedona Refused Online Survey? says:
Picture worth a thousand words says:
are u kidding? says:
J. Rick Normand says:
Eddie Maddock says:
Norma says:
Cotter says:
West Sedona Dave says:
Wendy Tanzer says:
Joan, VOC says:
Jim says:
The Thought Proctologist say
Tony T says:
David Schwartz says:
No Surprise Here says:
Ted says:
Rich collister says:
Online survey:
https://nrc.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_24fpAEMuctlwZox
segner when you get a point, post it
city council listened to less people and made policy
when you get called a moron, I’m considering it has meaning now
west Sedona dave, point is what because city didn’t provide that link, you did? why not shared before this?
and segner, clean up the yard.
You have clearly made your personal agenda clear @ Steve Senger (deleted by editor). You speak on behalf on city employees???? City Council???? Really show your colors, (deleted by editor)……..
the fake city with a fake community plan with non transparent citizen engagement club of NON RESIDENTS<<<<<<<< ARIZONA LIBERTY WHERE ARE YOU??????? dissolve this ffffn city please!
Thank you still laughing I hope I have made it clear I am a supporter of city government, city employees, the fire department. I find them to be extremely capable people and easy to work with. Hope we’re clear on that.
For the record, the City Survey presented here is a duplicate of the one mailed to selected residents and submitted to SedonaEye for considered publication on the date shown: October 21, 2017. To my knowledge it is unrelated to any other surveys presently being solicited online or elsewhere. (@West Sedona Dave)
@Steve Segner. Thank you for letting the public know you now speak on behalf of Sedona City Assistant Manager Karen Osburn. – Reference your comment:
“Eddie would have us believe that Mrs., Osborn over looked the Sedona Eye.”
That live link I gave is right off the City of Sedonas main web page!
If you people don’t even go to the cities web page to see what is going on with OUR government is not my problem, but is a direct refection on your ignorance…
The more things change, the more they stay the same…..
Humm smells like a rat, segnner. We all know you are a “lobbyist – opportunist” getting taxpayers money to pay for your business’s expenses. But now you are on the payroll to speak on behalf of Osborn and Martinez. Staff and council. Oh mein Gott!!!!!
debes obedecer
du musst gehorchen
אתה חייב לציית
איר מוזן פאָלגן
musisz przestrzegać
devi obbedire
Je pense que nous avons besoin d’une révolution.
@West Sedona Dave – so the city spends over $14,000 for a mailed survey to a select number and then ends up making it available on line? And what does that tell you? That maybe people were so disgusted they didn’t bother to return the mailed offering? BRILLIANT? Nope just another hair brained idea that went sour. Must agree w/you big Dave – “the more things change, the more they stay the same…”
Backstories like what’s the personal and professional association this survey group and its two principals have with staff like family and friendships? Did the city PAY for someone to come from Colorado or go to Colorado on this budget item or expensed somewhere else like a general fund? Good reminder for municipalities and other organizations that Skype and Facetime and a zillion other FREE conference calling apps do the same job and cost nothing…no gas, no hotel, no food, no entertainment or lost hours of productive office time including comp time. There is no reason for any person in this day and age to travel for business or entertainment on a taxpayers penny. Thanks to the internet life has become simplified, work even more so. No budget expense exists that doesn’t have a signature whether by hand or ISP. ADM, Ft. Collins area
good morning Sedona
bogus bull dave, you made my point, city didn’t post, YOU did
why not dave? why pay $15K +- when could have had every citizen directed to website on the cheap?
read a comment by Colorado, maybe it didn’t pay?
city site serves no public purpose, its for you to meet requirements of public notice (your comment would support argument that RRN paid ads are unnecessary, beware walking/talking on this path because public might rise up and demand payments cease)
have a good day Sedona, I’m headed to Flag for good pizza
The following exchange with Assistant City Manager Karen Osburn will serve to terminate any further discussion between us on the matter of the City Citizens Survey. And in the future, may I suggest that anyone seeking detailed information from City Staff go directly to them or one of the very vocal citizen advocates who, because of their frequent comments on this site, have become high profile. It’s been my past intention to provide selective details to share with all concerned which, in turn, might serve to cut down on excessive contacts with City Staff. However, due to this inadvertent misunderstanding, that policy appears to not be a positive service and for that I apologize. -Eddie Maddock
E-mail message from Mrs. Osburn 10/27/2017 3:26:44 PM:
“Eddie, I did not address your question about the makeup of “the citizen engagement committee,” because I told you there was NO citizen engagement committee for the citizen survey. I can’t give you names for a committee that never existed.
Is your point in the rather cryptic questions that the Sedona Eye wasn’t called out by name in the survey instrument? If so, next time can you just ask me that so I’m not trying to figure out what you’re asking and risk not giving you a direct answer to a direct question?
Thanks, Karen”
Responding e-mail from Eddie Maddock 10/27/2017 4:38:00 PM
“Hi Karen:
Because you stated the questions were developed mostly by the City Manager and Citizen Engagement Coordinator based on Council priorities, why was it unreasonable for me to make a connection with input from an actual citizen engagement committee? Otherwise what would the Citizen Engagement Coordinator have to offer unless it resulted from citizen input from such a committee?
Surely someone was responsible for making the decision to use brand names in that survey, in only two incidents as I recall, and it would be helpful to know who it was and why it was important to be so explicit in only that specific situation? If the survey had appeared as you suggested, with the usage of local newspapers and online sites, instead of by selectively using names, we wouldn’t be having this exchange. And to fulfill your request, why wasn’t SedonaEye called out by name in the survey instrument?
Be assured, there was no hidden agenda on my part by attempting to be cryptic. In fact, in fairness why couldn’t the question itself be considered cryptic?
Sorry for the confusion. As I’ve attempted to do on many occasions, my efforts were to obtain answers to a reader’s comments on SedonaEye – nothing else.
Sincerely,
Eddie “
ESM
Thanks once again for acting again to bother city workers over your nonsense and causing confusion over nothing.
Your a gem
Question for you….. I see that you have no negative comment on the money spent on the dog park renovation…. why is that? Is it because you own a dog?
You sure complained on and on about the water park for kids however; hmmmmmm
Hats off to Eddie Maddock, who good heavens, actually tries to encourage constructive discourse about all the zingers Sedona City Staff and alleged publicly elected officials are so happy to throw at us while disregarding what residents who have made a financial commitment to this City want and expect (e.g., as in safety!!!!), As I’ve said before and looks like I will need to reiterate, it is time for Sedona to live up to its reputation, or else go the way of all the places I’ve seen deteriorate as people seek to feed their senseless egos. Notably, I did not see nor receive a survey as my feedback would have to honest, now that I’ve been here over 20 years.
Good work Sedona Times writers and voices for standing up and being counted. Many in that town are like N.Baer and E.Maddock say about them.
I’m in favor of the fire bond but I’m in favor of hearing from others that aren’t and where else can you hear it in town but here?
I never hear official statements by its owners to sway me. I quit reading RRN and biz decade ago because they catered to small handful of locals while the Times walked and talked a Sedona life. Thank you!
Owners I forget to call you a Sedona Eye. Call me getting older.
Missing Sedona friends (deleted by editor) but not the changes. I have plenty of all that back here in the east. Our leaves are beautiful though and air crisp this fall. I’m sending you pictures to enjoy (deleted by editor) tomorrow (deleted by editor) November 3.
@West sedona resident
For your information, I have NEVER visited or taken either of my dogs to the dog-park to which you refer. In fact, I avoid travelling into West Sedona unless it’s absolutely necessary. My choice was to visit the Kiwanis park in VOC with my previous dog, but NEVER have I even taken my present dog out there. Any more questions?
To West Sedona Resident / since you think you’re so very, very smart then why isn’t it you remember Ms Maddock’s complaint about the water park facility had more to do with removing (chopping down) the grandest and oldest tree in the facility?
Really STOOPID! especially since with a little care and planning it could have been avoided. Then they had to replace the shade provided from the tree with canopies. More STOOPID! Hope you are eating your daily share of fruits & veggies, as one of the questions in the survey thinks it important for them to know. Yep you got it S-T-O-O-P-I-D!!!!!
wordsmiths
@marv
Sorry Marv
Yes the tree was mentioned for sure…
Too bad for the tree…..I’m sure they had to cut down some trees for your house as well …or any other construction that goes on around here.
I remember most of the complaints going something like this…
“Oh how can the city spend that much money on a water park for kids to enjoy”
But the dog park is ok…hmmmmm
These PRETEND environmentalists will chop down ancient trees and yet destroy open space, nature, and displace wild life for high rise affordable housing so developers can make $$$$$ and THEN turn them into timeshares and, presently the rage, vacation rentals.
If not so pathetic it would be laughable. It appears ALL of them are in it for the buck $$$$$ (includes council & staff)….. City residents sold out to the highest bidder for high density in our residential subdivisions.
Not only STOOPID (luv it) but more significantly ……. it’s BRAZENLY UNETHICAL …… but unfortunately and apparently ….. LEGAL.
Eat your veggies & fruit -RIGHT!
Are you a city employee? Or ex city council?
I am a vegan worker. The city of sedona owes me. They need to provide a great place for me to live and also provide organic free vegan food for me to eat. I deserve it. Sedona wouldn’t be here without me, the visitors need me to massage their feet and other body parts. The residents neeeed to pay more so I can massage the tourists things. This is the way we do it. I work less YOU pay more. Oh I forgot to mention that I really work outside the city limits but the city council still LOVES me as I go and speak when they ask me to.
My girls go to your water park four or five times a month when we’re visiting relatives. We’ve been maybe ten times total in last couple months. We never see other kids. If the city promoted it more maybe other kids would come on over. My relatives don’t have kids in their neighborhood to play with.
wsr go find a dog park & talk to a tree like you always do
people stop talking to this putz & responding to his dog(deleted by editor)
ignore this a**
I don’t want you all to miss that the liberty groups revealed that the Wendy tanzer / collier group is nothing more than the construction companies that WILL MAKE MILLIONS if you vote yes on the bond VOTE NO ! Stop sedona corruption
No different than the plan for increased density and the multitude of leading questions in the survey. All for the developers and Steve Segner’s promotion of his agenda:
(Appears under Sedona Fire District Bond Issue Vote Should Be No)
” steve Segner says: October 20, 2017 at 10:03 am, socialism is just around the corner we can only hope”
From In Business Uptown says:
In business but for how long? Didn’t really know where to post this comment – any of several articles would work because they all lead to the same direction: Socialism.
ID-ing myself obviously would be suicide, and demise of my career in Sedona is already on the horizon what with the .5% increase in sales tax. What people don’t realize is we pay that tax on our rental leases. With low end business leases at 4-5,000 monthly and people complain about “affordable” workforce housing? Tax another half percent onto $4,000/$5,000 for a business location? R U nuts? Others have sent editorials which have appeared elsewhere. We are on the road to ruin. Seriously.
The one comment here that caught my eye is the one about Coconino County withdrawing from city of Sedona jurisdiction. Oh how they would hate to lose all that commercial tax (hotels – Poco, LaBerge, Amara, Los Abrigados – to mention a few – bed & sales tax say bye bye to Sedona as Coco County says “welcome and bless you.”) Plus, maybe we could have the County Sheriff re-established as a substation at the uptown fire station? Better yet – it would put the unofficial City Visitors Center manned, promoted, and profits reaped by the chamber of commerce out of business – at least in that location. Ha – move the boundary and the city would have to go elsewhere.
Question: how do we make it happen?
Special Interests says: says:
I dont want you all to miss that the liberty groups revealed that the Wendy tanzer / collier group is nothing more than the construction companies that WILL MAKE MILLIONS if you vote yes on the bond VOTE NO ! Stop sedona corruption
Please show us how that will happen the state of Arizona laws govern all contracts and bidding….. You just make stuff up and don’t use a real name. You slander good people you are no better the our President.
“Please show us how that will happen the state of Arizona laws govern all contracts and bidding” so you state.
And what about the contract the city has with the Chamber of Commerce? Where were the bids then? So who is making up stuff now, Stevie?
There Steve goes again speaking untruths. He posted here earlier that Sedona eye was alone and not credible in letting people make statements as anonymous. Well that is NOT true. In Fact the other website that was listed in the survey does also, they even HAD an article series as the anonymous By [Concerned Sedona Resident] series Selling Sedona.
There are also MANY contracts that DID NOT get RFP so the cronies, buddies, snakes and greedy businesses could get paid by city from taxpayers. The list is to long.
Look at people that speak from greed and speak untruths as they are stealing your FREEDOM and rights. They are being enriched by TAXPAYERS $edona dollars.
Time to take your city back.
@steve Segner says:
October 29, 2017 at 3:13 pm
“Please show us how that will happen the state of Arizona laws govern all contracts and bidding” so you state.
And what about the contract the city has with the Chamber of Commerce? Where were the bids then? So who is making up stuff now, Stevie?
If you think that law is being broken go to the state and let them know.
If not shut up…. you are just slandering good people , please go to the stateNOW
You shutup (deleted by editor). See if you can buy a brain with your ill gotten gains. Sub human!
You seem to have a lot of gall (Steve Segner) to insinuate others of slandering good people. Those are serious charges and the fact you avoided using specific names indicates you’re at least smart enough to realize it. As for the state approval of the city/chamber contract, there still may be a good deal of speculation about that one. Time will tell.
“You will see the Sedona Eye is just a hate group of 15 to 20” was posted on the Sedona.Biz by Steve Segner, October 28, 2017 at 10:15 a.m.
Those pointing the finger are generally the biggest abusers of what they complain about. In Sedona and on this web site the really hateful appear to be those that continue to pull all the strings and drum up schemes like the contrived survey that read like a church choir roll call. Cannot believe anyone except those on the take and already aware of the outcome would even bother to return it. After the failed garbage collection survey they most likely have failsafe assurances in place so the outcome will be to their liking. Why the takers continue to whine is a mystery. Seems like they should be too busy counting their do-re-mi$$$$. But enough is NEVER enough for the likes of those opportunists. BTW my neighbor gave his to a golf buddy to fill out. Just pointing out why you jackasses keep crowding the same corral.
I’m sorry I was wrong it’s actually 5 to 10 stupid heaters Who are afraid to stand behind their remarks are using phoney names, and accusing everybody any kind of government entity at feeding them and treating them shabbily
I’m sorry, what was the subject?
5 to 10 stupid heaters???? OOPSS Stevie Too much wine for din-din w/your Progresso Soup??? and for the record “Fight amongst yourselves some where else” the subject is the absurd survey the city mailed out. . only to find the need to follow it up with an online version. . Ask the man who knows everything why that happened. . 5 to 10 stupid heaters – OMG and he rules city hall?!!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I5_eKM_muI&feature=youtu.be
CHANGED MY MIND. Voting NO.